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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: kyomu on April 18, 2009, 06:37:15 AM
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Unreal. Just Unreal....
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
Who was harder than this? NOBODY.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3885_PVFZKWZRVY.jpg)
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wow amazing condition
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is he natural?
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is he natural?
He always says it to me. ;D ;D
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He always says it to me. ;D ;D
You're quite the natural yourself, stud. ;)
::)
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He always says it to me. ;D ;D
looks natural to me ;D
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Comparing with paco, They are SOFT SOFT SOFT
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3856_QRMSRSATBM.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3836_AVWVDYJRCM.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q4564_ETUVUJEQKF.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q4535_RRXLMJMMSP.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q4453_GBGWCJJWOD.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q4421_YWMYBCQLHO.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q4020_ASPSAVGABS.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3996_NYPDYGCDXK.jpg)
Darrem has super waterretention
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I wonder for how long Pacos kidney will hold up
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I wonder for how long Pacos kidney will hold up
Very longer than the others. I promise you. ;)
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LOL. I knew it was Paco before I opened the thread. You're entering bigbobs' territory, kyomu. ;)
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Very longer than the others. I promise you. ;)
Why's that so?
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He is hard but he looks like shit , horrible shape.
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He is hard but he looks like shit , horrible shape.
Agreed.
I wont say he should win. But his placing is too low. His super hardness should be deserved more.
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Great conditioning...........b ut man that is one ugly physique. Terrible shape/structure.
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I want to see more glute/ham tie-ins.
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His physique makes me :-X
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where else can you look at another man's ass without any connotation
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LOL. I knew it was Paco before I opened the thread. You're entering bigbobs' territory, kyomu. ;)
Not true. Paco can make Kyomu get off without having him use a phone ;D
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horrible shape, cutleresque waist
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where else can you look at another man's ass without any connotation
You see a ass there?
I cant see any asses there. Just a freaky glutes muscle there i see.
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You say tomato.
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Horrible lightning, the background is way too bright.
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Horrible lightning, the background is way too bright.
Agreed.
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probably due his genetics that he has the drugs look, doesnt mean he takes more than a martinez.
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probably due his genetics that he has the drugs look, doesnt mean he takes more than a martinez.
Seriously, Thats the real answer.
I cant talk about it in here.
But I can give a hint to all the getbigger.
HE HAS NEVER SHRINKED(Like Phil Heath, Melvin...etc) OR OVER BLOATED(Like Kamali) MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
Any drug abuser can do it? Think about it. ;)
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Seriously, Thats the real answer.
I cant talk about it in here.
But I can give a hint to all the getbigger.
HE HAS NEVER SHRINKED(Like Phil Heath, Melvin...etc) OR OVER BLOATED(Like Kamali) MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
Any drug abuser can do it? Think about it. ;)
So Paco is as natural as yourself, stud?
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look like juicer?
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The hardest most muscular pose...what ???
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/images/bb/dorian-most_muscular.jpg)
BOOOM!!!
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look like juicer?
and you look like Man Bear Pig.
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l62/theonlyPHELPS/manbearpig.jpg)
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The hardest most muscular pose...what ???
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/images/bb/dorian-most_muscular.jpg)
BOOOM!!!
Sorry
Dorian looks good. And me myself, I have seen him competing IN FRONT OF JUDGE.
But, no where near from Paco when it comes to MM pose.
Look at those legs of Dos. And look at those of Paco.
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So Paco is as natural as yourself, stud?
Hahaha. I didnt say he is a natural eighter. ;) ;D
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(http://www.nerepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/asshole.jpg)
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Sorry
Dorian looks good. And me myself, I have seen him competing IN FRONT OF JUDGE.
But, no where near from Paco when it comes to MM pose.
Look at those legs of Dos. And look at those of Paco.
Well then lets be done with it
(http://www.fcvm.com/images/Arnold/branch%20rocks2%20(2).jpg)
end of thread
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There are amateurs that look just as hard as Paco, and have much better shape and overall physique than him as well. His conditioning looks okay, but man does his overall appearance look HORRIBLE.
But, unlike amas, He carrys TONS OF MUSCLE.
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Well then lets be done with it
(http://www.fcvm.com/images/Arnold/branch%20rocks2%20(2).jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
end of thread
I love Branchs Freaky look.
But Pacos MMpose look way more harder due to his deeep cuts in his legs and pecs.
I see still water film in Branchs skin.
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Well then lets be done with it
(http://www.fcvm.com/images/Arnold/branch%20rocks2%20(2).jpg)
end of thread
Look at his eyes. Brutal dead before 45.
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I love Branchs Freaky look.
But Pacos MMpose look way more harder due to his deeep cuts in his legs and pecs.
I see still water film in Branchs skin.
Your making this hard on me. Ok here
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/images/bb/KevinLevrone22a.jpg)
(http://www.okbodybuilding.com/blog2/images/HAnds_most_muscular.jpg)
I just through this in ::)
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What about this poor bastard? Face says it all.
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thread ova
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no skin
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Aw goddammit Hulk and ND stay the fuck out.
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Good pic Hulkster. How can ND even argue that with a straight face?
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Levrones MMpose line is legend, but hardness? There is no contest.
(http://www.learn-bodybuilding.com/images/bb/KevinLevrone22a.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
Palumbos most muscular pose lacks in the muscle full roundness. And still Paco looks harder than Palumbo. Pacos legs cut is way deeper.
(http://www.okbodybuilding.com/blog2/images/HAnds_most_muscular.jpg)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
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Seriously, Thats the real answer.
I cant talk about it in here.
But I can give a hint to all the getbigger.
HE HAS NEVER SHRINKED(Like Phil Heath, Melvin...etc) OR OVER BLOATED(Like Kamali) MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
Any drug abuser can do it? Think about it. ;)
maybe he just never comes off :D
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maybe he just never comes off :D
And he owns kidney and liver of iron no? ;D
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And he owns kidney and liver of iron no? ;D
IMO, one can be on good doses of testosterone for years no problem
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IMO, one can be on good doses of testosterone for years no problem
Good dose of test is not a mega dose like you guys imagine no? ;)
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What about this guy :)
(http://www.markus-ruhl.com/xtcshop_dt/images/product_images/popup_images/187_0.jpg)
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Good dose of test is not a mega dose like you guys imagine no? ;)
a guy on another board, RazorRipped, said he got up to 7 grams a week of AAS with some other guys for a study and that it was completely useless and painfull.
here is what I think Paco does
-GH year round 8-10 IU per day
-2g test a week
-Insulin, whatever protocol he wants to use
I don't think it would fuck anyone's liver or kidney
maybe prostate problems but Paco is never bloated so he must keep his estrogens in controle
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What about this guy :)
(http://www.markus-ruhl.com/xtcshop_dt/images/product_images/popup_images/187_0.jpg)
I say Hardest.
Not biggest. And Markus hardness is way more inferior than Kevin, Branch and Palumbo.
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a guy on another board, RazorRipped, said he got up to 7 grams a week of AAS with some other guys for a study and that it was completely useless and painfull.
here is what I think Paco does
-GH year round 8-10 IU per day
-2g test a week
-Insulin, whatever protocol he wants to use
I don't think it would fuck anyone's liver or kidney
maybe prostate problems but Paco is never bloated so he must keep his estrogens in controle
Hahahahahahahhahahaha!
I want to show this to him!
He would say he wish he had that much money and good promised future which motivate him to use them. ;D
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Good pic Hulkster. How can ND even argue that with a straight face?
beause he's in delusion land..
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beause he's in delusion land..
Leave The king Ronnie.
But when we talk about deep cuts and hardness of Pacos legs. No humanbeing can surpass him for now.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
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Leave The king Ronnie.
But when we talk about deep cuts and hardness of Pacos legs. No humanbeing can surpass him for now.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
pacos only good pose
doesnt look too good in any other pose i see on this thread
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pacos only good pose
doesnt look too good in any other pose i see on this thread
I didnt say Paco is the best BBer.
I have just said the hardest MMpose ever seen. Thats it. ;)
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paco is hard but his chest is almost sunken in ???
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Hahahahahahahhahahaha!
I want to show this to him!
He would say he wish he had that much money and good promised future which motivate him to use them. ;D
tell him he is Stavios Approved ! 8)
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What about Hidetada Yamagishi
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SH__roLFlkI/AAAAAAAAB3U/atz-yNmB5Vs/s400/Hidetada+Yamagishi+_45.jpg) (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/138/322768679_1875658bba.jpg?v=0)
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What about Hidetada Yamagishi
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rDNyQdDXib8/SH__roLFlkI/AAAAAAAAB3U/atz-yNmB5Vs/s400/Hidetada+Yamagishi+_45.jpg) (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/138/322768679_1875658bba.jpg?v=0)(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
Hidetadas hardness is inferior than Kevin. He is hard.
But not FREAKY HARD like Paco
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paco is hard but his chest is almost sunken in ???
Again, I said Hardest MMpose. ;)
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put the dick down kyomu.... please... you are becoming bigbobs... :'(
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tell him he is Stavios Approved ! 8)
He needs more approval of judges and many fans. Not you only ,my friend. ;)
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Again, I said Hardest MMpose. ;)
i agree with that
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pacos only good pose
Not from the same contest, but he looks great here
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Not from the same contest, but he looks great here
He was hevier in this pic.
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Yet another belly button bigger than dick...
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Hidetadas hardness is inferior than Kevin. He is hard.
But not FREAKY HARD like Paco
How dare you go against a fellow asian! >:(
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Great conditioning...........b ut man that is one ugly physique. Terrible shape/structure.
Especially the leg development. Just not pleasing to the eye at all.
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Unreal. Just Unreal....
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
Who was harder than this? NOBODY.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3885_PVFZKWZRVY.jpg)
why?!.. haven't you seen these shots before!!..
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(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
I'm not sure that's a good look.
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why?!.. haven't you seen these shots before!!..
Nasser is a monster and my favourite.
The hardness of the Most muscular pose of these guys are similar.
But when it comes to legs hardness..........Paco wins for country miles.
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Nasser is a monster and my favourite.
The hardness of the Most muscular pose of these guys are similar.
But when it comes to legs hardness..........Paco wins for country miles.
i am with you that paco is hard as rock here but the "shape" of nasser's legs are much better.. paco's legs may be a little harder but they don't look as good or as big as nasser's..
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(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Andreas%20Munzer/AndreasMunzer22.jpg)
(http://imagesforum.doctissimo.fr/mesimages/3485148/ultra%20sec.jpg)
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i am with you that paco is hard as rock here but the "shape" of nasser's legs are much better.. paco's legs may be a little harder but they don't look as good or as big as nasser's..
Yeah, When it comes to the muscle volume with quality, Nasser is the vice president after the king Ronnie.
But, if we talk about super crazy hardness, Paco or The legendary Adreas Munzer.
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Paco lifts weights in his spare time.
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difference is that andi also had great shape and deep cuts
paco has more size though
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hey someone put up art atwoods pose. i no not the greatest sym but freaky had for that size
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Paco lifts weights in his spare time.
When he is not doing gym work and workout, He is eating and chatting with us in the bar or sleeping in his house. And hardly go out.
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difference is that andi also had great shape and deep cuts
paco has more size though
Both are my idols.
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hey someone put up art atwoods pose. i no not the greatest sym but freaky had for that size
Yeah! We are talking about hardness and freakness of MM pose!
Atwood was really freak! But when it comes to the hardness, he was not soft,but not super hard eighter.
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Both are my idols.
Have they ever been on a stage together? Andi had good size in the end, would have been quite a posedown.
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Have they ever been on a stage together? Andi had good size in the end, would have been quite a posedown.
Nah. Paco was still young amateur. He was a fan of Munzer.
If he takes a look at this thread, he would love it.
I am really sorry that Munzer died. I wanted to see the battle of Most muscular pose of Paco vs Munzer....
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Yeah, When it comes to the muscle volume with quality, Nasser is the vice president after the king Ronnie.
But, if we talk about super crazy hardness, Paco or The legendary Adreas Munzer.
rinnie's quads are massive and thick but you have to look at them without looking at his tiny calves as they destroy the over all proportional of his legs..
so i belive nasser is the president now (great upper legs + great lower legs) ;D
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kyomu what does Paco say about his muscle shape?
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rinnie's quads are massive and thick but you have to look at them without looking at his tiny calves as they destroy the over all proportional of his legs..
so i belive nasser is the president now (great upper legs + great lower legs) ;D
Mmm. I still think this is still country miles aways from Nasser.
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kyomu what does Paco say about his muscle shape?
He is not Kamali. ;D
He admits that he doesnt have good proportion.
But, he always says that the american judges ignore the mass and condition too much.
He dont say he could win. But he thinks that his place is too low.
I am highly agreed with him.
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Mmm. I still think this is still country miles aways from Nasser.
i dont think so :P
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i dont think so :P
This thread is about Most muscular pose.
Its not about who is better.
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Paco have just called me now.
He was 121kg.
The best shape of his life.
I wonder how many contenders can be 121kg with this % of Bodyfat???????
NOBODY.
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kyomu? You better start a truce thread now while you still have time. ;D
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This thread is about Most muscular pose.
Its not about who is better.
sure man.. i was just playing with you :) dont worry i wont ruin your thread, it was just a passing joke..
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kyomu? You better start a truce thread now while you still have time. ;D
;D
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lol, "Just got off the phone with Paco"
This whole thread seems eerily familiar....... :-\
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(http://www.builtreport.com/munzer/009.jpg)
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lol, "Just got off the phone with Paco"
This whole thread seems eerily familiar....... :-\
While other people say lie, I am really known for my being real. in Getbig
Paco called me from Florida before taking his airplane to Tronto to write about him in many forums.
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While other people say lie, I am really known for my being real. in Getbig
Paco called me from Florida before taking his airplane to Tronto to write about him in many forums.
I believe you.....
How much does Paco weigh in the off-season?
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I believe you.....
How much does Paco weigh in the off-season?
In this off, he was 125kg. Quite lean.
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In this off, he was 125kg. Quite lean.
Interesting.....
Does Paco ever get much heavier than that? What was his heaviest weight ever?
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Interesting.....
Does Paco ever get much heavier than that? What was his heaviest weight ever?
Around 135kg, he has been one time.
And he says he dont want to be that again in his life.
According to him, staying that weight in summer was pure torture. ;D
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Around 135kg, he has been one time.
And he says he dont want to be that again in his life.
According to him, staying that weight in summer was pure torture. ;D
Beast!
How tall is paco again?
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Beast!
How tall is paco again?
174cm
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174cm
Oh ok, that's a bit shorter than i thought.
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Oh ok, that's a bit shorter than i thought.
Thats why he is a beast. Not so tall and super shredded with 121kg.
Wide waist bbers are heavy. But even thinking about it, 121kg with 174cm is a beast.
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Troy Alves has payed his dues. Paco is spanish etc.
Thats the diffrence sadly.
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Troy Alves has payed his dues. Paco is spanish etc.
Thats the diffrence sadly.
What Alves did for that exactly?
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Hahahahahahahhahahaha!
I want to show this to him!
He would say he wish he had that much money and good promised future which motivate him to use them. ;D
Either you are playing the fool or are the fool, being duped by Paco.
You are saying Paco is living in absolute poverty and has no money at all basically.
I know many guys living paycheck to paycheck using growth, bodybuilders always find a way. An IFBB Pro gym owner with no doubt good access to gear can't afford that? GTFO! I have a friend working as a bouncer in Spain using more than that.
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Either you are playing the fool or are the fool, being duped by Paco.
You are saying Paco is living in absolute poverty and has no money at all basically.
I know many guys living paycheck to paycheck using growth, bodybuilders always find a way. An IFBB Pro gym owner with no doubt good access to gear can't afford that? GTFO! I have a friend working as a bouncer in Spain using more than that.
that, and also the cycle I posted wasn't super expensive too
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that, and also the cycle I posted wasn't super expensive too
Yes, you and me both know that's not an expensive cycle by pro bb standards. Do you think Kyomu is playing stupid or what? I can't really tell. ??? :D
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Yes, you and me both know that's not an expensive cycle by pro bb standards. Do you think Kyomu is playing stupid or what? I can't really tell. ??? :D
Maybe Paco just lies to him.
Honnestly, I can understand some pros are hyper responders.
but hyper responders I know still take those type of dosages to compete at the Canadian Nationals ;D
so a Pro who have about 70 lbs of shredded lean muscle mass over them would AT LEAST take the same dosage even if he is a crazy super mega hyper responder !
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that, and also the cycle I posted wasn't super expensive too
I really cant talk about this theme in here.
Another hint,
He always say,
" I am really realistic. I cant win Mr.O never ever. Many people has fvcked up their health in front of me. And I cant do this forvever. I have my life. My life is not only bbing."
"If i could win several titles or Mr.O,I would have retired from pro."
And also, several juice head visit him each month to train them and he rejects them with strong hate.
He is really fed up with many bbers because of their talking and caring about juice all the time.
Thats why i can hang around with him and mostly we are talking about non-bodybuilding topics like Getbigers.
If you guys know him, you guys will like him a lot.
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Maybe Paco just lies to him.
Honnestly, I can understand some pros are hyper responders.
but hyper responders I know still take those type of dosages to compete at the Canadian Nationals ;D
so a Pro who have about 70 lbs of shredded lean muscle mass over them would AT LEAST take the same dosage even if he is a crazy super mega hyper responder !
Paco was also a hyper responder to gynecomastia development. :D
The point Kyomu makes about Paco never even bloating actually points to him using more drugs, instead of less IMO. You know, diuretics year round, thyroid and GH same of course, etc. No one gets that type of development along with the paper thin skin if he can't even afford a little GH. It takes a bit more than genetics and hard training.
Anyway, regardless of what he takes if Kyomu really thinks your cycle was expensive then he is in the dark in a bad way.
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I really cant talk about this theme in here.
Another hint,
He always say,
" I am really realistic. I cant win Mr.O never ever. Many people has fvcked up their health in front of me. And I cant do this forvever. I have my life. My life is not only bbing."
"If i could win several titles or Mr.O,I would have retired from pro."
And also, several juice head visit him each month to train them and he rejects them with strong hate.
He is really fed up with many bbers because of their talking and caring about juice all the time.
Thats why i can hang around with him and mostly we are talking about non-bodybuilding topics like Getbigers.
If you guys know him, you guys will like him a lot.
yeah I understand bro, but it's not because he doesn't like to talk about juice all the time that he takes low doses.
I never talk about juice or training in general other than on the boards, and it's a big part of my life/routine.
I just don't want to bore people with those shits.
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Only way to know the truth is meeting me.
And I can tell you guys.
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Only way to know the truth is meeting me.
And I can tell you guys.
anytime you come to montreal, I am always open for a coffey talk 8)
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:o
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/richgaspari10.jpg)
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:o
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/richgaspari10.jpg)
that's hard as fuck
that's how I'll look when I'll get to 180-185 lbs and start taking 2 anadrols per day :D
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I really cant talk about this theme in here.
Another hint,
He always say,
" I am really realistic. I cant win Mr.O never ever. Many people has fvcked up their health in front of me. And I cant do this forvever. I have my life. My life is not only bbing."
"If i could win several titles or Mr.O,I would have retired from pro."
And also, several juice head visit him each month to train them and he rejects them with strong hate.
He is really fed up with many bbers because of their talking and caring about juice all the time.
Thats why i can hang around with him and mostly we are talking about non-bodybuilding topics like Getbigers.
If you guys know him, you guys will like him a lot.
So winning Mr O he would have retired? It's better to sacrifice health for really poor placing instead? It makes no sense. An O winner capitalizing on his competitive success by continuing makes more sense than competing for NOTHING, like Paco is doing. Please explain his motivation to me as I can't understand your reasoning.
I also understand the not wanting to talk about drugs all the time. Once you've sourced your own stuff and loaded and pinned your own gear each and every morning for years on end you probably get fed up with it and want to just forget about it.
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So winning Mr O he would have retired? It's better to sacrifice health for really poor placing instead? It makes no sense. An O winner capitalizing on his competitive success by continuing makes more sense than competing for NOTHING, like Paco is doing. Please explain his motivation to me as I can't understand your reasoning.
I also understand the not wanting to talk about drugs all the time. Once you've sourced your own stuff and loaded and pinned your own gear each and every morning for years on end you probably get fed up with it and want to just forget about it.
As you said, if you keep on losing contests and would you keep on using high dosis of gears?
But, you keep on making money from sponsor.So You wont quit. But maybe you will find a way to establish both your health and career.
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Very longer than the others. I promise you. ;)
paco looked like the definition of an all drugs bodybuilder, kyomu. someitmes you should listen to what your eyes are telling you, not what your friend has tried to get you to believe.
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paco looked like the definition of an all drugs bodybuilder, kyomu. someitmes you should listen to what your eyes are telling you, not what your friend has tried to get you to believe.
Yeah yeah....
I am a 39 years old a company owner which is 8 years old.
And i have done 2 business more before and met several fraud in my life.
And I have been in bbing since 1988.
And I am innocent and ignorant like small kid......according to you.... :-\
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paco just looks awful
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Yeah yeah....
I am a 39 years old a company owner which has 8 years old.
And i have done 2 business more before and met several fraud in my life.
And I have been in bbing since 1988.
And I am innocent and ignorant like small kid......according to you.... :-\
damn u almost 40? ;D
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that's hard as fuck
that's how I'll look when I'll get to 180-185 lbs and start taking 20 Halo's per day :D
fixed bro
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damn u almost 40? ;D
Yep, And my body is strongest in my life. 8)
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I just remembered that Kyomu often says you can't get ripped without insulin (strange claim IMO). Paco must be a big insulin abuser. :D
Just busting you balls Kyomu :D
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I just remembered that Kyomu often says you can't get ripped without insulin (strange claim IMO). Paco must be a big insulin abuser. :D
Just busting you balls Kyomu :D
I dont know. ;D
No, I said you cant get hard without GH.
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k has always mentioned that it's hard for naturals to compete with guys who just use GH/slin while not using anabolics..
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Yeah yeah....
I am a 39 years old a company owner which is 8 years old.
And i have done 2 business more before and met several fraud in my life.
And I have been in bbing since 1988.
And I am innocent and ignorant like small kid......according to you.... :-\
no, according to me = you believe what paco tells you without takign a step back and thinking about it on your own.
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bodybuilders of paco's status are amongst biggest liars, they probably don't even trust themselves
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no, according to me = you believe what paco tells you without takign a step back and thinking about it on your own.
The funny thing is: I totaly say nothing about him. Nothing!
I didnt say he was natural nor hard juicer.
Totaly nothing!
So, what did i say, according to you?
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The funny thing is: I totaly say nothing about him. Nothing!
I didnt say he was natural nor hard juicer.
Totaly nothing!
So, what did i say, according to you?
I wonder for how long Pacos kidney will hold up
Very longer than the others. I promise you. ;)
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Very longer than the others. I promise you. ;)
Very longer can be
1, Natural
2, Hard user but very tough kidney he has
3, Very few amount of juice he uses
One of these three can be and I didnt say which. ;)
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Very longer can be
1, Natural
2, Hard user but very tough kidney he has
3, Very few amount of juice he uses
One of these three can be and I didnt say which. ;)
1.we know hes not natural
2.theres no way possible you would know about his kidneys constitution
that leaves only one
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1.we know hes not natural
2.theres no way possible you would know about his kidneys constitution
that leaves only one
Do you still do coke?
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1.we know hes not natural
2.theres no way possible you would know about his kidneys constitution
that leaves only one
There are a type guy who can be alchoholic and another type of guy who cant be.
One has strong kidney and another dont have.
Its a genetic matter.
So, No2 exists too no? ;D
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There are a type guy who can be alchoholic and another type of guy who cant be.
One has strong kidney and another dont have.
Its a genetic matter.
So, No2 exists too no? ;D
theres no way possible that you could know that pacos kidney is stronger tha anybody else kidney.
so no.2 isnt possible to be what you meant.
you meant number 3.
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theres no way possible that you could know that pacos kidney is stronger tha anybody else kidney.
so no.2 isnt possible to be what you meant.
you meant number 3.
I have a crystal ball right beside me. ;D
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Seriously, Thats the real answer.
I cant talk about it in here.
But I can give a hint to all the getbigger.
HE HAS NEVER SHRINKED(Like Phil Heath, Melvin...etc) OR OVER BLOATED(Like Kamali) MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
Any drug abuser can do it? Think about it. ;)
One simple justification….
Steroids all the year around 8)
Great hardness, shitty physique ;)
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Do you still do coke?
::)
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Unreal. Just Unreal....
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
quote u this is awesome
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Unreal. Just Unreal....
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
Who was harder than this? NOBODY.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3885_PVFZKWZRVY.jpg)
That dude is unreal for sure. Whats his weakness?
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:o
(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/richgaspari10.jpg)
Best/hardest MM Ive seen in this thread
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I think Kyomu has become Paco's puppet :-\
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Thats why he is a beast. Not so tall and super shredded with 121kg.
Wide waist bbers are heavy. But even thinking about it, 121kg with 174cm is a beast.
Are you 174 cm as well Kyo?
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Are you 174 cm as well Kyo?
No, I am 171cm
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One simple justification….
Steroids all the year around 8)
Great hardness, shitty physique ;)
A question.
Are you proud of yourself being a natural bber?
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No, I am 171cm
How does the world look down there? ;D
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How does the world look down there? ;D
Here in Spain, I am almost average.
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Quote from: Van_Bilderass on April 19, 2009, 11:42:40 AM
I just remembered that Kyomu often says you can't get ripped without insulin (strange claim IMO). Paco must be a big insulin abuser.
Just busting you balls Kyomu
I dont know.
No, I said you cant get hard without GH.
Kyomu do you really think you cant get hard without GH? If you think that your the most follish getbigger I have ever met.I didnt use GH and I got hard as nails.I never used GH because I have a large rib cage like ART Atwood, and if you have a big bone structure GH AND INSULIN MAKES YOUR MIDESCTION HUGE.I used gh once for 6 weeks on my off season 10 months before a show, and it got me lean, but my midsection started to get really thick.I was only using 3 iu's of Serostim.Some guys like King Kamali, Art, need to stay away from Insulin and GH.Unless you want a thick midsection
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Quote from: Van_Bilderass on April 19, 2009, 11:42:40 AM
I just remembered that Kyomu often says you can't get ripped without insulin (strange claim IMO). Paco must be a big insulin abuser.
Just busting you balls Kyomu
I dont know.
No, I said you cant get hard without GH.
Kyomu do you really think you cant get hard without GH? If you think that your the most follish getbigger I have ever met.I didnt use GH and I got hard as nails.I never used GH because I have a large rib cage like ART Atwood, and if you have a big bone structure GH AND INSULIN MAKES YOUR MIDESCTION HUGE.I used gh once for 6 weeks on my off season 10 months before a show, and it got me lean, but my midsection started to get really thick.I was only using 3 iu's of Serostim.Some guys like King Kamali, Art, need to stay away from Insulin and GH.Unless you want a thick midsection
Of course i believe what you say. I saw very hard natural 15years ago.
And if i believe that i would be a natural bber who try to compete against juicer no? ;D
When I say that, its a general view. Not absolute.
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A question.
Are you proud of yourself being a natural bber?
I am very very very very very pround of being a Natty and I will never use steriods in my life ;D
wait for my updated pics to be taken this coming Thursday ;)
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I am very very very very very pround of being a Natty and I will never use steriods in my life ;D
wait for my updated pics to be taken this coming Thursday ;)
As I thought. :-\
I am natty. But I am not proud of it and I dont use it as a excuse to be smaller than juicers.
Plus, I will never talk shit about juicers.
Its a matter of choice.
You will compete in The cart racing or F1.
You dont know the effort of Paco. I am really sure that he did 1000efforts more than you. He started bbing since 16years old and he is 38now.
He competed as natty first 3-5 years. To achive his super hard shredded condition, he didnt drink water 3 days and his tongue parted and blood coming out. That happens several times.
You guys always talk shit if you see somebody very hard with saying "all drugs" or something. If only using drug and its depends on long term use or dose. Ronnie should be the worst juicer ever.
And Melvin anthony or Kamali look soft. That means they use less than Paco? Since when you are that much expert of drug? You are a natty no?
They are doing their things. We(natty) are doing our things.
So leave them alone and dont attack them to justify your poor muscle growth.
You look like you are an insecure typical natty bber who try to compete against the juicer saying "We natty are doing more effort than juicers and pros, and we are superior!". Yet, You dont try to compete against them onstage.
Just shut up and train hard and eat. And dont think about others. Its not important.
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joe means
just ask stunt
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Looks great actually.
True FREAK.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3865_TCTQGVGZIA.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3877_SMXPTBEQWY.jpg)
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As I thought. :-\
I am natty. But I am not proud of it and I dont use it as a excuse to be smaller than juicers.
Plus, I will never talk shit about juicers.
Its a matter of choice.
You will compete in The cart racing or F1.
You dont know the effort of Paco. I am really sure that he did 1000efforts more than you. He started bbing since 16years old and he is 38now.
He competed as natty first 3-5 years. To achive his super hard shredded condition, he didnt drink water 3 days and his tongue parted and blood coming out. That happens several times.
You guys always talk shit if you see somebody very hard with saying "all drugs" or something. If only using drug and its depends on long term use or dose. Ronnie should be the worst juicer ever.
And Melvin anthony or Kamali look soft. That means they use less than Paco? Since when you are that much expert of drug? You are a natty no?
They are doing their things. We(natty) are doing our things.
So leave them alone and dont attack them to justify your poor muscle growth.
You look like you are an insecure typical natty bber who try to compete against the juicer saying "We natty are doing more effort than juicers and pros, and we are superior!". Yet, You dont try to compete against them onstage.
Just shut up and train hard and eat. And dont think about others. Its not important.
kyomew you are a goof
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Serge looks the best out of all those guys.
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kyomew you are a goof
Of what?
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I like Pacos physique, he looks very cool..
as for the hardness etc. Its MOSTLY genetics and THEN drugs.
Paco is a veiny, shredded guy. :)
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:o
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I like Pacos physique, he looks very cool..
as for the hardness etc. Its MOSTLY genetics and THEN drugs.
Paco is a veiny, shredded ####. :)
;)
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Of what?
of many, many facets
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Paco gets dry and props to him for doing so but fuck he is stupid.......he stopped his water intake for 3 days!
Guess risking his life was worth the plastic trophy.......oh wait he didn't get one ::)
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As I thought. :-\
I am natty. But I am not proud of it and I dont use it as a excuse to be smaller than juicers.
Plus, I will never talk shit about juicers.
Its a matter of choice.
You will compete in The cart racing or F1.
You dont know the effort of Paco. I am really sure that he did 1000efforts more than you. He started bbing since 16years old and he is 38now.
He competed as natty first 3-5 years. To achive his super hard shredded condition, he didnt drink water 3 days and his tongue parted and blood coming out. That happens several times.
You guys always talk shit if you see somebody very hard with saying "all drugs" or something. If only using drug and its depends on long term use or dose. Ronnie should be the worst juicer ever.
And Melvin anthony or Kamali look soft. That means they use less than Paco? Since when you are that much expert of drug? You are a natty no?
They are doing their things. We(natty) are doing our things.
So leave them alone and dont attack them to justify your poor muscle growth.
You look like you are an insecure typical natty bber who try to compete against the juicer saying "We natty are doing more effort than juicers and pros, and we are superior!". Yet, You dont try to compete against them onstage.
Just shut up and train hard and eat. And dont think about others. Its not important.
I am natty. But I am not proud of it
This your own problem..
You dont know the effort of Paco. I am really sure that he did 1000efforts more than you. He started bbing since 16years old and he is 38now.
Maybe..
He competed as natty first 3-5 years. To achive his super hard shredded condition:
Show me what he achaived in 5 years of Natural training
he didnt drink water 3 days and his tongue parted and blood coming out. That happens several times.
Is he still alive..?
So leave them alone and dont attack them to justify your poor muscle growth
I have never attack any juicer about his steroids dosages.. if any one take 0.000001 mg\w of any AAS then he is a juicer like the any other juicer no matter Pro or not..
You look like you are an insecure typical natty bber who try to compete against the juicer saying "We natty are doing more effort than juicers and pros, and we are superior!". Yet, You dont try to compete against them onstage.
I didn’t start bodybuilding to compete neither to take steroids. It just my hoppy and I am enjoying it naturally and every day I challenge myself to see how far I can go naturally
Just shut up and train hard and eat. And dont think about others. Its not important
Calm down I did not intend to say anything bad about your friend, I was justifying why he has never shrunk as you stated before.. ;)
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Calm down I did not intend to say anything bad about your friend, I was justifying why he has never shrunk as you stated before.. ;)
You are entitled to your opinion and you can criticize him whatever you want if you are respecting him.
So, You dont need to call him a "Shitty" physic.
And also, if you think that the reason why he dont shrink is using gear all year around, you can say "I guess" or something more humble.
Then I or Paco could accept your opinion.
Imagine, if somebody skinny totaly ignorant about bbing say to you "You are juice head and you dont train like me.", How do you feel?
Or
If That skinny guy say "How can you be so big, look like you are juicing, what do you say?", How do you feel?
If you meet him in person, will you say shitty to him? Think about it.
I criticize his physic in front of him a lot. Thin pecs, wide waist..etc. But He knows that I have lots of respect and I am saying it to him in positive way.
And I know how you felt and wrote down your last post.
I respect you, so Please respect my friend.
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a hard mm, ky
not by the far the hardest ever
there are scads that are/were harder
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Looks great actually.
True FREAK.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3865_TCTQGVGZIA.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3877_SMXPTBEQWY.jpg)
i like his built.
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i like his built.
yes
but where
o where
is he going with all of this?
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yes
but where
o where
is he going with all of this?
So in your opinion, Mr.O is the only bber who has value huh?
Because the rest, where are they going?
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yes
but where
o where
is he going with all of this?
whats your point here? i dont get it.
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whats your point here? i dont get it.
He wants to say
"OK, he is good. But with this physic, there is no future."
Then i said
"Future? Whats the defenition of future?"
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So in your opinion, Mr.O is the only bber who has value huh?
Because the rest, where are they going?
no
just how is he going to apply this beoyond the posing dais?
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Paco looks pretty good in the side shots.
Any back shots?
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reminds one of fux
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no
just how is he going to apply this beoyond the posing dais?
your posts doesn't make any sense bro....seriously.
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to those who understand, they do...no offense
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to those who understand, they do...no offense
you sir are an idiot, and now you need to leave
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Unreal. Just Unreal....
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3896_ISCHVEQCNP.jpg)
Who was harder than this? NOBODY.
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3885_PVFZKWZRVY.jpg)
this guy should have win the show. there is no fucking way Troy beats him. it's a shitty line up to begin with. he might as well be number one
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this guy should have win the show. there is no fucking way Troy beats him. it's a shitty line up to begin with. he might as well be number one
these are the only photos he looks good in, all the other poses he has are just awful
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these are the only photos he looks good in, all the other poses he has are just awful
Wait
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3876_ZSVIMCOTIO.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7204_WDKLTYQLNU.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7206_LMQBJLGJLD.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7208_LSRSJNPQLT.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7213_VKWKLVJUJL.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7244_ZIXNIKLUUP.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7252_EJYRSZWDMJ.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7257_JUPRHBSIDU.jpg)
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Wait
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3876_ZSVIMCOTIO.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7204_WDKLTYQLNU.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7206_LMQBJLGJLD.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7208_LSRSJNPQLT.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7213_VKWKLVJUJL.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7244_ZIXNIKLUUP.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7252_EJYRSZWDMJ.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7257_JUPRHBSIDU.jpg)
how did paco do in that "stacked" line up?
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Wait
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q3876_ZSVIMCOTIO.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7204_WDKLTYQLNU.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7206_LMQBJLGJLD.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7208_LSRSJNPQLT.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7213_VKWKLVJUJL.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7244_ZIXNIKLUUP.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7252_EJYRSZWDMJ.jpg)
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_W5Q7257_JUPRHBSIDU.jpg)
Kyomu, I definitely respect your opinion but Paco looks horrible in most of those shots. He looks "OK" in some but horrible in others. You have much better shape yourself.
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Dennis James destroys everybody in this thread. ;D
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Kyomu, I definitely respect your opinion but Paco looks horrible in most of those shots. He looks "OK" in some but horrible in others. You have much better shape yourself.
You are right.
But I consider BBing as the total of three points.
Mass
Hardness
Proportion symmetry
His Mass was winner by far.
Hardness was winner by far.
Shape was like 13 place.
So, I dont say he is a winner. But top 3 yes.
P.S. thats why we say joke if we do "Fusion" before the contest, that will be good.
But, maybe we fail and we will make bad bone structure of Paco with my soft small muscle there. ;D
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j149/5CJ_2006/Dragonball%20Z/dbz_.gif)
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Kyomu, I saw the dragonball movie and wanted to kill myself afterward
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Kyomu, I saw the dragonball movie and wanted to kill myself afterward
When is your show, Mr Montreal?
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Kyomu, I saw the dragonball movie and wanted to kill myself afterward
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I cant even approach to the theatre.....
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I cant even approach to the theatre.....
No NY PRO for you Kyomu?
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No NY PRO for you Kyomu?
Since he come back from Tronto tomorrow, I am gonna clear up if I go or not.
I was going to Tronto with him after NY show. But since he had to go after Orland show... :-\
Cus, I dont spend 1000euros for only 4 days(Only keep accompany for Paco and come back to Barcelona). Its ridiculous.
If my trip duration is like 1 week is still OK.
But, If I hang around after with you guys or INSOMNIA, maybe I will stay more and I go there sure. ;D
I still dont know...
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Since he come back from Tronto tomorrow, I am gonna clear up if I go or not.
I was going to Tronto with him after NY show. But since he had to go after Orland show... :-\
Cus, I dont spend 1000euros for only 4 days(Only keep accompany for Paco and come back to Barcelona). Its ridiculous.
If my trip duration is like 1 week is still OK.
But, If I hang around after with you guys or INSOMNIA, maybe I will stay more and I go there sure. ;D
I still dont know...
kyomu
it will not end well
for your hero
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kyomu
it will not end well
for your hero
???
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???
for you
perhaps
yes
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for you
perhaps
yes
Please explain what you say.
I dont understand it at all.
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Please explain what you say.
I dont understand it at all.
you are realistic
in your hope of physique glory
and the level at which you pursue it
Paco
is not
In a way, he is inferior to you
actually, in many ways
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you are realistic
in your hope of physique glory
and the level at which you pursue it
Paco
is not
In a way, he is inferior to you
actually, in many ways
you talk with riddles man.
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you talk with riddles man.
???
???
???
??? :)
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you are realistic
in your hope of physique glory
and the level at which you pursue it
Paco
is not
In a way, he is inferior to you
actually, in many ways
A Taoistic poem from The book of Kuan Yin Tzu
"Not knowing the absolute reality(Tao) and Guessing about something is like shooting an arrow to something with your eyes coverd.
When we see gold,we imagine its high value.
When we see leather, we imagine its middle value.
When we see stone, we imagine its low value.
But the person who leave that thing know the real value of that thing."
If you dont understand the meaning of this poem,Please ask me.
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When is your show, Mr Montreal?
May 30th but chances are I won't do it, I am still behind in my prep
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A Taoistic poem from The book of Kuan Yin Tzu
"Not knowing the absolute reality(Tao) and Guessing about something is like shooting an arrow to something with your eyes coverd.
When we see gold,we imagine its high value.
When we see leather, we imagine its middle value.
When we see stone, we imagine its low value.
But the person who leave that thing know the real value of that thing."
If you dont understand the meaning of this poem,Please ask me.
value is in the eye of the beholder
friend kyomu
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you sir are an idiot, and now you need to leave
I only need water, food, 02
and thanks for calling me 'sir'
continue on
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value is in the eye of the beholder
friend kyomu
Being true to yourself is living well regardless of being juicer or not.
Paco seem like he is happy with his life. So,Its his way of living.
But,its not mine. I have mine and I am quite ok.
Each life is different and not to compare.
If you are true to be yourself and end up with being homeles or in prison, you are happy. Thats what i call the winner of life.
If you lie to yourself and end up with being rich and accomplish long life, you are unhappy.Thats what i call the loser of life.
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I would like to see a picture of the hardest and most muscular cock.
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A Taoistic poem from The book of Kuan Yin Tzu
"Not knowing the absolute reality(Tao) and Guessing about something is like shooting an arrow to something with your eyes coverd.
When we see gold,we imagine its high value.
When we see leather, we imagine its middle value.
When we see stone, we imagine its low value.
But the person who leave that thing know the real value of that thing."
If you dont understand the meaning of this poem,Please ask me.
see
teilhard de chardin
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I just got off the phone with Paco.
Wrong. I will drink a coffee with him this evening.
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Wrong. I will drink his cum this evening.
:o
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I would like to see a picture of the hardest and most muscular cock.
No surprise here folks
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No surprise here folks
Yes, Jamie has cock on the mind.........as per usual.
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(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/richgaspari10.jpg)
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(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/richgaspari10.jpg)
Looking more vascular than my cock.
Not necessarily bigger.
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(http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/richgaspari10.jpg)
Talk about overcompensating. Amazing results for a guy who had probably nothing going for him entering Bbing.
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Talk about overcompensating. Amazing results for a guy who had probably nothing going for him entering Bbing.
now is one of the top supp company owners
altho he does have major backers
and
most of his bb success
was achieved when he was just a kid, anyhow
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Wrong. I will drink a coffee with him this evening.
ky do you not own a rice cake company in spain?
how the hell did you ever come up with that combo?
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ky do you not own a rice cake company in spain?
how the hell did you ever come up with that combo?
My rice cakes have too much sugar. So, I eat them very few times for the quality controle. Thats it.
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My rice cakes have too much sugar. So, I eat them very few times for the quality controle. Thats it.
Kyomu, please write your opinion on the marriage thread. Thank you.
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Kyomu, please write your opinion on the marriage thread. Thank you.
Sorry,I couldnt find it out. Please show me the link