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Title: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: Deicide on April 05, 2009, 05:43:20 AM
such as spinach, broccoli, etc...

What is the evidence for this? What other foods qualify and how can one tell if a food qualifies...?

Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: Montague on April 05, 2009, 07:16:12 AM
I’ve read a little bit about the idea.
Supposedly, with certain foods – like broccoli – if you eat a bowl of broccoli your body will burn more calories digesting it than are in it.

I’m also a bit confused.
Does that mean if you eat nothing but broccoli, eventually you’ll become invisible?


Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: Bobby on April 05, 2009, 09:06:12 AM
I’ve read a little bit about the idea.
Supposedly, with certain foods – like broccoli – if you eat a bowl of broccoli your body will burn more calories digesting it than are in it.

I’m also a bit confused.
Does that mean if you eat nothing but broccoli, eventually you’ll become invisible?




yes, but keep quiet about it
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: Deicide on April 05, 2009, 09:25:09 AM
I’ve read a little bit about the idea.
Supposedly, with certain foods – like broccoli – if you eat a bowl of broccoli your body will burn more calories digesting it than are in it.

I’m also a bit confused.
Does that mean if you eat nothing but broccoli, eventually you’ll become invisible?




Is it just broccoli or other veggies as well?
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: tbombz on April 05, 2009, 11:07:17 AM
montague nailed it.


the process of digesting most vegetables takes up more energy than is actually contained inside the veggie.



but theres also more to it... lower insulin levels by way of intestional bacteria feeding on the fibers and sending short chain fatty acids to the liver, slower digestion of other carb sources by tying them up with fibers, better digestion of proteins by cleaning and keeping moving of the digestive tract, antioxidants vitamins minerals phytonutrients....
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: Deicide on April 05, 2009, 02:25:25 PM
montague nailed it.


the process of digesting most vegetables takes up more energy than is actually contained inside the veggie.



but theres also more to it... lower insulin levels by way of intestional bacteria feeding on the fibers and sending short chain fatty acids to the liver, slower digestion of other carb sources by tying them up with fibers, better digestion of proteins by cleaning and keeping moving of the digestive tract, antioxidants vitamins minerals phytonutrients....

In other words...each lots of spinach and broccoli...
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: Montague on April 05, 2009, 07:48:27 PM
montague nailed it.


the process of digesting most vegetables takes up more energy than is actually contained inside the veggie.



but theres also more to it... lower insulin levels by way of intestional bacteria feeding on the fibers and sending short chain fatty acids to the liver, slower digestion of other carb sources by tying them up with fibers, better digestion of proteins by cleaning and keeping moving of the digestive tract, antioxidants vitamins minerals phytonutrients....

I knew it!

We do become invisible.

Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: loco on April 06, 2009, 11:01:20 AM
I’ve read a little bit about the idea.
Supposedly, with certain foods – like broccoli – if you eat a bowl of broccoli your body will burn more calories digesting it than are in it.

I’m also a bit confused.
Does that mean if you eat nothing but broccoli, eventually you’ll become invisible?

Yes, you would eventually become "invisible."  :)

if you eat nothing but broccoli, you would lose too much wait and eventually starve to death.  Your stomach cannot hold enough broccoli to meet your daily calorie needs.  You'd get way too full, probably make yourself sick, before you eat enough calories from broccoli alone. 

And although broccoli does have calcium, vitamin C and other important nutrients, it lacks many other important nutrients.

So eat some pizza and ice cream with your broccoli.   :)
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: DK II on April 06, 2009, 01:09:28 PM
How about ice cold water?

Isn't that supposed to burn calories as well because the body needs to warm up again?
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: tbombz on April 06, 2009, 07:43:50 PM
How about ice cold water?

Isn't that supposed to burn calories as well because the body needs to warm up again?
yup, just a little tiny bit of calories though.
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: Montague on April 06, 2009, 07:45:48 PM
^^Concur.
I remember reading that some studies concluded it does, but only to a nominal degree.
That article was from several years ago.
There may be more recent data.

I wouldn’t rely on ice water alone as a fat loss catalyst, but would certainly consider including it as part of a diet regimen.
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: DK II on April 07, 2009, 02:53:31 AM
^^Concur.
I remember reading that some studies concluded it does, but only to a nominal degree.
That article was from several years ago.
There may be more recent data.

I wouldn’t rely on ice water alone as a fat loss catalyst, but would certainly consider including it as part of a diet regimen.


Well the problem in general is that "calorie-negative" food burns only a small bit of calories, and as you need protein and fat at least fo muscle development and hormone levels, the 50 calories eating spinach burns are not very interesting, you can have that by running 5 minutes.
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: tbombz on April 07, 2009, 08:59:25 AM
Well the problem in general is that "calorie-negative" food burns only a small bit of calories, and as you need protein and fat at least fo muscle development and hormone levels, the 50 calories eating spinach burns are not very interesting, you can have that by running 5 minutes.
well theres also numerous other benefits to eating the negative calorie vegetables... benefits impossible to get through exercise

Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: DK II on April 07, 2009, 09:17:54 AM
well theres also numerous other benefits to eating the negative calorie vegetables... benefits impossible to get through exercise



Sure, it's called 'healthy diet'.
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: tbombz on April 07, 2009, 09:30:01 AM
Sure, it's called 'healthy diet'.
not to nit-pick, however i dont mean health benefits, btu benefits as far as body composition.
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: DK II on April 07, 2009, 09:33:08 AM
not to nit-pick, however i dont mean health benefits, btu benefits as far as body composition.

Then why don't you just write it a little more in detail, or do i have to pay 20 bucks to look into your crystal ball?  ::) ::)

Not to nit-pick, but "i know something great, and i won't tell it until you beg"...  :P :P
Title: Re: More in depth explanation of socalled 'negative calorie foods'....?
Post by: tbombz on April 07, 2009, 09:52:58 AM
Then why don't you just write it a little more in detail, or do i have to pay 20 bucks to look into your crystal ball?  ::) ::)

Not to nit-pick, but "i know something great, and i won't tell it until you beg"...  :P :P
LOL   that wasnt my tone when writing that


well for one, the effect of vegetables on PH levels.

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1401/182/

 :)