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... it sucks just like any other form of cardio ;D
However, if I would do cardio, that's what I would do. The shorter the better.
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I'm considering buying that gymboss thing that johnny loves so much. I want to break up my cardio to tabata 1-2 a week, 5k 1-2 a week, and 1 longer run.
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I'm considering buying that gymboss thing that johnny loves so much. I want to break up my cardio to tabata 1-2 a week, 5k 1-2 a week, and 1 longer run.
5k isnt long enough? do you want to be small and skinny or are you into bodybuilding?
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I tried after johnnysogay said how great it was. I liked it.
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I knock out 5k too quickly as I get in better shape. Right now It is done in 24 minutes and in a month i'll be down to 21-22 minutes. I like to try and add a longer 45 minutes - 1hr run everyonce in awhile. Knock out like 7 miles or so.
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i'm not gonna go on a long winded rave but all i will say is that tabata is THE SHIT and you can do it with running and you can try doing it with burpees (and all the burpee variations) as well
my suggestion- start off with 4 rounds and add a round every week or two till you hit the full 8 rounds. nobody, NOBODY can do a true, full tabata the first time around
also, you need a gymboss timer to do tabata's, imho. reason being is that the gymboss keeps you from having to concentrate on watching a clock to know when to switch over from "jog/walk" to "sprint"- it just beeps/vibrates and you will know
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full tabata the first time around
I did. I wanted to die.
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my suggestion- start off with 4 rounds and add a round every week or two till you hit the full 8 rounds. nobody, NOBODY can do a true, full tabata the first time around
I accept your challenge
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I did. I wanted to die.
well that means that it works then ;D
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any good links to this technique you use in particular?
ta ta
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I did. I wanted to die.
I also did, I'm still sweating ;D
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well that means that it works then ;D
Not arguing that. Once I get the facilities to accommodate going back to it I am. Immediately. I'm an avid believer that sprints and running just tie my body parts in, make it flow better. I'm naturally a sprinter/runner so it only makes sense. I was doing tabata after my weights for about two months back in Florida about 6 months ago and I was super ripped. Only 175lbs but jesus I was ripped.
I also did, I'm still sweating ;D
HAH! Yeah, I would sweat forever after the sessions. Take a shower, dry off, and still be sweating.
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Johnny,
can you explain what a "Burpee" is?
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wth is tabata? It sounds like bad indian food.
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Johnny,
can you explain what a "Burpee" is?
It's what he does after pleasuring Rico.....sorry johnny, couldn't resist... ;D
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Johnny,
can you explain what a "Burpee" is?
a basic burpee
alot of cool versions of burpees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nomY3hM-e_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nomY3hM-e_4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy3R8nrfFts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy3R8nrfFts)
now the burpee by itself is sick..now imagine doing it TABATA STYLE
now, imagine doing a burpee circuit tabata style...that is with each "sprint" round you do a different type of burpee
any good links to this technique you use in particular?
ta ta
the scientific version of what the tabata protocol is
http://www.cbass.com/SEARCHOF.HTM (http://www.cbass.com/SEARCHOF.HTM)
a easier to digest version
http://www.tabataprotocol.com/ (http://www.tabataprotocol.com/)
remember, tabata is a theory not a specific exercise
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btw, get a gymboss timer
www.gymboss.com
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johnny you do tabata on an empty stomach , am i right?
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Fuck is a tabata?
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johnny you do tabata on an empty stomach , am i right?
3x a week
i just like to get it over with before breakfast ;D
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3x a week
i just like to get it over with before breakfast ;D
probably better for fat burning that way
probably also why you cant put on alot of muscle.
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probably also why you cant put on alot of muscle.
i was always of the lean ilk
not once have i ever heard a girl say "wow, you would look amazing if you had 20 more pounds of lean muscle mass"
;D
i've accepted the fact that i'm a ectomorph and embrace it
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I thought tabata was a fish ???
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how many of those burpees can you do in 20 seconds?
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Have used the Tabata method for years and suggesting it for just as long. Pretty simple stuff, 20 second max, 10 second rest and repeat cycle. Tabata does not slow or stop muscle development, but can work well while gaining muscle mass. All when done correctly, that is. Johnnynoname give some great examples as where to look for more info.
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Tabata does not slow or stop muscle development
any kind of cardio will have some kind of slowing effect to muscle growth. the more effective the cardio is for fat loss, the more effect it will have at slowing down muscle growth.
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Have used the Tabata method for years and suggesting it for just as long. Pretty simple stuff, 20 second max, 10 second rest and repeat cycle. Tabata does not slow or stop muscle development, but can work well while gaining muscle mass. All when done correctly, that is. Johnnynoname give some great examples as where to look for more info.
JPM,
In your opinion, what is the best time of day to do Tabata-style cardio for fat-loss?
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i was always of the lean ilk
not once have i ever heard a girl say "wow, you would look amazing if you had 20 more pounds of lean muscle mass"
;D
That doesn't mean it isn't true. You judge your appearance solely on what some girl thinks?
IMO 10 lbs would be good on you, give you a more three-dimensional look
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Cardio does not affect the rate of muscle growth when done with knowledge and fore thought. Example are high school/college football player, some who have to gain extra muscle weight anywhere from 10 to 20 lbs during off season. Heavy compound exercises in partner with cardio work. If foolish enough to do excessive cardio when trying to gain a little muscle, than that is your misfortune. As so many BB'ers find out, sooner or later.
Tabata can be an ideal method for anyone when applied the correct way. Really no logical need for 40 minute, or more, 4-5 times a week cardio. Not unless you are a well trained and class athlete who's sport calls for that type of training.
Can do Tabata any time of day, no special hour. And probably3 to 4 times a week at most. Good Luck.
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Did it today after arms; couldn't make it past 7x...too wiped out...brutal shit...
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Johnny/others who do tabata what are your thoughts on interval training. I like to mix up my runs by going on the treadmill and doing a 5 minute job warm up then running level 8.5 for 2 minutes followed by 1 minute recovery then 2 do minutes at 9 etc. all the way up to level 11 on the treadmill. Do you think this style of interval training is effective or is this tabata some sort of secret formula. Thanks.
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Did it today after arms; couldn't make it past 7x...too wiped out...brutal shit...
I was coughing up shit I never imagined I had in my lungs ;D
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I was coughing up shit I never imagined I had in my lungs ;D
Yeah...you think...a few minutes and it is over but they are LONG. I truly couldn't get the 8x 20 second run....
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Tabata is interval training, but just one version of many. If Tabata suits you, than great. If not than check out other forms of a basic interval program. Just do a search.
Tabata, or any other form of interval training, should really have it's own special time. Like on days when not doing serious weight workouts. Never right after a arm workout or any other type lifting program for the BB'er. If done on the same workout day as lifting, than consider a good time spacing of at least a couple of hours. Only exception would be if you were getting ready for a Tri event, bike race or something along those line. Where interval training is include in the regular endurance sport training. Good Luck.
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I just read about this and i think i am going to try it out for the pure standpoint that i like to torture myself quickly and be done with it fast. I hate slowly working towards absolute exhaustion through a 5k race.
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I just read about this and i think i am going to try it out for the pure standpoint that i like to torture myself quickly and be done with it fast. I hate slowly working towards absolute exhaustion through a 5k race.
i would also consider mixing tabata with other cardio types
ck these articles out
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/running_man (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/running_man)
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/the_hiit_revolution_for_fat_burning_success (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/the_hiit_revolution_for_fat_burning_success)
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i would also consider mixing tabata with other cardio types
ck these articles out
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/running_man (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/running_man)
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/the_hiit_revolution_for_fat_burning_success (http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/the_hiit_revolution_for_fat_burning_success)
This song is for you Johnny; your name is in the lyrics and it is famous... :)
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This song is for you Johnny; your name is in the lyrics and it is famous... :)
EXCELLENT
i love that song and new order..bravo
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EXCELLENT
i love that song and new order..bravo
You definitely have a New Order look!
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You definitely have a New Order look!
explain that to the people who live in my area
they don't get it
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explain that to the people who live in my area
they don't get it
Where do you live?
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Tabata, or any other form of interval training, should really have it's own special time.
Like morning, so you'd keep the fat-burning elevated for the majority of the day?
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any kind of cardio will have some kind of slowing effect to muscle growth. the more effective the cardio is for fat loss, the more effect it will have at slowing down muscle growth.
Layne Norton does not agree with you when it comes to HIT cardio ::)