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Which kind of gun owner are you?
Buckeye Firearms Association ^ | 24 April, 2009 | Steven Loos
Posted on Sunday, April 26, 2009 10:10:51 AM by marktwain
Having spent a fair amount of my impressionable years shooting alongside my WW2 veteran grandfather, I was fortunate to have been taught early on the great responsibility that owning a firearm brings.
As far back as I can recall I have always understood owning a firearm had a deeper meaning. Later in life, and much to my surprise, I would come to understand that not all owners share this belief.
During Ohioans' struggle to pass common-sense concealed carry legislation, I had the good fortune to join in the fight as a volunteer. While continuing the good work of defending the Second Amendment alongside incredibly dedicated activists, I have interacted with many firearm owners.
Gun owners come from all walks of life. We may be politician, police officer or plumber. Statistically we are the most law-abiding segment of society. Interestingly, among the gun owning public, I've encountered three distinct kinds of gun owners. Although there are variations in each subset, what follows is in my opinion the general categories that most gun owners fall into:
The Casual Gun Owner The Belligerent Gun Owner The Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights First, let's examine the Casual Gun Owner. Perhaps a majority of the estimated 80 million plus American gun owners fall into this group. Akin to the previously spotlighted apathetic gun owner, the Casual Gun Owner looks upon the firearm as simply a tool or object they own, not unlike a motorcycle or a set of golf clubs.
While this person may own one or several firearms, they might own a firearm for self defense or for hunting. To this person, the gun is a mere inanimate possession which they may hide the existence of from disapproving friends.
To the Casual Gun Owner their firearm has no deeper meaning or significance. He will support bans on modern semi-auto rifles or tightening regulations of handguns because it doesn't effect his sport. He may even join the NRA, and figure that's doing his part. However the moment owning a firearm becomes a burden or an inconvenience, the Casual Gun Owner will obediently turn them in. The powers-that-be need only demand them to do so.
Next up to bat is the Belligerent Gun Owner. These are the hot heads of the gun ownership demographic, who are more than happy to criticize others for not doing enough, while proclaiming at the top of their lungs their steadfast dedication and support to the cause of Second Amendment rights. They indeed talk the talk.
Typically the Belligerent Gun Owner spends his time complaining about the status quo, they are quick to attack the NRA or call others making progress "incrementalists", using the term like a dirty word. These folks often suffer from the "I got mine" mentality (i.e. "I've bought all the guns I need or want so I'm not worried about future anti-gun laws passing.") The Belligerent Gun Owner lavishes in pontificating on Internet forums, yet cannot be bothered to show up to hold a banner at a rally, write a letter to lawmakers or man a table at the gun shows.
One can often find Belligerent Gun Owner at the range telling others how it's done. On the rare occasion the Belligerent Gun Owner does get off of his couch and puts his foot in the door, he typically burns bridges with law-makers with his bombastic nature, shedding a bad light on all gun ownership. This individual can and does cause the most damage in the struggle to protect our ever disappearing liberties. He is the anti-gunners' poster boy.
Finally, we have arrived at the Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights. He may be a high-powered shooter at Camp Perry. She may be a concealed handgun license-holder. They may be sportsmen. What shooting activity they participate in is of no particular importance. The Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights works diligently with the knowledge the Second Amendment is constantly under attack. Having the understanding that our rights were chipped away over the decades, the Defender takes heart in the knowledge that she may not obtain the ultimate goal of total repeal of the unconstitutional infringements in one fell swoop. Yet he believes if we continue working, keep persisting, eventually gun rights will be restored to their rightful, tantamount position.
The Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights is who we have to thank for carrying the banner. They live the life and understand the deeper meaning of firearms ownership. Not only do firearms hold a pivotal place in American history, a tangible cultural significance, but greater still is their understanding that the Second Amendment is the lynch pin of our American liberties.
As any true believer worth his salt knows, the Second Amendment doesn't say anything about hunting. I'm happy for you if you are a sportsman, but that just isn't what it's about. The Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights will join grassroots groups, write letters to law-makers and attend legislative hearings. She will politely speak up when uninformed acquaintances regurgitate the anti-gun sound bites from the late-night news shows. He will not feel content in sending his yearly dues to the NRA, but he will work to be an informed voter, and he will donate his time to train new shooters. What sets this person apart from the Casual Gun Owner is a passion to defend our rights for the next generation.
Take a moment to reflect. If you're reading this article and visiting this website, I assume you are an informed Dedicated Defender of Gun Rights. If you fall into the other camps or know someone that does, please look inside and ask yourself, what do you believe?
During these uncertain times, when the barbarians are at the gates, I ask: Which kind of gun owner are you?
Steven Loos is a Buckeye Firearms Association Central Ohio Region Leader.
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I am definately the last type.
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They're missing the thug category. And I guess I don't fit into any of those categories.
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According to many thugs don't have guns.
Only redneck gun nuts have guns.
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According to many thugs don't have guns.
Only redneck gun nuts have guns.
nope, there is very much two completely different gun cultures in America.
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Good article...I'm number 3. I had a woman show up at my house on Sunday afternoon. She was well dressed with a large purse. She was also fat. She was a mexican looking for money for her baby and some crap about a stint in her arm and some other crap..anyway I cut her off. It was either a retarded but sincere attempt to get money or a gang related attempt to case houses for robbery. Luckily my Golden Retreiver went absolutely apeshit and came through the window at her. My GF managed to grab him. I live in a new develoment in El Paso, but u never now. I have a good sized cahce of weapons and just picked up another pistol. I'm getting a new benelli as my old remington is, well old. Plus this thing is cool as hell. My point...I created a small " no soliciting sign, with an NRA symbol and under it I put, "Enthusiastic supporter of the 2nd Amendment". I had it laminated at Kinko's and need to find a tasteful way to put it near my door.
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Good article...I'm number 3. I had a woman show up at my house on Sunday afternoon. She was well dressed with a large purse. She was also fat. She was a mexican looking for money for her baby and some crap about a stint in her arm and some other crap..anyway I cut her off. It was either a retarded but sincere attempt to get money or a gang related attempt to case houses for robbery. Luckily my Golden Retreiver went absolutely apeshit and came through the window at her. My GF managed to grab him. I live in a new develoment in El Paso, but u never now. I have a good sized cahce of weapons and just picked up another pistol. I'm getting a new benelli as my old remington is, well old. Plus this thing is cool as hell. My point...I created a small " no soliciting sign, with an NRA symbol and under it I put, "Enthusiastic supporter of the 2nd Amendment". I had it laminated at Kinko's and need to find a tasteful way to put it near my door.
Great!
The next time you go out of town, ...the criminals and convicted felons will know where they can get guns.
And those idiots that might have attempted to rob you with a knife, ...will bring even more fire power. Brilliant!
You don't advertise that shit, ..you take the fuckers by surprise!
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Thanks jag...I really value ur advice. They're not getting through my gun cabinet without a friggen blow torch and they better bring about 6 guys to get it out of the house all the while hoping the friggen alarm doesn't bring the police that are 2 blocks away. Plus with 3 insane dogs.....come on boys, lets weed out the gene pool. A knife....christ I might not have justifiable homicide on my side if they did that.
Mr headhunter, why did u unload 3 mags and a shotgun into pedro here, all he had was a knife.
Well sir, I had to be sure he could'nt be ID'd by his family.....rubble doesn't make trouble baby.
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Great!
The next time you go out of town, ...the criminals and convicted felons will know where they can get guns.
And those idiots that might have attempted to rob you with a knife, ...will bring even more fire power. Brilliant!
You don't advertise that shit, ..you take the fuckers by surprise!
your logic is just retarded jag, first off signs like beware of dog, security signs etc...have been proven to help stop crime on those locations. If they see that sign in his front yard and 10 houses with no signs toward those ends who do you think they are going to rob?
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your logic is just retarded jag, first off signs like beware of dog, security signs etc...have been proven to help stop crime on those locations. If they see that sign in his front yard and 10 houses with no signs toward those ends who do you think they are going to rob?
All depends on what they're looking for doesn't it?
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I only have a bat.
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Like Tony mentioned...just having a sign works. ADT or Brinks whatever......would u carjack a car with a NRA sticker on it...or carjack Jag....hmmm. Would u carjack a car from Texas or Mass...plus once ur dogs bark...they run off. Its all about the path of least resistance.
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I only have a bat.
lol some repub you are :)
would u carjack a car with a NRA sticker on it
No, but that car might be far more likely to be robbed in a parking lot.
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Like Tony mentioned...just having a sign works. ADT or Brinks whatever......would u carjack a car with a NRA sticker on it...or carjack Jag....hmmm. Would u carjack a car from Texas or Mass...plus once ur dogs bark...they run off. Its all about the path of least resistance.
exactly
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Beach....by a shotgun...cheap..easy to use and u can hide it from the tykes or keep it safed.
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Beach....by a shotgun...cheap..easy to use and u can hide it from the tykes or keep it safed.
Yeah. My dad and I went around about this many times. He always kept a loaded gun. Too many kids in my house, including those who visit. Plus I could probably take out an intruder a lot faster with the bat.
Although given how I swing the bat in softball sometimes, I should probably reconsider . . . .
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Plus I could probably take out an intruder a lot faster with the bat.
I thought your kids were older? Get a piece and keep it locked up. There are a lot of ppl whose last thought must be "Damn, I wish I had a gun right about now". Just a few hundred bucks, keep it in the bedroom, and have a better chance should bad luck find you.
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Like Tony mentioned...just having a sign works. ADT or Brinks whatever......would u carjack a car with a NRA sticker on it...or carjack Jag....hmmm. Would u carjack a car from Texas or Mass...plus once ur dogs bark...they run off. Its all about the path of least resistance.
Jag's car. I heard it can run for like 8 thousand miles on one tank of gas due to a magical potion she has...
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I thought your kids were older? Get a piece and keep it locked up. There are a lot of ppl whose last thought must be "Damn, I wish I had a gun right about now". Just a few hundred bucks, keep it in the bedroom, and have a better chance should bad luck find you.
I've never said how old my kids are.
A locked up gun is less accessible than the bat that sits in the corner of my room. I don't think an intruder would give me time to retrieve a gun, load it, and fire. Anyone breaking into my house better kill me quickly and silently, or they will not be leaving the crib upright.
It's really not something I worry about.
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Jag's car. I heard it can run for like 8 thousand miles on one tank of gas due to a magical potion she has...
It's not a magical potion, it's a well established fuel catalyst based on aerospace and Nobel prize winning technology (Wilkinson's catalyst), and is available in 3 forms:
- caplet - (mpg-cap) the preferred form for gasoline powered passenger vehicles
- crumbs -(mpg-mega-crumbs) the preferred form for diesel powered engines and big rigs
- liquid - (mpg-boost) the preferred form for home heating fuel and anti-siphon equipped tanks
The crumb form is the most economical and with only a modest 10% mileage increase, provides a 130% net ROI.
It doesn't extend mileage as much as you claim. We only guarantee an increase of between 7 - 14%,
...although in actual usage many users are seeing increases well in excess of that. (approx. 20-30%)
The highest I've seen was a 55% mileage increase, but that was highly unusual. He's happy though. :D
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Beach....by a shotgun...cheap..easy to use and u can hide it from the tykes or keep it safed.
maybe a gun saftey course too if he's never owned a gun.
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maybe a gun saftey course too if he's never owned a gun.
No need. I've fired an M16 numerous times. It just doesn't interest me. Sort of like my best friend constantly in my ear about buying a motorcyle. It's just not my thing.
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Beach....by a shotgun...cheap..easy to use and u can hide it from the tykes or keep it safed.
why not get em all?
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why not get em all?
I don't care how hard you try, ...240 has earned the gun guy label.
Now maybe if you posted a nice pic with your glock, I might reconsider, ...until then, ...it's 240's :D
240, you need to kick 333386's ass. He's gunning for your title.
It's time to remind of all the things that don't flow in your bloodline. :D
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I don't care how hard you try, ...240 has earned the gun guy label.
Now maybe if you posted a nice pic with your glock, I might reconsider, ...until then, ...it's 240's :D
240, you need to kick 333386's ass. He's gunning for your title.
It's time to remind of all the things that don't flow in your bloodline. :D
I just got back from my self defense class. Im in the mood for fight.
www.attackproof.com
I train with the same guy that trains Celente. Perkins and Col. Al Ridenhour are totally badass. I went at it with a green beret tonight and held my own just fine. 240 might want to think twice about this.
Plus, at last count i had about 30 guns and and have a new one coming this week.
Due to the cost of ammo, I am shooting more .22 now so I ordered a GSG5 to screw around with.
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I don't care how hard you try, ...240 has earned the gun guy label.
Now maybe if you posted a nice pic with your glock, I might reconsider, ...until then, ...it's 240's :D
240, you need to kick 333386's ass. He's gunning for your title.
It's time to remind of all the things that don't flow in your bloodline. :D
LOL... 333386 is like me a few years back. So happy about having guns that it's all he talks about. For me, today, it's just another tool. If I need to fix a toilet seat, I get a screwdriver. If a bad guy comes around, I reach for the gun. It's not a huge deal.
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I just got back from my self defense class. Im in the mood for fight.
www.attackproof.com
I train with the same guy that trains Celente. Perkins and Col. Al Ridenhour are totally badass. I went at it with a green beret tonight and held my own just fine. 240 might want to think twice about this.
Plus, at last count i had about 30 guns and and have a new one coming this week.
Due to the cost of ammo, I am shooting more .22 now so I ordered a GSG5 to screw around with.
LOL hahah my pops has one of those, alot of fun to plink around with and you get alot of looks at the range.
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LOL... 333386 is like me a few years back. So happy about having guns that it's all he talks about. For me, today, it's just another tool. If I need to fix a toilet seat, I get a screwdriver. If a bad guy comes around, I reach for the gun. It's not a huge deal.
Its a fun hobby for me.
Lifting, shooting, fighting, collecting bad debts, listenting to slayer, bdp, ice t, hatebreed, spending time with my GF, its all fun.
Did i forget posting here????
That is fun too. ;D
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I just got back from my self defense class. Im in the mood for fight.
www.attackproof.com
I train with the same guy that trains Celente. Perkins and Col. Al Ridenhour are totally badass. I went at it with a green beret tonight and held my own just fine. 240 might want to think twice about this.
Plus, at last count i had about 30 guns and and have a new one coming this week.
Due to the cost of ammo, I am shooting more .22 now so I ordered a GSG5 to screw around with.
LOL "think twice" about what?
You're a gun owner. That's great. But you give responsible gun owners a bad rep with the "I have 30 guns and I'm a badass" talk. Just have your tools and be happy. this isn't a dick measuring contest. We're americans enjoying our rights.
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LOL "think twice" about what?
You're a gun owner. That's great. But you give responsible gun owners a bad rep with the "I have 30 guns and I'm a badass" talk. Just have your tools and be happy. this isn't a dick measuring contest. We're americans enjoying our rights.
Unarmed combat. I dont need a gun to take you out. :D :o >:( :( :P :-X :-* :'(
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I just got back from my self defense class. Im in the mood for fight.
www.attackproof.com
I train with the same guy that trains Celente. Perkins and Col. Al Ridenhour are totally badass. I went at it with a green beret tonight and held my own just fine. 240 might want to think twice about this.
Plus, at last count i had about 30 guns and and have a new one coming this week.
Due to the cost of ammo, I am shooting more .22 now so I ordered a GSG5 to screw around with.
::) Oh Gee whiz, ...another Internet Tough Guy.
When I said he should kick your ass, I meant figuratively speaking. ...ya know, as in keyboard to keyboard combat.
W8tlftr was gonna teach me Krav Maga, but he kept rubbing his parts against my bottom, trying to leave a good impression. He says he leaves a good impression on all his students. Is that how it's done? :-\
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LOL "think twice" about what?
You're a gun owner. That's great. But you give responsible gun owners a bad rep with the "I have 30 guns and I'm a badass" talk. Just have your tools and be happy. this isn't a dick measuring contest. We're americans enjoying our rights.
oh you know what picture I want to post up :D JK ;D
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LOL "think twice" about what?
You're a gun owner. That's great. But you give responsible gun owners a bad rep with the "I have 30 guns and I'm a badass" talk. Just have your tools and be happy. this isn't a dick measuring contest. We're americans enjoying our rights.
Yep, ...that's the kind of ass kicking I was talking about. {pssst} Looks like you got him in the gonads too. :P
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Unarmed combat. I dont need a gun to take you out. :D :o >:( :( :P :-X :-* :'(
lol seriously, settle down dutch boy. You really do sound like me 4 or 5 years ago. Enjoy it, it's fun, but make an effort not to try to sound like you're trying to prove yourself 24/7. I used to be obnoxious about it too, and it's lame.
Just have fun, enjoy your guns. But don't end up one of those guys in the bar bragging about his 30 guns and all the ninja moves he knows. Those guys are d-bags.
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Yep, ...that's the kind of ass kicking I was talking about. {pssst} Looks like you got him in the gonads too. :P
You just start accumulating stuff over the years. No one says "I want 30 guns", you just pick them up over time.
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::) Oh Gee whiz, ...another Internet Tough Guy.
When I said he should kick your ass, I meant figuratively speaking. ...ya know, as in keyboard to keyboard combat.
W8tlftr was gonna teach me Krav Maga, but he kept rubbing his parts against my bottom, trying to leave a good impression. He says he leaves a good impression on all his students. Is that how it's done? :-\
LOL ya thats pretty much standard procedure from what i hear
hahahha whats keyboard to keyboard combat i want in ON GUARD BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!
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lol seriously, settle down dutch boy. You really do sound like me 4 or 5 years ago. Enjoy it, it's fun, but make an effort not to try to sound like you're trying to prove yourself 24/7. I used to be obnoxious about it too, and it's lame.
Just have fun, enjoy your guns. But don't end up one of those guys in the bar bragging about his 30 guns and all the ninja moves he knows. Those guys are d-bags.
Serious though, with the cost of ammo lately, i am shooting mostly .22. I cant get .223 and dont want to use up what I have.
I am selling one of the shotguns and getting the GSG5 because i can shoot it anywhere and it is chambered for .22. It sucks, but ammo is hard to come by and getting expensive.
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LOL ya thats pretty much standard procedure from what i hear
hahahha whats keyboard to keyboard combat i want in ON GUARD BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!
240 is good people. I was just having some fun.
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Unarmed combat. I dont need a gun to take you out. :D :o >:( :( :P :-X :-* :'(
May I recommend you try some of this. Toxie speaks very highly of it.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4k_3BRbF8N0/SaWTnxEJAPI/AAAAAAAAAG8/ldmNXQrrvBY/s400/beano.jpg)
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now ya know. Stock on during repub admins, and just wait it out while dems are in office :)
I remember how happy I was in 2004 when the brady bill sunsetted and $100 mags went down to $15. Same thing will happen either slowly once the gun nuts realize no gun ban is coming, or if Obama loses in 2012. it's cyclical. I don't like it, but it's the reality of things.
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May I recommend you try some of this. Toxie speaks very highly of it.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4k_3BRbF8N0/SaWTnxEJAPI/AAAAAAAAAG8/ldmNXQrrvBY/s400/beano.jpg)
Ill remember that the next time I go to taco bell or White Castle. Thanks!
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Is there an expiration date on bullets?
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Is there an expiration date on bullets?
kept dry, at least 10 years. You should rotate out the ammo you keep in your defensive piece every year to keep that fresh.
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kept dry, at least 10 years. You should rotate out the ammo you keep in your defensive piece every year to keep that fresh.
You know I was only kidding with you right????
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Is there an expiration date on bullets?
not really im sure they will go bad given the right conditions but my dad growing up would shoot old ww2 surplus stuff which was probably 10-15 yrs old if not older.
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kept dry, at least 10 years. You should rotate out the ammo you keep in your defensive piece every year to keep that fresh.
magazines as well especially if you keep your mags loaded, the springs decompress over time and can lead to a jam at a very crucial moment.
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You know I was only kidding with you right????
oh yeah, this place is fun tonight.
magazines as well especially if you keep your mags loaded, the springs decompress over time and can lead to a jam at a very crucial moment.
yeah, those mag springs are a bitch. Nothing more frustrating than the ass falling out of a mag on you, springs and rounds falling everywhere.
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You know I was only kidding with you right????
Haha... I think someone saw the pic of 240 and his glock. :o
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My buddy just got a SA Socom 2 rifle. Damn thing is sweet. It was about $1800.00.
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Haha... I think someone saw the pic of 240 and his glock. :o
Ill show you mine if you show me yours. ;)
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oh yeah, this place is fun tonight.
yeah, those mag springs are a bitch. Nothing more frustrating than the ass falling out of a mag on you, springs and rounds falling everywhere.
...especially when you're about to shoot the enemy right. HA! :D
Someone oughtta write that into the storyline of the next testosterone fueled Hollywood shoot 'em up.
It would make for a very suspenseful moment don't you think? And Bruce Willis could be the guy it happens to.
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now ya know. Stock on during repub admins, and just wait it out while dems are in office :)
I remember how happy I was in 2004 when the brady bill sunsetted and $100 mags went down to $15. Same thing will happen either slowly once the gun nuts realize no gun ban is coming, or if Obama loses in 2012. it's cyclical. I don't like it, but it's the reality of things.
LOL. You see the stories on drudge today.
Gun buyers are etying the shelves thinking Obama might win again.