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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: theworm on May 02, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
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Down to 2 final versions, which is better for lean hard gains? I prefer the first...
weeks 1-10 test E 500
weeks 1-3 test prop 100 EOD
weekd 11-13 test prop 100 EOD
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sustanon 250, 1cc every 4 days...
any thoughts?
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Weeks 1-10
250mgs of Sust on M
250mgs of Test E on W
250mgs of Sust on F
Weeks 11-14
100mg of Prop EOD.
You will be jacked and hard as fuck by the end of this cycle I guarantee you.
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sounds good.... makes sense too, prob more stable test levels with that cycle....
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sounds good.... makes sense too, prob more stable test levels with that cycle....
yep.
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Gezz Louise worm I thought you had your mind made up. Your making it too difficult, it ain't gonna matter, if your gonna take some test just take it. There is no magic side free, with a guarantee cycle.
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calm down buddy... I like to have dicussions about different cycles, sorry. Just getting various other people's opinions based on their experiences... I thought that was the point of this board?
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Down to 2 final versions, which is better for lean hard gains? I prefer the first...
weeks 1-10 test E 500
weeks 1-3 test prop 100 EOD
weekd 11-13 test prop 100 EOD
OR
sustanon 250, 1cc every 4 days...
any thoughts?
The first cycle is just like doing a straight testoprim d cycle which I got great gains on, but the pain of the prop was too
much to handle. Even oxycontin cant take that pain away.
I would do sustanon 750-1000 mgs a week. Remember test is test is test regardless of the ester. Plus, prop you have more chance of getting gyno. You will blow up on the sust. keep down you're salt, and pay attention to diet. Also Sustanon will work still for a month after you're last inj.
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dude chainsaw go back to the gossip board
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gyno with prop??? huh?
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gyno with prop??? huh?
Sure why not?
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dude chainsaw go back to the gossip board
Why, cause I know what I'm talkin about?
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from a scientific journal:
Esters have no effect on the tendency for the parent steroid to convert to estrogen or DHT (dihydrotestosterone: a more potent metabolite) nor will it effect the overall muscle-building potency of the compound. Any differences in results and side effects that may be noted by bodybuilders who have used various esterified versions of the same base steroid are just issues of timing. Testosterone enanthate causes estrogen related problems more readily than Sustanon, simply because with enanthate testosterone levels will peak and trough much sooner (1-2 week release duration as opposed to 3 or 4). Likewise testosterone suspension is the worst in regards to gyno and water bloat because blood hormone levels peak so quickly with this drug. Instead of waiting weeks for testosterone levels to rise to their highest point, here we are at most looking at a couple of days. Given an equal blood level of testosterone, there would be no difference in the rate of aromatization or DHT conversion between different esters. There is simply no mechanism for this to be possible.
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i don;t think its the shorter or longer ester..
I also don;t agree with flucuating blood levels...
just makes more sence, the more test, the more aromatase will try to convert it.
so yeah. tbomz, you are correct...finally ;)