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Title: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Lift Studios on April 18, 2009, 12:57:27 AM
The Orlando Pro started out with Darrem looking like he would notch another win but as the prejudging went on he faded. While Darrem was slipping Hidetada was getting better the more he posed. Hidetada looked near his best, if not his best ever. Despite these two switching places, Troy Alves will leave Orlando the winner at least in my opinion. Troy was the best he'd been in years and picked the right show to get an Olympia qualification. Sergy looked good but wasn't sharp enough to go beyond 4th place. 5th will probably go to George Farah but we only saw the top four get compared.

My predictions:
1. Troy Alves
2. Hidetada Yamagishi
3. Darrem Charles
4. Sergey Shelestov
5. George Farah

Photos on bodybuilding.com here (http://tinyurl.com/c26sp4).
Title: Re: Orlando Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: D_1000 on April 18, 2009, 01:01:48 AM
My predictions:
1. Troy Alves
2. Hidetada Yamagishi
3. Darrem Charles
4. Sergey Shelestov
5. George Farah

Full agreement here.
Title: Re: Orlando Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Ron on April 18, 2009, 01:02:59 AM
great pics ... for those who doubted Troy after his poor finish at the Ironman, Troy looks awesome.

Troy over Darrem, although Darrem looks graet too.
Title: Re: Orlando Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: io856 on April 18, 2009, 01:03:31 AM
great pics ... for those who doubted Troy after his poor finish at the Ironman, Troy looks awesome.

Troy over Darrem, although Darrem looks graet too.
How are Troy's glutes?
Title: Re: Orlando Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: 11venthhour on April 18, 2009, 01:12:15 AM
How are Troy's glutes?

soft ;D

1. hide
2. troy
Title: Re: Orlando Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: D_1000 on April 18, 2009, 01:18:00 AM
soft ;D

1. hide
2. troy


How's Hide's back? Not comparable.

1. Troy
2. Hide

;)

Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: 11venthhour on April 18, 2009, 01:20:35 AM
weak hams, he got him on some width, but not touching him on detail. i would even give hide the back double. from the front troy has no legs, no detail either.

1. hide
2. troy

 ;)
Title: Re: Orlando Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: musclecenter on April 18, 2009, 01:24:24 AM
How's Hide's back? Not comparable.

1. Troy
2. Hide

;)


:)
Title: Re: Orlando Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Lift Studios on April 18, 2009, 04:29:31 AM
:)
8)

Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: wes on April 18, 2009, 04:31:19 AM
Can`t overlook Paco Bautista for the top 5........not pretty to look at but ripped to shreds.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Stavios on April 18, 2009, 05:05:20 AM
Hide really is the clear cut winner in those shots

Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: jwb on April 18, 2009, 05:12:40 AM
Talk about an inverse relationship between thickness and width...
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Stavios on April 18, 2009, 05:15:34 AM
Paco looks great !!

i would have him top 3, cause I am a big conditionning fan.
He will place better in NY
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kiwiol on April 18, 2009, 05:32:19 AM
One of the worst lineups ever. Hide may be in condition, but he's boring to look at as usual and his back is just plain embarrassing.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 06:23:46 AM
Paco looks great !!

i would have him top 3, cause I am a big conditionning fan.
He will place better in NY
Who can be harder than this?
The hardest most muscular pose in the bbing history.

P.S. Possibly I wont go to NY Pro...Cus Muscletech want photoshoot him in tronto right after this.. :'(

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 07:20:44 AM
I'd give it to Shelestov, at least he's not missing any bodyparts :-X Darrem's, Troys legs and Hide's back suck big time IMHO.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 07:25:36 AM
Hide really is the clear cut winner in those shots


I would vote Hide for the first place.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: wes on April 18, 2009, 07:32:11 AM
I'd give it to Shelestov, at least he's not missing any bodyparts :-X Darrem's, Troys legs and Hide's back suck big time IMHO.
You know jackshit about bodybuilding!!
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on April 18, 2009, 08:07:46 AM
Who can be harder than this?
The hardest most muscular pose in the bbing history.

P.S. Possibly I wont go to NY Pro...Cus Muscletech want photoshoot him in tronto right after this.. :'(

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)

Yeah, I saved that and I'm going to put it on my wall.  Paco is a fucking freak of nature. 
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 08:09:31 AM
You know jackshit about bodybuilding!!
I know more than you, that's for sure! How dumb must you be claiming that Sergei looks like shit? :o
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kiwiol on April 18, 2009, 08:09:42 AM
Yeah, I saved that and I'm going to put it on my wall.  Paco is a fucking freak of nature. 

Pretty sure that looking at that pic is going to make you hard, although not in the bodybuilding sense of the word ;D
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 08:20:12 AM
wes

Darrem's legs are tiny compare to Shelestov's!

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3974_BJLNUSPIXV.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q4393_PVVTDJUNDX.jpg)

And where is Hide´s back? Left in Japan?

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q4541_KEVAUJXRKJ.jpg)

Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 08:24:55 AM
Darrem has huge water retention than tha pacific oscean.


(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3996_NYPDYGCDXK.jpg)

Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Ron on April 18, 2009, 08:29:41 AM

Hmm..

1) Troy
2) Darrem
3) Hidetada
4) Paco Bautista
5) Shelestov
6) Farah
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 08:31:42 AM
Hmm..

1) Troy
2) Darrem
3) Hidetada
4) Paco Bautista
5) Shelestov
6) Farah

I really dont understand Why Hyper soft Darrem is there.
He dont posses super structure or big mass. So without condition, he is nothing.
Why Why Why?
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 08:32:36 AM
Troy´s upperbody looks fantastic, but from the waist down it's another story :-X

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3823_PNESTBWEIC.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q4405_POOVWUVFMB.jpg)
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 08:37:56 AM
I really dont understand Why Hyper soft Darrem is there.
He dont posses super structure or big mass. So without condition, he is nothing.
Why Why Why?
That's what i mean! You can't win a contest depending 90% on conditioning and having underdeveloped, lacking bodyparts.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 08:40:59 AM
That's what i mean! You can't win a contest depending 90% on conditioning and having underdeveloped, lacking bodyparts.
I know Paco cant win with that reason.

But, Darrem is completely off. He is out of question.

Even Hide looks bit off next to Paco, but i put Hide ahead of Paco because of the structure.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 08:46:11 AM
My judgement

1) Hidetada
2) Troy
3) Paco Bautista
4) Shelestov
5) Farah
6) Darrem
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Stavios on April 18, 2009, 09:02:25 AM
My judgement

1) Hidetada
2) Troy
3) Paco Bautista
4) Shelestov
5) Farah
6) Darrem

Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Ron on April 18, 2009, 09:05:18 AM

Troy looks great, vastly improved from the Ironman, but Darrem usually has the best posing routines today. 
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 09:12:13 AM
Troy looks great, vastly improved from the Ironman, but Darrem usually has the best posing routines today. 
But there is a limit in everything.

Darrem is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off like a guest apperance.

Por favor......... :-\
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: rayrod on April 18, 2009, 09:27:47 AM
you shouldn't be judged on how you improved from your last contest.   you should be judged on how you looked the day of the contest ou are competing in.    troy does not look like the winner today.   also, darrem should not be in top five.  his back side is soft and he has skinny legs compared to his upper body.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 09:34:18 AM
you shouldn't be judged on how you improved from your last contest.   you should be judged on how you looked the day of the contest ou are competing in.    troy does not look like the winner today.   also, darrem should not be in top five.  his back side is soft and he has skinny legs compared to his upper body.
Spot on.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 10:14:04 AM
you shouldn't be judged on how you improved from your last contest.   you should be judged on how you looked the day of the contest ou are competing in.    troy does not look like the winner today.   also, darrem should not be in top five.  his back side is soft and he has skinny legs compared to his upper body.
I completely agree.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: michael arvilla on April 18, 2009, 10:28:29 AM
what about Nathan Wonsley?
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 18, 2009, 10:31:14 AM
I really dont understand Why Hyper soft Darrem is there.
He dont posses super structure or big mass. So without condition, he is nothing.
Why Why Why?

I agree, Kyomu - Darrem places well only because of his name

he is soft and his legs are tiny
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 10:33:00 AM
I agree, Kyomu - Darrem places well only because of his name

he is soft and his legs are tiny
He must be 5th of out of 5th.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Ex Coelis on April 18, 2009, 10:47:50 AM
what about Nathan Wonsley?

excellent physique on Nathan

I don't usually care, but where are his calves  ???
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 12:27:44 PM
No fuking way Charles should beat Shelestov! :-X

(http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=140666&d=1240069871)(http://forums.musculardevelopment.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=140667&d=1240069871)
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Tony Doherty on April 18, 2009, 02:30:11 PM
By that photo, it looks like the Russian's the biggest, most balanced and best there.
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 02:47:18 PM
By that photo, it looks like the Russian's the biggest, most balanced and best there.

Now wes will tell you that you also know jackshit about bodybuilding! ::)
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: CT_Muscle on April 18, 2009, 02:52:40 PM
Paco has the BEST conditioning in the show its a shame he gets the shaft
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 02:57:19 PM
Paco has the BEST conditioning in the show its a shame he gets the shaft
Yeah :-\

Hey, Maybe I wont go to NY. Cus Muscletech made him going to Tronto for photoshoot right after this show instead of after NY pro. >:(
I wont pay 1000euros for 4 days stay only! >:(
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 03:24:09 PM

Top 5 Finalists


1st Place" Troy Alves
* Mr Olympia Qualification & $10,000.00


2nd Place: Hidetada Yamagishi
* All ready qualified for the Mr. Olympia
3rd place: Darrem Charles
* Mr. Olympia Qualification

4th Place: Sergey Shelestov

5th Place: Frederic Sauvage
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 03:40:05 PM

Top 5 Finalists


1st Place" Troy Alves
* Mr Olympia Qualification & $10,000.00


2nd Place: Hidetada Yamagishi
* All ready qualified for the Mr. Olympia
3rd place: Darrem Charles
* Mr. Olympia Qualification

4th Place: Sergey Shelestov

5th Place: Frederic Sauvage

Hahahahahahaha.........Pathetic.......
Title: Re: IFBB Orlando (Europa Show of Champions) Prejudging pics & predictions
Post by: Arkadius on April 18, 2009, 03:44:49 PM
Hahahahahahaha.........Pathetic.......

 :D :D That's what i was thinking!!!