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A Warning To Those Resisting The New World Order....
So you thought you actually had rights in america...hahahahah
You thought your constitution was going to protect you?????...hahahaahah
You thought the police was for those "OTHER PEOPLE"...hahahaahaha
Pastor, Priest, Woman, Child, Pregnant, Elderly...NONE ARE EXEMPT FROM POLICE VIOLENCE
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JESUS CHRIST, speak on this you lousy sheeple fuckworts...
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JESUS CHRIST, speak on this you lousy sheeple fuckworts...
I'm not Jesus Christ, ...nor am I a lousy sheeple fuckwort, ...whatever that is, ... but I will comment.
It pretty much speaks for itself doesn't it? Another example of abuse of authority. We see it all the time.
It's not just cops, ...pretty much any megomaniacal prick with authority tends to abuse it.
When people dare to stand up for themselves or their rights, ...or dare to point out the errors of someones ways, megalomanical pricks with little pricks take punitive actions. We see it all the time, ...don't we?
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I'm not Jesus Christ, ...nor am I a lousy sheeple fuckwort, ...whatever that is, ... but I will comment.
It pretty much speaks for itself doesn't it? Another example of abuse of authority. We see it all the time.
It's not just cops, ...pretty much any megomaniacal prick with authority tends to abuse it.
When people dare to stand up for themselves or their rights, ...or dare to point out the errors of someones ways, megalomanical pricks with little pricks take punitive actions. We see it all the time, ...don't we?
YES Jag...some people who come into POWER often go corrupt (those with power who look to do right are either disposed of, suppressed or brough up on false charges and fired), but in this case these low intelligent pricks are following orders to make HELL of the lives of those who point out their rights or remind government of the constitution or who refuse the NWO with their maniacal plan to ID, Chip, Invade, Jail, Kill "dissenters"... It is all shameful.
These same cops (and enforcement agency personnel) will soon be unemployed as america sinks into further depression and I guarantee you as hard times and difficulty comes their way and they are VIOLATED, they will be the main ones who scream the LOUDEST and stand at the front of the protest parade/line about their constitutional rights...yet while they are and were working they care nothing about the constitutional rights of others.... (don't you love how when government officials are fired they suddenly write these 'TELL ALL BOOKS'...why didn't they write them while things were going good for them???)
It is a awkward world, especially in america, where the divisions between government and people is THEM AND US, where the division between military is THEM AND US, where the division between the police and people is THEM AND US, where the division between the rich and poor is THEM AND US...
So much division that it has brough about a mindset to not be concerned about the 'THEM' anymore becasue it is just 'US'. So the violations continue and become worst until eventually ALL are in the same pot being cooked by the same task master...
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Nothing new. No one gives a shit untill it happens to them. Probably going to have a million idiots saying , "he just should have let them inspect the car." Know your rights. Stand up for your rights. Fight for your rights or you WILL HAVE NO RIGHTS LEFT.
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To quote my kid, "OMG." What a moron. He refused to get out of his car. He should have gotten his dumb butt out of the car, let them search and go home. Geeze. ::)
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To quote my kid, "OMG." What a moron. He refused to get out of his car. He should have gotten his dumb butt out of the car, let them search and go home. Geeze. ::)
hey bum - I actually agree with you.
He could have also refused but when told he was being arrested he could have complied quickly and without being argumentative
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To quote my kid, "OMG." What a moron. He refused to get out of his car. He should have gotten his dumb butt out of the car, let them search and go home. Geeze. ::)
hahahahaha... to quote me reading your post OMG... ::)
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hey bum - I actually agree with you.
He could have also refused but when told he was being arrested he could have complied quickly and without being argumentative
since when does argumentative get you bloodied and beat sensless? oh wait, nevermind.
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since when does argumentative get you bloodied and beat sensless? oh wait, nevermind.
I only watched the video once but at one point they told him he was being arrested and he went to continue arguing (perhaps peacefully).
I'm not saying they are justified in what they did to him but I'm wondering if they ever asked him to get out of the car and he refused. It seems like he did refuse or he wouldn't have been sitting in the car for an hour.
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Given the mindset of a couple of you in this thread who've made excuses for the cops doing what they did to this man...it will be VERY EASY to implement the NWO in america. Most of you are either too stupid or are too scared to do anything but COMPLY. The pastor was giving you all an example of standing up for his and your rights...even if it meant getting abused in the process. Maybe all of you should watch those videos of your African American population in america standing up for their rights in the 60s against american government, cops and politicians who treated them so violently and fatally becasue they would not COMPLY. Now put yourself in the place of those African Americans ...will it take you being shot, water hosed, beaten, jailed, hanged before you wake up to what is happening around you??? Or are you all too ready and willing to DO AS YOU ARE TOLD??? At least the African Americans put up a fight...you are willingly going to your ENSLAVEMENT!!!!!
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hey bum - I actually agree with you.
He could have also refused but when told he was being arrested he could have complied quickly and without being argumentative
Yes,so it was a justified beating EXACTLY like the beating that Rodney King got.The differance?You wont see whites rioting if these cops dont get jailed.
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I only watched the video once but at one point they told him he was being arrested and he went to continue arguing (perhaps peacefully).
I'm not saying they are justified in what they did to him but I'm wondering if they ever asked him to get out of the car and he refused. It seems like he did refuse or he wouldn't have been sitting in the car for an hour.
I kinda sided with him at the point they were unwilling to have the dog show their cause. I'm totally against this checkpoint crap where everyone is assumed guilty for driving from point a to point b. It's too nazi-police state. It also sounds like they continued to torment him with a beating after the point he was under control. If the guy had any heart problems, he would be dead going through multiple and repeated tazers. This is all assuming the story is accurate. Would be much better to see the actual video.
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Need to see the video of the incident. It sounds pretty bad, but if he was resisting, then there is some justification.
What are these checkpoints? I am against checkpoints and random stops. These infringe upon our rights. Stops for reasonable suspicion are different.
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LOL he refused to answer the questions, refused to let them search, wouldnt get out of the car...LOL and you ppl are pissed at the cops? Look I understand hugo's point about check points but thats neither here nor there. This man refused police instructions, refused to answer questions, how else would you propose they got him out of the car? did you ppl stop to think that maybe the dog did alert to his trunk and perhaps they thought he may be a drug runner or worse? LOL ::) some of you ppl.
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That's right. Get out of the car. Let them search. Then file a complaint with whatever agency oversees them, call the media, etc.
This guy is an idiot. Sat in the car for an hour and refused to get out of the car. That's not how you fight the system, and he now has the scars to prove it.
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LOL he refused to answer the questions, refused to let them search, wouldnt get out of the car...LOL and you ppl are pissed at the cops? Look I understand hugo's point about check points but thats neither here nor there. This man refused police instructions, refused to answer questions, how else would you propose they got him out of the car? did you ppl stop to think that maybe the dog did alert to his trunk and perhaps they thought he may be a drug runner or worse? LOL ::) some of you ppl.
Then how come NOTHING was found???
Police claimed the dog alerted them to drugs or a dead body...come on!!! Geez
Get ready for the NWO...you all deserve it
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Then how come NOTHING was found???
Police claimed the dog alerted them to drugs or a dead body...come on!!! Geez
Get ready for the NWO...you all deserve it
first of all he said DRUGS or a dead body but nice spin...
My car got hit on in high school during a sweep with a dog through the parking lot, didnt find anything they found something that they said was a weed stem, very doubtful but that doesnt mean the dog didnt hit on my car at all.
FACT he refused to answer questions
FACT he refused to let them search
FACT he refused to get out of the car
LOL its ridiculous that ppl are upset at the cops for this.
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Every person that says, "Why object if you have nothing to hide?" will screech like a stuck pig when the authorities decide to classify as contraband things that they believe that they have a right to possess. (guns, steroids, King James Bibles...)
Or when the authorities make illegal certain activities that they believe they have the right to engage in. (protesting abuse, corporal punishment of your own children, using steroids under a doctor's supervision, being an annoying evangelist)
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I am against checkpoints and random stops. These infringe upon our rights.
that's exactly what these are.
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Every person that says, "Why object if you have nothing to hide?" will screech like a stuck pig when the authorities decide to classify as contraband things that they believe that they have a right to possess. (guns, steroids, King James Bibles...)
Or when the authorities make illegal certain activities that they believe they have the right to engage in. (protesting abuse, corporal punishment of your own children, using steroids under a doctor's supervision, being an annoying evangelist)
This alone should be deemed enough to be worthy of a good tasering! ;D
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LOL he refused to answer the questions, refused to let them search, wouldnt get out of the car...LOL and you ppl are pissed at the cops? Look I understand hugo's point about check points but thats neither here nor there. This man refused police instructions, refused to answer questions, how else would you propose they got him out of the car? did you ppl stop to think that maybe the dog did alert to his trunk and perhaps they thought he may be a drug runner or worse? LOL ::) some of you ppl.
yes it is.
and if the story is true, there was no reaction from the dog and a request to have the dog show probable cause was denied.
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FACT he refused to answer questions
FACT he refused to let them search
FACT he doesn't have to FACT he doesn't have to...
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FACT he doesn't have to FACT he doesn't have to...
This is true... It is within his legal rights to answer no questions.
The only questions you must answer is your name... You are legally required to identify yourself.
After that... you don't have to do jack.
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FACT he doesn't have to FACT he doesn't have to...
fact if the drug dog hit on his car it give the police probable cause and gives them the right to search his car if he refuses which he did then futher more refuses to get out of the car which he did what do you want the police to do?
here is a a question for you retards, if the dog hit on the trunk how could the guy in the drivers seat see everything the dog was doing to know that the dog didnt hit on his trunk? all the dog has to do is paw at the trunk and thats a hit...
You ppl are so fast to yell misconduct and so am I when the situation warrants it but this retard had it coming plain and simple.
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fact if the drug dog hit on his car it give the police probable cause and gives them the right to search his car if he refuses which he did then futher more refuses to get out of the car which he did what do you want the police to do?
here is a a question for you retards, if the dog hit on the trunk how could the guy in the drivers seat see everything the dog was doing to know that the dog didnt hit on his trunk? all the dog has to do is paw at the trunk and thats a hit...
You ppl are so fast to yell misconduct and so am I when the situation warrants it but this retard had it coming plain and simple.
Except the dog didn't do that did it? Even when requested by a supervisor?
It was a pissing contest plain & simple and the cops wanted to prove they had bigger dicks.
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fact if the drug dog hit on his car it give the police probable cause and gives them the right to search his car if he refuses which he did then futher more refuses to get out of the car which he did what do you want the police to do?
here is a a question for you retards, if the dog hit on the trunk how could the guy in the drivers seat see everything the dog was doing to know that the dog didnt hit on his trunk? all the dog has to do is paw at the trunk and thats a hit...
You ppl are so fast to yell misconduct and so am I when the situation warrants it but this retard had it coming plain and simple.
dude, if the story is true, the dog didn't hit his car and they refused to show that the dog would detect anything. In other words, they just made it up as was apparent when he didn't get busted for drugs or anything else.
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Some of you guys seem to embrace a police state.
This a checkpoint that has border patrol agents working it. It's 40 miles from the border on a road that doesn't intersect the border. If they want to catch illegals they should be at the border, no?
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have to even give his name if he doesn't want to and it was a RANDOM stop, there was NO SUSPICION to pull him over.
During the stop, Agent Gilmore admitted he knew who the driver was & all three agents told him he wasn't being detained. Nonetheless, these facts didn't stop the agents from refusing to allow him to go about his lawful business, choosing instead to escalate the encounter by requesting that he move to secondary inspection for more intensive scrutiny absent his consent or any articuable suspicion.
This guy is the king. He is very well aware of his rights and these patrol agents KNOW what they are doing is bullshit or they would have beat his ass to a pulp if they had the legal authority to do so.
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This a checkpoint that has border patrol agents working it. It's 40 miles from the border on a road that doesn't intersect the border. If they want to catch illegals they should be at the border, no?
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have to even give his name if he doesn't want to and it was a RANDOM stop, there was NO SUSPICION to pull him over.
This guy is the king. He is very well aware of his rights and these patrol agents KNOW what they are doing is bullshit or they would have beat his ass to a pulp if they had the legal authority to do so.
somebody, maybe you, posted some really good shit a while ago about what to do and say in encounters with law enforcement. Do you remember that? If so can you bump that or post it again? I usually remember threads pretty well but can't find that one.
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somebody, maybe you, posted some really good shit a while ago about what to do and say in encounters with law enforcement. Do you remember that? If so can you bump that or post it again? I usually remember threads pretty well but can't find that one.
Yeah, I'll find it tomarrow though, Im going to bed soon bro. If you wanna bump it, you're more than welcome.
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Except the dog didn't do that did it? Even when requested by a supervisor?
It was a pissing contest plain & simple and the cops wanted to prove they had bigger dicks.
and you know this how, again sitting in the drivers seat you cannot see a dog right behind your trunk so how would he have seen if the dog did or didnt?
dude, if the story is true, the dog didn't hit his car and they refused to show that the dog would detect anything. In other words, they just made it up as was apparent when he didn't get busted for drugs or anything else.
they refused to show the dog hit again, that doesnt mean the dog didnt hit the first time does it? again sitting in the drivers seat you cannot see a dog right behind your trunk so how would he have seen if the dog did or didnt? plain and simple he couldnt have...yea b/c a dog has never hit on something and it turned up clean ::) shit happens they arent perfect.
Its their word against his and by his own admission he refused questioning, refused to let the search, refused to get out of the car...
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that was an awesome vid. Sound about like what the Pator tried to do but didn't have a camera documenting. In one encounter I had with border patrol back in the 80's I started to take pictures and they came freaking unglued on me. Said it was against the law for me to document anything. That was in Texas.
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and you know this how, again sitting in the drivers seat you cannot see a dog right behind your trunk so how would he have seen if the dog did or didnt?
they refused to show the dog hit again, that doesnt mean the dog didnt hit the first time does it? again sitting in the drivers seat you cannot see a dog right behind your trunk so how would he have seen if the dog did or didnt? plain and simple he couldnt have...yea b/c a dog has never hit on something and it turned up clean ::) shit happens they arent perfect.
Its their word against his and by his own admission he refused questioning, refused to let the search, refused to get out of the car...
bla bla bla...
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hey Tony, are you in law enforcement?
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hey Tony, are you in law enforcement?
nope just not an alarmist who over reacts, he had no reason to refuse the search after the dog hit on his car, no reason to refuse to get out of the car, again was it excessive maybe from his story yea it sounds like it but ill put dollars to donuts it didnt go down like he said.
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and you know this how, again sitting in the drivers seat you cannot see a dog right behind your trunk so how would he have seen if the dog did or didnt?
they refused to show the dog hit again, that doesnt mean the dog didnt hit the first time does it? again sitting in the drivers seat you cannot see a dog right behind your trunk so how would he have seen if the dog did or didnt? plain and simple he couldnt have...yea b/c a dog has never hit on something and it turned up clean ::) shit happens they arent perfect.
Its their word against his and by his own admission he refused questioning, refused to let the search, refused to get out of the car...
Tony seriously... Just so you know... drug K-9s rarely make mistakes... They didn't find anything, so I'd bet money the dog didn't hit on anything.
Drug dogs almost never fuck up.
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nope just not an alarmist who over reacts, he had no reason to refuse the search after the dog hit on his car, no reason to refuse to get out of the car, again was it excessive maybe from his story yea it sounds like it but ill put dollars to donuts it didnt go down like he said.
Whats your opinion on the above video? You don't have a problem with border patrol agents working 40 miles aways from the border, performing suspicionless stops on American citizens?
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Tony seriously... Just so you know... drug K-9s rarely make mistakes... They didn't find anything, so I'd bet money the dog didn't hit on anything.
Drug dogs almost never fuck up.
really my car got hit on in high school and they didnt find anything, we had locker sweeps in high school that always had a false hit or two...LOL again it happens
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Tony seriously... Just so you know... drug K-9s rarely make mistakes... They didn't find anything, so I'd bet money the dog didn't hit on anything.
exactly
more than likely it was just bullshit to harass the guy because he was exercising his rights.
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really my car got hit on in high school and they didnt find anything, we had locker sweeps in high school that always had a false hit or two...LOL again it happens
I'm telling you what a K-9 cop will say on the witness stand... I have seen it.
All K-9 patrolmen will testify on a witness stand that the dogs do not make mistakes... They can't have it both ways.
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tony types are the reason freedom fails.
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Whats your opinion on the above video? You don't have a problem with border patrol agents working 40 miles aways from the border, performing suspicionless stops on American citizens?
LOL i couldnt watch the entire thing if heard him say detained one more time i was gonna head butt the wall. Ill give you its odd that border patrol was 40 miles out but he said it was DHS which seems like it a plausable strategy to get illegals.
Are you saying that all check points are illegal? b/c thats really the only basis for bitching here that i see...honestly and if they are all illegal then why not bitch about the dwi check points?
tony types are the reason freedom fails.
LOL absolutely not bro
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LOL absolutely not bro
absolutely so bro and your ilk are the instrument of that and have been for many hundreds of years...
"Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide." And, "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty. But a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever."--John Adams
"Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin
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somebody, maybe you, posted some really good shit a while ago about what to do and say in encounters with law enforcement. Do you remember that? If so can you bump that or post it again? I usually remember threads pretty well but can't find that one.
::) {lol} Hugo, ...it's reply #5 in this very thread. Give youself a smack ;D
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::) {lol} Hugo, ...it's reply #5 in this very thread. Give youself a smack ;D
those are not the vids I was thinking of. They were not of the masked man. If I remember right those were posted later in the thread I was thinking of or in a thread a little after. I'm usually able to remember and search a thread pretty fast on something that was said but I'm not recalling good on this one. I did think that the border checkpoint vid bindare just posted was pretty darn good.
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those are not the vids I was thinking of. They were not of the masked man. If I remember right those were posted later in the thread I was thinking of or in a thread a little after. I'm usually able to remember and search a thread pretty fast on something that was said but I'm not recalling good on this one. I did think that the border checkpoint vid bindare just posted was pretty darn good.
oh, ...well in that case... nevermind. :)
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Some of you guys seem to embrace a police state.
This a checkpoint that has border patrol agents working it. It's 40 miles from the border on a road that doesn't intersect the border. If they want to catch illegals they should be at the border, no?
I'm pretty sure he doesn't have to even give his name if he doesn't want to and it was a RANDOM stop, there was NO SUSPICION to pull him over.
During the stop, Agent Gilmore admitted he knew who the driver was & all three agents told him he wasn't being detained. Nonetheless, these facts didn't stop the agents from refusing to allow him to go about his lawful business, choosing instead to escalate the encounter by requesting that he move to secondary inspection for more intensive scrutiny absent his consent or any articuable suspicion.
This guy is the king. He is very well aware of his rights and these patrol agents KNOW what they are doing is bullshit or they would have beat his ass to a pulp if they had the legal authority to do so.
Has it come down to this... having to carry a video camera with you at all times? :'(
Too bad the pastor didn't have a video camera with him huh? :-\
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for those of you who understand what is going on here, and some of you do, it is very important that you pass those values and understandings on to your kids. Otherwise they grow up to be Tony's and BB's and bye bye America and we don't want that :D
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Nothing new. No one gives a shit untill it happens to them. Probably going to have a million idiots saying , "he just should have let them inspect the car." Know your rights. Stand up for your rights. Fight for your rights or you WILL HAVE NO RIGHTS LEFT.
Fucking lib! ;D
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for those of you who understand what is going on here, and some of you do, it is very important that you pass those values and understandings on to your kids. Otherwise they grow up to be Tony's and BB's and bye bye America and we don't want that :D
LOL ::) right we'd much rather them grow up to be you?
So are check points illegal?
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LOL ::) right we'd much rather them grow up to be you?
So are check points illegal?
tony, if you bothered to watch the whwole thing you would have noticed that these DHS agents already knew who this guy was and that he is an American. So what was the purpose of detaining him and asking him over and over again if he is an American citizen? They said, 'we are looking for illegals.". Well, go to the fucking border and catch the ones that are attempting to cross.
This was clearly harrassment by some who think they can do whatever they want. The law also states that there must be a reason/suspicion for pulling someone over as was also stated in the video. If you can provide evidence to the contrary please let us know.
I personaly dont feel combfortable knowing I can be pulled over with zero explanation as to why I was singled out. If the police pull you over, they normally tell you why. Would you agree with being detained for no reason or explanation? What differnece does it make that he's being detained in his car or in the back of a cruiser when he didn't give them a reason to be stopped in the first place? Same shit.
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those are not the vids I was thinking of. They were not of the masked man. If I remember right those were posted later in the thread I was thinking of or in a thread a little after. I'm usually able to remember and search a thread pretty fast on something that was said but I'm not recalling good on this one. I did think that the border checkpoint vid bindare just posted was pretty darn good.
good memory. :) I'll post it after work.
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tony, if you bothered to watch the whwole thing you would have noticed that these DHS agents already knew who this guy was and that he is an American. So what was the purpose of detaining him and asking him over and over again if he is an American citizen? They said, 'we are looking for illegals.". Well, go to the fucking border and catch the ones that are attempting to cross.
This was clearly harrassment by some who think they can do whatever they want. The law also states that there must be a reason/suspicion for pulling someone over as was also stated in the video. If you can provide evidence to the contrary please let us know.
I personaly dont feel combfortable knowing I can be pulled over with zero explanation as to why I was singled out. If the police pull you over, they normally tell you why. Would you agree with being detained for no reason or explanation? What differnece does it make that he's being detained in his car or in the back of a cruiser when he didn't give them a reason to be stopped in the first place? Same shit.
I actually watched up to that point, and that was the second agent that came up not the first.
Im simply asking i dont know the law so are check points illegal?...they told him why
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I actually watched up to that point, and that was the second agent that came up not the first.
Im simply asking i dont know the law so are check points illegal?...they told him why
you're not addressing all the points that we are bringing up but that's ok. I agree with you sometime but on this we obviously have differing opinions.
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yur all abunch of fucking libs!
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you're not addressing all the points that we are bringing up but that's ok. I agree with you sometime but on this we obviously have differing opinions.
its not that im not addressing everything it just that i think thats the first thing that needs to be addressed is all. If they are constitutionally illegal then there no need to continue its wrong, if they are allowed under the law then when going through a check point you need to comply
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its not that im not addressing everything it just that i think thats the first thing that needs to be addressed is all. If they are constitutionally illegal then there no need to continue its wrong, if they are allowed under the law then when going through a check point you need to comply
fucking antiamerican libs...