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Title: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 03:00:58 AM
get enough protein to support all their muscle mass? ???
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Magnus on April 01, 2009, 03:01:49 AM
all drugs
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Meso_z on April 01, 2009, 03:01:54 AM
plazmosis.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Wiggs on April 01, 2009, 03:02:35 AM
get enough protein to support all their muscle mass? ???

The same way Michael Lockett gets his from da "licorice"  ;D
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Rami on April 01, 2009, 03:04:56 AM
40lbs of vegetation / day
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Tyr on April 01, 2009, 03:06:13 AM
All natural genetics
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 01, 2009, 03:08:47 AM
there are ton's of high protein insects on the leafs they chew daily

Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 03:10:36 AM
The same way Michael Lockett gets his from da "licorice"  ;D

Was ist das?
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Tapeworm on April 01, 2009, 03:11:35 AM
Exactly what Diane Fossey wondered about.  That and if she could get one to shag her.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Rami on April 01, 2009, 03:12:23 AM
there are ton's of high protein insects on the leafs they chew daily



high quality

Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 01, 2009, 03:15:56 AM
(http://thiswayplease.com/extra-extra/wp-content/photos/munch480.jpg)
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Wiggs on April 01, 2009, 03:18:00 AM
Was ist das?

die Lakritze
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: WillGrant on April 01, 2009, 03:19:24 AM
Imagine these fukers on tren  ;D
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Pecs on April 01, 2009, 03:19:50 AM
(http://thiswayplease.com/extra-extra/wp-content/photos/munch480.jpg)

delts overpowering his traps..
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Meso_z on April 01, 2009, 03:21:20 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=272957.0;attach=312164;image)
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Immortal_Technique on April 01, 2009, 03:22:39 AM
get enough protein to support all their muscle mass? ???

This is a damn good question, I saw one at the zoo the other day and it was 400lb with a bad ass set of lats, and damn powerful!
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 01, 2009, 03:23:38 AM
thik about this .... some male chimps are 4 times stronger than a regular human male adult

a silverback .... welll ..you do the math  :-\
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Saxon on April 01, 2009, 03:37:37 AM
Gorillas have amazingly small dicks...
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 03:39:09 AM
die Lakritze

Yeah, I know what it is, I didn't get what you meant by it.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Wiggs on April 01, 2009, 03:40:20 AM
Yeah, I know what it is, I didn't get what you meant by it.

Oh, Michael Lockett said his diet was licorice and something else ridiculous.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: RZA on April 01, 2009, 03:41:35 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=272957.0;attach=312164;image)

Are you implying that Ronnie is a vegetarian?
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 03:51:35 AM
That ape is pretty big... ;)

A gorilla would kick Ronnie's arse...
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 01, 2009, 04:04:10 AM
how did this thread turn into a racist ronnie joke ?

geez ...I wonder how many aryans are posting

I'm not naming handles but ( deicide, dunkey ) you know who yu are
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: DK II on April 01, 2009, 04:08:28 AM
how did this thread turn into a racist ronnie joke ?

geez ...I wonder how many aryans are posting

I'm not naming handles but ( deicide, dunkey ) you know who yu are

STFU.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 01, 2009, 04:11:45 AM
STFU.
a litle angry my nazi buddy ?
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: the anabolic mon on April 01, 2009, 04:29:55 AM
Exactly what Diane Fossey wondered about.  That and if she could get one to shag her.
Would that make her a mudshark?  ;D
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: RZA on April 01, 2009, 04:35:56 AM
Wow, this thread didn't get highjacked by BigBobs and Sharma posting nasser's pics once again. Nor by Hulkster's jizz-stained Ronnie pics. Instead of this, we have Sevastase stalking DK like his life depends on it. That's a novelty.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: RZA on April 01, 2009, 04:45:06 AM
I was being ironic in fact. He's been following you around for ages now like a angered puppy chewing your pants and who won't let go. The only relief we get from that shit is him posting pictures of his "private" life. Which is pretty depressing BTW.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Magnus on April 01, 2009, 04:47:59 AM
(http://thiswayplease.com/extra-extra/wp-content/photos/munch480.jpg)

nice haircut on the guy
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: DK II on April 01, 2009, 04:48:42 AM
I was being ironic in fact. He's been following you around for ages now like a angered puppy chewing your pants and who won't let go. The only relief we get from that shit is him posting pictures of his "private" life. Which is pretty depressing BTW.

true, i think i can see it as a good side and victimize myself for the sake of getbig.

It's just fucking annoying at times, if at least he had humor or a sense of reality....  :-\
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: DK II on April 01, 2009, 04:49:37 AM
starting to creeo me out

 :D


Oh my god!

I made a type-o!

 ::) ::) ::)


idiot.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: Tapeworm on April 01, 2009, 04:53:10 AM
Would that make her a mudshark?  ;D

Hmmm.  It definitely made her bruised.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 01, 2009, 04:53:51 AM
Oh my god!

I made a type-o!

 ::) ::) ::)


idiot.
lol

you are clearly the idiot here  :D
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Swedish Viking on April 01, 2009, 05:02:25 AM
I've wondered the same thing, I read a paper about it not too long ago, more related to chimps though-that being that they are more omnivorous than most people think-eating rodents, insects...etc.  But gorillas, I read, are almost totally non meat eating.  What I don't understand is their ability to digest so much cellulose-they must come equipped with cellulase but usually animals that are meant to eat that much fiber have more than one stomach and as far as I know, they don't. 

Our closest genetic relatives are the bonobo chimps.  The more I read and the more I experiment with my own diet, the more vegan I become.  Right now I am down to one meat meal a day and the rest fruit, in mono meals. 
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 05:08:10 AM
Wow, this thread didn't get highjacked by BigBobs and Sharma posting nasser's pics once again. Nor by Hulkster's jizz-stained Ronnie pics. Instead of this, we have Sevastase stalking DK like his life depends on it. That's a novelty.

Highjacked by others, not to name names...
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 05:11:02 AM
I've wondered the same thing, I read a paper about it not too long ago, more related to chimps though-that being that they are more omnivorous than most people think-eating rodents, insects...etc.  But gorillas, I read, are almost totally non meat eating.  What I don't understand is their ability to digest so much cellulose-they must come equipped with cellulase but usually animals that are meant to eat that much fiber have more than one stomach and as far as I know, they don't. 

Our closest genetic relatives are the bonobo chimps.  The more I read and the more I experiment with my own diet, the more vegan I become.  Right now I am down to one meat meal a day and the rest fruit, in mono meals. 

I was hoping someone in the know would post their knowledge here but it has become a typical Sevastese vs. Donkeykong thread... :-\
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: DK II on April 01, 2009, 05:20:16 AM
I was hoping someone in the know would post their knowledge here but it has become a typical Sevastese vs. Donkeykong thread... :-\

Sorry, i wish it was different....  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 05:21:32 AM
Sorry, i wish it was different....  :-\ :-\ :-\

Do you know how it is possible that exclusive herbivores are able to carry that much muscle mass? Think about Water Buffalo too...does anyone know? ???
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: kiwiol on April 01, 2009, 05:25:59 AM
I was hoping someone in the know would post their knowledge here but it has become a typical Sevastese vs. Donkeykong thread... :-\

I'm not an expert in the area, but the physiology of Apes isn't the same as that of humans. And while protein plays a big role in human muscle synthesis, it doesn't mean that every animal or organism out there is similar in that aspect. Every living organism needs some kind of energy to sustain itself and the amount of meat or protein they consume (if they do at all) doesn't necessarily correlate or correspond to their intrinsic strength, mass or physical capability. Which is why horses, for example, that don't eat any meat or a diet that is protein rich are way stronger than say a human being, who eats a lot of meat.

It all boils down to the physical attributes that every species out there has - apes are way stronger than humans and a lot of them are bigger too, just like we are incomparably more intelligent - it's just the way things are.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: DK II on April 01, 2009, 05:28:21 AM
I'm not an expert in the area, but the physiology of Apes isn't the same as that of humans. And while protein plays a big role in human muscle synthesis, it doesn't mean that every animal or organism out there is similar in that aspect. Every living organism needs some kind of energy to sustain itself and the amount of meat or protein they consume (if they do at all) doesn't necessarily correlate or correspond to their intrinsic strength, mass or physical capability. Which is why horses, for example, that don't eat any meat or a diet that is protein rich are way stronger than say a human being, who eats a lot of meat.

It all boils down to the physical attributes that every species out there has - apes are way stronger than humans and a lot of them are bigger too, just like we are incomparably more intelligent - it's just the way things are.

Very good answer!

If i might add, for examples crocodiles can live up to a year without eating at all, if they are in a warm place. The warmth of the sun is enough for them to regulate their metabolism. I can't explain this properly as well.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Deicide on April 01, 2009, 05:29:21 AM
I'm not an expert in the area, but the physiology of Apes isn't the same as that of humans. And while protein plays a big role in human muscle synthesis, it doesn't mean that every animal or organism out there is similar in that aspect. Every living organism needs some kind of energy to sustain itself and the amount of meat or protein they consume (if they do at all) doesn't necessarily correlate or correspond to their intrinsic strength, mass or physical capability. Which is why horses, for example, that don't eat any meat or a diet that is protein rich are way stronger than say a human being, who eats a lot of meat.

It all boils down to the physical attributes that every species out there has - apes are way stronger than humans and a lot of them are bigger too, just like we are incomparably more intelligent - it's just the way things are.

That kind of means that herbivores have vastly superior mechanisms for protein synthesis...kind of like natural steroids... ;D
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: RZA on April 01, 2009, 05:31:34 AM
Also don't forget most herbivores don't move that much. They spend their days eating and saving their energy. Herbivores don't waste calories id they don't need to. What comes naturally to animals doesn't to humans.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 01, 2009, 05:33:10 AM
Also don't forget most herbivores don't move that much. They spend their days eating and saving their energy. Herbivores don't waste calories id they don't need to. What comes naturally to animals doesn't to humans.
::)
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on April 01, 2009, 05:38:32 AM
Gorillas can maintain muscle better than humans because they are gorillas.

End thread
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: DK II on April 01, 2009, 05:39:43 AM
Also don't forget most herbivores don't move that much. They spend their days eating and saving their energy. Herbivores don't waste calories id they don't need to. What comes naturally to animals doesn't to humans.

true, very good. Also the brain doesn't need as many calories as the human brain.

Gorillas can maintain muscle better than humans because they are gorillas.

End thread

cool!
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: FREDO on April 01, 2009, 05:43:29 AM
because only brainwashed bodybuilders are dumb enough to think you need all that protein to build muscle.......keep spending money on supplements though
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: CoolDuck on April 01, 2009, 06:49:09 AM
(http://thiswayplease.com/extra-extra/wp-content/photos/munch480.jpg)

Need to work upper chest and front delts....

CD
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 01, 2009, 07:19:18 AM
because only brainwashed bodybuilders are dumb enough to think you need all that protein to build muscle.......keep spending money on supplements though

x2  ;D
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: CalvinH on April 01, 2009, 07:44:57 AM
Ask dr.chimps.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: FREDO on April 01, 2009, 07:52:32 AM
I've wondered the same thing, I read a paper about it not too long ago, more related to chimps though-that being that they are more omnivorous than most people think-eating rodents, insects...etc.  But gorillas, I read, are almost totally non meat eating.  What I don't understand is their ability to digest so much cellulose-they must come equipped with cellulase but usually animals that are meant to eat that much fiber have more than one stomach and as far as I know, they don't. 

Our closest genetic relatives are the bonobo chimps.  The more I read and the more I experiment with my own diet, the more vegan I become.  Right now I am down to one meat meal a day and the rest fruit, in mono meals. 
very wise choice ......for your health as well as your fitness.......all this protein, more protein crap is all based on advertising......a diet that is 85-90%  raw ,fresh, fruits and vegetables that has no processed food in it is vastly superior for both health and muscle building
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: evandatp on April 01, 2009, 11:52:56 AM
Do you know how it is possible that exclusive herbivores are able to carry that much muscle mass? Think about Water Buffalo too...does anyone know? ???
Muscle:
At a guess: If you have evolved living in the middle of a 24/7 restaurant the caloric needs of so much muscle could be met easily so why not carry it if it helps you survive?

Strength: From what I remember it is limited pretty conservatively in humans:
 'the golgi tendon organ will cause "weightlifting failure" to protect the muscle and tendons from excessive force.'
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golgi_tendon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golgi_tendon)

Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Shawdow on April 01, 2009, 12:00:32 PM
i want to know this too, how do cows and sheep and horses gain hundreds of pounds of muscle
during their life time by just eating grass?
someone explain??

by the way, muscle is muscle, 1 pound of any muscle contains 100 grams of protein
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: darksol on April 01, 2009, 10:30:16 PM
Its all hormones.  If you take a cow ( that eats grass all day ), and roid it up, it will get more muscle.  Cattle farmers have done this for years. Unless you are eating organic meat.  Which came from some skinny as weak cow.  Its actually kind of nice, that cattle ranchers have the Dbol already in the meat for you.  No need to stick yourself every day.  Just have to pay those dam high prices for the meat.

So to put it simply.  Test Levels have more to do with muscle mass, than the foods you eat do. This is why you see black guys at the gym that are huge, and white guys that are not so much.  You diet should be about what will create the most natural hormones possible.  Not how many whey shakes can I down in a day.
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: SamoanIrishman on April 08, 2009, 03:12:19 PM
Gorillas have amazingly small dicks...

Well maybe if you took them to dinner, told them they were pretty first it's grow a little for you.... :-*



Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: dyslexic on April 08, 2009, 11:49:45 PM
You should see my Pitt Bulls. They are both ripped (shredded) and huge. They are everything a bodybuilder can relate to. They don't lift weights or eat a ton of protein. My male Pitt had his nuts cut (by law) when he was very young. Didnt change a damn thing. Still huge, ripped and full of energy... sometimes I think the body finds other ways to manufacture hormones when its original mechanism is jeopardized. Of course, I am talking animals/humans here. Each of their/our anatomic/genetic makeup is vastly different one from the other.


Their genetic makeup is everything. Stand them next to a chihuahua or a Lab and you will see what I mean.


I don't for one second believe that (human) bodybuilders need as much protein as all of the 'experts' have been saying. We have all seen guys ripped, big, blown out calves... you ask them if they work out and they look at you like WTF? Why do people keep asking me this?


Apes and Pitts would be the same way if they could talk.


Genetics dominate everything in every facet of life.


Breaking it down into individuality, anatomy, physiology and kinesiology would be a fun topic.


Ramblin on.... and on.... and on....
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: suckmymuscle on April 16, 2009, 03:09:36 PM
get enough protein to support all their muscle mass? ???

  They eat all day long and they have vastly superior metabolism than Humans at synthesizing protein. It is the same reason bulls make over a thousand pounds of muscular tissue by eating just grass.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: suckmymuscle on April 16, 2009, 09:00:04 PM
thik about this .... some male chimps are 4 times stronger than a regular human male adult

a silverback .... welll ..you do the math  :-\

  There is a thread on this very topic started by me, which is now at the Z board. Gorillas have the upper body strengh of 20+ Humans for several reasons:

  - They have much more absolute muscle mass than Humans.

  - 80% of their muscle mass is in the torso, vs only 30% for Humans, who's most muscle mass is in the buttocks and quadriceps..

  - Their muscles attach to the tendons in positions that give them far superior leverage.

  - Their tendons are 4 times thicker than Humans' and their bones much denser, allowing them to produce much more intense bursts of strengh.

  - They have a much higher proportion of type II muscle fibers than Humans.

  All this results in a creature with the upper body strengh of more than 20 Humans. A chimp has the upper body strengh of 5 Humans, and gorillas are roughly 4 times stronger than chimps.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: dyslexic on April 17, 2009, 12:14:47 AM
  There is a thread on this very topic started by me, which is now at the Z board. Gorillas have the upper body strengh of 20+ Humans for several reasons:

 

  - Their muscles attach to the tendons in positions that give them far superior leverage.

  - Their tendons are 4 times thicker than Humans' and their bones much denser, allowing them to produce much more intense bursts of strengh.

 

 
SUCKMYMUSCLE


Makes you wonder why us humans don't utilize the machines at the gym that give us "more leverage"--
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: suckmymuscle on April 19, 2009, 09:27:26 PM
  "DonkeyKong" and "Sevastase", end the slug fest between you two or I will do it for you - you don't want that. The posts where you trash each other have been removed. Stop it or take it to PM.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do the
Post by: suckmymuscle on April 19, 2009, 09:31:52 PM
Wow, this thread didn't get highjacked by BigBobs and Sharma posting nasser's pics once again. Nor by Hulkster's jizz-stained Ronnie pics. Instead of this, we have Sevastase stalking DK like his life depends on it. That's a novelty.

  It cuts both ways. But "Sevastase" was the worst, posting a picture of a woman licking a dog's asshole and claiming it to be DK's wife. That was way over-the-top nasty and offensive and I am seriously considering removing Sevastase's posting priviledges in this board.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Serious Question: if Gorillas are basically vegetarians, how the hell do they
Post by: Geo on April 19, 2009, 09:52:37 PM
get enough protein to support all their muscle mass? ???


because they eat their babys !