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I just read a story of a young kid who hung himself because bullies at school would constantly call him GAY and a VIRGIN. He complained to his mom, his teachers etc... but nothing was done and he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
As a parent how would you handle this situation if your kid complained of bullies? Do you take it seriously? Do you really think it would or could drive your kid to suicide? Do you find these bullies and bully them back? Tough situation to deal with. As a parent can you fight ever battle for your kid? The reality is that your kid spends more time at school than with you.
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this never would have happened if he had bodybuilding in his life
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There is no simple answer and you can't completely eradicate bullying, no matter what you do - it's part of growing up. It all depends on the situation and the people involved. You need to see how serious it is and act accordingly, ranging from simply writing a letter to the school authorities to actually confronting the abusive kid(s) and their parents, to try and resolve it before it gets out of control.
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All I know is, since I got big and jacked I have never had a person run their mouth on me. ;D
True story.
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All I know is, since I got big and jacked I have never had a person run their mouth on me. ;D
True story.
This poor kid was 10. How jacked can he get? It's sad to think. Kids are cruel little shits too. They never think about the consequences. More of the time the parents are to blame. Shame on the Mom in not knowing how serious this was.
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RIP Bluto.
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I just read a story of a young kid who hung himself because bullies at school would constantly call him GAY and a VIRGIN. He complained to his mom, his teachers etc... but nothing was done and he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
He wont recover.... :-\
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give him a gun and a lot of ammunition and tell him he didn't get it from me.
jt
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All I know is, since I got big and jacked I have never had a person run their mouth on me. ;D
True story.
^ look like juicer? ^
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This poor kid was 10. How jacked can he get? It's sad to think. Kids are cruel little shits too. They never think about the consequences. More of the time the parents are to blame. Shame on the Mom in not knowing how serious this was.
Agreed...most parents don't parent b/c it's not what they truely want out of life. From childhood, society pressures people into becoming parents. I'm 33 and single with no children...had the same gf for years. I get comments just about on a daily basis from these snooty ass parents with young kids...Why don't you have kids? Why are'nt you married? ....They're shocked(not really..they're envious that I actually took control of my own decision making) when I say..b/c I don't want to get married and I have never wanted kids. I get a kick outta the one's who repeatedly harass me about it while their kids are screaming and throwin shit...it just shows the epic jealousy that they have for my lifestyle of doing what I want, when I want. A fatass mother of 3 commented the other day that she envied me for having no kids, a dual income(me and my gf) in these tough economic time...I laughed at her and said..."Who said you had to have 3 kids?" ...what if her kids knew just how much of a burden they are to her? That's disgusting!
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The shultz Way!
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I just read a story of a young kid who hung himself because bullies at school would constantly call him GAY and a VIRGIN. He complained to his mom, his teachers etc... but nothing was done and he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
As a parent how would you handle this situation if your kid complained of bullies? Do you take it seriously? Do you really think it would or could drive your kid to suicide? Do you find these bullies and bully them back? Tough situation to deal with. As a parent can you fight ever battle for your kid? The reality is that your kid spends more time at school than with you.
if the kid is that weak he probably had other issues in his life and would have neded up being a useless, drug addicted slacker (best case) or a columbine-esq murderer(worst case) or somewhere in between .....bottom line he did the world a favor...natural selection
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This poor kid was 10. How jacked can he get? It's sad to think. Kids are cruel little shits too. They never think about the consequences. More of the time the parents are to blame. Shame on the Mom in not knowing how serious this was.
Well I was a virgin at 10 also
Nobody got onto me about it
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if the kid is that weak he probably had other issues in his life and would have neded up being a useless, drug addicted slacker (best case) or a columbine-esq murderer(worst case) or somewhere in between .....bottom line he did the world a favor...natural selection
>:(...ur a real tough guy!
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^ look like juicer? ^
Haha not necessarily, but I'm quite tall and have an "imposing" frame and terminator looks.
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if the kid is that weak he probably had other issues in his life and would have neded up being a useless, drug addicted slacker (best case) or a columbine-esq murderer(worst case) or somewhere in between .....bottom line he did the world a favor...natural selection
what goes around comes around, most murders or mass murderers have had past injustices long long ago that they are just getting around to addressing at the point in time they decide to take revenge, it's all a big circle, thats how the world works.
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I think I saw the story, too. Very sad. People always like to use the term "Kids these days" but in reality it should be "parents these days...."
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I think I saw the story, too. Very sad. People always like to use the term "Kids these days" but in reality it should be "parents these days...."
Agreed...unfortunatly, idiots love to reproduce :-\
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When asked why I don't want kids, I respond..."Having a child is THE most important responsibility that a person can take on and I don't want that responsibility".....these dipshit "parents" look at me like I said something wrong! UNBELIEVABLE!
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I would have gotten him on Plazmosis, which is known to create "The Alpha Male" mentality, along with midboggling size and strength. Also, for the first 10,000 new users, a free month of Cagefighting lessons will be provided. See King Kamali for details.
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Haha not necessarily, but I'm quite tall and have an "imposing" frame and terminator looks.
:D
I was making a Kyomu reference - he had his pic in his avatar and "^ look like juicer? ^" written underneath it, some time ago. Try and keep up FFS >:(
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I just read a story of a young kid who hung himself because bullies at school would constantly call him GAY and a VIRGIN. He complained to his mom, his teachers etc... but nothing was done and he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
As a parent how would you handle this situation if your kid complained of bullies? Do you take it seriously? Do you really think it would or could drive your kid to suicide? Do you find these bullies and bully them back? Tough situation to deal with. As a parent can you fight ever battle for your kid? The reality is that your kid spends more time at school than with you.
If I failed to resolve the situation through teachers, the school, etc... I would have my child transferred to a differnt school, as a last resort. NO WAY I'd jsut let that go on and on... I would take it VERY seriously.
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When asked why I don't want kids, I respond..."Having a child is THE most important responsibility that a person can take on and I don't want that responsibility".....these dipshit "parents" look at me like I said something wrong! UNBELIEVABLE!
There should have to be an approval process and licensing. Also, if someone has proven they can't control their own reproductive organs, they should be sterilized. Once is a mistake, twice is a pattern...
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Bullies tend to come from homes that are run by shitbag parents.
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I was making a Kyomu reference - he had his pic in his avatar and "^ look like juicer? ^" written underneath it, some time ago. Try and keep up FFS >:(
You're treading on thin ice there buddy....
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You're treading on thin ice there buddy....
Again the patliot tark without the knowledge. Read books and tark to me then kid.
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I just read a story of a young kid who hung himself because bullies at school would constantly call him GAY and a VIRGIN. He complained to his mom, his teachers etc... but nothing was done and he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
As a parent how would you handle this situation if your kid complained of bullies? Do you take it seriously? Do you really think it would or could drive your kid to suicide? Do you find these bullies and bully them back? Tough situation to deal with. As a parent can you fight ever battle for your kid? The reality is that your kid spends more time at school than with you.
No one takes bullying seriously until it gets very ugly or ends in death.
Maintain a good rapport and talk to your child regularly about their social interactions. If your child is being bullied get involved. If it is happening at school inform the school (principal, guidance counselors, teachers) and the school district. Meet with them in person and follow up your meetings with letters/emails that you save and can reproduce later if necessary. If warranted, remind them that inaction by school officials elsewhere has resulted in suicide and/or lawsuits.
In other words you, as the parent, need to “bully” the school. People respond to carrots and sticks. When you make it clear to school officials that you are serious about protecting your child and that you will hold them accountable if things go wrong they will intervene.
Bullying can and does lead to suicide. It can also lead to violent attacks by the victim against his tormentors. As a parent you can prevent this from happening, but you need to be in dialogue with your child and stay involved.
Left unchecked, kids who bully become adults who bully.
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This poor kid was 10. How jacked can he get? It's sad to think. Kids are cruel little shits too. They never think about the consequences. More of the time the parents are to blame. Shame on the Mom in not knowing how serious this was.
in all seriousness I have a 9 year old girl so i worry about this kind of thing a great deal. I ask my daughter all the time if anyone is messing with her and I check with her teachers on a regular basis. Kids can be heartless little fucks I know because I was one.
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No one takes bullying seriously until it gets very ugly or ends in death.
Maintain a good rapport and talk to your child regularly about their social interactions. If your child is being bullied get involved. If it is happening at school inform the school (principal, guidance counselors, teachers) and the school district. Meet with them in person and follow up your meetings with letters/emails that you save and can reproduce later if necessary. If warranted, remind them that inaction by school officials elsewhere has resulted in suicide and/or lawsuits.
In other words you, as the parent, need to “bully” the school. People respond to carrots and sticks. When you make it clear to school officials that you are serious about protecting your child and that you will hold them accountable if things go wrong they will intervene.
Bullying can and does lead to suicide. It can also lead to violent attacks by the victim against his tormentors. As a parent you can prevent this from happening, but you need to be in dialogue with your child and stay involved.
Left unchecked, kids who bully become adults who bully.
excellent post! :)
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I never got bullied in school .... no body dared :)
I was always the guy who bullied the bullies lol ;D
I learned to stand up for myself a long time ago, the only "bully" i ever had was in the first grade, he stole my hat
but i didn't say anything, i kept to myself, then he kept bothering me, I asked my dad if i could take action :D he approved and
the next day at recess the bully was in a head lock crying for his mommy :D
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No one takes bullying seriously until it gets very ugly or ends in death.
Maintain a good rapport and talk to your child regularly about their social interactions. If your child is being bullied get involved. If it is happening at school inform the school (principal, guidance counselors, teachers) and the school district. Meet with them in person and follow up your meetings with letters/emails that you save and can reproduce later if necessary. If warranted, remind them that inaction by school officials elsewhere has resulted in suicide and/or lawsuits.
In other words you, as the parent, need to “bully” the school. People respond to carrots and sticks. When you make it clear to school officials that you are serious about protecting your child and that you will hold them accountable if things go wrong they will intervene.
Bullying can and does lead to suicide. It can also lead to violent attacks by the victim against his tormentors. As a parent you can prevent this from happening, but you need to be in dialogue with your child and stay involved.
Left unchecked, kids who bully become adults who bully.
On the money Bay....i'm sure my kids teachers think i am a pain in the ass because i ask a lot of questions but fuck them, seriously...that's my kid. And I'm not going to be one of those parents saying "gee everything seemed fine" when they find out what their child has been dealing with.
you have to stay actively engaged in your kids life, hell i like hanging around my chlid, she is funny as shit
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On the money Bay....i'm sure my kids teachers think i am a pain in the ass because i ask a lot of questions but fuck them, seriously...that's my kid. And I'm not going to be one of those parents saying "gee everything seemed fine" when they find out what their child has been dealing with.
you have to stay actively engaged in your kids life, hell i like hanging around my chlid, she is funny as shit
has she inherited your vocabulary bud? ;D
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has she inherited your vocabulary bud? ;D
I don't think my daughter has ever heard me curse, i am always aware that little kids have big ears
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I don't think my daughter has ever heard me curse, i am always aware that little kids have big ears
she doesn't need to hear you say it, the first things anybody learns when they learn a new language
is the bad words LOL ;D
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I don't think my daughter has ever heard me curse, i am always aware that little kids have big ears
This is slightly off topic but as a concerned parent why do you curse at all? People often think they can flip a switch and behave a different/better way when children are present. That is almost never true. If you curse, I am willing to wager your daughter has heard it. If you do not want your child to hear you curse then remove all such words from your diction.
We never heard foul language at home (because our parents never used it in public or private) and to this day none of the now grown children in my family curse.
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I just read a story of a young kid who hung himself because bullies at school would constantly call him GAY and a VIRGIN. He complained to his mom, his teachers etc... but nothing was done and he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
As a parent how would you handle this situation if your kid complained of bullies? Do you take it seriously? Do you really think it would or could drive your kid to suicide? Do you find these bullies and bully them back? Tough situation to deal with. As a parent can you fight ever battle for your kid? The reality is that your kid spends more time at school than with you.
A weak individual dies. Its a golden rule of nature.
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This is slightly off topic but as a concerned parent why do you curse at all? People often think they can flip a switch and behave a different/better way when children are present. That is almost never true. If you curse, I am willing to wager your daughter has heard it. If you do not want your child to hear your curse then remove all such words from your diction.
We never heard foul language at home (because our parents never used it in public or private) and to this day none of the now grown children in my family curse.
I agree with that. There is no bigger turnoff than a woman who swears all the time. It just bothers me in general. It makes you sound dumb and uneducated. I'm not perfect, i let an f-bomb fly every now and again, but i know people that every other word they say is a swear. They sound ridiculous.
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i know people that every other word they say is a swear. They sound ridiculous.
Unless it's
1) A fckuing Quentin Tarantino movie, in which case it's perfectly fckuing acceptable and sounds cool as fcuk 8)
or
2) It's Christian fckuing Bale, screaming his fckuing head off at some fckuing fcuk who fcuked up his fckuing scene
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Bullies tend to come from homes that are run by shitbag parents.
true
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Unless it's
1) A fckuing Quentin Tarantino movie, in which case it's perfectly fckuing acceptable and sounds cool as fcuk 8)
or
2) It's Christian fckuing Bale, screaming his fckuing head off at some fckuing fcuk who fcuked up his fckuing scene
OR A FVCKING DEREK ANTHONY POST YOU MOTHER FVKING #### HOMO!!!
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This is slightly off topic but as a concerned parent why do you curse at all? People often think they can flip a switch and behave a different/better way when children are present. That is almost never true. If you curse, I am willing to wager your daughter has heard it. If you do not want your child to hear your curse then remove all such words from your diction.
We never heard foul language at home (because our parents never used it in public or private) and to this day none of the now grown children in my family curse.
Well i guess i must have some sort of weird discipline, Bay. because I completely switch gears when i am home, not that i curse like a sailor all the time anyway. Just because I drop F bombs like it's going out of style, and act like a juvenile here... doesn't translate into the real world. ;D
On the contrary when i speak to my child I use decidedly advanced vocabulary, because that's the way i want her to communicate. And it has worked like a charm
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OR A FVCKING DEREK ANTHONY POST YOU MOTHER FVKING #### HOMO!!!
AHAHAHAHHHAAAAA HATIZ LOL WY DONT U CUM C ME AT THE ANOLD AND SAY TO mY FAECE LMOA!!!!!!
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A weak individual dies. Its a golden rule of nature.
If he dies...He dies.
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If he dies...He dies.
Exactly, The key is not changing the school. The people around him such as parents must educate him to be enough tough to survive in the society. The bad treat at the school is nothing comparing with surviving in the society.
What he needs is the education to be strong and overcome. Not changing the circumstance.
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give him a gun and a lot of ammunition and tell him he didn't get it from me.
jt
How's Eastern University? :-\
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This is slightly off topic but as a concerned parent why do you curse at all? People often think they can flip a switch and behave a different/better way when children are present. That is almost never true. If you curse, I am willing to wager your daughter has heard it. If you do not want your child to hear you curse then remove all such words from your diction.
We never heard foul language at home (because our parents never used it in public or private) and to this day none of the now grown children in my family curse.
What about when you have 14 inchs of dripping hot midnight ebony steel running through your rear end?
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Buy the kid some juice, get him a hooker.
Problem solved
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im surprised this doesnt happen more often honestly, i remember some kids had it so bad, their lives must have been hell. kids can be truly heartless, evil little shits.
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im surprised this doesnt happen more often honestly, i remember some kids had it so bad, their lives must have been hell. kids can be truly heartless, evil little shits.
I think when we were at the war or catastrophy or ancient world. We were way more strong.
"Waaaaa they called me i am gaaayy!!" gimme a break....... Litelary, GAY..
They didnt kill your dad and raped and killed your mom and sis like in Cosobo.And still those kids must keep on living there..
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I think when we were at the war or catastrophy or ancient world. We were way more strong.
"Waaaaa they called me i am gaaayy!!" gimme a break....... Litelary, GAY..
They didnt kill your dad and raped and killed your mom and sis like in Cosobo.And still those kids must keep on living there..
I feel sorry for the kid and his family, don't get me wrong but I saw a show about young women surviving Auschwitz. You didn't see them killing themselves, they fought hard to live.
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Simple solution here. From a young age, I'd give him karate lessons and let him know, if anyone fucks with you, knock them the fuck out or at least try.
Kids don't stfu, unless you are violent.
Knock one guy out in your middle school/high school, the next 4 years will be a breeze. ;)
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I just read a story of a young kid who hung himself because bullies at school would constantly call him GAY and a VIRGIN. He complained to his mom, his teachers etc... but nothing was done and he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
As a parent how would you handle this situation if your kid complained of bullies? Do you take it seriously? Do you really think it would or could drive your kid to suicide? Do you find these bullies and bully them back? Tough situation to deal with. As a parent can you fight ever battle for your kid? The reality is that your kid spends more time at school than with you.
maybe i missed it but i'm surprised nobody has said it yet, get him involved in weight lifting or even mma ;D
seriously what else will improve the confidence of a kid getting bullied? nothing makes a kid feel like a man by pumping iron or sparring in a ring
more often than not a kid gets bullied because he looks or comes off as weak, nobody bothers a person that looks like he can handle himself if necessary, not to mention the mental benefits of lifting or training like a fighter
outside of that what can you do? beat up your kids bullies? then you go to jail and deal with lawsuits
go to the principal and complain? your kid will get bullied even more for being a 'tattle tail' and for not standing up to them himself
move him to a different school? what makes you think the new school will be any different? if the kid is physically and mentally weak at one school, he will be the same at another school
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this never would have happened if he had bodybuilding in his life
That is one of the greatest statements ever said in the history of BB boards...seriously
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maybe i missed it but i'm surprised nobody has said it yet, get him involved in weight lifting or even mma ;D
seriously what else will improve the confidence of a kid getting bullied? nothing makes a kid feel like a man by pumping iron or sparring in a ring
more often than not a kid gets bullied because he looks or comes off as weak, nobody bothers a person that looks like he can handle himself if necessary, not to mention the mental benefits of lifting or training like a fighter
outside of that what can you do? beat up your kids bullies? then you go to jail and deal with lawsuits
go to the principal and complain? your kid will get bullied even more for being a 'tattle tail' and for not standing up to them himself
move him to a different school? what makes you think the new school will be any different? if the kid is physically and mentally weak at one school, he will be the same at another school
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Good post. The parents should take action against the school, but they should also do whatever it takes to empower the kid. As long as the kid are an easy victim for bullies, the problem = not really solved.
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I would tell him to post on getbig. That will boost his self esteem.
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I would've had him bully some "mothers of 3" for having kids and not choosing the jet-set lifestyle like dov does.
Boosted ego = problem solved.
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i'd recommend plasmosis to the kid.
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I'd scare the crap out of the bully kids by threatening to give their addresses to Basile.
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i'd recommend plasmosis to the kid.
But what if the bully is on PlazmosisTM too? Then you'd face the classic paradox of an irresistible force meeting an immovable object!
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But what if the bully is on PlazmosisTM too? Then you'd face the classic paradox of an irresistible force meeting an immovable object!
It won't happen, becuase as I mentioned before, Mexicans are the ultimate paradox, because they're super short yet excellent at drywalling.
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"Sweep the leg. Do you have a problem with that?"
Some good serious posts. Building the kid's confidence from day 1 with good parenting and being involved in the child's life, dealing with the severity of the situation as it requires, etc. There's no one size fits all answer to bullying at school but if this kid killed himself then no one did anything right for him.
Totally disagree with the natural selection/let the weak ones die nonsense posted here. Hard to believe you guys really think the giant retarded kid should be allowed to wander into the advanced math class and crack all the skulls he wants. ::)
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problem is the fact that public school teachers = unionized. They have no incentive to do anything but not give a fuck despite that they are involved in a service and care profession. Get rid of the teachers' union and bingo! The teacher would then take a steel ruler and slam the shit out of the respective 'bully'
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Totally disagree with the natural selection/let the weak ones die nonsense posted here. Hard to believe you guys really think the giant retarded kid should be allowed to wander into the advanced math class and crack all the skulls he wants. ::)
What did you expect? We're meathead bodybuilders, not limp-wristed Mensa alums, duh! ::)
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Yes. Mongo smash!
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Bullies tend to come from homes that are run by shitbag parents.
QFT
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Talk to the school/teachers firstly so that they know that it's happening. If you pick your kids up from school, you might be able to have a word with the parents of the bully. Most important is teaching your kid how to stand up for himself and not allow himself to be bullied. Bullies will pick on the quiet, easy targets. Even if you get your ass kicked, standing up for yourself, shouting back, or telling the teachers every time it happens, will soon stop the bullies, and they'll go look for easier prey.
If all else fails, get him a TapOut t-shirt.
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HOW WOULD THE SPARTANS HAVE HANDLED THIS SITUATION?!
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When asked why I don't want kids, I respond..."Having a child is THE most important responsibility that a person can take on and I don't want that responsibility".....these dipshit "parents" look at me like I said something wrong! UNBELIEVABLE!
QFT and your other post as well. People are having kids because it's the next step, rather than because they think it's the right thing to do.
On a slightly different note, I'm all for adoption. Way too many kids out there with no parents to be mindlessly filling the world with new kids-everyone should be allowed to have their own kids, but it would be really nice to see adoption be a real option in more people's minds.
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And word about getting the kid into something that builds confidence. That's problem number 2: kids that don't do anything are like adults that don't do anything, lame ducks. No shit they have low confidence; the things we do are tools to gain greater confidence and understanding-they're just paths to these greater truths.
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HOW WOULD THE SPARTANS HAVE HANDLED THIS SITUATION?!
They would have stayed at home and left the fighting to the Athenians, just like always.
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Guys, can we please keep in mind that a 10-year old child died and there are grieving parents and family involved? Although this is the G & O board, we could do without the G stuff on this particular thread -- seriously. To have to bury your own child must be the most horrible feeling ever -- something my uncle had to do a few months ago.
There are some people who have posted on this thread that I have some respect for based on their accomplishments, but still disagree with their particular opinion on this particular subject. But that's OK -- everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
Being a father of two young ones myself and also being somewhat bullied in my younger years, I have a different perspective than some others here. My parents allowed me to discover what I enjoyed doing, got good at it, my self-esteem was boosted because of it, developed a great group of close friends that appreciated me for me, and that's all that mattered even despite the slight bullying attempts here and there because of my ethnicity and my lack of size at that age.
Now as an adult, despite being over a 110 lbs. heavier than when I graduated from high school, I can still empathize with the kids who get bullied. But I also know that had the parents instilled in their children an early sense of self-worth from day one, regardless of any type of name-calling or other actions a few random punks might throw at them, that these children would be able to handle it and not give them the attention that these punks are craving.
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I would have slapped my kid for bitching about it and not Doing anything about it.
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I would have slapped my kid for bitching about it and not Doing anything about it.
Ok Swede!, I'm sure you would make a great father.
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Ok Swede!, I'm sure you would make a great father.
that's what he'd like done to him right now
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that's what he'd like done to him right now
;D
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I just read a story of a young kid who hung himself because bullies at school would constantly call him GAY and a VIRGIN. He complained to his mom, his teachers etc... but nothing was done and he couldn't take it anymore and killed himself.
As a parent how would you handle this situation if your kid complained of bullies? Do you take it seriously? Do you really think it would or could drive your kid to suicide? Do you find these bullies and bully them back? Tough situation to deal with. As a parent can you fight ever battle for your kid? The reality is that your kid spends more time at school than with you.
first time i encountered a bully he ws much bigger than myself and had 3 other kids with him...
it ws at an arcade and he basically asked me to leave or get beat(he wanted to play the game i ws playing)....then he pushed me....
i quitely walked home grabbed around 4 servants , went back to the arcade and we beat the bloody (and i mean bloody ) crap out of those kids....i think one of em wet his pants when 2 of our servants put a knife to him...(i say "to" not in btw)
thats the only way to deal with bullies...come back..HARD!
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When asked why I don't want kids, I respond..."Having a child is THE most important responsibility that a person can take on and I don't want that responsibility".....these dipshit "parents" look at me like I said something wrong! UNBELIEVABLE!
we have alot in common. I get that look also. It's usually from the parents who half a$$ with their kids. The ones who will proudly say they have kids but forgot that whole raising them part.
It's actually the parents who do well with their kids and truly understand they have to put in work with their kid(s)who tell me "don't rush it" "it's alot of work"
but trust me, I know that look you speak of.
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The shultz Way!
hahaha, is that john stossel?