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Title: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2009, 11:55:33 AM
Outrageous.  Someone tell him he's not on the campaign trail anymore. 

http://bartonbulletin.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/obama-criticizes-us-while-on-foreign-soil/
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dan-O on April 08, 2009, 11:58:29 AM
wtf
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 08, 2009, 12:01:33 PM
Paging Obamapologists.....  all hands on deck.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: body88 on April 08, 2009, 12:02:43 PM
I said this in another thread.....Our enemies are licking their chops.  Obama has showed nothing but weakness abroad. 
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 12:07:58 PM
I said this in another thread.....Our enemies are licking their chops.  Obama has showed nothing but weakness abroad. 

Completely embarassing. 
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: James on April 08, 2009, 12:09:21 PM
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2009, 12:11:27 PM


Thanks.  Couldn't figure out how to post the clip from the link. 
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 12:12:21 PM
What a fool. 

Anyone bashing Palin needs to STFU considering these speeches he reads off his teleprompter.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dan-O on April 08, 2009, 12:14:35 PM
How idiotic.  Just plain stupid.  America didn't get to where it is by falling in step with the rest of the world--and falling in step would put us on the fast(er) track on the road to ruin, guaranteed.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 12:17:35 PM
How idiotic.  Just plain stupid.  America didn't get to where it is by falling in step with the rest of the world--and falling in step would put us on the fast(er) track on the road to ruin, guaranteed.

I am going to get shirts made up

"F.U.B.O."

Inside the 0 will have his little red white and blue rainbow theme.  .
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 08, 2009, 12:28:31 PM
RISE OF THE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE NOW COMES INTO PLACE...

What you guys don't seem to realize it Europe is about to take the stage as the NEW WORLD POWER. america will be humbled and all but leveled soon. B.O. is essentially telling americans it is over for you...Europe will be the worlds leader now. All of you better get a grip on this fact,,,because it is coming into being whether you like it or not. What started with the LOYALIST is now being completed by the capitalist...meaning all of the wealth has now been transfered over to Europe, america is being DISARMED, soon the police and military will be done away with and replaced by UN troops in america and at that point it will be cver for you all...

I only speak the truth
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dan-O on April 08, 2009, 12:46:42 PM
RISE OF THE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE NOW COMES INTO PLACE...

What you guys don't seem to realize it Europe is about to take the stage as the NEW WORLD POWER. america will be humbled and all but leveled soon. B.O. is essentially telling americans it is over for you...Europe will be the worlds leader now. All of you better get a grip on this fact,,,because it is coming into being whether you like it or not. What started with the LOYALIST is now being completed by the capitalist...meaning all of the wealth has now been transfered over to Europe, america is being DISARMED, soon the police and military will be done away with and replaced by UN troops in america and at that point it will be cver for you all...

I only speak the truth

...and then SAMSON123 woke up from his wet dream. 8)
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 12:51:59 PM
...and then SAMSON123 woke up from his wet dream. 8)

Where does this dude live?
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dan-O on April 08, 2009, 12:55:53 PM
Where does this dude live?

He doesn't want to say--I guess he's ashamed of his country but he still hates the US.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 12:59:25 PM
He doesn't want to say--I guess he's ashamed of his country but he still hates the US.

At this point, I am very worried for the USA. 

Obama is clearly handing over the reign of power and influence to every other nation for pennies on the dollar out of misplaced sense of guilt.

Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dan-O on April 08, 2009, 01:05:06 PM
At this point, I am very worried for the USA. 

Obama is clearly handing over the reign of power and influence to every other nation for pennies on the dollar out of misplaced sense of guilt.



Well how can you not worry when you hear stuff like that coming out of our President's mouth??  I'd be lying if I said it didn't worry me too.  Is he talking out of his ass in the interest of political expediency or is he being 100% sincere?  Sometimes with B.O. you can't tell for sure.  Part of me wants to think he's just saying what he thinks Europeans want to hear, but another part of me worries that he really means it.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 01:08:37 PM
Outrageous.  Someone tell him he's not on the campaign trail anymore. 

http://bartonbulletin.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/obama-criticizes-us-while-on-foreign-soil/
Your outrage barometer is skewed.

A little justifiable criticism ain't an outrage.  Considering the crimes of his predecessor, I think Obama was lenient.

This! This is an outrage: FBI email says Bush signed exec order authorizing torture
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3187.shtml



Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2009, 01:12:28 PM
Your outrage barometer is skewed.

A little justifiable criticism ain't an outrage.  Considering the crimes of his predecessor, I think Obama was lenient.

This! This is an outrage: FBI email says Bush signed exec order authorizing torture
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3187.shtml





Not at all.  Another rookie mistake.  Do not criticize your country on foreign soil when you hold a leadership position.  That’s like Leadership 101.

He's pandering.  Still campaigning.   
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 01:13:39 PM
Your outrage barometer is skewed.

A little justifiable criticism ain't an outrage.  Considering the crimes of his predecessor, I think Obama was lenient.

This! This is an outrage: FBI email says Bush signed exec order authorizing torture
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3187.shtml


Maybe you dont want to hear this, but most people dont think this is a big deal when you have people who are intent on killing us.  

Considering I live 9 miles from ground zero, I could care less if some dirt bag terrorist has to undergo far less than a marine boot camp recruit in order to get info.

We treat these people better than boot camp recruits and you clowns are screaming?????
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 01:15:45 PM
Lets do this another way:

Hey Decker and Hugo:

Name me one other leader who has come to our country and criticized their own country????
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 01:19:47 PM
Not at all.  Another rookie mistake.  Do not criticize your country on foreign soil when you hold a leadership position.  That’s like Leadership 101.

He's pandering.  Still campaigning.   

Is that rule from
(http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/bush_presidency_for_dummies.jpg)

Or are you just making this stuff up as it's convenient?
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 01:23:55 PM
Maybe you dont want to hear this, but most people dont think this is a big deal when you have people who are intent on killing us.  

Considering I live 9 miles from ground zero, I could care less if some dirt bag terrorist has to undergo far less than a marine boot camp recruit in order to get info.

We treat these people better than boot camp recruits and you clowns are screaming?????
I thought you said you lived 3 miles from ground zero?

Maybe I should torture you to get at the truth?

What you say, you haven't threatened me or harmed me?

Don't worry, I'll get to the truth.

A friendly car battery hookup to your nuts ought to do the trick a'la:
(http://peacework.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/Abu%20Ghraib%20Torture-715244.jpg)

Trial?  You don't need a trial.  You've been accused.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 01:24:49 PM
Lets do this another way:

Hey Decker and Hugo:

Name me one other leader who has come to our country and criticized their own country????
I know Reagan criticized the US in a speech he made in Japan.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: blacken700 on April 08, 2009, 01:30:01 PM
There is no way that all you morons are that dumb,that is half of what he said i wish you would stop getting your news from Fox because your showing your stupidity. HERE'S THE UNCUT TAPE

Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 01:32:33 PM
9 Miles in the Bronx fool.

BTW - boot camp recruits are treated worse than these people. 

Are soldiers "tortured" in boot camp????
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 01:33:55 PM
I know Reagan criticized the US in a speech he made in Japan.

That was not the question.   Name one other foriegn leader who has come over here and blamed their own country for things.

Just one.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 01:36:21 PM
That was not the question.   Name one other foriegn leader who has come over here and blamed their own country for things.

Just one.
I don't care what your question was.  Try googling an answer.

I just wanted to point out your hypocrisy in criticizing Obama for something Reagan himself did.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2009, 01:37:55 PM
Is that rule from
(http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/bush_presidency_for_dummies.jpg)

Or are you just making this stuff up as it's convenient?

The rule is from here:

(http://www.audioeditions.com/audio-book-images/Common-Sense-E3X233L.jpg)

It's the same rule that says don't undermine your cabinet members to the media.  You won't find that one in a book either.  This is a no brainer. 
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
9 Miles in the Bronx fool.

BTW - boot camp recruits are treated worse than these people. 

Are soldiers "tortured" in boot camp????
What's with the anger?
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 01:39:39 PM
I don't care what your question was.  Try googling an answer.

I just wanted to point out your hypocrisy in criticizing Obama for something Reagan himself did.

Show me that reagan said the same thing in Japan before you make such accusations.

Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Emmortal on April 08, 2009, 01:41:20 PM
Fucking hilarious thread.  I love the right wing zealots trying to find anything unacceptable about Obama and making him out to be the anti christ.  So now telling the TRUTH is a horrible thing?  Obama tells it like it is, something the previous presidency never did once and everyone complained about that, and now you fools are criticizing Obama for speaking the truth?

Epic hypocrites.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 01:43:03 PM
Fucking hilarious thread.  I love the right wing zealots trying to find anything unacceptable about Obama and making him out to be the anti christ.  So now telling the TRUTH is a horrible thing?  Obama tells it like it is, something the previous presidency never did once and everyone complained about that, and now you fools are criticizing Obama for speaking the truth?

Epic hypocrites.

And what truth is that?
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 01:45:02 PM
The rule is from here:

(http://www.audioeditions.com/audio-book-images/Common-Sense-E3X233L.jpg)

It's the same rule that says don't undermine your cabinet members to the media.  You won't find that one in a book either.  This is a no brainer. 

ahhh the last bastion of the right winger.  Common Sense.  It's so common that only rightwingers seem to have it.

Everyone else in the universe can see the utility of Obama's contrition for the crimes against humanity and general erosion of the USA's dignity and worldwide standing caused by Bush.

But that doesn't fit your common sense, right?
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 01:47:33 PM
Show me that reagan said the same thing in Japan before you make such accusations.


Former President Ronald Reagan told Japanese audiences today that he welcomed Japanese investment in the United States and that Sony's recent takeover of a big motion picture studio might even ''bring back decency and good taste'' to American movies.

''I'm not too proud of Hollywood these days, with the immorality that is shown in pictures and the vulgarity.''

''I just have a feeling that maybe Hollywood needs some outsiders to bring back decency and good taste to some of the pictures that are being made,'' he added.


Oh that's right, Hollywood is liberal and not part of america.  Reagan still stands tall.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 01:48:29 PM
ahhh the last bastion of the right winger.  Common Sense.  It's so common that only rightwingers seem to have it.

Everyone else in the universe can see the utility of Obama's contrition for the crimes against humanity and general erosion of the USA's dignity and worldwide standing.

But that doesn't fit your common sense, right?

So now Decker is more enlightend than Thomas Payne.  

I'll bet if we were back in 1776 you would be the first and loudest one arguing why we should not declare indepenedence from the King.  
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 01:51:03 PM
So now Decker is more enlightend than Thomas Payne.  

I'll bet if we were back in 1776 you would be the first and loudest one arguing why we should not declare indepenedence from the King.  
You got me there.

I yield to you.  I tried to sneak past my brazen claim that Payne couldn't carry my jock, but you caught me.

If I were alive in 1776 I would likely be a traitor of the colonies to the Crown.

How can I deny that?
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Emmortal on April 08, 2009, 01:51:29 PM
And what truth is that?

I see you failed to even listen to the speech. 

Quote from the speech: "Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.”

America alienated itself from the world through Bush's actions and decision making.  Thanks to him most of the world hates Americans now where as previously a lot of them looked up to us.  America used to have this very interesting appeal to foreigners, where they saw us as the place where anything can happen, anyone can succeed if you work hard enough and put your mind to something, the land of opportunity.  Now, thanks to Bush, we're looked at as the worlds bafoons and idiots.

You can't argue that because it's the cold hard truth.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2009, 01:51:58 PM
ahhh the last bastion of the right winger.  Common Sense.  It's so common that only rightwingers seem to have it.

Everyone else in the universe can see the utility of Obama's contrition for the crimes against humanity and general erosion of the USA's dignity and worldwide standing.

But that doesn't fit your common sense, right?

Crimes against humanity?  lol. . . .   That's a good one.  

What fits into my definition of common sense is the leader of the greatest country in the history of the world should do nothing to undermine the country when he is standing on foreign soil.  It was a dumb thing to say, especially in Europe when you consider how much money, security, and lives we have invested in the region.  It isn't a "right wing" thing, although I know you only see the world in terms of liberals, conservatives, etc.  It's really just a "good judgment," "bad judgment" thing.  
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2009, 01:52:19 PM
You got me there.

I yield to you.  I tried to sneak past my brazen claim that Payne couldn't carry my jock, but you caught me.

If I were alive in 1776 I would likely be a traitor of the colonies to the Crown.

How can I deny that?

You owned yourself on the Reagan quote.   
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 02:02:17 PM
Crimes against humanity?  lol. . . .   That's a good one.  
Yeah the dozens of innocents tortured by Bush are laughing it up.

Do we have to go over the tens of thousands killed by Bush's call to invade Iraq?

I guess we do.

Quote
What fits into my definition of common sense is the leader of the greatest country in the history of the world should do nothing to undermine the country when he is standing on foreign soil.  It was a dumb thing to say, especially in Europe when you consider how much money, security, and lives we have invested in the region.  It isn't a "right wing" thing, although I know you only see the world in terms of liberals, conservatives, etc.  It's really just a "good judgment," "bad judgment" thing. 
Right.  So even if the statements of Obama are true, he should keep them to himself b/c the rest of the world is too stupid or scared to comment on the atrocities of his presidential predecessor?

It's "good judgment" to admit the errors of the Bush Administration.  It's "bad judgment" to pretend those things never happened.  At least I think so.

After all, we have to move forward.  Learn from our mistakes?  Why that's liberal nonsense.

That's almost as bad as admitting mistakes.

Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 08, 2009, 02:03:43 PM
You owned yourself on the Reagan quote.   
I sure did.  Just like I betrayed my country back in 1776.

If it weren't for BS arguments, you guys on the right would be silent.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: blacken700 on April 08, 2009, 02:20:24 PM
There is no way that all you morons are that dumb,that is half of what he said i wish you would stop getting your news from Fox because your showing your stupidity. HERE'S THE UNCUT TAPE

Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: headhuntersix on April 08, 2009, 02:26:19 PM
I see you failed to even listen to the speech. 

Quote from the speech: "Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.”

.  Thanks to him most of the world hates Americans now where as previously a lot of them looked up to us.  America used to have this very interesting appeal to foreigners, where they saw us as the place where anything can happen, anyone can succeed if you work hard enough and put your mind to something, the land of opportunity.  Now, thanks to Bush, we're looked at as the worlds bafoons and idiots.

You can't argue that because it's the cold hard truth.


Ur kidding right "America alienated itself from the world through Bush's actions and decision making"...yeah we alienated ourselves from appeasmnet and went with frog stomping. We got our balls back after Clinton got his licked. The world, especially our enemies were very worried about Bush, they know Obama is a wuss, and he proves it every time he opens his mouth.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: 240 is Back on April 08, 2009, 02:30:16 PM
guess what guys...

obama is kissing major ass because the countries of the world are removing themselves from the dollar.

He's criticizing the policies of the last 8 years, which even Bush has listed his regrets about.

I know we all like to say "America, fvck yeah!" and grab out penises and talk shit, but let's face it... if the world stops buying the dollar, we're in for some serious shit.  Obama is trying to regain some public opinion in these nations so their leaders will keep dealing with us.

Besides, most of you are acting like whiny little bitches.  Bush and the FBI admitted we used torture.  Which is against geneva. Which is unarguably wrong because the US signed a contract not to use it.  Obama admits it.  What is he mistaken about?
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: headhuntersix on April 08, 2009, 02:40:58 PM
Keep tongue lashing his balls 240.....Obama is a walking national Security Violation...when he takes ur guns...u won't do a thing will u.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: 240 is Back on April 08, 2009, 02:46:00 PM
Keep tongue lashing his balls 240.....Obama is a walking national Security Violation...when he takes ur guns...u won't do a thing will u.

and what would you do, HH6?
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dos Equis on April 08, 2009, 02:56:43 PM
Yeah the dozens of innocents tortured by Bush are laughing it up.

Do we have to go over the tens of thousands killed by Bush's call to invade Iraq?

I guess we do.
Right.  So even if the statements of Obama are true, he should keep them to himself b/c the rest of the world is too stupid or scared to comment on the atrocities of his presidential predecessor?

It's "good judgment" to admit the errors of the Bush Administration.  It's "bad judgment" to pretend those things never happened.  At least I think so.

After all, we have to move forward.  Learn from our mistakes?  Why that's liberal nonsense.

That's almost as bad as admitting mistakes.



 It is good judgment to be loyal to your country.  You don't throw prior administrations under the bus while on foreign soil.  He needs to stop kissing the rear end of these folks and act like he has a pair.

And he didn't admit "atrocities."  (You're not one to make overstatements are you?)  He said we were arrogant, dismissive, and derisive.  How do you get atrocities from those comments?  
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: headhuntersix on April 08, 2009, 02:58:46 PM
 I vote Republican 240..I vote Conservative...I support those who support the 2nd Amendment period. I vote for those who follow the Constitution..not legislate gay marriage despite a legal vote...I would never vote Dem. Funny the ATF will have no problem taking weapons but ICE is standing down from immigration raids.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: OzmO on April 08, 2009, 02:59:58 PM
Obama's over turning the 2nd amendment?   :D
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: The Showstoppa on April 08, 2009, 03:02:56 PM
(http://peacework.blogspot.com/uploaded_images/Abu%20Ghraib%20Torture-715244.jpg)




hahaha, great pic.......ROFL.....
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Decker on April 09, 2009, 10:13:54 AM
It is good judgment to be loyal to your country.  You don't throw prior administrations under the bus while on foreign soil.  He needs to stop kissing the rear end of these folks and act like he has a pair.

And he didn't admit "atrocities."  (You're not one to make overstatements are you?)  He said we were arrogant, dismissive, and derisive.  How do you get atrocities from those comments?  

Loyalty to one's country is not shown by sycophantic amnesia and lying. 

I said atrocities b/c Obama was not nearly as eloquent as I.  He seems reticent to come out and say what everybody already knows:  Bush was the worst mass murder of this decade.

He's not going to say that.  He's also not going to use the weak ass "mistakes were made" statement.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Dos Equis on April 09, 2009, 11:29:25 AM
Loyalty to one's country is not shown by sycophantic amnesia and lying. 

I said atrocities b/c Obama was not nearly as eloquent as I.  He seems reticent to come out and say what everybody already knows:  Bush was the worst mass murder of this decade.

He's not going to say that.  He's also not going to use the weak ass "mistakes were made" statement.

He's just going to keep sounding like a limp noodle.  Just what we need.  Someone needs to hack into his teleprompter and give him some more patriotic commentary. 

And Bush is a great American.   :)
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 12, 2011, 11:36:16 AM
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/587698/201110111829/Apologies-Not-Accepted.htm


Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: 240 is Back on October 12, 2011, 11:48:56 AM
every year, a handful of morons from both parties give a speech on foreign soil when they criticize the POTUS.

Hell, palin did it in china for a payday from the french!!!!!!!!!

So really, grow up.
Title: Re: Obama Criticizes U.S. On Foreign Soil
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 12, 2011, 11:53:52 AM
every year, a handful of morons from both parties give a speech on foreign soil when they criticize the POTUS.

Hell, palin did it in china for a payday from the french!!!!!!!!!

So really, grow up.

Really really really 240?  Are that fucked up that you will still defend obama in this? 

Most likely so - you dont give a fuck about anything that your master does.  He could shit in your mouth and you would ask for more.