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Title: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 08, 2009, 04:59:52 AM
Holy shit... Amazing report, I can't believe what was destroyed.  Schools, homes, hospitals, farms, chicken coops, factories, everything--they didn't spare a single fucking thing, the place is totally obliterated.


Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 08, 2009, 05:18:48 AM
"Israel launched a brutal attack..."

Yeah? But listen bitch, if you're unbiased, why not mention WHY? ::)
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 08, 2009, 05:33:34 AM
"Israel launched a brutal attack..."

Yeah? But listen bitch, if you're unbiased, why not mention WHY? ::)
dude, chill the fuck out.  There's no shortage here in America of Israel's side of the story.  We get it daily, plenty of it.  What the hell could be the problem with people having both sides.  This was a pretty decent report on DN.  We've all heard the Israeli side day in and day out, no need to cry over it missing in this report.  Of course there is bias, on both sides, duh...
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 08, 2009, 05:36:07 AM
dude, chill the fuck out.  There's no shortage here in America of Israel's side of the story.  We get it daily, plenty of it.  What the hell could be the problem with people having both sides.  This was a pretty decent report on DN.  We've all heard the Israeli side day in and day out, no need to cry over it missing in this report.  Of course there is bias, on both sides, duh...

Seriously who are you kidding? Here in the UK and Europe we only heard the Palestinian side of the story...
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 08, 2009, 06:02:32 AM
Seriously who are you kidding? Here in the UK and Europe we only heard the Palestinian side of the story...
::) Are you saying I'm kidding that we get the full Israeli side of things here in America, constantly?  Do you have any idea how absolutely retarded that sounds?  Are you saying I'm full of shit on that fact? 
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 08, 2009, 06:31:24 AM
::) Are you saying I'm kidding that we get the full Israeli side of things here in America, constantly?  Do you have any idea how absolutely retarded that sounds?  Are you saying I'm full of shit on that fact? 

Well either you're kidding or you're lying? I prefer not to insult your character by calling you a liar.

Unless of course you limit yourself to a single source your assertion is false.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 08, 2009, 06:46:12 AM
Well either you're kidding or you're lying? I prefer not to insult your character by calling you a liar.

Unless of course you limit yourself to a single source your assertion is false.
If you actually think we don't get the Israeli side of things here in America, your knowledge of this country is so far out of touch you have no business commenting.  At least have a basic background on what you're saying before you level obviously stupid absurdities.  I watch the news constantly here, many different sources.  On all of the major networks it's easy to hear the Israeli perspective--EASY!!!  Out of all of the major news outlets, the single only place you typically see a report like this is on democracy now and I wouldn't exactly call that a major source even though it is popular.  You clearly are full of shit on this one.  Just funny as fuck you would think the Israeli angle doesn't dominate in the media here.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: drkaje on April 08, 2009, 06:48:13 AM
::) Are you saying I'm kidding that we get the full Israeli side of things here in America, constantly?  Do you have any idea how absolutely retarded that sounds?  Are you saying I'm full of shit on that fact? 

Our foreign policy supports what NS says, LOL!
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 08, 2009, 06:50:39 AM
If you actually think we don't get the Israeli side of things here in America, your knowledge of this country is so far out of touch you have no business commenting.  At least have a basic background on what you're saying before you level obviously stupid absurdities.  I watch the news constantly here, many different sources.  On all of the major networks it's easy to hear the Israeli perspective--EASY!!!  Out of all of the major news outlets, the single only place you typically see a report like this is on democracy now and I wouldn't exactly call that a major source even though it is popular.  You clearly are full of shit on this one.  Just funny as fuck you would think the Israeli angle doesn't dominate in the media here.

So are you going to display some evidence? Like for example reports on the latest conflict from various news sources?
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 08, 2009, 06:51:26 AM
Our foreign policy supports what NS says, LOL!
hahahahahaha... ;D  yea, he clearly pulled that shit out of the compost pile :D  I couldn't believe he actually said that...  My instant reaction: ":o"
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: the_steevo_uk on April 08, 2009, 06:51:48 AM
If you actually think we don't get the Israeli side of things here in America, your knowledge of this country is so far out of touch you have no business commenting.  At least have a basic background on what you're saying before you level obviously stupid absurdities.  I watch the news constantly here, many different sources.  On all of the major networks it's easy to hear the Israeli perspective--EASY!!!  Out of all of the major news outlets, the single only place you typically see a report like this is on democracy now and I wouldn't exactly call that a major source even though it is popular.  You clearly are full of shit on this one.  Just funny as fuck you would think the Israeli angle doesn't dominate in the media here.

having worked on media issues to do with this conflict and living in Jerusalem, it can best be summed up like this

US: biased toward Israel
Europe: Biased towards Pals
Israel: Apart from Haaretz, one sided propaganda
Arab world: All propaganda

just the way it is, no matter what you do you get slammed...many good people have given up trying over here because being even handed makes too many people angry who wont admit theres another side to the conflict...its a load of bullshit but there you go!!
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: headhuntersix on April 08, 2009, 06:52:46 AM
There are only 2 types of war...peace or total war. Clauswitz
If the rags can stop blowing up pizza joints and buses full of kids...this would not be neccesary.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: drkaje on April 08, 2009, 06:54:22 AM
A part of me feels like Israel killing them all would be more humane.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: the_steevo_uk on April 08, 2009, 06:56:26 AM
There are only 2 types of war...peace or total war. Clauswitz
If the rags can stop blowing up pizza joints and buses full of kids...this would not be neccesary.

If only it were that simple headhunter...theres alot of stuff happening on both sides...most of it you dont see on your tv screen im afraid...it aint all one way or the other, both sides have a considerable amount of blood (most of it innocent) on their hands. Like i said dont get into this idea that its all because of one side, believe me its not.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: headhuntersix on April 08, 2009, 07:08:32 AM
Welcome to the board. I'm a pro Israel guy....I really can't stand the douchebags who defend the Palestinians. They have pushed moderate jews into becoming right wing zealots. The jews will never give up the settlements nor give em Jerusalem. They have had opportunity after opportunity for peace. Their leadership has sold them out at every turn. Hamas wants power, they don't want peace. Rubble doesn't make trouble.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 08, 2009, 07:28:02 AM
So are you going to display some evidence? Like for example reports on the latest conflict from various news sources?
you want evidence for what is glaringly obvious to everyone who lives in America and watches the news ::)  Included a few international sources too.





lebanon/Israel






















Want more?
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 08, 2009, 07:48:30 AM
Not really, I don't have time to watch all them, but if they are a true representation then I stand corrected. I do however remember a majority of reports I read from around the time of things heating up there that US media was leaning towards Palestine.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: drkaje on April 08, 2009, 08:03:40 AM
Do you feel that it's humane when Hamas steals aid meant for the Gazan populace, of which there are multiple documented instances?

Israel killing them all means no refugees or aid. The wasting of US taxpayer dollars won't stop until one side of the equation is dead and there's no political downside to killing the Palestinians. If Israel could be trusted to not steal land from Lebanon, Jordan or Egypt no one could care but they have never had enough land and would end up taking more to establish 'safety zones' or building settlements in other countries after reinterpreting a covenant.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 08, 2009, 08:14:26 AM
Israel killing them all means no refugees or aid. The wasting of US taxpayer dollars won't stop until one side of the equation is dead and there's no political downside to killing the Palestinians. If Israel could be trusted to not steal land from Lebanon, Jordan or Egypt no one could care but they have never had enough land and would end up taking more to establish 'safety zones' or building settlements in other countries after reinterpreting a covenant.

You think Israel is less trustworthy than Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt?
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 08, 2009, 08:28:40 AM
Not really, I don't have time to watch all them, but if they are a true representation then I stand corrected. I do however remember a majority of reports I read from around the time of things heating up there that US media was leaning towards Palestine.
not leaning toward the palestinian cause per say.  There were reports critical of tactics and targets.  Things like banned weapons used and civilian targets etc.  They weren't really condeming Israeli action, but critical of the execution of it.  Any, the point being, strong pro israeli opinion in the American media is not hard to find.  It would be quite hard to miss even if you tried.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 08, 2009, 08:36:40 AM
also, in this latest war, some of those things that were being nailed in the media, were revelations made by Israelis and it was controvertial there.  Members of the Israeli military even went public with those issues.  So that it might be covered in the media here doesn't make the network or reporter pro palestinian per say.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: headhuntersix on April 08, 2009, 08:38:40 AM
The IDF made an effort to get ahead of the Hamas PR machine and did an ok job. They didn't want lies spread. We are expecting a "lessons learned" on this in another month or so. I will share what I can.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 08, 2009, 08:48:39 AM
The IDF made an effort to get ahead of the Hamas PR machine and did an ok job. They didn't want lies spread. We are expecting a "lessons learned" on this in another month or so. I will share what I can.
LOL, no comment...
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: drkaje on April 08, 2009, 10:13:27 AM
You think Israel is less trustworthy than Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt?

Yes.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: andreisdaman on April 08, 2009, 10:37:38 AM
I don't know about you guys but the whole Arab-Israeli conflict thing is really getting very bothersome and annoying.....they just keep killing each other and they just won't try to make peace..it's a shame that the United States has to always try to broker a peace between these guys when they should be doing it themselves...I know if I were the president I wouldn't waste my time and prestige on this nonsense....nothing is EVER going to come out of it....

These guys are fighting over the Bible and the Koran and they will never make peace...EVER
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: George Whorewell on April 08, 2009, 08:55:37 PM
Im so fucking sick and tired of hearing about this bullshit. Take the leash off of Israel and watch how fast the terrorists fall in line.

As I have posted a million times, the Palestnians get used and abused by their leadership, are despised by other muslims and are nothing but propaganda tools for terrorist groups. Unfortunetly, for them they democratically elected a terrorist organization. Tit for tat--***

Their situation sucks, but until Israel decides to leave or they decide to wise up, this conflict will never end.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 09, 2009, 02:28:36 AM
Yes.

Comical.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: drkaje on April 09, 2009, 07:42:02 AM
Comical.

Wasn't a joke.

I'd support (or at the very least understand) a final solution the Palestinian problem if any 'safety zones', fences or walls were inside their own current borders. Unfortunately, at some point they would end up building settlements outside of Israel and the US would still support this.

You can't negotiate with people who feel the land is deeded to them by God.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Nordic Superman on April 09, 2009, 08:34:09 AM
Wasn't a joke.

I'd support (or at the very least understand) a final solution the Palestinian problem if any 'safety zones', fences or walls were inside their own current borders. Unfortunately, at some point they would end up building settlements outside of Israel and the US would still support this.

You can't negotiate with people who feel the land is deeded to them by God.

It doesn't have to be a joke to be comical.

You don't think islamist governments surrounding Israel think it's deeded to them by God?

So again, based on tangible evidence, how are Israel less trustworthy than the others mentioned? Simple because they have some power to fulfill some of their desires?
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: the_steevo_uk on April 09, 2009, 09:38:28 AM
It doesn't have to be a joke to be comical.

You don't think islamist governments surrounding Israel think it's deeded to them by God?

So again, based on tangible evidence, how are Israel less trustworthy than the others mentioned? Simple because they have some power to fulfill some of their desires?

your right Israel is not less trustworthy, there are alot of accountable institutions in Israel that do good work...but im afraid its not that much better than the countries that surround it...once you get out of the universities and a few good NGO's there its just the same...one sided bullshit, rhetoric instead of facts...its headsplittingly annoying trying to get the truth from them sometimes
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: andreisdaman on April 09, 2009, 02:34:49 PM
Im so fucking sick and tired of hearing about this bullshit. Take the leash off of Israel and watch how fast the terrorists fall in line.

As I have posted a million times, the Palestnians get used and abused by their leadership, are despised by other muslims and are nothing but propaganda tools for terrorist groups. Unfortunetly, for them they democratically elected a terrorist organization. Tit for tat--***

Their situation sucks, but until Israel decides to leave or they decide to wise up, this conflict will never end.




TOTALLY AGREE....people just won't wise up on this issue
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: IFBBwannaB on April 09, 2009, 11:40:35 PM
None of those buildings were bombed if Hamas didn't hide and shot on soldiers from inside them.

I see nothing wrong in doing so, when you're under fire you don't care what is the sign on the building that shoots on you  ::)
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Slapper on April 10, 2009, 04:58:49 AM
Not really, I don't have time to watch all them, but if they are a true representation then I stand corrected. I do however remember a majority of reports I read from around the time of things heating up there that US media was leaning towards Palestine.

Post those reports!!

American media are pro-Israel to the core.

Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: George Whorewell on April 10, 2009, 08:11:25 AM
Slapper take the granola dildo out of your ass and go make some more threads about how China would defeat the US in a war because their soldier know "Kung Fu" ::)
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: andreisdaman on April 10, 2009, 08:44:46 AM
Slapper take the granola dildo out of your ass and go make some more threads about how China would defeat the US in a war because their soldier know "Kung Fu" ::)




The premise of that thread is one of the worst in GetBig history....
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 10, 2009, 09:22:12 AM
Im so fucking sick and tired of hearing about this bullshit. Take the leash off of Israel and watch how fast the terrorists fall in line.

As I have posted a million times, the Palestnians get used and abused by their leadership, are despised by other muslims and are nothing but propaganda tools for terrorist groups. Unfortunetly, for them they democratically elected a terrorist organization. Tit for tat--***

Their situation sucks, but until Israel decides to leave or they decide to wise up, this conflict will never end.
Leash?  Israel?  BWHAHAhahahahaha  where?  What is this leash you speak of?
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 10, 2009, 09:26:13 AM
None of those buildings were bombed if Hamas didn't hide and shot on soldiers from inside them.

I see nothing wrong in doing so, when you're under fire you don't care what is the sign on the building that shoots on you  ::)
so they were hiding bombs in every single structure there then?  Looks like they pretty much decimated,...uh... everything in site.  In chicken coops?  I guess the little chickies were strapped with suicide bombs :D
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: IFBBwannaB on April 10, 2009, 12:32:01 PM
so they were hiding bombs in every single structure there then?  Looks like they pretty much decimated,...uh... everything in site.  In chicken coops?  I guess the little chickies were strapped with suicide bombs :D

They planted bombs on animals in Gaza zoo so who knows what they do.

You can also see a video on youtube of a Hamas fighter that ran out of ammo and grab a child off the street (WTF that child didn't run for cover when there is a shooting in the area might tell you why some innocent gets killed) and grab him to cross the street using him as a human shield, you can see his mother screaming while it happens.

In conclusion, you're a moron who want to help the same people who want to kill him so go fuck yourself and your two idols, Chavez and Obama.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 10, 2009, 01:50:03 PM
They planted bombs on animals in Gaza zoo so who knows what they do.

You can also see a video on youtube of a Hamas fighter that ran out of ammo and grab a child off the street (WTF that child didn't run for cover when there is a shooting in the area might tell you why some innocent gets killed) and grab him to cross the street using him as a human shield, you can see his mother screaming while it happens.

In conclusion, you're a moron who want to help the same people who want to kill him so go fuck yourself and your two idols, Chavez and Obama.
you sure are whiney bastard.  all this over, god forbid, we hear from both perspectives. ::) gotta get total control of all the information flow right ;)

enjoy some perspective.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: James on April 10, 2009, 03:03:30 PM
Quote
you sure are whiney bastard.  all this over, god forbid, we hear from both perspectives. Roll Eyes gotta get total control of all the information flow right Wink

enjoy some perspective.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

You really are a moron
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: IFBBwannaB on April 10, 2009, 03:23:20 PM
You really are a moron

He most certainly is.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 10, 2009, 05:13:03 PM
You really are a moron
give up the gimmick.  Probably BF.  You're clearly someone who has been around the board for a while.  Game is up, it's getting lame.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Fury on April 10, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
give up the gimmick.  Probably BF.  You're clearly someone who has been around the board for a while.  Game is up, it's getting lame.

He sounds nothing like me. If everyone who thought you were a moron was a gimmick of mine, then most of this forum would be an extension of me.  ::)

However, yours and Samson's posting styles are almost identical. Both black men angry at the US for whatever reason. It's disgusting that you're cowardice knows no bounds. Post on one account, puss.



And for what it's worth, I haven't been able to get a gimmick registered since "Dan18's Forehead" regardless of what ip I use.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Hugo Chavez on April 10, 2009, 06:04:41 PM
He sounds nothing like me. If everyone who thought you were a moron was a gimmick of mine, then most of this forum would be an extension of me.  ::)

However, yours and Samson's posting styles are almost identical. Both black men angry at the US for whatever reason. It's disgusting that you're cowardice knows no bounds. Post on one account, puss.



And for what it's worth, I haven't been able to get a gimmick registered since "Dan18's Forehead" regardless of what ip I use.
now I know you're James...  Our posting styles are not the same.  He posted in all caps all the time from the start.  I never, ever did that.  nice try jackass.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Slapper on April 10, 2009, 06:08:55 PM
Slapper take the granola dildo out of your ass and go make some more threads about how China would defeat the US in a war because their soldier know "Kung Fu" ::)

It's not granola... It's cookies-n-cream.

Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: Fury on April 10, 2009, 06:09:48 PM
now I know you're James...  Our posting styles are not the same.  He posted in all caps all the time from the start.  I never, ever did that.  nice try jackass.

Hahaha, do you honestly feel the need to prove how stupid you are right now? You do enough with your normal posts. No need to go above and beyond.

Trying to say that typing in caps doesn't make him your gimmick is laughable. Dude, have you seen the Y? We deal with 4-5 new gimmicks a week. We've seen it all. Changing your posting style is the #1 way to play it off. Your ideologies, which are so similar it's hilarious, are a little harder to change. You don't have the intelligence level to change them enough to play it off. It's ok Samson.


You should stop trolling.   ;)
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: George Whorewell on April 10, 2009, 06:35:35 PM



The premise of that thread is one of the worst in GetBig history....


Agreed. But unfortunately, I didn't make that up. That fucking reject actually posted that in another thread.
Title: Re: Land of Ruins: A Special Report on Gaza: Democracy Now 4/6/09
Post by: andreisdaman on April 11, 2009, 04:10:59 PM

Agreed. But unfortunately, I didn't make that up. That fucking reject actually posted that in another thread.




I know you didn't make it up....I saw that thread and I was on that thread as well telling him that he was crazy to imagine that the chinese army could defeat America with Kung-Fu