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Title: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Parker on April 03, 2009, 01:25:27 PM
Here are two vids of the 1972 Mr. O Arnold V. Sergio

In the second vid, what is up with Sergio's wiggle? ??? But his taper is still unreal, no matter how many times I see the pics.



Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Lord Humungous on April 03, 2009, 01:28:34 PM
Sergio looks freakin unreal!!
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on April 03, 2009, 01:38:08 PM
Arnie destroys him
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 03, 2009, 01:39:45 PM
Here are two vids of the 1972 Mr. O Arnold V. Sergio

In the second vid, what is up with Sergio's wiggle? ??? But his taper is still unreal, no matter how many times I see the pics.





Sergio's posing sucked , amazing physique though
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Danimal77 on April 03, 2009, 05:35:30 PM
Dexter Jackson or Sergio?
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: pumpster on April 03, 2009, 05:37:58 PM
Sergio's posing sucked

Weak analysis-if that had been true, he'd not have been known for the most unique and arguably most compelling pose ever, the victory pose. In truth his posing could have been better but was solid not poor.

'72 was close; neither was at peak condition.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: England_1 on April 03, 2009, 05:45:24 PM
Weak analysis-if that had been true, he'd not have been known for the most unique and arguably most compelling pose ever, the victory pose. In truth his posing could have been better but was solid not poor.

'72 was close; neither was at peak condition.

There's a difference between hitting a static pose, and performing a dynamic posing routine, moron. Sergio looked like a retard posing....ala Dillet. He clearly had more size and density than Arnold, but was not as conditioned or polished. Arnold wins.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 03, 2009, 05:49:23 PM
If that had been true, he'd not have been known for the most unique and arguably most compelling pose ever, the victory pose. Poor analysis. His posing was ok there, not poor or excellent.


No I beg to differ one pose doesn't compensate for his lack of abilities in most of the other mandatory poses , for a professional bodybuilder his posing left a lot to be desired just because he got it right on one pose doesn't mean anything in all the others , his routines sucked , he didn't hold his poses long enough , his transitions were awkward , he absolutely put no effort into physique control he didn't show off his physique to it's best and he posed way to quickly overall my assessment stands true his posing sucked 

kudos to you for sticking to topic and not supplementing your comments with a personal attack  :D

Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Pollux on April 03, 2009, 05:50:51 PM
You've got to hand it to Sergio when even Arnold himself said that he thought Sergio had him at the '72 Olympia.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 03, 2009, 05:52:36 PM
You've got to hand it to Sergio when even Arnold himself said that he thought Sergio had him at the '72 Olympia.

When did he say this?
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Pollux on April 03, 2009, 05:53:18 PM
Arnie destroys him

I'm the BIGGEST Arnold guy here on Getbig, and even I can admit Sergio looked really good. Definitely gave Arnold a run for his money that year. I wouldn't say Arnold 'destroyed' him.  ::)
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Pollux on April 03, 2009, 05:55:32 PM
When did he say this?

I'm trying to rattle my brain here. I have such a HUGE collection of Arnold magazines/books/etc. that I wanna say it was in one of those. I'd have to search high and low to find the quote, but it's one that stood out and I remember.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 03, 2009, 05:57:06 PM
I'm the BIGGEST Arnold guy here on Getbig, and even I can admit Sergio looked really good. Definitely gave Arnold a run for his money that year. I wouldn't say Arnold 'destroyed' him.  ::)

Sergio was way ahead of his time and when Arnold feared him that speaks volumes , I'm torn about 72 in some pics Arnold looks like the winner in others I say Sergio , but there is relatively little great footage to gauge from , Weider has to have some high quality shots of this contest maybe he's withholding them for a reason lol
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Pollux on April 03, 2009, 06:04:28 PM
Sergio was way ahead of his time and when Arnold feared him that speaks volumes , I'm torn about 72 in some pics Arnold looks like the winner in others I say Sergio , but there is relatively little great footage to gauge from , Weider has to have some high quality shots of this contest maybe he's withholding them for a reason lol

I remember in an interview Sergio did [MuscleMag, I think] he said that when they were backstage before the awards, he was in front of the line and Arnold was behind him. Joe Weider came along and switched Sergio's and Arnold's position where now The Oak was in front.

It was then that Sergio knew something was not right.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Pollux on April 03, 2009, 06:14:47 PM
When did he say this?

I found it...

"Certainly Sergio was great enough in Germany to take the Mr. Olympia title," Arnold reflected afterward. "And let me tell you that had he been awarded the number one spot, I would have been the very first to congratulate him. I will go further and admit that had I been a judge in Germany, I would have voted in favor of Oliva over me."
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on April 03, 2009, 06:22:02 PM
I found it...

"Certainly Sergio was great enough in Germany to take the Mr. Olympia title," Arnold reflected afterward. "And let me tell you that had he been awarded the number one spot, I would have been the very first to congratulate him. I will go further and admit that had I been a judge in Germany, I would have voted in favor of Oliva over me."

Cool , was that from his book?
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Pollux on April 03, 2009, 06:28:04 PM
Cool , was that from his book?

It's from the book, Fantastic: The Life and Times of Arnold Schwarzenegger. I remember Arnold being quoted somewhere else saying the same thing along those lines.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Mr.1derful on April 03, 2009, 07:22:34 PM

No I beg to differ one pose doesn't compensate for his lack of abilities in most of the other mandatory poses , for a professional bodybuilder his posing left a lot to be desired just because he got it right on one pose doesn't mean anything in all the others , his routines sucked , he didn't hold his poses long enough , his transitions were awkward , he absolutely put no effort into physique control he didn't show off his physique to it's best and he posed way to quickly overall my assessment stands true his posing sucked 

kudos to you for sticking to topic and not supplementing your comments with a personal attack  :D



Holy shit, you're not kidding.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: gracie bjj on April 04, 2009, 12:42:11 AM
the backround curtain or wall favors arnolds coloring over serges also,the wall is almost the same color as serges skin tone where arnold skin tone stands out alot better with the backround coloring,and when you have a competition thats that close something like the backround can mean the difference between 1st and 2nd place imo.it makes serge appear smoother then he really was imo and made arnold stand out better and look harder,overall i think arnold edged him out barely though.im wondering if anyone on getbig(oldtimers) was at that show in germany to give thier honest opinion of who should have won that show between the myth and the oak
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: closeline on April 04, 2009, 01:39:19 AM
arnold was so much better especially from the side

only an idiot couldn t see that he was
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: TRIX on April 04, 2009, 02:35:29 AM
NOTICE HIS FAMOUS ARMS ABOVE HEAD POSE, HIS ARMS ARE NO WHERE NEAR DWARFING HIS HEAD

 ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
cant pose for shit
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 04, 2009, 05:05:20 AM
Sergio made Arnold look skinny in some poses, but it was really close like others have said.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: big man on April 04, 2009, 05:25:41 AM
I'd rather have Sergios physique.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Deicide on April 04, 2009, 05:42:49 AM
Here are two vids of the 1972 Mr. O Arnold V. Sergio

In the second vid, what is up with Sergio's wiggle? ??? But his taper is still unreal, no matter how many times I see the pics.





What song is that?
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Mr.1derful on April 04, 2009, 05:49:01 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=53177.0;attach=58794;image)

(http://www.builtreport.com/1972olympia/007.jpg)

(http://www.builtreport.com/1972olympia/035.jpg)
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: big man on April 04, 2009, 06:00:28 AM
guy on the left. Truly a tough comparison though.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Danimal77 on May 18, 2009, 07:53:35 PM
Sergio was the Ronnie Coleman of that era.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Pollux on May 19, 2009, 04:04:54 AM
From what I've read about Sergio he doesn't like to discuss his bodybuilding days, not even to his son. In fact, he left FLEX writer Shawn Perine high and dry when he tried to do a story on the Myth for the August 2003 issue only to improvise the article and call it Searching for Sergio.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: nukkaready on May 19, 2009, 06:07:01 AM
Sergio is the perfect example of a bodybuilder with immense physical genetics combined with a low IQ
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Mr. Magoo on May 19, 2009, 06:19:09 AM
From what I've read about Sergio he doesn't like to discuss his bodybuilding days, not even to his son. In fact, he left FLEX writer Shawn Perine high and dry when he tried to do a story on the Myth for the August 2003 issue only to improvise the article and call it Searching for Sergio.

I've never heard of this but thanks for telling it. I'm not questioning you at all I'm just saying that story is new to me. Even though leaving Shawn Perine high and dry is a douche move, you have to admit sergio got screwed over a lot in his bodybuilding career, and he put more time and effort in it than most did. Him working 12 hours at a factory and then working out for a couple of hours and then going to a class at night to learn english, while Joe Weider payed for Arnold's rent, etc.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: hazbin on May 19, 2009, 12:45:26 PM
the backround curtain or wall favors arnolds coloring over serges also,the wall is almost the same color as serges skin tone where arnold skin tone stands out alot better with the backround coloring,and when you have a competition thats that close something like the backround can mean the difference between 1st and 2nd place imo.it makes serge appear smoother then he really was imo and made arnold stand out better and look harder,overall i think arnold edged him out barely though.im wondering if anyone on getbig(oldtimers) was at that show in germany to give thier honest opinion of who should have won that show between the myth and the oak

Arnold actually recommended that spot for the prejudging. they didnt' know where to hold it and Arnold suggested that room. he later admitted he picked it because he knew Sergio would blend in and he would stand out.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: pumpster on May 19, 2009, 12:47:01 PM
A lot of Schwarzenegger's claims in terms of contest strategy are in fact revisionist history that was said after the fact. Hard to prove or disprove but sounds good to those who are willing to believe it without question, as many are to this day.


Sergio is the perfect example of a bodybuilder with immense physical genetics combined with a low IQ

Someone with low IQ would make that assumption without really knowing, based on his accent, etc.
Title: Re: Mr. O 1972 Videos- Arnold v. Sergio
Post by: Swedish Viking on May 19, 2009, 01:05:04 PM
What song is that?

  Breaking Benjamin, So Cold.