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By high carb I mean whilst dieting do you take in more 200 grams of carbs a day?
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I'm on the asskins diet. Low protein, high carb.
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By high carb I mean whilst dieting do you take in more 200 grams of carbs a day?
Yes. Debussey also does this on a fat burning diet most of the time. Often a lot more than 200 actually.
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I'm on the asskins diet. Low protein, high carb.
Don't forget your pre-bedtime bagels.
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I always did for my past shows
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I'm on a high carb high fat high protein diet.
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I'm on a high carb high fat high protein diet.
I didnt know onlyme handed out dieting advices here.
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Don't forget your pre-bedtime bagels.
It's toooo easy
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I didnt know onlyme handed out dieting advices here.
I bet his diet is awesome ;D
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Debussey has done over 400 grams of carbs/day on diets before with very good results (but this amount got somewhat smaller eventually when the calories were lowered).
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I eat whatever I want, whenever I want
Just had 2 Cream pastries, (cream horns)
2 Jam and cream biscuits (scones for us english folk)
2 Almond cakes
1/2 litre stawberry milk
It's late here so I don't plan on burning it off. I'm stuffed to the gills
over 1500 cal
Loving it
8)
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I bet his diet is awesome ;D
He's on the see-food diet :D
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I eat whatever I want, whenever I want
Just had 2 Cream pastries, (cream horns)
2 Jam and cream biscuits (scones for us english folk)
2 Almond cakes
1/2 litre stawberry milk
It's late here so I don't plan on burning it off. I'm stuffed to the gills
over 1500 cal
Loving it
8)
Those are the Adonis Principles to the tee.
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Debussey has done over 400 grams of carbs/day on diets before with very good results (but this amount got somewhat smaller eventually when the calories were lowered).
how much protein?
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I eat whatever I want, whenever I want
Just had 2 Cream pastries, (cream horns)
2 Jam and cream biscuits (scones for us english folk)
2 Almond cakes
1/2 litre stawberry milk
It's late here so I don't plan on burning it off. I'm stuffed to the gills
over 1500 cal
Loving it
8)
You can't beat a nice scone.
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how much protein?
180 - 200 grams/day. On a 2860 calorie fatburning diet, the macronutrient breakdown will be the following:
About 55,94% of calories from carbs = 1600 calories/400 grams.
About 25,17% of calories from protein = 720 calories/180 grams
About 18,81% of calories from fat = 540 calories/60 grams of fat
If calories were to go higher, the macronutrient of choice for adding these would be fat.
This would be the basis for the first 2 - 6 weeks during long term dieting, with a target of loosing about 0,5 kg/1,1 pound per week. For a system like Layne Norton uses (2-4 weeks high calories, 2 weeks of dieting, the numbers would be different).
The results are consistent as fuck, with a long term weight log showing almost a linear weight loss that amounts to 0,5 kg/1,1 pounds per week for the first few months (with very little reduction in strenght or energy, while showing a predictable reduction in bodyfat measured with Jackson and Pollock 3 site) with only minimal reduction of the calories.
This is not necessary a diet for getting on stage though, and it would probably need to be tweaked eventually if the goal was to compete in BB.
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Eating just over 200 grams a day right now 5 weeks out.
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180 - 200 grams/day. On a 2860 calorie fatburning diet, the macronutrient breakdown will be the following:
About 55,94% of calories from carbs = 1600 calories/400 grams.
About 25,17% of calories from protein = 720 calories/180 grams
About 18,81% of calories from fat = 540 calories/60 grams of fat
If calories were to go higher, the macronutrient of choice for adding these would be fat.
This would be the basis for the first 2 - 6 weeks during long term dieting, with a target of loosing about 0,5 kg/1,1 pound per week. For a system like Layne Norton uses (2-4 weeks high calories, 2 weeks of dieting, the numbers would be different).
The results are consistent as fuck, with a long term weight log showing almost a linear weight loss that amounts to the target weight loss for the first few months (with very little reduction in strenght or energy, while showing a predictable reduction in bodyfat measured with Jackson and Pollock 3 site) with only minimal reduction of the calories.
This is not necessary a diet for getting on stage though, and it would probably need to be tweaked eventually if the goal was to compete in BB.
Height, weight, and bodyfat in your best shape?
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Height, weight, and bodyfat in your best shape?
Bodyweight: 81 pounds, 9,2 inch arms, 25% bodyfat :'(
Bench press: 55 pounds for a few reps.
For more details on Debussey's training, check Debussey's training log, found here (It = very important that you read this, the workouts on teh first page = brutal!)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=206513.0
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Bodyweight: 81 pounds, 9,2 inch arms, 25% bodyfat :'(
Bench press: 55 pounds for a few reps.
For more details on Debussey's training, check Debussey's training log, found here (It = very important that you read this, the workouts on teh first page = brutal!)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=206513.0
Damn, I almost got you, didn't I ;D
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i probaly woof more than 500g away a lot of the time
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i probaly woof more than 500g away a lot of the time
this a thread of mortals, super natural beings please make your own thread
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Damn, I almost got you, didn't I ;D
What happened here? This post:
180 - 200 grams/day. On a 2860 calorie fatburning diet, the macronutrient breakdown will be the following:
About 55,94% of calories from carbs = 1600 calories/400 grams.
About 25,17% of calories from protein = 720 calories/180 grams
About 18,81% of calories from fat = 540 calories/60 grams of fat
If calories were to go higher, the macronutrient of choice for adding these would be fat.
This would be the basis for the first 2 - 6 weeks during long term dieting, with a target of loosing about 0,5 kg/1,1 pound per week. For a system like Layne Norton uses (2-4 weeks high calories, 2 weeks of dieting, the numbers would be different).
The results are consistent as fuck, with a long term weight log showing almost a linear weight loss that amounts to 0,5 kg/1,1 pounds per week for the first few months (with very little reduction in strenght or energy, while showing a predictable reduction in bodyfat measured with Jackson and Pollock 3 site) with only minimal reduction of the calories.
This is not necessary a diet for getting on stage though, and it would probably need to be tweaked eventually if the goal was to compete in BB.
was never written by Debussey. The nurse on the mental asylum must have been trolling Debussey's beloved account while Debussey was taking the xanax, valium and the nightly dose of potato chips >:( >:( >:(
Debussey's diet = McDonalds and potato chips.
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i probaly woof more than 500g away a lot of the time
That would work fine, especially when not trying to lose fat.
Disclaimer: *Debussey diet = chips and burgers, so this post = not based on experience*
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this a thread of mortals, super natural beings please make your own thread
I am pudgy and nowhere near yor epic leanness my friend
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was never written by Debussey. The nurse on the mental asylum must have been trolling Debussey's beloved account while Debussey was taking the xanax, valium and the nightly dose of potato chips >:( >:( >:(
Debussey's diet = McDonalds and potato chips.
I'll extrapolate and send the results to a certain someone in TO ;D
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I'll extrapolate and send the results to a certain someone in TO ;D
;D
Take a look in Debussey's training log for some insight into what Debussey = really doing 8) Remember to check out Debussey's training music found on page 3.
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I am pudgy and nowhere near yor epic leanness my friend
Nothing epic about it and easily achieved. Otherwise unattainable for a lazy slacker like myself. ;D
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;D
Take a look in Debussey's training log for some insight into what Debussey = really doing 8) Remember to check out Debussey's training music found on page 3.
that thread = epic
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that thread = epic
Yes! Sneaky nurses and grams of sugah.
In theory, going so hard on HIT cardio for around 15 minutes that you almost puke a couple of times per week on the running track or some road uphill place in the forest = great on a diet (and when not dieting for that matter), and especially if you do sports that require intense conditioning (Layne Norton also does this). This = according to Gary Busey, who favors an extremely systematic and long term approach to dieting and building strength. You avoid that fucking tiredness that can come from long periods of low intensity cardio at the same time, and the improved conditioning crushes whatever crap cardio that can be gained on low intensity cardio. You also learn to deal with physical pain and gain mental toughness on such a program. The determination to finish a HIT workout when your body hurts like hell (and when puking = imminent) faster than the last time you did it = useful in other areas of life. This = almost like training like a special soldier (ala hell week in Bud/S).
Debussey also thinks that doing such training improves your minds ability to function during stressful and physically painful situations, but this = just Debussey's opinion, not something Debussey has checked out research on.
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Debussey has done over 400 grams of carbs/day on diets before with very good results (but this amount got somewhat smaller eventually when the calories were lowered).
Debussey=good genetics
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Debussey=good genetics
Does an 80 pound body with 9 inch arms and 25% BF sounds like good genetics too you? :'( >:( :'(
Ps: Those dieting posts were written by Debussey's sneaky nurse. >:(
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Nothing epic about it and easily achieved. Otherwise unattainable for a lazy slacker like myself. ;D
Your constant claim about it being so easy really makes me wonder if I am metabolically disturbed... :-\
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I'm on the asskins asskissen diet. Low protein, high carb.
Corrected
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Yes! Sneaky nurses and grams of sugah.
In theory, going so hard on HIT cardio for around 15 minutes that you almost puke a couple of times per week on the running track or some road uphill place in the forest = great on a diet (and when not dieting for that matter), and especially if you do sports that require intense conditioning (Layne Norton also does this). This = according to Gary Busey, who favors an extremely systematic and long term approach to dieting and building strength. You avoid that fucking tiredness that can come from long periods of low intensity cardio at the same time, and the improved conditioning crushes whatever crap cardio that can be gained on low intensity cardio. You also learn to deal with physical pain and gain mental toughness on such a program. The determination to finish a HIT workout when your body hurts like hell (and when puking = imminent) faster than the last time you did it = useful in other areas of life. This = almost like training like a special soldier (ala hell week in Bud/S).
Debussey also thinks that doing such training improves your minds ability to function during stressful and physically painful situations, but this = just Debussey's opinion, not something Debussey has checked out research on.
Wavelength doesn't believe in cardio; apparently stuffing your face with doughnuts and sitting in a chair all day will lead to good weight loss as long as there is some caloric deficit.
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Wavelength doesn't believe in cardio; apparently stuffing your face with doughnuts and sitting in a chair all day will lead to good weight loss as long as there is some caloric deficit.
Debussey agrees with Wavelength here. Might not be optimal, but it will work if your body = not really tricky in regards to fatloss.
Debussey would in theory (since Debussey does not train cardio or diet) not bother with normal low intensity cardio either (Debussey has done experiments on this type of cardio in hypothetical diets while measuring variables like weight and BF while logging the overall energy levels during training, strength levels and energy in other day2day activities), but HIT cardio has so many benefits (while the hypothetical diet data indicates that it works much better on a diet than the low intensity crap, for fatloss and for maintaining a good overall feeling in the gym and other activities) that it should be done anyway, if anything, just for the opportunities to gain mental toughness and superior cardio while NOT fucking up your workouts.
But this is just Debussey's hypothetical experience on itself. For other spermers, it might be different. But low intensity cardio = complete crap for Debussey in Debussey's hypothetical worlds.
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Debussey agrees with Wavelength here. Might not be optimal, but it will work if your body = not really tricky in regards to fatloss.
Debussey would in theory (since Debussey does not train cardio or diet) not bother with normal low intensity cardio either (Debussey has done experiments on this type of cardio in hypothetical diets while measuring variables like weight and BF while logging the overall energy levels during training, strength levels and energy in other day2day activities), but HIT cardio has so many benefits (while the hypothetical diet data indicates that it works much better on a diet than the low intensity crap, for fatloss and for maintaining a good overall feeling in the gym and other activities) that it should be done anyway, if anything, just for the opportunities to gain mental toughness and superior cardio while NOT fucking up your workouts.
But this is just Debussey's hypothetical experience on itself. For other spermers, it might be different. But low intensity cardio = complete crap for Debussey in Debussey's hypothetical worlds.
Yeah, I am working my way into HIIT. I can't do as much as I like right now because I am just starting but hopefully I will improve. But so far I have to say it is very painful and unpleasant and I hate doing it even though I force myself.
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epic culinary skills...prob 150g carbs here
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Yeah, I am working my way into HIIT. I can't do as much as I like right now because I am just starting but hopefully I will improve. But so far I have to say it is very painful and unpleasant and I hate doing it even though I force myself.
Good work! You should start off easy when doing HIT cardio, ESPECIALLY if you're doing all out sprints on the running track of in steep uphill roads. Initially, your chin bones, and different muscles in your legs might hurt like hell in the days following a HIT session, so do it slowly until your body adapts to the sprints.
It IS very unpleasant, it flat out hurts like hell at times, but that's when it becomes fun because it builds mental toughness when you push past the pain in order to complete your workout as you have planned.
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epic culinary skills...prob 150g carbs here
More like 300... :-X
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epic culinary skills...prob 150g carbs here
Good meal there 8)
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eggs 7 rounds of bread and some coke
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today ive eaten two meals so far. necxt one in a minute.
both meals were about 600g carbs from white rice, about 100g protein from steak, and a big glass of skim milk with a few veggie pills.
next meal is a big protein shake with pizza.
when i diet ill probably do about 500 g total carb per day
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today ive eaten two meals so far. necxt one in a minute.
both meals were about 600g carbs from white rice, about 100g protein from steak, and a big glass of skim milk with a few veggie pills.
next meal is a big protein shake with pizza.
when i diet ill probably do about 500 g total carb per day
Good. You = pretty big now, and would probably handle 500g/day well, especially on drugs.
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Good. You = pretty big now, and would probably handle 500g/day well, especially on drugs.
im big if fat counts, lol. but yeah i could do well on high carbs. most people can.
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I do high protein, high carb, low fat(mostly just trace fats and some olive oil here and there). When i'm trying to lose fat i do keto though so then when i go back to bulking the carbs are a nice change.
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today ive eaten two meals so far. necxt one in a minute.
both meals were about 600g carbs from white rice, about 100g protein from steak, and a big glass of skim milk with a few veggie pills.
next meal is a big protein shake with pizza.
when i diet ill probably do about 500 g total carb per day
gettin swole brah?
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By high carb I mean whilst dieting do you take in more 200 grams of carbs a day?
If you want to cut calories, carbs are the only thing it makes sense to cut. I mean, why would you cut protein (you wouldn't), and while you can cut fat back some, unless you were eating an unhealthily high amount of it to begin with, that has its limits.
That said, keto levels are not required to lose weight. You can get 100-120g/day, feel fine, and still lose fat.
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and some coke
That's how you stay lean eating all those carbs?
(http://www.irishhealth.com/content/image/14484/Cocaine.jpg)