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Liberals talking and lying to each other as usual. No wonder no one watches those shows.
By the way, you greedy liberals are nervous about this movement and it shows.
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Liberals talking and lying to each other as usual. No wonder no one watches those shows.
By the way, you greedy liberals are nervous about this movement and it shows.
Nobody is nervous because the turnout was very poor. Not only that, these demonstrations totally alienated all minorities as is evident by the racist signs and allusions surrounding Barack Obama and the plethora of minutemen "patriots" and all around nutjobs.
This is a failed strategy to win any kind of National Election. If this is the face of the Republican party and its ideals, then you will NEVER win anything in decades as long as this type of ambiance is allowed to exist. That is a fact.
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Right so pandering to illegal aliens, welfare bums who pay no taxes, and civil servants is going to get the GOP elected again?
Blacks always vote 90% for the Dems for very obvious reasons.
Illegal aliens are going to vote for whoever panders to them. Right now ZERO is pandering to these invaders.
By the way, the turn out was huge and you know it.
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Nobody is nervous because the turnout was very poor. Not only that, these demonstrations totally alienated all minorities as is evident by the racist signs and allusions surrounding Barack Obama and the plethora of minutemen "patriots" and all around nutjobs.
This is a failed strategy to win any kind of National Election. If this is the face of the Republican party and its ideals, then you will NEVER win anything in decades as long as this type of ambiance is allowed to exist. That is a fact.
That's fine really...the way I see it maybe in 2010 we will see the rise of a viable third party which is what I believe we need, since the GOP is in shambles and won't be ready to win anything in 2010 unless the left has a colossal breakdown of some sort.
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Right so pandering to illegal aliens, welfare bums who pay no taxes, and civil servants is going to get the GOP elected again?
Blacks always vote 90% for the Dems for very obvious reasons.
Illegal aliens are going to vote for whoever panders to them. Right now ZERO is pandering to these invaders.
By the way, the turn out was huge and you know it.
So lets see, New York City has around 8,274,527 people
2000 people show up in New York City to support the New York City Tea Party.
That is approximately 0.000241705659 Percent of the Population in New York City.
Two Ten-Thousandths of one percent or in other words, not worthy of any note and completely irrelevant statistically speaking when put into context.
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Right so pandering to illegal aliens, welfare bums who pay no taxes, and civil servants is going to get the GOP elected again?
Blacks always vote 90% for the Dems for very obvious reasons.
Illegal aliens are going to vote for whoever panders to them. Right now ZERO is pandering to these invaders.
By the way, the turn out was huge and you know it.
Quit embarassing yourself.
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I think its of note that these protests were peaceful and people seemed to bond together well. Many other protests are violent and have a much more combative or negative tone.
I find it disturbing that the response of some of the pro-big gov left wingers had such aggressive and demeaning responses to a reasonable protest of big gov/big spending policies. It is very 'American' (as far as history goes) to challenge a government that is too powerful, spends too much and has a non-sustainable debt/GDP ratio.
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Like I said, it was reported on the radio this morning in NYC there was between 10,000 to 12, 000.
NYC is the heart of Obamastan.
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Quit embarassing yourself.
The overall turnout across the nation was huge and you cant deny it.
Just because your precious MSNBC did not report on it accurately do not mean it did not happen.
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I think its of note that these protests were peaceful and people seemed to bond together well. Many other protests are violent and have a much more combative or negative tone.
I find it disturbing that the response of some of the pro-big gov left wingers had such aggressive and demeaning responses to a reasonable protest of big gov/big spending policies. It is very 'America' (as far as history goes) to challenge a government that is too powerful, spends too much and has a non-sustainable debt/GDP ratio.
Not all were peaceful.. For instance, the Secret Service had to bring out their bomb robot in front of the White House for one. Police had to break up a few others here and there. Attendance for the most part was so low, there was no potential for anything.
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Adonis, your a pretty smart guy over the net and its healthy to have different opinions and debate, but you occasionally fall into the pattern of the arrogant, sarcastic, insulting left winger. The far right and far left seem to get so impassionate that they are often unable to have reasonable discourse. Thats what we saw from a lot of leftists yesterday and its one thing that really bothers me about the left...many of them are vicious, angry people who enjoy insulting others.
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Like I said, it was reported on the radio this morning in NYC there was between 10,000 to 12, 000.
NYC is the heart of Obamastan.
The overall turnout is even less percentage wise of the voting population than the laughable proportion in New York.
Seriously, if you want to try to repair your party, you are going to have to start examining facts and reality.
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This movement is a direct threat to their greedy desires to steal everyone elses money to fund their Peter Pan policies and subsidize their laziness.
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The overall turnout is even less percentage wise of the voting population than the laughable proportion in New York.
Seriously, if you want to try to repair your party, you are going to have to start examining facts and reality.
The GOP lost its way because it became RAT-lite.
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The attendance of some rallies were low, others had several thousand people. I believe a couple places in the south had rather large turnouts. The DC turnout was somewhat low, although the weather was also horrible. I'll bet we'll see these again, particularly as more people get turned on to the real spending going on and the debt we are building.
Past protests of even hundreds of people have turned ugly.
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This movement is a direct threat to their greedy desires to steal everyone elses money to fund their Peter Pan policies and subsidize their laziness.
Pure meaningless rhetoric devoid of anything factual.
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The attendance of some rallies were low, others had several thousand people. I believe a couple places in the south had rather large turnouts. The DC turnout was somewhat low, although the weather was also horrible. I'll bet we'll see these again, particularly as more people get turned on to the real spending going on and the debt we are building.
Past protests of even hundreds of people have turned ugly.
Remember, the huge protests of the left are largely made up of people on welfare, disability, ss, entitlements, illegal aliens, and people who dont work.
Working people dont always have the time to protest.
Remember the illegal alien protest last year where they flew the mexican flags???
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Pure meaningless rhetoric devoid of anything factual.
So why do you object to people protesting about paying high taxes and wanting to curtail the radical and reckless spending of Bush and now Obama?
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The attendance of some rallies were low, others had several thousand people. I believe a couple places in the south had rather large turnouts. The DC turnout was somewhat low, although the weather was also horrible. I'll bet we'll see these again, particularly as more people get turned on to the real spending going on and the debt we are building.
Past protests of even hundreds of people have turned ugly.
If you were to do a fractional proportion of those who attended the tax parties divided by the entire voting population, you would then get a figure so low that it would not even register on a graph. Thus the turnout was statistically insignificant.
Keep in mind also, that many there were also children who cannot even vote and then the number sinks even lower. :-\
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So why do you object to people protesting about paying high taxes and wanting to curtail the radical and reckless spending of Bush and now Obama?
I am not objecting. I am just laughing at their attempt to pretend to be significant and meaningful. Judging by the signs, these people don`t even know the difference between, fascism, capitalism, socialism, communism or even why they are there in the first place.
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So why do you object to people protesting about paying high taxes and wanting to curtail the radical and reckless spending of Bush and now Obama?
Obama`s tax plan is the largest middle class tax cut in history. I don`t understand this high tax rhetoric. It simply is not true.
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I am not objecting. I am just laughing at their attempt to pretend to be significant and meaningful. Judging by the signs, these people don`t even know the difference between, fascism, capitalism, socialism, communism or even why they are there in the first place.
Many people were there for different reasons.
What you dont understand is that for every person out there, there are many multiples who wish they could go but have jobs and families to support.
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Agreed, it was a small turnout compared to the voting populations.
Still, I see nothing wrong with a peaceful protest urging the gov to stop its big spending ways. To me, this is not a repub vs dem issue. It is a big-gov vs limited gov issue. You'll have idiots in any protest, activists, fringe people but if the protests rallied around opposing big gov, spending practices in the last several yrs and new taxation that we are just starting to see (what may be the tip of the iceberg to come in the next 2-4 yrs), I think that is a just cause.
As the gov continues to spend and taxes continue to rise (taxes other than federal income tax which has not risen and hopefully doesn't), we will see more people join groups like this and it is healthy feedback for the gov.
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Obama`s tax plan is the largest middle class tax cut in history. I don`t understand this high tax rhetoric. It simply is not true.
Its utter nonsense. Its a credit that you are taxed on that ends in two years. The overall rates were not reduced one percent.
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Agreed, it was a small turnout compared to the voting populations.
Still, I see nothing wrong with a peaceful protest urging the gov to stop its big spending ways. To me, this is not a repub vs dem issue. It is a big-gov vs limited gov issue. You'll have idiots in any protest, activists, fringe people but if the protests rallied around opposing big gov, spending practices in the last several yrs and new taxation that we are just starting to see (what may be the tip of the iceberg to come in the next 2-4 yrs), I think that is a just cause.
As the gov continues to spend and taxes continue to rise (taxes other than federal income tax which has not risen and hopefully doesn't), we will see more people join groups like this and it is healthy feedback for the gov.
The problem is these people are not offering ANY solutions or state and local budget alternative proposals. If you took a look at these Teabagging rallies, they were directed at Obama and the Federal Tax system which you readily understand has not risen. The anger seems to be un-bottled and misdirected with no coherence whatsoever. There is no coordinated grievance or redress. This failure of cohesion will just continue to result in mass confusion and disinformation without any direction.
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The problem is these people are not offering ANY solutions or state and local budget alternative proposals. If you took a look at these Teabagging rallies, they were directed at Obama and the Federal Tax system which you readily understand has not risen. The anger seems to be un-bottled and misdirected with no coherence whatsoever. There is no coordinated grievance or redress. This failure of cohesion will just continue to result in mass confusion and disinformation without any direction.
Right, because the "Bush is Hitler" rallies were really an example of clear cohesive policy discussion and debate.
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Right, because the "Bush is Hitler" rallies were really an example of clear cohesive policy discussion and debate.
There was a rally for Bush as Hitler? Where did this take place and was it solely to compare Bush as Hitler as the premise?
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There was a rally for Bush as Hitler? Where did this take place and was it solely to compare Bush as Hitler as the premise?
Exactly. Many of the left wing rallies had and have people showing up for all sorts of causes whether it be freeing Mumia, Free Palenstine, Save Darfur, Stop killing the whales, etc etc.
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Exactly. Many of the left wing rallies had and have people showing up for all sorts of causes whether it be freeing Mumia, Free Palenstine, Save Darfur, Stop killing the whales, etc etc.
Can you link me to the specific "Bush as Hitler" rally. I am coming up blank with my searches.
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Exactly. Many of the left wing rallies had and have people showing up for all sorts of causes whether it be freeing Mumia, Free Palenstine, Save Darfur, Stop killing the whales, etc etc.
Do you lift weights?
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So lets see, New York City has around 8,274,527 people
2000 people show up in New York City to support the New York City Tea Party.
That is approximately 0.000241705659 Percent of the Population in New York City.
Two Ten-Thousandths of one percent or in other words, not worthy of any note and completely irrelevant statistically speaking when put into context.
Geeze,Olberman was falling all over himself when that manly nit wit Ciindi Sheehan had her rallies that drew 15 people in a ditch in Texas.Then THAT WAS PATRIOTISM and a huge wake up call to the nation.
Then you say that the rating on FOX mean nothing and that really doesnt determine if its a success,but now,the numbers do determine if the thing is a success.
Lastly there are 40.7 million black people in this country.The "million man march" drew about 500,000,yet thats a huge new story.
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Do you lift weights?
Far more than you I bet..
I competed in 1997-2000 in some local shows.
Present lifts,
Bench: 365 x 3
Squat: 500
Deadlift: 515
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Far more than you I bet..
I competed in 1997-2000 in some local shows.
Present lifts,
Bench: 365 x 3
Squat: 500
Deadlift: 515
I bench over a hundred pounds.
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Geeze,Olberman was falling all over himself when that manly nit wit Ciindi Sheehan had her rallies that drew 15 people in a ditch in Texas.Then THAT WAS PATRIOTISM and a huge wake up call to the nation.
Then you say that the rating on FOX mean nothing and that really doesnt determine if its a success,but now,the numbers do determine if the thing is a success.
Lastly there are 40.7 million black people in this country.The "million man march" drew about 500,000,yet thats a huge new story.
A story that Fox did not cover I might add. :P
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A story that Fox did not cover I might add. :P
Really?I watch FOX and somehow knew about it and her.I wonder how that happened.Oreilly covered it just about every night.Nice try but your wrong.By the way,it was such a non story and she was such a little nit wit,it shouldnt have been covered..."torture?We dont tortuuuuuuuure"What an idiot.
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Really?I watch FOX and somehow knew about it and her.I wonder how that happened.Oreilly covered it just about every night.Nice try but your wrong.By the way,it was such a non story and she was such a little nit wit,it shouldnt have been covered..."torture?We dont tortuuuuuuuure"What an idiot.
Um,
Fox News was not even created or on air when the Million Man March took place so how in the world could they have covered it? Looks like you made the whole thing up in your head and watched a program entirely in your brain.
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Um,
Fox News was not even created or on air when the Million Man March took place so how in the world could they have covered it? Looks like you made the whole thing up in your head and watched a program entirely in your brain.
I thought you were talking about the Sheehan story.If FOX wasnt on the air,then why the hell do you knock them for not covering it?
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I thought you were talking about the Sheehan story.If FOX wasnt on the air,then why the hell do you knock them for not covering it?
Why or HOW did you remember FOX News as covering the Million Man March is what I want to know. Did you create an entire false memory of watching the Million Man March on Fox News?
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Why or HOW did you remember FOX News as covering the Million Man March is what I want to know. Did you create an entire false memory of watching the Million Man March on Fox News?
He just answered your question.
He didn't say that he watched the Million Man March on Fox News (at least, not the day it happened). He could very easily watch footage from MMM, broadcasted on Fox (i.e. on the O'Reilly Factor), taken from a newscast that covered it the day that it happened.
Furthermore, the bulk of his statement was about Cindy Sheehan, not MMM.
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He just answered your question.
He didn't say that he watched the Million Man March on Fox News (at least, not the day it happened). He could very easily watch footage from MMM, broadcasted on Fox (i.e. on the O'Reilly Factor), taken from a newscast that covered it the day that it happened.
Furthermore, the bulk of his statement was about Cindy Sheehan, not MMM.
Cindy Sheehan`s protest were a failure as well. We are still in Iraq and Afghanistan and the point to her protests were to bring the troops home.
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FOX barely covered the 2003 Iraq anti-war protest, where 500,000 people showed up in NYC to try to stop bush froom launching a war.
This series of rallies was much much smaller.
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Right so pandering to illegal aliens, welfare bums who pay no taxes, and civil servants is going to get the GOP elected again?
Blacks always vote 90% for the Dems for very obvious reasons.
Illegal aliens are going to vote for whoever panders to them. Right now ZERO is pandering to these invaders.
By the way, the turn out was huge and you know it.
Nice racist statement you scumbag... The turn outs where HUGE where FOX NOISE PROMOTED THEM... the rest were crap... They had less than 200 in Philly... Philly is a top 10 populated Market in the UNITED STATES
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I think its of note that these protests were peaceful and people seemed to bond together well. Many other protests are violent and have a much more combative or negative tone.
I find it disturbing that the response of some of the pro-big gov left wingers had such aggressive and demeaning responses to a reasonable protest of big gov/big spending policies. It is very 'American' (as far as history goes) to challenge a government that is too powerful, spends too much and has a non-sustainable debt/GDP ratio.
Holding racist signs is a Positive Tone? Posting pics of Obama and HITLER is Positive?
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Nice racist statement you scumbag... The turn outs where HUGE where FOX NOISE PROMOTED THEM... the rest were crap... They had less than 200 in Philly... Philly is a top 10 populated Market in the UNITED STATES
The truth hurts doesnt it?
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Cindy Sheehan`s protest were a failure as well. We are still in Iraq and Afghanistan and the point to her protests were to bring the troops home.
But it was covered as though it was an earth shattering,change the world ,protest,when in fact it was 20 idiots in a ditch in Texas.The libs hailed her as a hero and someone who was a serious person,but with the tea parties its nothing but slurs like that bull dyke Maddow calling them "tea baggers".
As far as the anti-war rallies,FOX had it on every single night.Not sure what your talking about.There is a reason FOX has more viewrs then CNN,MSNBC and HEADLINE NEWS combined!!By the way,they get those ratings as the country voted for Obama so apparently,even moderates and libs watch FOX over morons like Olberman and the Dyke.
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Why dont you watch it... Your Buddy at FOX got CAUGHT and didnt know the camera was turned off... He was told there were about 5000 people and then went on tv 9 minutes later saying there were 10-15000.. Damn liberals forcing fox news to lie..
Liberals talking and lying to each other as usual. No wonder no one watches those shows.
By the way, you greedy liberals are nervous about this movement and it shows.
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Why dont you watch it... Your Buddy at FOX got CAUGHT and didnt know the camera was turned off... He was told there were about 5000 people and then went on tv 9 minutes later saying there were 10-15000.. Damn liberals forcing fox news to lie..
I dont watch much tv at all other than Discovery, History, and Spike.
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So why do you object to people protesting about paying high taxes and wanting to curtail the radical and reckless spending of Bush and now Obama?
How fucking stupid are you? Maybe you should read the news. NOBODY pays HIGH TAXES in this country. OBAMA JUST SIGNED THE LARGEST MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUT IN UNITED STATES HISTORY 6 WEEKS AGO. It took effect April 1st. So your tiny paycheck is a little bigger than it was last month. But you keep screaming HIGH TAXES!!! OBAMA IS GONNA RAISE THEM!!! Pssst, he cut them.
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No he did not. They gave a taxable credit that ends in two years. They did not change the rates.
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How fucking stupid are you? Maybe you should read the news. NOBODY pays HIGH TAXES in this country. OBAMA JUST SIGNED THE LARGEST MIDDLE CLASS TAX CUT IN UNITED STATES HISTORY 6 WEEKS AGO. It took effect April 1st. So your tiny paycheck is a little bigger than it was last month. But you keep screaming HIGH TAXES!!! OBAMA IS GONNA RAISE THEM!!! Pssst, he cut them.
As of yesterday, my paycheck for this week will be about $6,400.00.
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Why dont you watch it... Your Buddy at FOX got CAUGHT and didnt know the camera was turned off... He was told there were about 5000 people and then went on tv 9 minutes later saying there were 10-15000.. Damn liberals forcing fox news to lie..
haha that was a pretty brutal owning.
He did outright triple the number he was given off-air when he went on-air.
Imagine the outrage if Obama decided to triple the numbers on something he was very clearly given 5 minutes earlier - and was busted on camera doing it.
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As of yesterday, my paycheck for this week will be about $6,400.00.
you the man
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Yep Im sure it was... LOL...
I pay myself 5,000 a week. Thats all I need, the rest stays in my businesses and gets reinvested. But since you make 6400/week how much you pay in taxes out of that 6400? Id be willing to bet your check was 640 not 6400.
As of yesterday, my paycheck for this week will be about $6,400.00.
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Yep Im sure it was... LOL...
I pay myself 5,000 a week. Thats all I need, the rest stays in my businesses and gets reinvested. But since you make 6400/week how much you pay in taxes out of that 6400? Id be willing to bet your check was 640 not 6400.
None of your business. I have a very tax friendly SEP that comes first.
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None of your business. I have a very tax friendly SEP that comes first.
you the man
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These little parties were a complete failure. The only thing more pathetic than the measly little turnouts are the lying idiots on the news and this thread that keep attempting to boost the numbers up and up.
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Frustration must be a real bit.ch
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5 grand per week?!?!?! Nice. No wonder why you are more than comfortable with things as is.
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Yes, a more cohesive message and more detailed plans are needed but the rallies were people expressing organized frustration.
There have been alternative tax and spend proposals but they were shot down quickly.
The people telling their government to stop its enormous deficit spending is not foolish or something to ridicule.
I'm sure there were a couple signs that were questionable, just like every rally but in general, these were very peaceful protests.
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5 grand per week?!?!?! Nice. No wonder why you are more than comfortable with things as is.
I find it hard to believe that someone with horrible grammar skills can earn 250k a year unless he is a pro-athlete or drug dealer.
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Busted, what do you do?
We focus on federal income tax but many here fail to see the increase in taxation baked into the retail prices of items. Cigarettes and alcohol taxation have gone up significantly. Same with regional taxation, RITA, city and state taxes in many areas. This is a nationwide call to limit spending at all levels. So many states are bankrupt and looking for federal dollars. Its the worst at a federal level, but we are seeing multi-level unsustainable spending. Anyone who agrees with the federal gov's recent spending should look at California because that is where we are headed as a nation if we cannot control spending.
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Busted, what do you do?
We focus on federal income tax but many here fail to see the increase in taxation baked into the retail prices of items. Cigarettes and alcohol taxation have gone up significantly. Same with regional taxation, RITA, city and state taxes in many areas. This is a nationwide call to limit spending at all levels. So many states are bankrupt and looking for federal dollars. Its the worst at a federal level, but we are seeing multi-level unsustainable spending. Anyone who agrees with the federal gov's recent spending should look at California because that is where we are headed as a nation if we cannot control spending.
Another thing, how is the economy going to possibly recover for average people when the states themselves are massively raising taxes?
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These little parties were a complete failure. The only thing more pathetic than the measly little turnouts are the lying idiots on the news and this thread that keep attempting to boost the numbers up and up.
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Frustration must be a real bit.ch
You tell us. As I've said earlier, you were in this same boat just a few years ago.
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I have no idea 333386. I anticipate more tax raises by 2011. Obama laid out budget deficits for the next 10 years and thats assuming we will be getting the optimistic growth #s his people assumed (I hope so, but what if they are off...even worse).
I am not personally bothered by the word 'teabagging' but I'm not so sure thats a reasonable term to be using by the media on newschannels. Just something wrong about Maddow repeatedly using teabagging as a verb. I guess it was on CNN too, which I didn't expect.
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I have no idea 333386. I anticipate more tax raises by 2011. Obama laid out budget deficits for the next 10 years and thats assuming we will be getting the optimistic growth #s his people assumed (I hope so, but what if they are off...even worse).
I am not personally bothered by the word 'teabagging' but I'm not so sure thats a reasonable term to be using by the media on newschannels. Just something wrong about Maddow repeatedly using teabagging as a verb. I guess it was on CNN too, which I didn't expect.
I, like almost 99.99999999999999999999% of the rest of population dont watch her or the guy who hides under the desk.
It is obvious that a movement is breweng. It has to start somehwere and I was very encouraged by what i saw yesterday.
The next battle is Obama's push for amnesty for illegal aliens.
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I have no idea 333386. I anticipate more tax raises by 2011. Obama laid out budget deficits for the next 10 years and thats assuming we will be getting the optimistic growth #s his people assumed (I hope so, but what if they are off...even worse).
I am not personally bothered by the word 'teabagging' but I'm not so sure thats a reasonable term to be using by the media on newschannels. Just something wrong about Maddow repeatedly using teabagging as a verb. I guess it was on CNN too, which I didn't expect.
Maddow would be the first one to scream if someone called Barney Frank,Barney Fag.However,when its the left,name calling is just fine.I wonder if she would call those at the events "teabaggers" to their face?My bet is NO!!!
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Maddow would be the first one to scream if someone called Barney Frank,Barney Fag.However,when its the left,name calling is just fine.I wonder if she would call those at the events "teabaggers" to their face?My bet is NO!!!
Would you?
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I have no idea 333386. I anticipate more tax raises by 2011. Obama laid out budget deficits for the next 10 years and thats assuming we will be getting the optimistic growth #s his people assumed (I hope so, but what if they are off...even worse).
I am not personally bothered by the word 'teabagging' but I'm not so sure thats a reasonable term to be using by the media on newschannels. Just something wrong about Maddow repeatedly using teabagging as a verb. I guess it was on CNN too, which I didn't expect.
Teabagging sounds like Muffdiving...
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Yes....and that she could say with more authority ;D
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Yes....and that she could say with more authority ;D
Wimps on the left NEVER say ANYTHING to Anyones face.Keith Olberman,who is the "male" version of Maddow[ALTHOUGH IM NOT REALLY SURE WHO IS THE MALE OR FEMALE],once told how Don Imus used to make secrataries cry in the hallways of MSNBC.He went on to insult Imus on the air.Incredibly though,when Imus was there and Big Keith saw him insulting these secrataries and making them cry,Olberman said NOTHING!!!!It was only after Imus was fired and out of the building that tough guy Keith insulted him.Face to face?Nothing!!!Maddow would be EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!
By the way ever hear how tough guy Keith pulled out of announcing the Olympics in Greece because he was too chicken shit to go bevcause of the threat of terrorism?
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The problem is that the republicans and other conservatives are constantly chanting this low taxation mantra....but the republicans lower taxes then borrow to make up the difference......which puts us into debt to the chinese......and we pay a lot of interest on that debt........I would rather be taxed and pay our own way than to continue borrowing money from other countries which puts us at risk because these countries will basically own our asses and our children's asses for years to come..
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Exactly. Many of the left wing rallies had and have people showing up for all sorts of causes whether it be freeing Mumia, Free Palenstine, Save Darfur, Stop killing the whales, etc etc.
so what???..no one paid attention to them either.,..except for you ;D