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Title: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 08:42:19 AM
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 24, 2009, 09:28:44 AM
YAWN...HO HUM

When will you guys learn that Presidents are not elected...THEY ARE SELECTED...All of these graphs, charts and bullshit is just that BULLSHIT!!!!
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 09:37:34 AM
YAWN...HO HUM

When will you guys learn that Presidents are not elected...THEY ARE SELECTED...All of these graphs, charts and bullshit is just that BULLSHIT!!!!
Ho Hum,

You have never read a single book regarding American History. Ho Hum.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: SAMSON123 on April 24, 2009, 09:39:59 AM
I always indulge in FICTION...what are you trying to say???
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: tonymctones on April 24, 2009, 09:42:58 AM
BO is half white as well ppl seem to forget this fact
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 09:46:37 AM
BO is half white as well ppl seem to forget this fact
It didn`t stop that 20 plus percent in some states voting against him solely they see him as a black man.


Take that 20 percent bias out of the equation and he would have have carried several states that he did not.

Clearly race or the perception of race still infects our politics.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: Benny B on April 24, 2009, 10:04:27 AM
Good video, even though Nate's not saying anything I didn't already know. Thanks for sharing.  8)
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: headhuntersix on April 24, 2009, 10:10:33 AM
It didn`t stop that 20 plus percent in some states voting against him solely they see him as a black man.


Take that 20 percent bias out of the equation and he would have have carried several states that he did not.

Clearly race or the perception of race still infects our politics.

Or the states that he carried because he's black.... ::)
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 10:57:47 AM
Or the states that he carried because he's black.... ::)
Name a state he carried because he was black.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: headhuntersix on April 24, 2009, 01:41:26 PM
Uh well TA if Barry wasn't black...he wouldn't have carried any of them. The media played paddycake with him. He would have been laughed off the stage but he dems were scared to openly mock a black guy.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 01:42:46 PM
Or the states that he carried because he's black.... ::)
Name a state he carried because he was black.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: headhuntersix on April 24, 2009, 01:46:24 PM
TA pick a state that he carried...any one u like. Barry got elected because he was black, he got elected because the media was scared of him. Look how quickly Ferraro disappeared after her common sense comment on Obama...she was goneeeee. Nobody could do what he's doing to this country if they were white. He's a worthless piece of shit and the media continues to ball wash him.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 01:55:33 PM
TA pick a state that he carried...any one u like. Barry got elected because he was black, he got elected because the media was scared of him. Look how quickly Ferraro disappeared after her common sense comment on Obama...she was goneeeee. Nobody could do what he's doing to this country if they were white. He's a worthless piece of shit and the media continues to ball wash him.
North Carolina.

Now please provide some evidence, credible sources or a fact that I can turn to that he won North Carolina because he was black.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: headhuntersix on April 24, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Did u by chance watch the election...I realize ur young and naive...and can't recognize media manipulation when u see it...but come on. I realize ur not very bright, but even u can't be that stupid.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 02:08:40 PM
TA pick a state that he carried...any one u like. Barry got elected because he was black, he got elected because the media was scared of him. Look how quickly Ferraro disappeared after her common sense comment on Obama...she was goneeeee. Nobody could do what he's doing to this country if they were white. He's a worthless piece of shit and the media continues to ball wash him.
North Carolina.

Now please provide some evidence, credible sources or a fact that I can turn to that he won North Carolina because he was black.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: headhuntersix on April 24, 2009, 02:19:21 PM
I guess we can do this all day..ur blind.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 02:20:35 PM
I guess we can do this all day..ur blind.
So you admit you have ZERO evidence or fact that you can point to in order to back up your ignorant statement?
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2009, 02:21:21 PM
BO is half white as well ppl seem to forget this fact

1/2 white and 100% marxist radical.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2009, 02:22:53 PM
Name a state he carried because he was black.

Obama won solely because he was black.  Thats not racist its a fact.

If he were a 100% white guy named Barry Soteronstein from Brooklyn New York he would not have even made it through half the primaries with his insanely shallow record.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: MB_722 on April 24, 2009, 02:23:12 PM
YAWN...HO HUM

When will you guys learn that Presidents are not elected...THEY ARE SELECTED...All of these graphs, charts and bullshit is just that BULLSHIT!!!!

QFT.

For a second, I thought I was reading Toxie's post  :D
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: OzmO on April 24, 2009, 02:24:23 PM
Obama won solely because he was black.  Thats not racist its a fact.

If he were a 100% white guy named Barry Soteronstein from Brooklyn New York he would not have even made it through half the primaries with his insanely shallow record.

No way.  Obama won because he was the democratic nominee.  Thank Bush for it.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2009, 02:26:22 PM
No way.  Obama won because he was the democratic nominee.  Thank Bush for it.

That helped, but more likley Hillary would be president since she would have won the primary if Obama were 100% white.

Between the black/hispanic vote and the White-guilt vote, Obama got enough to beat Hillary.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: OzmO on April 24, 2009, 02:29:55 PM
That helped, but more likley Hillary would be president since she would have won the primary if Obama were 100% white.

Between the black/hispanic vote and the White-guilt vote, Obama got enough to beat Hillary.

I disagree with you there to.  Obama out campaigned her.  She was so polarizing it provided the opportunity for Obama.

This had little to do with him being Black.  It more of the ideal circumstances.  Him being Balck was a factor, but not near the determining factor some would say.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 02:34:45 PM
Obama won solely because he was black.  Thats not racist its a fact.

If he were a 100% white guy named Barry Soteronstein from Brooklyn New York he would not have even made it through half the primaries with his insanely shallow record.
If you are stating it as fact, where is your evidence?
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2009, 02:37:07 PM
I disagree with you there to.  Obama out campaigned her.  She was so polarizing it provided the opportunity for Obama.

This had little to do with him being Black.  It more of the ideal circumstances.  Him being Balck was a factor, but not near the determining factor some would say.

You dont get it. 

The media was completely biased in his favor because of his race and failed to treat him like they did her.  The media still shills for him in a manner like I have never seen.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2009, 02:39:15 PM
If you are stating it as fact, where is your evidence?

1.  Demographics of the RAT party primary.
2.  Media bias against Hillary
3.  Media bias in favor of ZERO

Dude, you are not dumb, wake the fuck up and at least be honest with yourself.

If ZERO were white guy from Wisconsin named Barry Zukowski, do you think he would have ever had a chance?

come on, stop playing dumb.   
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2009, 02:40:18 PM
You dont get it. 

The media was completely biased in his favor because of his race and failed to treat him like they did her.  The media still shills for him in a manner like I have never seen.
Proof please.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: OzmO on April 24, 2009, 02:42:08 PM
You dont get it. 

The media was completely biased in his favor because of his race and failed to treat him like they did her.  The media still shills for him in a manner like I have never seen.

The media loved him because he was out campaigning everyone.  He's not the first black man to run for president.  He had a compelling message in a time of apathy for government.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2009, 02:44:53 PM
Proof please.

Forget it, you like to play word games on what is plaininy obvious to anyone with an ounce of sobriety. 

The media crafted Obama as the "New" "Transformational" "Clean" "Post Racial" politician and completely ignored legitimate stories about his past, or lack thereof.

You dont want to admit it because you voted for this media creation and too much invested emotionally in him to admit what is plaininy obvious to people who pay attention to these things. 
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: OzmO on April 24, 2009, 02:47:15 PM
Forget it, you like to play word games on what is plaininy obvious to anyone with an ounce of sobriety. 

The media crafted Obama as the "New" "Transformational" "Clean" "Post Racial" politician and completely ignored legitimate stories about his past, or lack thereof.

You dont want to admit it because you voted for this media creation and too much invested emotionally in him to admit what is plaininy obvious to people who pay attention to these things. 

I for one, heard plenty about his past, from the media.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 24, 2009, 02:49:10 PM
I for one, heard plenty about his past, from the media.

Like who?  Fox news.  The rest of them spent more time discussing the tingles up their legs. 
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: OzmO on April 24, 2009, 02:51:38 PM
Like who?  Fox news.  The rest of them spent more time discussing the tingles up their legs. 

lol.

No, i saw stuff on other networks.


Even then so what?  Like the news is always objective.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: headhuntersix on April 24, 2009, 02:53:26 PM
Folks on Fox and other sources banged their collective heads against the rock that was the massively shady history of Barack Obama. Neither I nor 3 are talking about the birth certificate or muslim BS. The story was buried.
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: OzmO on April 24, 2009, 02:57:13 PM
Folks on Fox and other sources banged their collective heads against the rock that was the massively shady history of Barack Obama. Neither I nor 3 are talking about the birth certificate or muslim BS. The story was buried.

Sounds like the birth of a CT.

 :D
Title: Re: HOW does RACE affect votes: NATE SILVER TedTalks
Post by: headhuntersix on April 24, 2009, 03:00:49 PM
Don't start..haha. I'm talking Rev Wright..etc etc etc. We've beaten it to death and it really doesn't matter right now.