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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: Tats on April 01, 2009, 07:34:42 AM
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So I'm about to get started on a summer cycle and wanted to know if anyone ales has used chems from QV or British Dragon. I just want to make sure its legit stuff because I have never used it.
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If it says British Dragon I would have to say its not. Although it still might be good stuff British Dragon hasn't been around for awhile. I have personaly never delt with QV
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I have delt with QV test e but that was 6 years back or so. It was gooood.
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They are both being counterfeited by IP China!
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They are both being counterfeited by IP China!
Is there a way to tell if its counterfeit or not?
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THERE IS NO MORE ORIGINAL BRITISH DRAGON OR QV, NOT FOR A LONG TIME!!!!!!!
anything with the british dragon or QV label is made by IP
several people i know like the IP stuff much better than the original stuff
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They are both being counterfeited by IP China!
Would you still buy?
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Would you still buy?
There are better alternatives out there.
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Would you still buy?
no bro dont buy british dragon it has been a no go they used to make good tabs awhile back but now are known to be counterfeit its all over the boards and in the books also..... someone showed me an old bottle of QV eq and he said he liked it but it was awhile back and i dont think he knows what good is.... there too much guess work with those ug labs thats why everone recomends getting some hg gear they..... your able to verify them better buy looking at them and if it says organon sust 250 u know your getting 250mgs and that goes with alot of them and they are useally in amps which cant be filled in the bathroom or basement.... alot of people are looking into these ug labs to verify if they are legit but it will be a while before the results are out dont chance it
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Would you still buy?
Nope!
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QV back in the day was pretty good...but now i believe ip makes it and the quality went down with the original company...QVs EQ was the shit
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So I'm about to get started on a summer cycle and wanted to know if anyone ales has used chems from QV or British Dragon. I just want to make sure its legit stuff because I have never used it.
Both QV and BD are non-existent now.
Don't use either.
DIV
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IP makes fake QV stuff that does actually contain real hormone, its just that no one knows how much actual hormone the product contains. I know someone who has used "QV" with good results but there are so many better options out there.
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IP makes fake QV stuff that does actually contain real hormone, its just that no one knows how much actual hormone the product contains. I know someone who has used "QV" with good results but there are so many better options out there.
Both QV and BD are now IP counterfeits.
Neither are legit.
I already covered this a LONG time ago.
DIV
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Both QV and BD are non-existent now.
Don't use either.
DIV
LOL, exactly... underdosed garbage from I.P
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They are both being counterfeited by IP China!
True,
I never really liked the original BD, only their tabs. Oils never felt up to far.
Conversely, the original QV stuff was slamming back in the day. when it ACTUALLY WAS QV. Kinda makes me sick that china is just exploiting the name. That being said, I have a friend who just ran QV test C @ 500 mgs EW and put on 20 lbs. Quality control just isnt there IMO
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i use some bd right now and i have had soem damn good results so could be batch dependent, i had some left over but i liked it, i def dont depend on the brand
muscle
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True,
I never really liked the original BD, only their tabs. Oils never felt up to far.
Conversely, the original QV stuff was slamming back in the day. when it ACTUALLY WAS QV. Kinda makes me sick that china is just exploiting the name. That being said, I have a friend who just ran QV test C @ 500 mgs EW and put on 20 lbs. Quality control just isnt there IMO
20lbs seems like quality to me, unless there were horrible sides along with that 20lbs
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20lbs seems like quality to me, unless there were horrible sides along with that 20lbs
No he liked it alot. But seems for every one person that gets properly dosed gear, another guy comes out and says the opposite.
Just my .2cc's
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No he liked it alot. But seems for every one person that gets properly dosed gear, another guy comes out and says the opposite.
Just my .2cc's
The only way that's possible is if there's a quality control issue and batches are inconsistent.
If that's the case, you'll have differing opinions on the same product.....
Then again you have to take in to account genetics, hyper-responders, etc.......
DIV
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I have a female friend who ran a bottle of QV primo... well that bottle did not contain primo.. she gained a lot of bloat and weight.. so it was probably test. I would stay away from that garbage.
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I have a female friend who ran a bottle of QV primo... well that bottle did not contain primo.. she gained a lot of bloat and weight.. so it was probably test. I would stay away from that garbage.
Why did you let her use it?
Horrible lapse of judgement, James.
Her body probably thought she was on a "bulker"..... :-X
DIV
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IP's QV line is legit, he's always been a leader in the field imo.
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IP's QV line is legit, he's always been a leader in the field imo.
Hahahahah... yeah ok, cheap chinese underdosed shit that's been known to cause abcesses.
worst garbage ever, stay away at all costs... even his regular injectable's are the same way.
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IP's QV line is legit, he's always been a leader in the field imo.
No, LoomZoom......
IP is shit quality.
This guy is bottom of the barrel......... ::)
DIV
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I know several people using IP's QV line exclusively for a couple years, never pain and they're always big and strong, how else to measure it's effectiveness? It works.
Shit I'd hate to see these fucks on properly dosed gear if QV is underdosed :P
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I know several people using IP's QV line exclusively for a couple years, never pain and they're always big and strong, how else to measure it's effectiveness? It works.
Shit I'd hate to see these fucks on properly dosed gear if QV is underdosed :P
I haven't known anyone who's liked IP's injectibles..........eve r.
Too much bad feedback on it to take it seriously.
DIV
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QV is made by a pharmaceutical company for him I believe, he's the owner. It's real and works, not sure about the past or whatever other lines he had available. Like I said if it's underdosed then these really are some big ass dudes ! ;D
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Why did you let her use it?
Horrible lapse of judgement, James.
Her body probably thought she was on a "bulker"..... :-X
DIV
I didnt see what she was using until she already ran 9ml of the bottle... I'm not her daddy.. and she didnt check with me before she ran primo.. so stop trying to make me feel guilty.. lol.
just reporting a real situation that tells me QV primo = test.
and yes.. her body was pretty much bulking.. the exact opposite of what she wants.. being in fitness.
for primo I would never use anything aside legit HG or powder. powder.. you can tell by looking at it which drug it is.
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Ok I think mods should make this effin topic a sticky. I mean how many times does this topic have to come up? QV hasn't existed for years. Yes all QV and BD is now manufactured by IP China. What's funny is to see all everyone in this thread bashing the QV line when most of you have never even used the shit. DIVISION you are full of shit because I know TONS of people that swear by IP's QV line and have had great results. Just go to any of the major boards i.e. Outlaw, Anabolex etc. The only ones claiming he's shit are BOS and that's because they tout other UG brands all the time. It's not "fake". Counterfeit if you want to call it that but definitely not fake. Is it clean? Who knows. It has never been tested. That's another thing...........all these opinions about IP China's gear being shit quality and fake yet SHOW ME ONE LAB TEST recently showing his gear is fake or shitty? You can't. BodyOfScience refuses to test his gear. IP has access to the same powders that everyone else does. Axio, Sciroxx, Syntrop etc. All those powders you think are so great that some of you are using for home brew..........LMAO! How do you know that? When was the last time you had any of your shit tested?
Now PERSONALLY, I'VE actually used IP's gear and specifically his QV line. His EQ and Test E. Both were good. I don't use his gear anymore as I prefer gear made in amps and HG. But IP China has been in the game for a long time and puts his reputation on the line. You either love him or hate him.........there are plenty that love his products and plenty that don't.