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Dear GOD,
can you expand a little about the importance of Growth Hormone to the BB?
thanks in advance.
-keep my name off please.
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in simple terms? the only way bob chikerelo,,,jason cutler,,,branch ,,the list go on and on ,,,the only way they can get in shape is ONLY if they have gh in their hands,,
what do i mean by that ?
gh is the most important product the bodybuildeer has since the mid 90s,,,why do i say that ? due to the size the bodybuilder holds while reducing bodyfat % to competetive levels,,
what do i mean ?
a bodybuilder can walk around 12% 240lb and use all the roids in the world but will have to lose those 40 - 50lb beofre competition inorder to be able to step on stage shredded,,sometimes more !
now if this bodybuilder add growth not only will he not lose weight at the same ratio ,,he will also add muscle ,,,see the kevin levrone symtom and the tom prince phenomena,,
the moment the bodybuilder add legit gh into his routine ,,,he can do mainly 2 important things,,,
1. he can diet on JUNK,,as in jamaican good pizza ,,burgers,,anything you wish beside bread and milk but even that you can take on gh no problem as long as it is moderately supervized since you shoudl know your body by the time youre on growth
2. he loses a lot less weight on the way to stahe ,,,lets say a bodybuilder has gh even at 4-5 units a day ,,legit gh ,,will guive him the ability within 12-20 weeks to get down to 6-7% from the 12 % he started with and if he does 25 weeks he will finally get down to the 4% a competetive professiona is on stage at,,,all that while only losing small amount of weight as in down from 240 to 215- 220 insted of down to 190-200,,,
gh is the way bodybuilders climb clasess ,,,thasty how we add muscle every year,,,thats how we come 10 pounds heavier next competition ,,,its the gh ,,
now when you add aas with the gh then the ones who know their body can grow into competition weight the way kevin used to do it ,,
in addition the dependent of gh dose is highly important,,the more gh you use ,,the biggest you will get ,,professinals abuse gh ,,toop amatuer in many cases abuse it too,,the more gh you use the less weight you will lose during dieting and infact the word diet dissapear out of the vocabulary while the gh doses increase ,,
lastly ,,any serious athlete now days is on gh ,,gh15 is what we consider magic,,it works on any one ,,and works for any one,,,not the crap igf,,but real gh that the liver needs inorder to produce igf inside the body,,
i do not know even one athlete that DOES NOT take hgh now days,,that includes any competetive bodybuilder at regional level and above
gh15 approved
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the chemical brother.
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increasing sales of hgh? :-\
"legit hgh" implies creating demand for products whereby people like you make a greater profit on...
That aside...
If you are already using say 15 units of growth a day is any added IGF-1 useful? This would be for a bodybuilder trying to put on the most amount of muscle mass possible. 230lb 12% 6'1" aiming for the 260lbs and 270lbs we all love to get
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increasing sales of hgh? :-\
"legit hgh" implies creating demand for products whereby people like you make a greater profit on...
That aside...
If you are already using say 15 units of growth a day is any added IGF-1 useful? This would be for a bodybuilder trying to put on the most amount of muscle mass possible. 230lb 12% 6'1" aiming for the 260lbs and 270lbs we all love to get
the 260+ weigth zones for 6 feet is not achievable with out the use of growth and aas in combination with insulin ,, do not belive the getny bullshit,,you need gh aas and insulin ,,igf is not necessary you need more gh ,,
the more aas you use the thicker you get ,,,the more gh you use the leaner and bigger you get,,insulin pushes another 20 pounders into the full blown stage which i do not like,,
gh by itself will get you lean and maintain ALL of yoru muscle in very very short time,,aas will give the thickness,,no aas = no thickness,,meaning if you only use gh you will be lean and maybe big but not thick,,your physiqe will be like a lean bigger version of a spinter,,,inorder to get to brach type of look the aas is needed inorder to create the thickness in the shoulder and chest and back that you can nto get with out the use of testosterone
gh15 approved
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thing are so simple...
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the 260+ weigth zones for 6 feet is not achievable with out the use of growth and aas in combination with insulin ,, do not belive the getny bullshit,,you need gh aas and insulin ,,igf is not necessary you need more gh ,,
gh15 approved
Thanks heaps gh15
Yes the getny stuff is nonsense and I am slowly finding that truth for myself.
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Damn professional bodybuilding is depressing these days.
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Damn professional bodybuilding is depressing these days.
who care about pro bbing seriously, getting fucked in the ass by schmoe for few gh amp, diying at 40, eating white egg at every meal, seriously ?
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who care about pro bbing seriously, getting fucked in the ass by schmoe for few gh amp, diying at 40, eating white egg at every meal, seriously ?
I care about it
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I care about it
allo oxo ici la terre ?
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yeah I am dieting with GH this time around and even at 3 IU a day, my weight stays up
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Dear GOD,
can you expand a little about the importance of Growth Hormone to the BB?
thanks in advance.
-keep my name off please.
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in simple terms? the only way bob chikerelo,,,jason cutler,,,branch ,,the list go on and on ,,,the only way they can get in shape is ONLY if they have gh in their hands,,
what do i mean by that ?
gh is the most important product the bodybuildeer has since the mid 90s,,,why do i say that ? due to the size the bodybuilder holds while reducing bodyfat % to competetive levels,,
what do i mean ?
a bodybuilder can walk around 12% 240lb and use all the roids in the world but will have to lose those 40 - 50lb beofre competition inorder to be able to step on stage shredded,,sometimes more !
now if this bodybuilder add growth not only will he not lose weight at the same ratio ,,he will also add muscle ,,,see the kevin levrone symtom and the tom prince phenomena,,
the moment the bodybuilder add legit gh into his routine ,,,he can do mainly 2 important things,,,
1. he can diet on JUNK,,as in jamaican good pizza ,,burgers,,anything you wish beside bread and milk but even that you can take on gh no problem as long as it is moderately supervized since you shoudl know your body by the time youre on growth
2. he loses a lot less weight on the way to stahe ,,,lets say a bodybuilder has gh even at 4-5 units a day ,,legit gh ,,will guive him the ability within 12-20 weeks to get down to 6-7% from the 12 % he started with and if he does 25 weeks he will finally get down to the 4% a competetive professiona is on stage at,,,all that while only losing small amount of weight as in down from 240 to 215- 220 insted of down to 190-200,,,
gh is the way bodybuilders climb clasess ,,,thasty how we add muscle every year,,,thats how we come 10 pounds heavier next competition ,,,its the gh ,,
now when you add aas with the gh then the ones who know their body can grow into competition weight the way kevin used to do it ,,
in addition the dependent of gh dose is highly important,,the more gh you use ,,the biggest you will get ,,professinals abuse gh ,,toop amatuer in many cases abuse it too,,the more gh you use the less weight you will lose during dieting and infact the word diet dissapear out of the vocabulary while the gh doses increase ,,
lastly ,,any serious athlete now days is on gh ,,gh15 is what we consider magic,,it works on any one ,,and works for any one,,,not the crap igf,,but real gh that the liver needs inorder to produce igf inside the body,,
i do not know even one athlete that DOES NOT take hgh now days,,that includes any competetive bodybuilder at regional level and above
gh15 approved
Jesus Christ, this is priceless shit right here. Pure gold. Never will we hear this anywhere else from anyone else. Another telling point gh made on another thread is to not only pay attention to those that question his veracity but pay closer attention to those that remain silent. The guys in the know and have been in the game (and are still in) like Chic are reading this but they don't say a word. The things I've learned just in the last couple of years I wish I knew twenty years ago as a young teen trying to figure things out. It would have save me years if not decades of wasted time, effort and money.
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All that said....I never started any GH until AFTER I turned pro.
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All that said....I never started any GH until AFTER I turned pro.
What's your opinion on GH bob??, there's always a good and bad to most everything, and since you're a pro and i'm assuming you've seen both sides of the coin was curious if you'd share your thoughts on this issue.
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gh15, In the paul borrenson thread he is quoted as saying test cyp is a shitty drug and can cause depression...Any truth to this? Isnt test cyp the test that is most often prescribed for HRT?
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gh15!
And what do you think? How much GH do the top IFBB pros use? (And maybe how much they should use...?)
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LMAO @ Dear God
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How much GH do the top IFBB pros use?
As much as they can afford ;) :D
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As much as they can afford ;) :D
This is why I asked about the top IFBB pros where the money is not a problem... ;)
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I'll try 10 IUs in june and july ;D and maybe august too depends on the $$$
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This is why I asked about the top IFBB pros where the money is not a problem... ;)
What do you think Steve? I'm sure you had numerous discussions with your fellow pros about how much GH Ronnie and Jay have used. Maybe not something you want to comment on publicly though.
I know Milos would say 2 units, MAYBE 6. :D
Nasser did say that sure, he's done 15 units. :D
Way I see it, if a guy with HIV can handle 16+, surely a top bb could do the same - and more. If finances aren't a problem. :D
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What do you think Steve? I'm sure you had numerous discussions with your fellow pros about how much GH Ronnie and Jay have used. Maybe not something you want to comment on publicly though.
I know Milos would say 2 units, MAYBE 6. :D
I really don't know this is why I asked. Of course I heard those rumors about the 30 IUs per day... ???
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What's your opinion on GH bob??, there's always a good and bad to most everything, and since you're a pro and i'm assuming you've seen both sides of the coin was curious if you'd share your thoughts on this issue.
I think its overrated, and contrary to popular opinion...more is not better. There is a limit (which may varry from person to person)....but once that limit is reached, oly diminishing returns can be expected.
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I think its overrated, and contrary to popular opinion...more is not better. There is a limit (which may varry from person to person)....but once that limit is reached, oly diminishing returns can be expected.
Yep, I also think the same but I hear the opposite...
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Yep, I also think the same but I hear the opposite...
I've heard the opposite as well, but my experience tells me different.....as well as seeing physiques get destroyed by excessive GH use. The end result may be a bigger body, but certainly not better
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I could only afford 4iu (4times a wk) for 20wks so We'll see what happens there
I got some results from 2iu (5times a wk) before
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[quote author=s
Dear GOD,
can you expand a little about the importance of Growth Hormone to the BB?
thanks in advance.
-keep my name off please.
[/quote
in simple terms? the only way bob chikerelo,,,jason cutler,,,branch ,,the list go on and on ,,,the only way they can get in shape is ONLY if they have gh in their hands,,
what do i mean by that ?
gh is the most important product the bodybuildeer has since the mid 90s,,,why do i say that ? due to the size the bodybuilder holds while reducing bodyfat % to competetive levels,,
what do i mean ?
a bodybuilder can walk around 12% 240lb and use all the roids in the world but will have to lose those 40 - 50lb beofre competition inorder to be able to step on stage shredded,,sometimes more !
now if this bodybuilder add growth not only will he not lose weight at the same ratio ,,he will also add muscle ,,,see the kevin levrone symtom and the tom prince phenomena,,
the moment the bodybuilder add legit gh into his routine ,,,he can do mainly 2 important things,,,
1. he can diet on JUNK,,as in jamaican good pizza ,,burgers,,anything you wish beside bread and milk but even that you can take on gh no problem as long as it is moderately supervized since you shoudl know your body by the time youre on growth
2. he loses a lot less weight on the way to stahe ,,,lets say a bodybuilder has gh even at 4-5 units a day ,,legit gh ,,will guive him the ability within 12-20 weeks to get down to 6-7% from the 12 % he started with and if he does 25 weeks he will finally get down to the 4% a competetive professiona is on stage at,,,all that while only losing small amount of weight as in down from 240 to 215- 220 insted of down to 190-200,,,
gh is the way bodybuilders climb clasess ,,,thasty how we add muscle every year,,,thats how we come 10 pounds heavier next competition ,,,its the gh ,,
now when you add aas with the gh then the ones who know their body can grow into competition weight the way kevin used to do it ,,
in addition the dependent of gh dose is highly important,,the more gh you use ,,the biggest you will get ,,professinals abuse gh ,,toop amatuer in many cases abuse it too,,the more gh you use the less weight you will lose during dieting and infact the word diet dissapear out of the vocabulary while the gh doses increase ,,
lastly ,,any serious athlete now days is on gh ,,gh15 is what we consider magic,,it works on any one ,,and works for any one,,,not the crap igf,,but real gh that the liver needs inorder to produce igf inside the body,,
i do not know even one athlete that DOES NOT take hgh now days,,that includes any competetive bodybuilder at regional level and above
gh15 approved
Great post anthony but as Bob pointed out, this reaffirms that:
• You are not a pro
• Describe the same knowledge about drugs as you do in your books.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=276600.0
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good thread.
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Yep, I also think the same but I hear the opposite...
Over 10iu's of legit growth (Serostim, Humatrope) a day and you will get crazy wrist pain/tendonitis/carpal tunnel syndrome and really bad low brain/cranial type headaches.
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Over 10iu's of legit growth (Serostim, Humatrope) a day and you will get crazy wrist pain/tendonitis/carpal tunnel syndrome and really bad low brain/cranial type headaches.
O RLY?