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Title: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 10:11:41 AM
 :o
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Post by: challenge on May 03, 2009, 10:12:42 AM
Seriously, why post that here?
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Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 10:13:25 AM
Seriously, why post that here?

If you don't appreciate my work, don't look.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: challenge on May 03, 2009, 10:15:02 AM
If you don't appreciate my work, don't look.

Does putting down innocent little girls, make you feel better about yourself?
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Post by: Ex Coelis on May 03, 2009, 10:15:09 AM
thanks, Maury Pauvich
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Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 10:16:27 AM
thanks, Maury Pauvich

Proud to serve the community...
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 10:17:32 AM
Does putting down innocent little girls, make you feel better about yourself?

 ::)

Not putting her down...
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Parker on May 03, 2009, 10:26:14 AM
Damn, she could live on the Shire.

But, it would suck, being her, yes people think you're cute, but toy dogs are a threat to you, as are squirrels, and when she grows up, what dude wants to be with a doll.   
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Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 10:27:57 AM
Damn, she could live on the Shire.

But, it would suck, being her, yes people think you're cute, but toy dogs are a threat to you, as are squirrels, and when she grows up, what dude wants to be with a doll.   

Fetish porn? ???
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: challenge on May 03, 2009, 10:28:46 AM
Fetish porn? ???

Seek help.
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Post by: Tapeworm on May 03, 2009, 10:44:02 AM
Holly Hunter
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Post by: affeman on May 03, 2009, 10:50:07 AM
How old is she in that pics. And how tall will she be when she's fully grown?
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 10:55:28 AM
How old is she in that pics. And how tall will she be when she's fully grown?

4 years old, weiss net
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Post by: Meso_z on May 03, 2009, 10:56:04 AM
Man, youre trolling in the boards lately...
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 10:56:52 AM
Man, youre trolling in the boards lately...

Just for todat, this week going on long break...
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: affeman on May 03, 2009, 10:57:43 AM
Just for todat, this week going on long break...

Finally got a job??
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Post by: calfzilla on May 03, 2009, 12:09:33 PM
I wish her the best in achieving her bodybuilding goals. 
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Post by: JasonH on May 03, 2009, 12:11:52 PM
I wish her the best in achieving her bodybuilding goals. 

 ;D
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Post by: Mars on May 03, 2009, 12:12:03 PM
i liked the thread Deicide!
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 12:15:21 PM
Finally got a job??

No, Dissertation...
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: affeman on May 03, 2009, 12:16:51 PM
No, Dissertation...

How old are u?
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 12:18:26 PM
How old are u?

31...ja, und hab 3 Jahre hart geackert, damit ich mir mein Studium jetzt leisten kann, also nix von wegen ich wuerde nicht arbeiten....
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: affeman on May 03, 2009, 12:21:26 PM
31...ja, und hab 3 Jahre hart geackert, damit ich mir mein Studium jetzt leisten kann, also nix von wegen ich wuerde nicht arbeiten....

Sry, aber aus Leuten die so lange mit ihrem Studium herumdümpeln wird in der Regel nix mehr, kenne genug sehr abschreckende Fälle.

Naja hau rein, Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel.
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Post by: lovemonkey on May 03, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
That's not alnutsakk.
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Post by: Fatpanda on May 03, 2009, 12:23:14 PM
:o
she looks happy  :)
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Schmoe Buster on May 03, 2009, 12:27:31 PM
That's not alnutsakk.

no its not, the little girl has more mass
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 12:32:24 PM
Sry, aber aus Leuten die so lange mit ihrem Studium herumdümpeln wird in der Regel nix mehr, kenne genug sehr abschreckende Fälle.

Naja hau rein, Ausnahmen bestätigen die Regel.


Erstens habe ich schon laengst mein 'Studium' abgeschlossen, und zwar vor 8 Jahren, Dann hab ich etwa 7 Jahre in aller Welt gearbeitet. Das jetztige Studium habe ich dieses Jahr angefangen und es hat nix mit dem alten abgeschlossenen Studium zu tun. Haelst du mich etwa fuer einen von diesen dummen, ewigen Studenten? Ihresgleichen kannte ich und kenne ich, als ich Deutschland gearbeitet hab, doch sowas gibt es nicht in den USA, weil sich niemand das leisten koennte. Aber ihr habt diese armseligen Studenten, die sich wegen ein paar hundert Euro den Zopf zerbrechen. Erbaermliches Gejammer. Dazu gehoere ich nicht. Ich bin nicht mal Deutscher, also bitte wirf mich nicht in einen Topf mit Leuten zusammen, mit denen ich nix zu tun hab.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: MAXX on May 03, 2009, 12:33:04 PM
that's Lee Priest wife show some respect people
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Post by: Ursus on May 03, 2009, 12:39:26 PM
poor girl.

around 100 in world. dont live past 15 generally.

appear to age very fast indeed, high pitched voice, terrible health generally
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 12:44:56 PM
poor girl.

around 100 in world. dont live past 15 generally.

appear to age very fast indeed, high pitched voice, terrible health generally

She doesn't have your genetics Goudy!
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Post by: jehwit on May 03, 2009, 12:50:38 PM
The father looks sexy as hell.
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Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 12:52:14 PM
The father looks sexy as hell.

 :-X
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Ursus on May 03, 2009, 01:03:08 PM
She doesn't have your genetics Goudy!

dude, lol, thats so wrong!
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 01:04:07 PM
dude, lol, thats so wrong!

It's true though! :o
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Post by: CastIron on May 03, 2009, 01:08:53 PM
(http://www.guzer.com/pictures/scared_4_life.jpg)
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Post by: ironneck on May 03, 2009, 01:12:22 PM
ripped glutes on that girl
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Post by: pillowtalk on May 03, 2009, 01:18:57 PM
Fetish porn? ???

You have a point there, she could make a fortune in the 'Adult entertainment' industry. :-X :-X :-X

Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 01:20:10 PM
You have a point there, she could make a fortune in the 'Adult entertainment' industry. :-X :-X :-X



Definitely as a future career...definitely a fortune...
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: pillowtalk on May 03, 2009, 01:23:25 PM
Definitely as a future career...definitely a fortune...

WOW - me & you agree on some-thing, who'da thunk of it ??
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 03, 2009, 01:27:56 PM
WOW - me & you agree on some-thing, who'da thunk of it ??

You and I may agree on far more than you think.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Pollux on May 03, 2009, 01:29:00 PM
Does putting down innocent little girls, make you feel better about yourself?

You're damning the wrong person. Maury Povich exploits them all the time on his show. That and paternity results.  :D
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: pillowtalk on May 03, 2009, 01:30:53 PM
You and I may agree on far more than you think.

Enlighten me..............
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Post by: kiwiol on May 03, 2009, 06:41:06 PM
Vince Basile would give her a ride in his white, unmarked van anytime.
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Post by: body88 on May 03, 2009, 06:43:07 PM
Vince Basile would give her a ride in his white, unmarked van anytime.


You are funny.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: polychronopolous on May 03, 2009, 06:43:35 PM
You're damning the wrong person. Maury Povich exploits them all the time on his show. That and paternity results.  :D

Maury goes after the dirt.
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Post by: challenge on May 03, 2009, 08:03:47 PM
(http://www.guzer.com/pictures/scared_4_life.jpg)

NOW THAT'S FUNNY!!!  ;D
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Post by: TechnoViking on May 03, 2009, 10:27:50 PM
Vince Basile would give her a ride in his white, unmarked van anytime.

LOL!!!
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on May 03, 2009, 11:03:36 PM
thanks, Maury Pauvich
lol
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Post by: nzmusclemonster on May 04, 2009, 12:11:18 AM
ripped glutes on that girl

She has been doing her stiff legged dead lifts.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Fatpanda on May 04, 2009, 01:53:06 AM
Enlighten me..............

he's a jew that pretends he's not jewish and is also a racist and  bigot  :-\
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2009, 01:59:27 AM
he's a jew that pretends he's not jewish and is also a racist and  bigot  :-\

 ::)

A racist? Because I dislike religion? Ehmmm...no.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Fatpanda on May 04, 2009, 02:00:08 AM
::)

A racist? Because I dislike religion? Ehmmm...no.

see that word bigot i used  ;)
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2009, 02:00:45 AM
see that word bigot i used  ;)

Why don't you define precisely what a 'Jew' is....? I bet you can't do it.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: nzmusclemonster on May 04, 2009, 02:03:59 AM
What does all this have to do with a midget and her shredded glutes ???
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2009, 02:08:24 AM
What does all this have to do with a midget and her shredded glutes ???

I have no idea. Fatpanda and others are just obsessed with race.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: nzmusclemonster on May 04, 2009, 02:09:44 AM
I have no idea. Fatpanda and others are just obsessed with race.

How strange.
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Post by: Fatpanda on May 04, 2009, 02:19:56 AM
Why don't you define precisely what a 'Jew' is....? I bet you can't do it.

deicide = jew
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Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2009, 02:31:22 AM
deicide = jew

What criteria are you using for that?

BTW...it seems you are quite obsessed with 'race' here....
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Fatpanda on May 04, 2009, 02:36:50 AM
What criteria are you using for that?

BTW...it seems you are quite obsessed with 'race' here....

i thought you said jews aren't a race ?

changing your argument now are we ?

my criteria is your parents were jews, their parents were jews and so on and so forth back to the time of moses.

the fact you pretend that means nothing is quite amusing as it shows you are ashamed or embarrased  about who you are ???
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2009, 02:44:01 AM
i thought you said jews aren't a race ?

changing your argument now are we ?

my criteria is your parents were jews, their parents were jews and so on and so forth back to the time of moses.

the fact you pretend that means nothing is quite amusing as it shows you are ashamed or embarrased  about who you are ???

LOL. Given the fact that the Bible is not a historical document and the figure 'Moses' likely never existed, this is a spurious argument. Besides you still haven't defined what a 'Jew' is...it means nothing because most 'Jews' are indistinguishable from most Europeans. It is a cultural invention, a fiction, much like any other cultural idea/ideology.
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Post by: Fatpanda on May 04, 2009, 02:49:27 AM
LOL. Given the fact that the Bible is not a historical document and the figure 'Moses' likely never existed, this is a spurious argument. Besides you still haven't defined what a 'Jew' is...it means nothing because most 'Jews' are indistinguishable from most Europeans. It is a cultural invention, a fiction, much like any other cultural idea/ideology.

so you are claiming that the egyptians just let all the slaves resign ?

are you claiming the exodus did not happen ?

interesting - first you deny your genetic lineage, then you deny the entire religion and claim its a work of fiction  ::)

issues - you have them
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2009, 03:05:08 AM
so you are claiming that the egyptians just let all the slaves resign ?

are you claiming the exodus did not happen ?

interesting - first you deny your genetic lineage, then you deny the entire religion and claim its a work of fiction  ::)

issues - you have them

It is a well know archaeological fact that Exodus is fiction, that there were no 400,000 Hebrew slaves wandering throught he desert. The Bible was not composed at that time, rather centuries later and is primarily a piece of propaganda designed to glorify a certain group of people.

Many archaeologists[22], including Israel Finkelstein, Ze'ev Herzog and William G. Dever, regard the Exodus as non-historical, at best containing a small germ of truth. In his book, The Bible Unearthed, Finkelstein points to the appearance of settlements in the central hill country around 1200 BCE, recognized by most archaeologists as the earliest settlements of the Israelites.[23] Using evidence from earlier periods, he shows a cyclical pattern to these highland settlements, corresponding to the state of the surrounding cultures. Finkelstein suggests that the local Canaanites would adapt their way of living from an agricultural lifestyle to a nomadic one and vice versa. When Egyptian rule collapsed after the invasion of the Sea Peoples, the central hill country could no longer sustain a large nomadic population, so they went from nomadism to sedentism.[19] Dever agrees with the Canaanite origin of the Israelites but allows for the possibility of a Semitic tribe coming from Egyptian servitude among the early hilltop settlers and that Moses or a Moses-like figure may have existed in Transjordan ca 1250-1200.[24]
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Post by: Fatpanda on May 04, 2009, 03:07:13 AM
It is a well know archaeological fact that Exodus is fiction, that there were no 400,000 Hebrew slaves wandering throught he desert. The Bible was not composed at that time, rather centuries later and is primarily a piece of propaganda designed to glorify a certain group of people.

Many archaeologists[22], including Israel Finkelstein, Ze'ev Herzog and William G. Dever, regard the Exodus as non-historical, at best containing a small germ of truth. In his book, The Bible Unearthed, Finkelstein points to the appearance of settlements in the central hill country around 1200 BCE, recognized by most archaeologists as the earliest settlements of the Israelites.[23] Using evidence from earlier periods, he shows a cyclical pattern to these highland settlements, corresponding to the state of the surrounding cultures. Finkelstein suggests that the local Canaanites would adapt their way of living from an agricultural lifestyle to a nomadic one and vice versa. When Egyptian rule collapsed after the invasion of the Sea Peoples, the central hill country could no longer sustain a large nomadic population, so they went from nomadism to sedentism.[19] Dever agrees with the Canaanite origin of the Israelites but allows for the possibility of a Semitic tribe coming from Egyptian servitude among the early hilltop settlers and that Moses or a Moses-like figure may have existed in Transjordan ca 1250-1200.[24]

hahahaha again with 'the bible unearthed' hahahahahaha

you really should look at more varied sources of religious invesitgation.
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Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2009, 03:09:31 AM
hahahaha again with 'the bible unearthed' hahahahahaha

you really should look at more varied sources of religious invesitgation.

Since I am interested in facts I will stick to archaeology not fundy driven propaganda. Since you clearly believe the Bible to be some sort of historical document you have just lost much credibility. You should read Finkelstein's work; it is one of the best out there.
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Post by: Fatpanda on May 04, 2009, 03:20:45 AM
Since I am interested in facts I will stick to archaeology not fundy driven propaganda. Since you clearly believe the Bible to be some sort of historical document you have just lost much credibility. You should read Finkelstein's work; it is one of the best out there.

where did i claim the bible was a historical document ?

i simply pointed out you should look further a field than 1 book, that every one of your arguments comes from.  :-\
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Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2009, 03:22:18 AM
where did i claim the bible was a historical document ?

i simply pointed out you should look further a field than 1 book, that every one of your arguments comes from.  :-\

See post in other thread. Nullum tempus habeo et pacem tecum facere volo.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Tapeworm on May 04, 2009, 03:58:35 AM
Deicide, I heard that the ancient Assyrians spoke a semitic language like the Hebrews.  What exactly is a 'semitic language' and what is the common origin of that family of languages?
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 04, 2009, 04:13:19 AM
Deicide, I heard that the ancient Assyrians spoke a semitic language like the Hebrews.  What exactly is a 'semitic language' and what is the common origin of that family of languages?

I promise I will answer tomorrow...I have to type for my MA now for the rest of the day. :)
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Post by: Tapeworm on May 04, 2009, 10:18:50 PM
I promise I will answer tomorrow...I have to type for my MA now for the rest of the day. :)

No worries man.  I'd also be interested to hear your opinion on the grouping of ancient people by language rather than by ethnicity, political structure, culture, etc.  It seems odd to me.  You couldn't apply that sort of classification today unless you were very well acquainted with the differences in dialect within a language (such as Iberian Spanish and Mexican Spanish, 2 different peoples with a common language).  Also, languages evolve while the group remains the same.  Americans of 1800 would speak a different English than modern day Americans.  Wouldn't this sort of classification system require historians to be expert linguists?  Why did it become the classification of choice?
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Post by: lovemonkey on May 05, 2009, 09:09:04 AM
so you are claiming that the egyptians just let all the slaves resign ?

are you claiming the exodus did not happen ?

interesting - first you deny your genetic lineage, then you deny the entire religion and claim its a work of fiction  ::)

issues - you have them

O.M.F.G you have to be a gimmick with the sole purpose to rile us up. No fuckin way you can be this stupid, just no way.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Tombo on May 05, 2009, 02:53:25 PM
hahahaha again with 'the bible unearthed' hahahahahaha

you really should look at more varied sources of religious invesitgation.

how bout you do the same? just sounds like all you do is contend his claims with questions
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Fatpanda on May 07, 2009, 01:57:51 AM
O.M.F.G you have to be a gimmick with the sole purpose to rile us up. No fuckin way you can be this stupid, just no way.
hahahaha still melting i see.

how bout you do the same? just sounds like all you do is contend his claims with questions

you are badly mistaken if you think that, i post on many threads and provide many references andsources that back my claims and thoughts - have you read any of my posts  ::)
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: lovemonkey on May 11, 2009, 06:04:27 AM
hahahaha still melting i see.

The irony of someone writing "hahahahahahahhaahah" all over the place and calling out meltdowns on others, oh brother.

You really are stupid, believes in crackpot pseudo-science and know next to nothing about history and religion.
Title: Re: Smallest girl in the world; primordial dwarfism...
Post by: Deicide on May 11, 2009, 06:17:02 AM
No worries man.  I'd also be interested to hear your opinion on the grouping of ancient people by language rather than by ethnicity, political structure, culture, etc.  It seems odd to me.  You couldn't apply that sort of classification today unless you were very well acquainted with the differences in dialect within a language (such as Iberian Spanish and Mexican Spanish, 2 different peoples with a common language).  Also, languages evolve while the group remains the same.  Americans of 1800 would speak a different English than modern day Americans.  Wouldn't this sort of classification system require historians to be expert linguists?  Why did it become the classification of choice?

Sorry about that. A Semitic language is simply a language which belongs to that language family, more technically they genetically related to each other. Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic and the extinct Akkadian all belong to this group and share common grammatical and phonological features.  When one posits a genetic language tree the assumption is that they all descend from a 'Proto-Language' so without a doubt, at some point in time likely MANY millenia ago, all the Semitic languages were the same and they broke off from each other.

With regards to your comments here, there are two types of language classification; genetic and typological. Genetic classification, whilst relying on on common phenomena found amongst several languages will also pair languages up that have diverged greatly. Typological classification is just that, matching languages up by type, irrespective of genetic relations, so for example it would be possible in this form of classification to match up a native American language with similar characteristics to English but not on a genetic basis. That said, it is often muddier than that.

True, languages change. The technical point where one starts calling them different things CAN be reasonably simple. We have a good historical example of this in the history of Romance languages. We know (we have many documents) that at some point in time the languages of Italy, France and Spain were nearly identical, however, as time passed each region developed its own idiosyncracies and eventually diverged from each other to the point of mutual unintelligibility. At that point we can start calling them separate languages. Still this ignores the issue of politics. Swedish and Norwegian are so similar to each other as to be 80% mutually intelligible but are called different languages, but in China you have completely different languages relegated to the status of 'dialects' by dint of political influence and will.
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Post by: Parker on May 11, 2009, 07:22:14 AM
You're damning the wrong person. Maury Povich exploits them all the time on his show. That and paternity results.  :D


he does, and for the life of me, I can't see why people don't see it. I mean having the babies come out with their stomachs cest showing how fat they are. Or having a them in a room by themselves with donuts, and tons of fast food for them, just to watch what they are gonna do.

And then the paternity results, why doesn't he  help these women have higher self esteem as to not get impregnated by  dudes, so that they don't have to come on his show and be embarassed, shocked, or humiliated...Well that of course would take away from his ratings.