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Based upon what he promised in the election run-up, how would he have handled the wars, the economy, and the flu?
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One response (not mine, but interesting)
Seriously, McCain has been in opposition of everything Pres. Obama has proposed since taking office.
Had McCain won, this is what I think would have happened.
Firstly, he would bring on a spending freeze, except for the war. There would have been no stimulus and economic recovery plan. McCain would concede the economy was hurting, but try to rosey it up by suggesting it wasn't nearly as bad as it appeared. He then would slash taxes, do away with spending, ignore Wall Street and the banks, while continuing with keeping troops in Iraq, while not even taking a glance at Afghanistan.
Remember when the stock market began to really slide when Pres. Obama took office? Well it would have done the exact same thing, except with no type of banking and Wall Street plan, confidence in the market would have continued to tank under Pres. McCain. So while the markets stabilized under Pres. Obama, they most likely would have continued a sharp decline.
That would lead to even more widespread economic panic.
At the G20, McCain would have been greeted by protests and his attitude would be extremely standoffish toward other leaders. This would ultimately hurt at getting any money to help aide the world economy and he would have left Europe essentially accomplishing nothing.
By mid-March, with the stock market performing at its worst since the early 80s, McCain's approval ratings would begin to crumble as more and more Americans begin to question his leadership.
At that point, the Democrats would have drafted their own economy recovery package, however, McCain would vow to veto anything that spends, suggesting to the American people that spending got us into this mess and less spending and lower taxes would get us out of it.
As the world economy continued to regress, many economists would suggest the United States was about to enter a hard depression. That would causes even more panic and ultimately, the people would take to the streets demanding government action.
That is where we would be with McCain as president. You think it was bad with Bush, well McCain would have sat and watched everything collapse because he established a spending freeze and ultimately would have let everything bottom out. Believing less taxes and less lower spending would turn everything around.
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McCain is so hardcore he would personally shot all the people with the flu and stop the spread of the disease right there! :o ;D
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Based upon what he promised in the election run-up, how would he have handled the wars, the economy, and the flu?
Probably not much different. McCain sucks and was in favor of the bailouts.
The only thing I think he could be trusted on was the budget.
Immigration - Obama/McCain - F
Energy - Obama/McCain - F
Bailouts - Obama/McCain - F
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He'd enforce the exact same policies.
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He would have done the exact same things except without spending as much money, kissing international ass and he would have had a much better qualified cabniet around him.
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He would have done the exact same things except without spending as much money, kissing international ass and he would have had a much better qualified cabniet around him.
Exactly!!!I love it when 240 talks of approval ratings.Hey,Obama has big approval ratings because the media ONLY reports that Obama is God.What has he done?The economy is worse,unemployment is worse,health care is the same,energy is the same,we are still at war,what the fuck has the Messiah done except spend trillions?
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"The fundamentals of the economy are strong" ::)
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"The fundamentals of the economy are strong" ::)
This is why we were screwed either way.
Bush/Obama/McCain are the same on most issues.
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Exactly!!!I love it when 240 talks of approval ratings.Hey,Obama has big approval ratings because the media ONLY reports that Obama is God.What has he done?The economy is worse,unemployment is worse,health care is the same,energy is the same,we are still at war,what the fuck has the Messiah done except spend trillions?
Can't correct the last 8 years of the previous idiot in only 100 days.
Don't worry... Obama has another 2820 days to show what he can do.
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"The fundamentals of the economy are strong" ::)
apparently you missed obamas CHAIR OF ECONOMIC ADVISORS say the exact same thing and obama basically agree with her ::)
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Can't correct the last 8 years of the previous idiot in only 100 days.
Don't worry... Obama has another 2820 days to show what he can do.
I overheard a guy cussing out Bush the other day for "destroying the economy".
Made me smile :)
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Can't correct the last 8 years of the previous idiot in only 100 days.
Don't worry... Obama has another 2820 days to show what he can do.
Oh thats right, taking over majority stakes in Chrysler & GM, endless bailous of AIG, Geithner, proposing massive deficits that dwarf anything Bush did, proposing cap & trade taxes on people is Bushs' fault????
Please, Obama is Bush on massive roids.
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I overheard a guy cussing out Bush the other day for "destroying the economy".
Made me smile :)
i hear obamabots say all the time how he is cutting taxes on the middle class but dont understand that his tripling of the debt will cause middle class slavery for generations to come...makes me want to slap the shit outta some ppl.
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I overheard a guy cussing out Bush the other day for "destroying the economy".
Made me smile :)
Both parties are doing this. Obama is just making sure the collapse happens sooner.
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Obama is just making sure the collapse happens sooner.
Yeah, because little Bush wasn't getting us there fast enough. ::)
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Yeah, because little Bush wasn't getting us there fast enough. ::)
say what you want but this is whats going on here
your either to ignorant to see it or just dont care...
but i hope you enjoy the blame bush mentality that barry is spoon feeding you b/c the next president will more then likely use the same thing to shove shit down the throats of americans just hope you agree with it then too. ::)
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Yeah, because little Bush wasn't getting us there fast enough. ::)
I know you cant and wont understand this, but there is ZERO difference between Bush and Obama on the economy.
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b/c the next president will more then likely use the same thing to shove shit down the throats of americans just hope you agree with it then too. ::)
Is that what you believed back when all the repubs could remark during Bush's term was "But... Clinton..... it was Clinton.... because of Clinton..... wahhhhhhhh"?
Hypocrisy is such a bear trap for Repubs.
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Is that what you believed back when all the repubs could remark during Bush's term was "But... Clinton..... it was Clinton.... because of Clinton..... wahhhhhhhh"?
Hypocrisy is such a bear trap for Repubs.
Do some research for yourself and you will see that Obama is owned and controlled by the same people that owned and controlled GWB.
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Is that what you believed back when all the repubs could remark during Bush's term was "But... Clinton..... it was Clinton.... because of Clinton..... wahhhhhhhh"?
Hypocrisy is such a bear trap for Repubs.
what we said brainchild is obviously different then what your ignorant selective hearing heard, we said it wasnt all bush's fault like you dipshit were yelling we said the blame is spread around, unlike you now who blame it all on bush and give no blame to your messiah obama. SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
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what we said brainchild is obviously different then what your ignorant selective hearing heard, we said it wasnt all bush's fault like you dipshit were yelling we said the blame is spread around, unlike you now who blame it all on bush and give no blame to your messiah obama. SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
Lurker will never say a bad word about his messiah.
This is going to be a sad let down for these people ala Jim Jones.
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Is that what you believed back when all the repubs could remark during Bush's term was "But... Clinton..... it was Clinton.... because of Clinton..... wahhhhhhhh"?
Hypocrisy is such a bear trap for Repubs.
Obama couldnt carry Bill Clintons shoes[in fact hes only qualified to shine his shoes].All you have to do is watch this man when his teleprompter fucks up and see he is lost.Compared to Bill Clinton ,Obama is a midget.
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Obama couldnt carry Bill Clintons shoes[in fact hes only qualified to shine his shoes].All you have to do is watch this man when his teleprompter fucks up and see he is lost.Compared to Bill Clinton ,Obama is a midget.
That was embarassing.
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Exactly!!!I love it when 240 talks of approval ratings.Hey,Obama has big approval ratings because the media ONLY reports that Obama is God.
FOX bashes him 24/7 and has more viewers than anyone. Yet the repub party is still shrinking.
Explain.
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FOX bashes him 24/7 and has more viewers than anyone. Yet the repub party is still shrinking.
Explain.
Its simple.
Obama managed to get more than 50.1% of the population into believing that going on welfare or taking handouts is ok.
The more he promises, the more people approve of him.
Socialism is the easy answer and the cowards' answer to everything.
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FOX bashes him 24/7 and has more viewers than anyone. Yet the repub party is still shrinking.
Explain.
How is the republican party shrinking?Has there been another election cycle I missed?Just a few years ago most thought the democratoic party was finnished,how does that prediction look now?Wait until all the policies go into place.Wait until we get cap and trade in there and peoples utilitiy bills skyrocket.The democrats ALWAYS overplay their hand and they will again.When government health care passes and people cant get into to see their doctor,you will see a political change.Keep spending our money to keep unions like UAW afloat and see what happens.
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McCain would have tried to implement a massive tax cut but it would have been stopped due to having included new regulations about CDOs, tranches and so on.
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How is the republican party shrinking?
anyone have the link to the new poll that was on hardball last night?
They showed the number of people who claimed to be repubs, dems, and independents over the last few months.
Every month, another 1 or 2% of people stopped claiming repub status, and chose independent status. This went back to mid-2008, I believe. Each month, the base eroded and the independent number grew.
Now, you can go ahead and scream about it being some lib poll, and you can say "Zero"s popularity is falling and that the repubs will take back the senate in 2010.
However, facts are facts. Pollster has obama steady climbing and maintaining position in their aggregate of polls. He's saying popular. You have arlen specter dumping the repub party completely to win re-election in 2010. You have a leaderless party and one that isn't going to win anything until it abandons this dinosaur base of abstinence and "let's ignore all the lies of WMD, Iraq, 911, etc".
Get a grip, GOP. Thanks to the web, people aren't stupid anymore. You can't keep jamming bullshit down their throat with a bigger spoon.
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How is the republican party shrinking?Has there been another election cycle I missed?Just a few years ago most thought the democratoic party was finnished,how does that prediction look now?Wait until all the policies go into place.Wait until we get cap and trade in there and peoples utilitiy bills skyrocket.The democrats ALWAYS overplay their hand and they will again.When government health care passes and people cant get into to see their doctor,you will see a political change.Keep spending our money to keep unions like UAW afloat and see what happens.
Conservative commentators have made much of a recent Pew survey showing that public reaction to Obama has been more polarized than to any previous president: Democrats really like him, and Republicans really dislike him. But the poll's most striking statistic was how few Americans now self-identify as Republicans. For the past year it has hovered around 24 percent, the lowest in three decades. It's not so much that the Republican base has shrunk, as Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz points out in a recent essay: the Democratic base has expanded. When Bill Clinton was elected in 1992, the Democratic base was 30 percent of the electorate; swing voters were 43 percent and Republicans 27 percent. Last year Democrats made up 41 percent; swing voters dropped to 32 percent and Republicans stayed put at 27 percent. Because party loyalties tend not to shift quickly, an 11-point rise for the Democrats is astonishing. Abramowitz argues that since these changes are largely rooted in demography—particularly the growing nonwhite population—they are likely to persist for a while.
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Conservative commentators have made much of a recent Pew survey showing that public reaction to Obama has been more polarized than to any previous president: Democrats really like him, and Republicans really dislike him. But the poll's most striking statistic was how few Americans now self-identify as Republicans. For the past year it has hovered around 24 percent, the lowest in three decades. It's not so much that the Republican base has shrunk, as Emory University political scientist Alan Abramowitz points out in a recent essay: the Democratic base has expanded. When Bill Clinton was elected in 1992, the Democratic base was 30 percent of the electorate; swing voters were 43 percent and Republicans 27 percent. Last year Democrats made up 41 percent; swing voters dropped to 32 percent and Republicans stayed put at 27 percent. Because party loyalties tend not to shift quickly, an 11-point rise for the Democrats is astonishing. Abramowitz argues that since these changes are largely rooted in demography—particularly the growing nonwhite population—they are likely to persist for a while.
Well of course, we have 12 million new illegal aliens thanks to GWB and the RATS as well as a new welfare class looking for Obama to pay their mortgage and gas bills.
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Well of course, we have 12 million new illegal aliens thanks to GWB and the RATS as well as a new welfare class looking for Obama to pay their mortgage and gas bills.
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You are right, I am crying for our country having to endure your muslim fascist messiah.
1. Largest deficits in history.
2. Amnesty for illegals
3. Endless Bailouts of failed companies.
4. Tax cheats as his cabinet
5. Cozing up to dictators
6. New Energy Taxes
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You are right, I am crying for our country having to endure your muslim fascist messiah.
1. Largest deficits in history.
2. Amnesty for illegals
3. Endless Bailouts of failed companies.
4. Tax cheats as his cabinet
5. Cozing up to dictators
6. New Energy Taxes
Classic comedy! ;D
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Classic comedy! ;D
Comedy at bankruptcy.
Nice.
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Comedy at bankruptcy.
Nice.
I guess you think bankruptcy is funny, because you sure are posting a lot humor!
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I guess you think bankruptcy is funny, because you sure are posting a lot humor!
Im glad you find humor at 20 million illegal aliens, new energy taxes, cozing up to dictators, etc.
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Im glad you find humor at 20 million illegal aliens, new energy taxes, cozing up to dictators, etc.
he doesnt care bro he is another lurker obamabot who can see no wrong in their messiah.
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Im glad you find humor at 20 million illegal aliens, new energy taxes, cozing up to dictators, etc.
The jokes continue! ;D
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The jokes continue! ;D
The joke is on the taxpayer, obviously one of which you are not.
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The joke is on the taxpayer, obviously one of which you are not.
Don Rickles has got nothing on you! ;D
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Don Rickles has got nothing on you! ;D
After what Bush/Obama has accomplished in less than a year what else is there left to do??
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After what Bush/Obama has accomplished in less than a year what else is there left to do??
"Obama/Bush" ;D
Keep the jokes coming!
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"Obama/Bush" ;D
Keep the jokes coming!
Bush/Paulson is no different than Obama/Geithner
The Fed controls everything, not the President.
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Bush/Paulson is no different than Obama/Geithner
The Fed controls everything, not the President.
Troubling how important it is for you to have the last word. :-\ I'll let you go now, but you should really try standup.
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Troubling how important it is for you to have the last word. :-\ I'll let you go now, but you should really try standup.
If it pays more than debt collection, I'm in.
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Troubling how important it is for you to have the last word. :-\ I'll let you go now, but you should really try standup.
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muslim fascist messiah.
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