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http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/04/north.korea.rocket/index.html
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President Obama tested...and failed.
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President Obama tested...and failed.
You and Benny Bianco should have a fight.
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Regardless he's still be a cowardly naive lib.....wouldn't fighting hurt ur feelings anyway.
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Ok Barry..whats the plan now. They got away with the launch without anything happening. Barry wants nKorea punished...how? With what..a fucking letter. Its to late u moron. U let em launch, I'll assume u told the Japs to stand down...now what?
"Um ah, well we're gonna send a letter, um and we're going enforce sanctions, and we'll tell em to stop, they'll listen, I'm the Obamessish...everybody loves me".
WORTHLESS!
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Regardless he's still be a cowardly naive lib.....wouldn't fighting hurt ur feelings anyway.
No. Both of you are psychopathic guys with violent tendencies and have a lot in common. It would be a good fight I think. :)
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I'm not psychopathic...maybe he is. Ur mistaking not being a naive pussy, for being nuts...let me know when ur balls drop.
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I'm not psychopathic...maybe he is. Ur mistaking not being a naive pussy, for being nuts...let me know when ur balls drop.
Still would be a good fight! :) You'd probably win though...
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President Obama tested...and failed.
The missile stayed on course.
What should he have done, HH6? Shot it down?
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The missile stayed on course.
What should he have done, HH6? Shot it down?
Rob, did I already say you were THE MAN?
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Now that Kim Jung Il has BITCH SLAPPED both Bush and Obama he is now waving BALLS the size of a mobile home and a dick just a long and telling america ...TAKE THAT YOU BITCH...
That man is my hero...
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Now that Kim Jung Il has BITCH SLAPPED both Bush and Obama he is now waving BALLS the size of a mobile home and a dick just a long and telling america ...TAKE THAT YOU BITCH...
That man is my hero...
Not a popular thing to say here...will garner you much ill talk...
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Let's invade N. Korea.
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Let's invade N. Korea.
Hell, let's bomb the whole rest of the world!
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Not a popular thing to say here...will garner you much ill talk...
I learned in life NOT to follow the crowd lest they lead me over the side of a cliff...rather research, learn and investigate for myself the truth of matters....and if some feathers are ruffled in the process...so be it. Those that go along without questioning are the SHEEPLE who are fast and easily lead to slaughter.
I will now await the "much ill talk"...it's not like I have net heard enough of it already.
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I learned in life NOT to follow the crowd lest they lead me over the side of a cliff...rather research, learn and investigate for myself the truth of matters....and if some feathers are ruffled in the process...so be it. Those that go along without questioning are the SHEEPLE who are fast and easily lead to slaughter.
I will now await the "much ill talk"...it's not like I have net heard enough of it already.
you may have just replaced me as the most hated here for liking Hugo Chavez :)
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The missile stayed on course.
What should he have done, HH6? Shot it down?
Yeah...what now...what will Obama do now..nothing..no thing notathing. U don't fire up the retoric and BS and then watch them fire a missile...either ignore it or do something. Obama is a world class pussy and thats finally on display. Now all the idiots who thought Obama was weak, now know it. They should have shot it down, if u say don't launch...then u back that up. The UN will do nothing.
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Yeah...what now...what will Obama do now..nothing..no thing notathing. U don't fire up the retoric and BS and then watch them fire a missile...either ignore it or do something. Obama is a world class pussy and thats finally on display. Now all the idiots who thought Obama was weak, now know it. They should have shot it down, if u say don't launch...then u back that up. The UN will do nothing.
What should he do or have done?
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What should he do or have done?
Bump for HH6 answer
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Oops North Korea did it again.................
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Ooga Booga. For some reason I just don`t think it really matters. Any Human who participates in war is a moron no matter where they are from or what the cause. Humans are massively ignorant.
Only one man could have saved us. Luckily his ideas live on as long as people take the time to listen:
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excellent
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you may have just replaced me as the most hated here for liking Hugo Chavez :)
I do not hate Hugo Chavez, neither one of you. Just thought I'd make that clear. :)
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I do not hate Hugo Chavez, neither one of you. Just thought I'd make that clear. :)
you're fine by me too ;D
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you may have just replaced me as the most hated here for liking Hugo Chavez :)
I accept my title as the MOST HATED with honors... :)
If speaking the truth makes me a target then so be it....I see it as better to make someone mad at me for speeking the truth and hopefully waking themup to the REAL REALITY of what is happening in the world...than to go along with and/or tell them the lies which are so prevelant just to make them feel good for the moment before CALAMITY STRIKES.
Don't hate me posters...
I just want people to see what is really happening and not fool themselves into anything otherwise....
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And why exactly are u the one who will show us the "light". We have guys who are lawyers and doctors, we have guys who have traveled, we have guys who just work for a living and we have guys who are cops or in the military. They all bring a perspective...what do u bring...where are u from, what do u for a living and why should anybody give u the time of day.
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And why exactly are u the one who will show us the "light". We have guys who are lawyers and doctors, we have guys who have traveled, we have guys who just work for a living and we have guys who are cops or in the military. They all bring a perspective...what do u bring...where are u from, what do u for a living and why should anybody give u the time of day.
But he's got internet access!!!!! ::)
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And why exactly are u the one who will show us the "light". We have guys who are lawyers and doctors, we have guys who have traveled, we have guys who just work for a living and we have guys who are cops or in the military. They all bring a perspective...what do u bring...where are u from, what do u for a living and why should anybody give u the time of day.
And here I thought only the military perspective was the right one...
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And why exactly are u the one who will show us the "light". We have guys who are lawyers and doctors, we have guys who have traveled, we have guys who just work for a living and we have guys who are cops or in the military. They all bring a perspective...what do u bring...where are u from, what do u for a living and why should anybody give u the time of day.
HH6, you never answered the Q.
You criticize Obama. What would you have done differently against an NK launch?
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HH6, you never answered the Q.
You criticize Obama. What would you have done differently against an NK launch?
Invade them and steal their resources! Wait... :-\, they don't have any!
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Hey decide...I think ur close to useless ;) but u have traveled and we have a have assed resume on u so I respect the fact that u post with a perspective regardless of its anti-American bent. What do we know about SAMSON..he hates whites, loves rags and hates America.
240 I answered it...if I were President i would have authorized or pushed the Japs to nail it...I think we told them not to. Short of that I would have knocked it down.....
I was in the ROK whe this all touched off and the Japs were saying they were gonna smoke it, then USPACOM said we'df do it....Obama told em to stand down. Gates then said we were'nt, after he must have smoked that Admiral for saying we would.
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Yeah...what now...what will Obama do now..nothing..no thing notathing. U don't fire up the retoric and BS and then watch them fire a missile...either ignore it or do something. Obama is a world class pussy and thats finally on display. Now all the idiots who thought Obama was weak, now know it. They should have shot it down, if u say don't launch...then u back that up. The UN will do nothing.
240 when have a backed away from a straightforward question.
Oh and if i were Bush, I wouldn't have had to do anything because they never would have launched. This was to test Barry. He failed.
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Ooga Booga. For some reason I just don`t think it really matters. Any Human who participates in war is a moron no matter where they are from or what the cause. Humans are massively ignorant.
Only one man could have saved us. Luckily his ideas live on as long as people take the time to listen:
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What does it really matter? We are in a modern day feudalistic society with only more consolidation and further slavery on its way. We (average Americans) will all be reduced to farm animals serving our masters (the elite), whether it is world government, King, Bank, or Corporation. I say launch the nukes and blow it all up. If my property and my labor is going to be stolen and used for evil I would sooner lose my life in an attempt to kill the master and destroy the system, rather than become an accessory to enslave my fellow man.
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Interesting if nothing else.
Fifty-seven percent (57%) of U.S. voters nationwide favor a military response to eliminate North Korea’s missile launching capability. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that just 15% of voters oppose a military response while 28% are not sure.
The telephone survey was conducted Friday and Saturday, April 3-4, the two days immediately prior to North Korea’s launch. The question asked about a military response if North Korea actually did launch a long-range missile.
Overall, 75% of voters say they’ve been closely following news stories about the possible launch. That figure includes 40% who’ve followed the news Very Closely.
Would 57% favor a one-off strike on North Korea's known rocket facilities? Sure, I believe that and I'm surprised that number isn't larger.
What I don't believe is that 57% favor a more involved confrontation than a one-off strike. And I don't believe that Li'l Kim would fail to turn an attack on his rocket or nuclear facilities into a protracted engagement across the Korea DMZ. Just because we'd like him to do nothing in retaliation doesn't mean he will.
I'm also a little skeptical about the self-reported 75% of voters who think they have been "closely following" this story. That seems rather like a lot more than my own experience. Yes, anecdote is not data, but around my office--all professionals, all regular voters--I wouldn't bet two in ten knew anything about the launch. I think it's much more likely that when Rassmussen calls you up and asks, "Hey, have you heard", most people will say, "Yes, of course" just so they don't feel like ninnies.
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Hey decide...I think ur close to useless ;) but u have traveled and we have a have assed resume on u so I respect the fact that u post with a perspective regardless of its anti-American bent. What do we know about SAMSON..he hates whites, loves rags and hates America.
240 I answered it...if I were President i would have authorized or pushed the Japs to nail it...I think we told them not to. Short of that I would have knocked it down.....
I was in the ROK whe this all touched off and the Japs were saying they were gonna smoke it, then USPACOM said we'df do it....Obama told em to stand down. Gates then said we were'nt, after he must have smoked that Admiral for saying we would.
I disagree with you most of the time because you come off as an Imperialist. However, you offer a different perspective, stand behind your remarks with personal experience, and don't result to name calling so I respect you for that.
I agree with SAMSON's post almost 100% and I think we have read a lot of the same material, but I agree he does seem to be hiding behind the cloak of anonymity.
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Interesting if nothing else.
Fifty-seven percent (57%) of U.S. voters nationwide favor a military response to eliminate North Korea’s missile launching capability. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that just 15% of voters oppose a military response while 28% are not sure.
The telephone survey was conducted Friday and Saturday, April 3-4, the two days immediately prior to North Korea’s launch. The question asked about a military response if North Korea actually did launch a long-range missile.
Overall, 75% of voters say they’ve been closely following news stories about the possible launch. That figure includes 40% who’ve followed the news Very Closely.
Would 57% favor a one-off strike on North Korea's known rocket facilities? Sure, I believe that and I'm surprised that number isn't larger.
What I don't believe is that 57% favor a more involved confrontation than a one-off strike. And I don't believe that Li'l Kim would fail to turn an attack on his rocket or nuclear facilities into a protracted engagement across the Korea DMZ. Just because we'd like him to do nothing in retaliation doesn't mean he will.
I'm also a little skeptical about the self-reported 75% of voters who think they have been "closely following" this story. That seems rather like a lot more than my own experience. Yes, anecdote is not data, but around my office--all professionals, all regular voters--I wouldn't bet two in ten knew anything about the launch. I think it's much more likely that when Rassmussen calls you up and asks, "Hey, have you heard", most people will say, "Yes, of course" just so they don't feel like ninnies.
56% of which can't locate North Korea on a map... ;)
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I wasn't even looking for the poll..but there it is.
Storm..I want to know where he's from...what his experience is...if I have to rachet up the retoric at the expense of Decide or anybody else, I'll do it. Hugo and I have discused this and we both want to know where he's from. I don't need a real resume but..where he's from..age experience etc, in general terms would be great. If he's 15 and living in a hut in Uganda..then I can stop wasting my valuable screw off time...answering his idiotic posts.
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I wasn't even looking for the poll..but there it is.
Storm..I want to know where he's from...what his experience is...if I have to rachet up the retoric at the expense of Decide or anybody else, I'll do it. Hugo and I have discused this and we both want to know where he's from. I don't need a real resume but..where he's from..age experience etc, in general terms would be great. If he's 15 and living in a hut in Uganda..then I can stop wasting my valuable screw off time...answering his idiotic posts.
I'll chime in for myself.
I'm 29, have a degree in Plastics Engineering and work for Rubbermaid as a Product Engineer. I traveled to Egypt in 2001.
Around age 23 I started to research the national debt and went down a rabbit hole that started with banking, and ends with global conspiracy. I am open and believe there can be just as much Mis-information read by truth seekers such as myself, so in the end I realize we can only draw conclusions from the information we have, and even then, we never know for sure what is truth and what is not.
I enjoy discussion of Banking, because banking conspiracy is easy to prove. War, and overseas entanglements is much more difficult to unravel.
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I'll chime in for myself.
I'm 29, have a degree in Plastics Engineering and work for Rubbermaid as a Product Engineer. I traveled to Egypt in 2001.
Around age 23 I started to research the national debt and went down a rabbit hole that started with banking, and ends with global conspiracy. I am open and believe there can be just as much Mis-information read by truth seekers such as myself, so in the end I realize we can only draw conclusions from the information we have, and even then, we never know for sure what is truth and what is not.
I enjoy discussion of Banking, because banking conspiracy is easy to prove. War, and overseas entanglements is much more difficult to unravel.
Props to you....engineering is a great profession. :)
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I'll chime in for myself.
I'm 29, have a degree in Plastics Engineering and work for Rubbermaid as a Product Engineer. I traveled to Egypt in 2001.
Around age 23 I started to research the national debt and went down a rabbit hole that started with banking, and ends with global conspiracy. I am open and believe there can be just as much Mis-information read by truth seekers such as myself, so in the end I realize we can only draw conclusions from the information we have, and even then, we never know for sure what is truth and what is not.
I enjoy discussion of Banking, because banking conspiracy is easy to prove. War, and overseas entanglements is much more difficult to unravel.
I prefer war and politics...engineering might as well be magic to me. Its all point of view. ;D
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Hey decide...I think ur close to useless ;) but u have traveled and we have a have assed resume on u so I respect the fact that u post with a perspective regardless of its anti-American bent. What do we know about SAMSON..he hates whites, loves rags and hates America.
240 I answered it...if I were President i would have authorized or pushed the Japs to nail it...I think we told them not to. Short of that I would have knocked it down.....
I was in the ROK whe this all touched off and the Japs were saying they were gonna smoke it, then USPACOM said we'df do it....Obama told em to stand down. Gates then said we were'nt, after he must have smoked that Admiral for saying we would.
You mean shoot it down?
That would have just caused more problems, even more if we missed.
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HH6 probably would have sent Bombers during the Cuban Missile Crisis thus causing a Nuclear War. He knows nothing of diplomacy, only how to pull the trigger like some deranged savage governed by fear and ruled by hate.
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hh6 said, obama personally called off the strike on nk's "missle"?
a link would be nice
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I'll chime in for myself.
I'm 29, have a degree in Plastics Engineering and work for Rubbermaid as a Product Engineer. I traveled to Egypt in 2001.
Around age 23 I started to research the national debt and went down a rabbit hole that started with banking, and ends with global conspiracy. I am open and believe there can be just as much Mis-information read by truth seekers such as myself, so in the end I realize we can only draw conclusions from the information we have, and even then, we never know for sure what is truth and what is not.
I enjoy discussion of Banking, because banking conspiracy is easy to prove. War, and overseas entanglements is much more difficult to unravel.
What books would you recommend in regards to a world banking conspiracy? I know your information is cumulative though, if there are a few book you could suggest I'd appreciate it.
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What books would you recommend in regards to a world banking conspiracy? I know your information is cumulative though, if there are a few book you could suggest I'd appreciate it.
Don`t buy into conspiracies. As Sagan says, Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. You are smarter than that;
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HH6 probably would have sent Bombers during the Cuban Missile Crisis thus causing a Nuclear War. He knows nothing of diplomacy, only how to pull the trigger like some deranged savage governed by fear and ruled by hate.
Ah no...go back to dieting dipshit. Cuba was fueling missiles and Soviet Navy ships were off our coast. nKorea is an isolated starving nation..big friggen difference.
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hh6 said, obama personally called off the strike on nk's "missle"?
a link would be nice
Yeah....the PACOM CDR said we'd knock it down....the Japs said they were gonna knock it down....then Sec Gates said we were't gonna do anything. Read between the lines...Barry cried to the UN and the miget laughed as he filled orders for his rockets.
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President Obama tested...and failed.
Did they not test while bush was in office. What did he do.. and what was your response to that one
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Tell me HH6.... did N. korea not test on 10-9-06????
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Yep and it fell apart 40 secinds after launch...and its 2009 and Bush isn't president. u guys need to get past Bush. Barry did nothing.
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Tell me HH6.... did N. korea not test on 10-9-06????
they set off a nuke then, didn't they?
How did Bush react? Bribe them with a million barrels of oil to stop it?
Barry did nothing, but at least he didn't bribe them
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Yeah 240....he continued a program started under ur hero Bill Clinton that got us in this postion in the first place.
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U realize Bush isn't president. Barry ran on changing the world..so far he can't get Europe to send troops to Afghanistan, he can't stop the Russians, who did nothing with Bush around....he can't get anybody to do anything and he bad mouths the US every time he goes someplace.
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So I guess because Bush "bribed" nKorea...its ok for Barry the useless...to whine to the UN and then do nothing.
Prior to North Korea's launch yesterday of a Taepodong-2 ballistic missile, President Barack Obama declared that such an action would be "provocative." This public statement was an attempt to reinforce the administration's private efforts to urge the Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea (DPRK) not to fire the missile.
APThat effort failed, as have countless other attempts to deal softly with Pyongyang. Incredibly, U.S. Special Envoy for North Korea Stephen Bosworth revealed -- just a few days before the launch -- that he was ready to visit Pyongyang and resume the six-party talks once the "dust from the missiles settles." It is no wonder the North fired away.
Once the missile shot was complete, the administration's answer was hand-wringing, more rhetoric and, oh yes, the obligatory trip to the U.N. Security Council so that it could scold the defiant DPRK. Beyond whatever happens in the Security Council, Mr. Obama seems to have no plan whatever.
In 2006, when Pyongyang last lit off a volley of missiles and then exploded a nuclear device, the Security Council responded unanimously with Resolutions 1695 and 1718, which imposed extensive military and some economic sanctions. Unfortunately, the impact of these resolutions was dramatically undercut by subsequent Bush administration diplomacy, which effectively let North Korea off the hook. By re-engaging Pyongyang diplomatically rather than increasing the external pressure, George W. Bush relegitimized the North and gave it yet more time to bargain.
Yesterday's launch is attributable to prior failures, but the global consequences now unfolding are Mr. Obama's responsibility. In fact, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is expected to announce today deep cuts in the U.S. missile defense program, an extraordinarily ill-advised step.
The initial draft Security Council resolution responding to yesterday's missile launch, written by Japan and the U.S., is weak. It essentially only reaffirms Resolutions 1695 and 1718, and minimally tightens existing enforcement mechanisms. Moreover, China and Russia made it plain before the launch they had no interest in stricter sanctions -- even arguing with a straight face that Pyongyang was only interested in peaceful satellite communications.
What the Security Council will ultimately produce is of course uncertain -- but resolutions almost never get tougher as the drafting and negotiations proceed. Even worse than a weak resolution would be a "presidential statement," a toothless gesture of the Council's opinion. Either way, North Korea has again defied the Security Council, gotten away with its launch with the support of Russia and China, and now will likely confront only pleas by Mr. Obama and others to return to the six-party talks.
Those talks are exactly where North Korea wants to be. From them ever greater material and political benefits will flow to Pyongyang, in exchange for ever more hollow promises to dismantle its nuclear program.
So far, therefore, the missile launch is an unambiguous win for North Korea. (Although not orbiting a satellite, all three rocket stages apparently fired, achieving Pyongyang's longest missile flight yet.) But the negative repercussions will extend far beyond Northeast Asia.
Iran has carefully scrutinized the Obama administration's every action, and Tehran's only conclusion can be: It is past time to torque up the pressure on this new crowd in Washington. Not only is Iran's back now covered by its friends Russia, China and others on the U.N. Security Council, but it sees an American president so ready to bend his knee for public favor in Europe that the mullahs' wish list for U.S. concessions will grow by the minute.
Israel must also be carefully considering how the U.S. watched North Korea rip through "the international community." The most important lesson the new government headed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu should draw is: Look out for No. 1. If Israel isn't prepared to protect itself, including using military force, against Iran's nuclear weapons program, it certainly shouldn't be holding its breath for Mr. Obama to do anything.
Russia and China must also be relishing this outcome. They will have faced down Mr. Obama in his first real crisis, having provided Security Council cover for a criminal regime, and emerged unscathed. They will conclude that achieving their large agendas with the new administration can't be too hard. That conclusion may be unfair to the new American president; but it will surely color how Moscow and Beijing structure their policies and their diplomacy until proven otherwise. That alone is bad news for Washington and its allies.
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What was your reaction when they set off nukes while bush was in office..did yo approve of bushs reactions
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Bush made the mistake of lumping in nKorea with Iran and eveybody else. I wasn't happy..but the nKoreans didn't rachet up the BS like they did this time. They wanted Obama's attention...he could have cut them off at the knee's.
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Yeah....the PACOM CDR said we'd knock it down....the Japs said they were gonna knock it down....then Sec Gates said we were't gonna do anything. Read between the lines...Barry cried to the UN and the miget laughed as he filled orders for his rockets.
you said obama called it off...
just admit you were talking out of your ass
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you said obama called it off...
just admit you were talking out of your ass
Dude if u can't figure out how things work, I can't explain it better then that. Obama told em not to launch.
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Dude if u can't figure out how things work, I can't explain it better then that. Obama told em not to launch.
right..obama told the japs to stand down...gotcha mr. intel
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Ok dude...
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right..obama told the japs to stand down...gotcha mr. intel
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HH6 was sitting in the War Room with Obama and secret service had to subdue him as he tried for the Red Phone and the Nuclear Armament codes.
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Ok ALF.....
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Ok dude...
lmao...all you can do is speculate.
Japan didnt use force so you assume obama got on the phone and made the call...
how about calling it like it is for once? nk wasnt a threat whatsoever...and the next time they actually have a real missile on the lauch pad...we'll actually do something about it. When nk tested a real fucking nuke...georgie boy put down his foot....and negotiated with em. I wonder if you were calling for heads to roll then also.
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HH6 was Flying as squadron leader of a group of YF-22`s just moments away from launching a hot Sidewinder at the North Korean Satellite when in the nick of time Barack Obama got on the radio and ordered him to stand down.
(http://www.456fis.org/MISC.-3/yf-22-01_302%5B1%5D.jpg)
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What is more amusing is that HH6 does not realize that Japan does not even have a military other than a Defense Force that operates only within their country.
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thats funny...because hh6 told me the japs have the tools to shoot down icbm's.
I'm sure they do...we just dont know about it
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thats funny...because hh6 told me the japs have the tools to shoot down icbm's.
I'm sure they do...we just dont know about it
They do have surface to air capability, but only within their borders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Self-Defense_Forces
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TA...I've trained with the Japs....their Navy can shoot down an ICBM and shooting a missile over their country qualifies....TA sticking to whatever it is u do.
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TA...I've trained with the Japs....their Navy can shoot down an ICBM and shooting a missile over their country qualifies....TA sticking to whatever it is u do.
Isn`t that what I said....Only within their borders.
Stick to what YOU do, because you fail at reading comprehension. :)
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