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Title: Pouring on the Chuck Liddell Hard Sell
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on April 17, 2009, 09:59:10 PM

Dana White may claim his comments were blown out of proportion, but the UFC is now hyping UFC 97 as potentially the last Chuck Liddell fight ever.  It's probably too late, but this ad they put out is extremely effective. 

I still don't know what to think of Chuck Liddell in 2009.  There's an obvious argument he has declined: he lost 3 of 4, and hasn't knocked someone out since Tito in 2006.  On the other hand, I'm more persuaded by the argument that all his time in the spotlight gave people the chance to figure him out, and hard hitters were able to exploit those weaknesses. 

If it is more the latter than the former, then Chuck Liddell can still make another run.  He can adjust his game and try to plug the holes.  Nobody doubts he has the tools to win in this sport.  However, if it really is his age, and his chin and reflexes really are shot, then there's not much he can do.

I've been watching Chuck fights again all week, and I don't really think he's slower on the draw now than he used to be.  I just think he's fighting guys who are a lot faster on the draw and a lot more powerful.  It's easy to make defensive striking mistakes and get away with it against Babalu and Tito Ortiz, not so much against Quinton Jackson and Rashad Evans.

His new camp has supposedly been focused a lot on boxing defense, and so has Shogun's.  It will be interesting to see if they bring out any new tricks, or if this turns into a wild brawl within the first few minutes.

Personally, I have a hard time believing this is the last time we'll see Chuck Liddell in the octagon.

Title: Re: Pouring on the Chuck Liddell Hard Sell
Post by: Captain Equipoise on April 18, 2009, 01:39:03 AM

It's gonna be hard, I think the same will happen with Chuck that happened to guys like Ken Shamrock and Royce Gracie, the sport outgrew them, guys figured them out and steamrolled past them, let's face it, chuck is a one trick pony, he has decent wrestling skills and a crazy right hand..that's it, no jj ground game, he can't do shit off his back, and his jaw is not the best...

Title: Re: Pouring on the Chuck Liddell Hard Sell
Post by: BFP on April 18, 2009, 12:41:06 PM

Looked like he is in real good shape in the weigh in pics...better than normal

Title: Re: Pouring on the Chuck Liddell Hard Sell
Post by: CARTEL on April 18, 2009, 01:23:21 PM

Chuck was always overrated.

Now he is just rated  :-\

Title: Re: Pouring on the Chuck Liddell Hard Sell
Post by: Big_Tymer on April 18, 2009, 07:36:40 PM

chuck is way over rated

Title: Re: Pouring on the Chuck Liddell Hard Sell
Post by: George Whorewell on April 18, 2009, 08:39:06 PM

I dont think hes over rated- he just never evolved. He's pretty much the same guy he was when he started fighting except now hes 40 years old and has a lot of milage. I agree though- he's like Gracie and a lot of the old lions who really put the UFC on the map- Great at doing one thing in particular, but not versatile at all; once the younger guys catch up, they cant hang anymore.

I will say this about chuck- He fought everybody- even when he was past his prime. Gotta respect that.