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Nasa Faked the Moon Landings
And Arthur C. Clarke wrote the script, at least in one version of the story. Space skeptics point to holes in the Apollo archive (like missing transcripts and blueprints) or oddities in the mission photos (misplaced crosshairs, funny shadows). A third of respondents to a 1970 poll thought something was fishy about mankind's giant leap. Today, 94 percent accept the official version... Saps!
The US Government Was Behind 9/11
Or Jews. Or Jews in the US government. The documentary Loose Change claimed to find major flaws in the official story — like the dearth of plane debris at the site of the Pentagon blast and that jet fule alone could never vaporize a whole 757. Judge for yourself: After Popular Mechanics debunked the theory, the magazine's editors faced off with proponents in a debate, available on YouTube.
Princess Diana Was Murdered
Rumors ran wild after Princess Diana's fatal 1997 car crash, and they haven't stopped yet. Reigning theories: She faked her death to escape the media's glare, or the royals snuffed her out (via MI6) to keep her from marrying her Muslim boyfriend. For the latest scenarios, check out www.alfayed.com, the Web site of her boyfriend's dad, Mohamed Al Fayed.
The Jews Run Hollywood and Wall Street
A forged 19th-century Russian manuscript called "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" (virtually required reading in Nazi Germany) purports to lay out a Jewish plot to control media and finance, and thus the world. Several studies have exposed the text as a hoax, but it's still available in numerous languages and editions.
The Scientologists Run Hollywood
The long list of celebrities who have had Dianetics on their nightstands fuels rumors that the Church of Scientology pulls the strings in Tinseltown — vetting deals, arranging marriages, and spying on stars. The much older theory is that Jews run Hollywood, and the Scientologists have to settle for running Tom Cruise.
Paul Is Dead
Maybe you're amazed, but in 1969 major news outlets reported on rumors of the cute Beatle's death and replacement by a look-alike. True believers pointed to a series of clues buried in the Fab Four's songs and album covers. Even for skeptics, McCartney's later solo career lent credibility to the theory.
AIDS Is a Man-Made Disease
A number of scientists have argued that HIV was cooked up in a lab, either for bioweapons research or in a genocidal plot to wipe out gays and/or minorities. Who supposedly did the cooking? US Army scientists, Russian scientists, or the CIA. Mainstream researchers point to substantial evidence that HIV jumped species from African monkeys to humans.
Church's Fried Chicken Sterilizes Black Men
Sociologists call this decades-old urban legend a cultural echo of the very real syphilis study carried out on blacks in Tuskegee, Alabama. In another version, KFC is the culprit — and secretly run by the KKK. There's less controversy over whether the biscuits clog your arteries.
Lizard-People Run the World
If a science fiction-based religion isn't exotic enough, followers of onetime BBC reporter David Icke believe that certain powerful people — like George W. Bush and the British royals — actually belong to an alien race of shape-shifting lizard-people. Icke claims Princess Diana confirmed this to one of her close friends; other lizard theories (there are several) point to reptilian themes in ancient mythology. And let's not forget the '80s TV show V.
The Illuminati Run the World
The ur-conspiracy theory holds that the world's corporate and political leaders are all members of an ancient cabal: Illuminati, Rosicrucians, Freemasons — take your pick. It doesn't help that those secret societies really existed (George Washington was a Mason). Newer variations implicate the Trilateral Commission, the New World Order, and Yale's Skull and Bones society.
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Top 10 Wackiest Conspiracy Theories
Published on 1/16/2006
Dinosauroid-like Alien Reptiles are dominating the World
Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were Reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift.
David Icke's --BBC reporter-- claims that humanity is actually under the control of dinosauroid-like alien reptiles who must consume human blood to maintain their human appearance.
"Evidence" goes from Sumerian tablets describing the "Anunnaki" (which he translates as "those who from heaven to earth came"), to the serpent in the Biblical Garden of Eden, to child abuse, fluoridation, and the genealogical connections between the Bush family and the House of Windsor.
Icke theorizes that the reptilians came here from the constellation Draco. Like most conspiracy theories, falsification of Icke's hypotheses is nearly impossible, but Icke continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.
Apollo 11 Moon Landings were faked by NASA
Proponents of the Apollo moon landing hoax accusations allege that the Apollo Moon Landings never took place, and were faked by NASA with possible CIA support. Enthusiasts of this theory claim that:
# The astronauts could not have survived the trip because of exposure to radiation
# The photos were altered: the Crosshairs on some photos appear to be behind objects, rather than in front of them where they should be
# The quality of the photographs is implausibly high.
# There are no stars in any of the photos, and astronauts never report seeing any stars from the capsule windows.
# Identical backgrounds in photos that are listed as taken miles apart.
# The moon's surface during the daytime is so hot that camera film would have melted.
# No blast crater appeared from the landing
# The launch rocket produced no visible flame.
# The flag placed on the surface by the astronauts flapped despite there being no wind on the Moon.
September 11 was orchestrated by the U. S. government
A number of urban myths, alternative hypotheses and conspiracy theories have been formulated to explain the events of September 11th:
# The U.S., Israel or Iraq government orchestrated the attacks themselves.
# The Twin Towers fell straight down, at close to free-fall speed. This is a similar characteristic of a controlled demolition. The dust cloud and its make up are considered un-characteristic of a gravity-driven collapse.
# It is often pointed out that no steel building before or since the 9-11 attack has collapsed as the result of fire.
# The rubble of the Twin Towers smoldered for weeks after the collapse. This claim is meant to point out that steel could only have smoldered as a result of pre-placed explosives.
# Some consider photographic evidence of the plane lying on the grounds of the Pentagon to be ambiguous and unconvincing, citing a visual lack of burnt metal, human remains, passenger's luggage or seats.
# The Pentagon was struck in a newly renovated, reinforced section. Some speculate this location, the west side of the complex, to be indicative of government involvement, noting it as an attempt to reduce casualties.
# Flight 77 was able to fly in the direction of the DC and Pentagon area for approximately 40 minutes without interception. This is thought to be unusual given the Pentagon's close proximity to Andrews Air Force Base.
# There are claims that anti-missile batteries at the Pentagon should have intercepted Flight 77.
# The FBI confiscated a video, which may have captured the impact, from a nearby gas station attended by Jose Velasquez. This video has not yet been released.
Barcodes are really intended to Control people
Some conspiracy theorists have proposed that barcodes are really intended to serve as means of control by a putative world government, or that they are Satanic in intent.
Mary Stewart Relfe claims in "The New Money System 666" that barcodes secretly encode the number 666 - the Biblical "Number of the Beast".
This theory has been adopted by other fringe figures such as the "oracle" Sollog, who refuses to label any of his books with barcodes on the grounds that "any type of computer numbering systems MANDATED by any government or business is part of the PROPHECY of the BEAST controlling you."
Charlemagne never existed, is a fictional character
Phantom time hypothesis is a theory developed by Heribert Illig which suggests that the Early Middle Ages (614–911 CE) never occurred, meaning that all artifacts attributed to this time period were from other times, and all historical figures were outright fabrications.
One consequence of Illig's hypothesis is that Charlemagne never existed but is a fictional character. The vast majority of historians believe this theory to be complete fiction, as all cited evidence can be considered circumstantial.
The Truth is out there, on Area 51
The secretive nature of Area 51 and undoubted connection to classified aircraft research, together with reports of unusual phenomena, have led Area 51 to become a centerpiece of modern UFO and conspiracy theory folklore. Some of the unconventional activities claimed to be underway at Area 51 include:
# The storage, examination, and reverse engineering of crashed alien spacecraft (including material supposedly recovered at Roswell), the study of their occupants (living and dead), and the manufacture of aircraft based on alien technology.
# Meetings or joint undertakings with extraterrestrials.
# The development of exotic energy weapons (for SDI applications or otherwise) or means of weather control.
# Activities related to a supposed shadowy world government.
Microsoft sends messages on Wingdings Font
The Wingdings Font included with Windows has a history of controversy. In 1992, only days after the release of Windows 3.1, it was discovered that the character sequence "NYC" in Wingdings was rendered as Skull and crossbones symbol, Star of David, and thumbs up gesture. This could be interpreted as a message of approval of killing Jews, especially those from New York City.
Microsoft strongly denied this was intentional, and insisted that the final arrangement of the glyphs in the font was largely random. Various other combinations of Wingings characters are alleged to have special significance by conspiracy theorists, but these results are likely purely coincidental.
U.S. military caused the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami
Popular Arab news services claim the U.S. and Indian militaries deliberately caused the Indian Ocean tsunamis with electromagnetic pulse technology.
Another type of theory bases its claims on oil and gas interests. Others also reason that the technology is at least feasible if not highly probable since research into such technology has been conducted by the military as far back as World War II.
The Nazis had a Moon Base
Esoteric Hitlerists and conspiracy theorists interested in Nazi mysticism and World War II have speculated that the Germans landed on the Moon as early as 1942.
According to other theories it is believed that the Nazis had made contact with 'half a dozen' alien races, including the malevolent Reptilians.
Kentucky Fried Chicken makes black men impotent
It is sometimes claimed that the Kentucky Fried Chicken franchise is owned by the Ku Klux Klan, and the chicken is laced with a drug that makes only black men impotent.
Ironically, the KFC franchise is actually owned by an African-American.
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the best conspiracy theory is to come up with the words "conspiracy theory" thus anyone that believes in one is a looney...
a convenient "push under the rug"
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Oh goodness OZ you opened a can of worms here this thread will be HUGE :o
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the best conspiracy theory is to come up with the words "conspiracy theory" thus anyone that believes in one is a looney...
a convenient "push under the rug"
Oh yeah, never mind that the theories themselves are loony....
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Oh goodness OZ you opened a can of worms here this thread will be HUGE :o
Yeah but this is some good shit here. I had no idea the extent of some of these. ;D
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My favorite is Lizard People run the world. I have proof, Condi was actually running everything and she looks like a frog and we all know frogs are lizards... without scales... in a different class... but close enough >:(
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The Jews Run Hollywood and Wall Street
A forged 19th-century Russian manuscript called "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" (virtually required reading in Nazi Germany) purports to lay out a Jewish plot to control media and finance, and thus the world. Several studies have exposed the text as a hoax, but it's still available in numerous languages and editions.
err the hollywood thing is actually true...my grandad is jewish and worked as a film director (mostly on commercials) but did some work in hollywood, almost all the men with deep pockets were also jewish according to him.
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The Illuminati Run the World
The ur-conspiracy theory holds that the world's corporate and political leaders are all members of an ancient cabal: Illuminati, Rosicrucians, Freemasons — take your pick. It doesn't help that those secret societies really existed (George Washington was a Mason). Newer variations implicate the Trilateral Commission, the New World Order, and Yale's Skull and Bones society.
The 'CFR' would have been a better option 'IMO'
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My favorite is Lizard People run the world. I have proof, Condi was actually running everything and she looks like a frog and we all know frogs are lizards... without scales... in a different class... but close enough >:(
Condi was running everything??? you don't say... I thought it was Cheney..you know..the other lizard...
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Condi was running everything??? you don't say... I thought it was Cheney..you know..the other lizard...
Vader? He didn't run things, that was the emperor who we know here on earth as the frog lady, condi.
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My favorite is Lizard People run the world. I have proof, Condi was actually running everything and she looks like a frog and we all know frogs are lizards... without scales... in a different class... but close enough >:(
That one cracks me up. It's even funnier considering there are about a dozen getbiggers who honestly believe it and have spent more than a few hours trying to prove it.
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That one cracks me up. It's even funnier considering there are about a dozen getbiggers who honestly believe it and have spent more than a few hours trying to prove it.
true, wtf :-\
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After seeing Samson's thread today, it got me thinking. Why does every NWO scheme or world control plot involve the worshiping of Satan? Why Satan? Why not God? Why not a frilly pink pony? Never understood that.
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Here is another goody:
3. Flat Earth Society
In 1956, Samuel Shelton founded a society that subscribed to a theory about the shape of the Earth -- namely, that it's flat.
In 1956, Samuel Shelton founded a society that subscribed to a theory about the shape of the Earth -- namely, that it's flat. Shelton based his theory upon what he called common sense and personal observation. He called the scientific evidence for a globe-shaped Earth "dogmatic," meaning scientists were making this claim without adequate evidence. Later, when people showed him pictures of the Earth taken by satellites, Shelton claimed the photos were fake. He and the members of his society continued to support the idea that the Earth is flat and that those who disagree are part of a conspiracy to keep the truth about the Earth hidden.
Shelton died in 1971, and leadership of the society passed to Charles Johnson. Johnson led the society until his death in 2001. Without leadership, the society fell apart. Critics of the Flat Earth Society say that its members simply deny any evidence that conflicts with their world view without offering real alternative hypotheses.
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After seeing Samson's thread today, it got me thinking. Why does every NWO scheme or world control plot involve the worshiping of Satan? Why Satan? Why not God? Why not a frilly pink pony? Never understood that.
because so many are Christian so it's standard to blame that boogyman. What?!? Satan? Oh Fuck...
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because so many are Christian so it's standard to blame that boogyman. What?!? Satan? Oh Fuck...
See, I thought that, but then people are always quick to point out that the Jews and Whites scheming to rule the world aren't practicing any of their religions.. Contradictions, contradictions.
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See, I thought that, but then people are always quick to point out that the Jews and Whites scheming to rule the world aren't practicing any of their religions.. Contradictions, contradictions.
But they are, because they are in possession of secret scriptures.
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But they are, because they are in possession of secret scriptures.
Wouldn't they think they're doing God's work by bringing together all the people on Earth? I don't see the benefit of worshipping Satan. Sounds like good ol' conspiracy theorist fear mongering.
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Vader? He didn't run things, that was the emperor who we know here on earth as the frog lady, condi.
Now I see...I had it wrong all along. I used to wonder why she would wear her hair over one eye...must be an emperor thing... or was that eye special and used for some other reason like as a WMD??....
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The Jews Run Hollywood and Wall Street
A forged 19th-century Russian manuscript called "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" (virtually required reading in Nazi Germany) purports to lay out a Jewish plot to control media and finance, and thus the world. Several studies have exposed the text as a hoax, but it's still available in numerous languages and editions.
FACT: The protocols have NEVER been proven to be a hoax, that has merely been asserted to be the case based upon [count them] a mere THREE passages - of which comprise NO MORE THAN EIGHT SENTENCES - from Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell. They may be a hoax, but it is incorrect to state that this has been proven.
A couple of things: [a] the passages are not direct copies, but convey valid context, plagiarized or otherwise, and [b.] I mean, yeah, the original Jewish authors wouldn't have included such a thing themselves now would they?
FACT: Far stronger than any poor claims of forgery, is the fact that 22 of the 24 protocols have come to pass; but of course, you wouldn't know that, why? because you are oblivious and haven't read the Protocols in the first place.
Also, you [de facto] stated that "the Jews do not in fact run Hollywood". Now that you have made such a statement, we are free to infer that you are fully able to tell us who does in fact control Hollywood/media; you can do that, right? By the way, that's a rhetorical question, of course you can't tell us.
As said, you cant tell us, so you have just revealed yourself to be filling us with empty rhetoric.
So you say Jews don't own Hollywood? Well apparently Jewish journalist Joel Stein disagrees with you on that:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column
Did I mention that he is Jewish?
Addendum to this, please feel free to point to ANY media outlet that prescribes program content differing from that which ticks the acceptable content as laid down by those responsible for birthing the sixties counter culture of the Frankfurt school, oh yeah, again, you can't. They ALL endorse the same Marxist agenda.
Despite your asinine ad hominem, the folks whom state "Jews control the media" do so from a position of researching said fact over several decades; they do not simply parrot a "conspiracy theory" in the brain dead memetic fashion that you, ironically, have done by opening this thread.
Let's be objective here - I want you to list the CEOs and major players of the six major conglomerates and whether or not they are Jewish. Do it - RIGHT NOW.
Do you disagree? Alright fine - then tell us exactly who does control the media. Be OBJECTIVE. Be SPECIFIC. I want the exact names of media heads listed here. This should be no problem at all since Jews do not control the media as you say.
Who owns getbig? ;D
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My favorite is Lizard People run the world. I have proof, Condi was actually running everything and she looks like a frog and we all know frogs are lizards... without scales... in a different class... but close enough >:(
Blame the 'UK's' resident seeker of 'Alms' for that one - the right honorable (read - what a wanker) David Icke.
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FACT: Far stronger than any poor claims of forgery, is the fact that 22 of the 24 protocols have come to pass; but of course, you wouldn't know that, why? because you are oblivious and haven't read the Protocols in the first place.
Also, you [de facto] stated that "the Jews do not in fact run Hollywood". Now that you have made such a statement, we are free to infer that you are fully able to tell us who does in fact control Hollywood/media; you can do that, right? By the way, that's a rhetorical question, of course you can't tell us.
Ozmo - Ozmo.
Now you gone & done it.
Look a cu-nt now, huh.
Well, Matt is waiting, so - off you trot (like the little Piggy that is you) & try to find some weak ass rhetoric on Google.
Twat.
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FACT: The protocols have NEVER been proven to be a hoax, that has merely been asserted to be the case based upon [count them] a mere THREE passages - of which comprise NO MORE THAN EIGHT SENTENCES - from Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell. They may be a hoax, but it is incorrect to state that this has been proven.
A couple of things: [a] the passages are not direct copies, but convey valid context, plagiarized or otherwise, and [b.] I mean, yeah, the original Jewish authors wouldn't have included such a thing themselves now would they?
FACT: Far stronger than any poor claims of forgery, is the fact that 22 of the 24 protocols have come to pass; but of course, you wouldn't know that, why? because you are oblivious and haven't read the Protocols in the first place.
Also, you [de facto] stated that "the Jews do not in fact run Hollywood". Now that you have made such a statement, we are free to infer that you are fully able to tell us who does in fact control Hollywood/media; you can do that, right? By the way, that's a rhetorical question, of course you can't tell us.
As said, you cant tell us, so you have just revealed yourself to be filling us with empty rhetoric.
So you say Jews don't own Hollywood? Well apparently Jewish journalist Joel Stein disagrees with you on that:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column
Did I mention that he is Jewish?
Addendum to this, please feel free to point to ANY media outlet that prescribes program content differing from that which ticks the acceptable content as laid down by those responsible for birthing the sixties counter culture of the Frankfurt school, oh yeah, again, you can't. They ALL endorse the same Marxist agenda.
Despite your asinine ad hominem, the folks whom state "Jews control the media" do so from a position of researching said fact over several decades; they do not simply parrot a "conspiracy theory" in the brain dead memetic fashion that you, ironically, have done by opening this thread.
Let's be objective here - I want you to list the CEOs and major players of the six major conglomerates and whether or not they are Jewish. Do it - RIGHT NOW.
Do you disagree? Alright fine - then tell us exactly who does control the media. Be OBJECTIVE. Be SPECIFIC. I want the exact names of media heads listed here. This should be no problem at all since Jews do not control the media as you say.
Who owns getbig? ;D
Shit, Matt, just when we were getting used to having you around again....
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Shit, Matt, just when we were getting used to having you around again....
LOL!!!!
Ron says that it is alright as long as I leave it to the Politics board.
Keep in mind, I cited a JEWISH source just to prove that I am NOT being a conspiracy nut! If I am a conspiracy nut, so too is Jewish journalist Joel Stein. :)
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LOL!!!!
Ron says that it is alright as long as I leave it to the Politics board.
Keep in mind, I cited a JEWISH source just to prove that I am NOT being a conspiracy nut! If I am a conspiracy nut, so too is Jewish journalist Joel Stein. :)
mate you could have just read my earlier post about my grandfather
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the best conspiracy theory is to come up with the words "conspiracy theory" thus anyone that believes in one is a looney...
a convenient "push under the rug"
I shall fetch a quote of mine from about 8 weeks ago (from another board) that says just that.
Word for word almost, although a longer version of that theme.
How the term 'Conspiracy theory' became demonized in the first place, & why.
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because so many are Christian so it's standard to blame that boogyman. What?!? Satan? Oh Fuck...
I think the deity to which you refer is actually 'Babylonian' in origin & has had many names - over 1000's of years.
Some, twat, who made a short - JOO-TUBE - clip, decided to use the judeo-Christian reference is all.
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Despite your asinine ad hominem, the folks whom state "Jews control the media" do so from a position of researching said fact over several decades; they do not simply parrot a "conspiracy theory" in the brain dead memetic fashion that you, ironically, have done by opening this thread.
Let's be objective here - I want you to list the CEOs and major players of the six major conglomerates and whether or not they are Jewish. Do it - RIGHT NOW.
Do you disagree? Alright fine - then tell us exactly who does control the media. Be OBJECTIVE. Be SPECIFIC. I want the exact names of media heads listed here. This should be no problem at all since Jews do not control the media as you say.
Who owns getbig? ;D
OK - let's - GO -GO -GO.
While your trotting off in that direction to find a non-existent answer.
Could you also get me the list of WHO controls the 'CFR' (council on foreign relations) - 'BTW' your first lady has her name down as an official member.
Her husband when asked about his membership - well, all you get is - eeerrrrrr/uuuuumm/ I don't know if I am an official member, there is - NO- official membership, just a bunch of (un-elected) people talking over foreign policy (his words).
His wife is an official member, FFS - take a look at the 'CRF' official web-site - JEEEEEEEEEEEEZ - how anesthetized are you, like, coma status ??
How much ass kissing does he (Obama) do when he talks at 'AIPAC' events ??
Tell you what, you tell me !!
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Ozmo - Ozmo.
Now you gone & done it.
Look a cu-nt now, huh.
Well, Matt is waiting, so - off you trot (like the little Piggy that is you) & try to find some weak ass rhetoric on Google.
Twat.
Did i hear something from the cowardly clown?
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Did i hear something from the cowardly clown?
An answer would be nice.
Take your time, but Ad-Hominem is a good staling tactic.
Note to self; OzmO is not going to get very far with this one. :-*
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Get very far with what one?
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Nasa Faked the Moon Landings
And Arthur C. Clarke wrote the script, at least in one version of the story. Space skeptics point to holes in the Apollo archive (like missing transcripts and blueprints) or oddities in the mission photos (misplaced crosshairs, funny shadows). A third of respondents to a 1970 poll thought something was fishy about mankind's giant leap. Today, 94 percent accept the official version... Saps!
Let me get this straight, 40 yrs after Apollo "landed on the Moon" we've lost 50% of our Space Shuttle fleet doing Low Orbits, but never lost an Apollo craft on a Moon mission? Yeah ok makes sense. ::)
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Let me get this straight, 40 yrs after Apollo "landed on the Moon" we've lost 50% of our Space Shuttle fleet doing Low Orbits, but never lost an Apollo craft on a Moon mission? Yeah ok makes sense. ::)
Wow, great logic. So going by that logic the accident rate of cars/trains/etc should have been exponentially higher in the past? ::)
So at the time that Jesus was walking around it was safer to be in a cross than to walk around and take a chance to get killed in a chariot accident?
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Wow, great logic. So going by that logic the accident rate of cars/trains/etc should have been exponentially higher in the past? ::)
So at the time that Jesus was walking around it was safer to be in a cross than to walk around and take a chance to get killed in a chariot accident?
I agree its very flawed logic similar to those used by all Ct'ers.
But I was reading in the book "Traffic" a few months back and the fatality rate of pedestrians due to horse carriage accidents in the late 1800's in Manhattan was higher than it is today.
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FACT: The protocols have NEVER been proven to be a hoax, that has merely been asserted to be the case based upon [count them] a mere THREE passages - of which comprise NO MORE THAN EIGHT SENTENCES - from Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell. They may be a hoax, but it is incorrect to state that this has been proven.
A couple of things: [a] the passages are not direct copies, but convey valid context, plagiarized or otherwise, and [b.] I mean, yeah, the original Jewish authors wouldn't have included such a thing themselves now would they?
FACT: Far stronger than any poor claims of forgery, is the fact that 22 of the 24 protocols have come to pass; but of course, you wouldn't know that, why? because you are oblivious and haven't read the Protocols in the first place.
Also, you [de facto] stated that "the Jews do not in fact run Hollywood". Now that you have made such a statement, we are free to infer that you are fully able to tell us who does in fact control Hollywood/media; you can do that, right? By the way, that's a rhetorical question, of course you can't tell us.
As said, you cant tell us, so you have just revealed yourself to be filling us with empty rhetoric.
So you say Jews don't own Hollywood? Well apparently Jewish journalist Joel Stein disagrees with you on that:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column
Did I mention that he is Jewish?
Addendum to this, please feel free to point to ANY media outlet that prescribes program content differing from that which ticks the acceptable content as laid down by those responsible for birthing the sixties counter culture of the Frankfurt school, oh yeah, again, you can't. They ALL endorse the same Marxist agenda.
Despite your asinine ad hominem, the folks whom state "Jews control the media" do so from a position of researching said fact over several decades; they do not simply parrot a "conspiracy theory" in the brain dead memetic fashion that you, ironically, have done by opening this thread.
Let's be objective here - I want you to list the CEOs and major players of the six major conglomerates and whether or not they are Jewish. Do it - RIGHT NOW.
Do you disagree? Alright fine - then tell us exactly who does control the media. Be OBJECTIVE. Be SPECIFIC. I want the exact names of media heads listed here. This should be no problem at all since Jews do not control the media as you say.
Who owns getbig? ;D
This sounds like interesting stuff. I need to check it out. I just posted up 2 lists of popular conspiracy theories. I wasn't trying to debunk every one of them. I've centered around debunking the 9/11 and JFK ones.
Interesting about those who own the media..... Are these Jewish owners then all liberals too? :D
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Get very far with what one?
This one eyed man being King in the land of the blind, one. ;)
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I agree its very flawed logic similar to those used by all Ct'ers.
But I was reading in the book "Traffic" a few months back and the fatality rate of pedestrians due to horse carriage accidents in the late 1800's in Manhattan was higher than it is today.
I'm sure that it was more dangerous than since it was much less in order but that still doesn't contradict my point (I know you're agreeing with me, I'm just countering before the morons here will try to chime in).
Did you see the graph I posted of Steel strength vs heating? Not even on 9/11 CT fan had the balls to comment on it, just like when I posted the video of a blacksmith they went ape shit and started posting lame videos LOL ;D
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This one eyed man being King in the land of the blind, one. ;)
I thought you was the one legged man in an ass kicking contest. :)
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I'm sure that it was more dangerous than since it was much less in order but that still doesn't contradict my point (I know you're agreeing with me, I'm just countering before the morons here will try to chime in).
Did you see the graph I posted of Steel strength vs heating? Not even on 9/11 CT fan had the balls to comment on it, just like when I posted the video of a blacksmith they went ape shit and started posting lame videos LOL ;D
Yeah, i saw that graph, it was really good.
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Yeah, i saw that graph, it was really good.
I'm glad you liked it ;D
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Who owns the media? Names please.
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Who owns the media? Names please.
Prove that they're all part of the same conspiracy. I'd love to hear your reasoning for why the whites, blacks, indians, asians in power aren't necessarily colluding but the Jews sure as shit are. (Better get Woten to answer that one for you)
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Prove that their all part of the same conspiracy. I'd love to hear your reasoning for why the whites, blacks, indians, asians in power aren't necessarily colluding but the Jews sure as shit are. (Better get Woten to answer that one for you)
I notice that you just edited your post to add more to it.
The proof that it is from the same "conspiracy" is the fact that no media will go near anything other than the checklist of acceptable content that they are allowed to run.
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I notice that you just edited your post to add more to it.
The proof that it is from the same "conspiracy" is the fact that no media will go near anything other than the checklist of acceptable content that they are allowed to run.
Really? Interesting. The NY Times was all over the Gaza shit.
But thanks for proving my point by proving nothing. Conspiracy. Check.
What's sad is that Woten would've brought something. You've got nothing. Like Dr. Chimps said, you're just a second-rate vessel for his rantings.
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Really? Interesting. The NY Times was all over the Gaza shit.
But thanks for proving my point by proving nothing. Conspiracy. Check.
What's sad is that Woten would've brought something. You've got nothing. Like Dr. Chimps said, you're just a second-rate vessel for his rantings.
All US media is overwhelmingly pro-Israel. Do not use one or even a few lone examples to the contrary as proof of deviating from said agenda. Egalitarian fiction is also pushed at every level of media.
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Of course this whole jew owning the media is a huge "CT"
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LOL you morons, I'm sure that you will have more White Christian males at any profession and occupation you would randomly picked, in numbers, percentiles or whatever criteria you like.
Some of you are so biased that they lie to themself and actually believe it :-\
BTW you all get a FAILED mark on statistics.
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LOL you morons, I'm sure that you will have more White Christian males at any profession and occupation you would randomly picked
Off you trot (little Piggy) & go gets some evidence for these claims, don't forget to stay with the money/TV/Politics/Movies though, huh ??
I shall not hold my breath.
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Off you trot (little Piggy) & go gets some evidence for these claims, don't forget to stay with the money/TV/Politics/Movies though, huh ??
I shall not hold my breath.
You're delusional, get professional help.
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Lots of stuff that talk about how the "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" are a fake and a hoax. No real "Googling" needed.
Fraud Exposed
In 1921, the London Times presented conclusive proof that the Protocols was a "clumsy plagiarism." The Times confirmed that the Protocols had been copied in large part from a French political satire that never mentioned Jews -- Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864). Other investigations revealed that one chapter of a Prussian novel, Hermann Goedsche's Biarritz (1868), also "inspired" the Protocols.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060911-zion.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060911-zion.html)
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007058 (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007058)
http://www.h-net.org/~antis/doc/graves/graves.a.html (http://www.h-net.org/~antis/doc/graves/graves.a.html)
http://skepdic.com/protocols.html (http://skepdic.com/protocols.html)
Read the rest of this article if interested, the first 2 paragraphs say it all.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1797/whats-the-story-with-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1797/whats-the-story-with-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion)
Dear Straight Dope:
I'd like to know about the history of that infamous forgery "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion." Who wrote it, and more importantly (to me anyways), why is it that so many people, even today, refer to it as fact? That Nazis and their bretheren are knuckleheads is no big surprise, but it seems a lot of otherwise even minded people believe the text is legitimate. Any ideas?
— DG, Cambridge, Mass
I don't know that we can really answer why so many believe it, other than to say some people have beliefs that are simply immune to facts--for example, Holocaust deniers. To a rabid anti-Semite it makes no difference that the Protocols have been debunked countless times. I question whether somebody who believes in the Protocols is "otherwise even minded"--simple minded is more like it. The thing is so far out there it defies belief.
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To believe that a secret organization or a secret hidden agenda exists that has been passed down generation to generation to "rule the world" is a teenage nerd fest fantasy and adolescent at best.
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Lots of stuff that talk about how the "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" are a fake and a hoax. No real "Googling" needed.
Fraud Exposed
In 1921, the London Times presented conclusive proof that the Protocols was a "clumsy plagiarism." The Times confirmed that the Protocols had been copied in large part from a French political satire that never mentioned Jews -- Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864). Other investigations revealed that one chapter of a Prussian novel, Hermann Goedsche's Biarritz (1868), also "inspired" the Protocols.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060911-zion.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060911-zion.html)
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007058 (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007058)
http://www.h-net.org/~antis/doc/graves/graves.a.html (http://www.h-net.org/~antis/doc/graves/graves.a.html)
http://skepdic.com/protocols.html (http://skepdic.com/protocols.html)
Read the rest of this article if interested, the first 2 paragraphs say it all.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1797/whats-the-story-with-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1797/whats-the-story-with-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion)
Dear Straight Dope:
I'd like to know about the history of that infamous forgery "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion." Who wrote it, and more importantly (to me anyways), why is it that so many people, even today, refer to it as fact? That Nazis and their bretheren are knuckleheads is no big surprise, but it seems a lot of otherwise even minded people believe the text is legitimate. Any ideas?
— DG, Cambridge, Mass
I don't know that we can really answer why so many believe it, other than to say some people have beliefs that are simply immune to facts--for example, Holocaust deniers. To a rabid anti-Semite it makes no difference that the Protocols have been debunked countless times. I question whether somebody who believes in the Protocols is "otherwise even minded"--simple minded is more like it. The thing is so far out there it defies belief.
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To believe that a secret organization or a secret hidden agenda exists that has been passed down generation to generation to "rule the world" is a teenage nerd fest fantasy and adolescent at best.
Especially when you consider that they got fucked all the way through history and all of what these fags complain about are nothing but achievements that people got by right and not by grace.
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You're delusional, get professional help.
Is that attempt, at Ad-Hominem a NO on the intel, then ??
Thought so !!
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Off you trot (little Piggy) & go gets some evidence for these claims, don't forget to stay with the money/TV/Politics/Movies though, huh ??
I shall not hold my breath.
Didn't you make the original statement regarding Jews in the media etc.?
It is the conspiracy theorist's or whoever puts forward the arguments' responsibility to provide evidence, otherwise you just get IDIOTS making unsubstantiated claims expecting the other party to defend themselves.
Now, YOU provide the evidence showing the Jews control the financial world and/or the World's media services.
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Didn't you make the original statement regarding Jews in the media etc.?
It is the conspiracy theorist's or whoever puts forward the arguments' responsibility to provide evidence, otherwise you just get IDIOTS making unsubstantiated claims expecting the other party to defend themselves.
Now, YOU provide the evidence showing the Jews control the financial world and/or the World's media services.
Exactly, not to mention that you can provide the evidence by using the complamentry.
Let me explain, if for example there are 1000 employees in the World Bank and he pointed out that 20 of them are Jewish than the rest of the 980 will be Christian/Muslim/Whatever, and by being conservative and going only by world demographic it will lead us to at least 300+ Christians.
Don't worry Nordic, I don't take these imbeciles seriously, I just love enjoy watching the uneducated try to look the smartest, notice that it's always the least educated that try to claim that he is the most.
I'm not sure but I think it was Einstein that said that the more he learns the more he understands that he doesn't know, or you can go by the sentence "only the geniuses asks questions".
Classic Natzi C , he try to claim he's so smart everytime yet get owned on a daily basis, I honestly think that he have a mental disorder+ lack of social life + weird sexual pleasure from it since he can't get and real world sexual encounters.
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Didn't you make the original statement regarding Jews in the media etc.?
It is the conspiracy theorist's or whoever puts forward the arguments' responsibility to provide evidence, otherwise you just get IDIOTS making unsubstantiated claims expecting the other party to defend themselves.
Now, YOU provide the evidence showing the Jews control the financial world and/or the World's media services.
Logic like that is flawed, who decides who's responsibility it is, you ??
Seeing as you bring it up though, check out most of Matt-C/my posts on the subject - brimming with it.
& NO ONE - has come close to a counter argument - NOT ONE.
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Logic like that is flawed, who decides who's responsibility it is, you ??
Seeing as you bring it up though, check out most of Matt-C/my posts on the subject - brimming with it.
& NO ONE - has come close to a counter argument - NOT ONE.
No one care about what Matt says, he lies, quote Aryan sites , have no basis , racist and in general quite annoying.
He can quote millions of site, it won't matter he will not be taken seriously.
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The burden of proof is on the accuser.
Concerning counter arguments, A list of names of the owners of major media networks was listed, and the "Protocol" crap was debunked as early 1921.
What's followed is empty rhetoric:
Logic like that is flawed, who decides who's responsibility it is, you ??
Seeing as you bring it up though, check out most of Matt-C/my posts on the subject - brimming with it.
& NO ONE - has come close to a counter argument - NOT ONE.
Or the classic post a few homemade youtube vids, or links and then running from the debate focusing on anything but the actual points of the debate, just like above.
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No one care about what Matt says, he lies, quote Aryan sites , have no basis , racist and in general quite annoying.
He can quote millions of site, it won't matter he will not be taken seriously.
I think Matt's credit was denied for ownership.
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Concerning counter arguments, A list of names of the owners of major media networks was listed, and the "Protocol" crap was debunked as early 1921.
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Incorrect - can you verify that claim.
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Concerning counter arguments, A list of names of the owners of major media networks was listed, and the "Protocol" crap was debunked as early 1921.
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Incorrect - can you verify that claim.
Like we have said, you need to verify it , since you claim that it exist.
By your logic everyone are guilty until proved innocent?
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Concerning counter arguments, A list of names of the owners of major media networks was listed, and the "Protocol" crap was debunked as early 1921.
What's followed is empty rhetoric:
Over 300 Million people in the states of various genetic/religious back-grounds, BUT ONLY (approx) 5,275,000 JOO's, & this is weak rhetoric, YEAH - KAY !!
JEWISH MEDIA EXECUTIVES
MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.
LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.
JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner
NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News
JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC
DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News
SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.
MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, CapitolCities, ABC.
RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the World
MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS
DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS
JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS
DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS
SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment
LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment
BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.
SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.
HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.
BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.
PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp., owner of Fox TV
MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the NewRepublic, which openly identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his "mentor."
ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe and other publications.
WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post. Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel media."
RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post
JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe
NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.
ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.
STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on domestic terrorism.
DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice & the New Times network of "alternative weeklies."
DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund
KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker
BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal Entertainment
KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch
RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer and Bill O'Reilly.
TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.
MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL
WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL- TimeWarner
JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment
JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2
SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment
GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment
STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks
LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment
JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment
MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America
AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures
JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations
ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications
BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment
IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications
WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN's Late Edition
LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live
TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline
ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter
PAULA ZAHN, CNN Host
MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes
BARBARA WALTERS, Host, ABC's 20-20
MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review
BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week
DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of
CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post
HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek
WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
Project for a New American Century (PNAC)
RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle
PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,
RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets
MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations
DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has Israeli flag on his home page.
BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.
ANDREW LACK, president of NBC
DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins
DAVID REMNICK, Editor, The New Yorker
NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York
HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker
SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications, includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group, includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement; American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more than 30 major cities in America; & interests in cable television programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.
DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated Press.
PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's
RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.
LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group
JOO's IN US GOVERNMENT
Cabinet members and senior administration officials
* Judah Benjamin, Confederate attorney general (1861), secretary of war (1861) & state (1862-65)
* Oscar Straus, secretary of commerce & labor (1906-09)
* Henry Morgenthau, Jr., secretary of the treasury (1934-45)
* James Schlesinger, CIA Director 1973 Secretary of Defense (1973-75) (Converted to Christianity)
* Henry Kissinger, national security advisor (1969-75), secretary of state (1973-77)
* W. Michael Blumenthal, secretary of the treasury (1977-79)
* Harold Brown, secretary of defense (1977-81)
* Neil Goldschmidt, secretary of transportation (1979-1981)
* Philip Morris Klutznick, secretary of commerce (1980-1981)
* Kenneth Duberstein, chief of staff (1988-1989)
* Robert Reich, secretary of labor (1993-97)
* John M. Deutch, Belgian-born CIA director (1995-96)
* Robert Rubin, secretary of the treasury (1995-99)
* Madeleine Albright, secretary of state (1997-01) (raised Catholic by converted parents)
* Sandy Berger, national security advisor (1997-01)
* Larry Summers, secretary of the treasury (1999-01)
* Ari Fleischer, white house press secretary (2001-03)
* Michael Chertoff, homeland security secretary (2005-)
* Leon Fuerth, national security advisor to Vice President Al Gore (1993-2001)
* Edward Levi, attorney general (1975-1977)
* Joshua Bolten, White House Chief of Staff (2006-)
* Dan Glickman, Secretary of Agriculture (1995-2001)
* William Cohen, Secretary of Defense (1997-2001)
* Jacob Lew, Director of Office of Mannagement and Budget (1999-2001)
Current Senators
* Carl Levin Democrat Michigan 1978
* Arlen Specter Republican Pennsylvania 1980
* Frank Lautenberg Democrat New Jersey 2002 Previously served 1982-2001
* Herb Kohl Democrat Wisconsin 1988
* Joseph Lieberman Independent Democrat Connecticut 1988 Formerly a Democrat, but lost 2006 party primary; currently serves as an Independent Democrat caucusing with Democrats.
* Dianne Feinstein[1] Democrat California 1992
* Barbara Boxer Democrat California 1992
* Russ Feingold Democrat Wisconsin 1992
* Ron Wyden Democrat Oregon 1996
* Charles Schumer Democrat New York 1998
* Norm Coleman Republican Minnesota 2002
* Ben Cardin Democrat Maryland 2006
* Bernie Sanders Independent (Democratic Socialist) Vermont 2006 Sanders is a self-described "democratic socialist" and is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, but because he does not belong to a formal political party he appears as an Independent on the ballot. Sanders caucuses with the Democratic Party and is counted as a Democrat for the purposes of committee assignments.
Former Senators
* David Levy Yulee, senator (D-FL: 1845-51, 1855-61)
* Judah Benjamin, senator (Whig-LA: 1853-61)
* Benjamin F. Jonas, senator (D-LA: 1879-85)
* Joseph Simon, senator (R-OR: 1898-03)
* Isidor Rayner, senator (D-MD: 1905-12)
* Simon Guggenheim, senator (R-CO: 1907-13)
* Herbert Lehman, senator (D-NY: 1949-57)
* Barry M. Goldwater, senator (R-AZ: 1953-1965, 1969-1987), raised as an Episcopalian
* Richard L. guy, senator (D-OR: 1955-60)
* Jacob Javits, senator (R-NY: 1957-81)
* Ernest Gruening, senator (D-AK: 1959-69)
* Abraham Ribicoff, senator (D-CT: 1963-81)
* Pierre Salinger, senator (D-CA: 1964)
* Howard Metzenbaum, senator (D-OH: 1974, 1976-95)
* Richard B. Stone , senator (D-FL: 1975-80)
* Edward Zorinsky, senator (D-NE: 1976-87)
* Rudy Boschwitz, senator (R-MN: 1978-91)
* Warren Rudman, senator (R-NH: 1980-93)
* Jacob Hecht, senator (R-NV: 1983-89)
* Paul Wellstone, senator (D-MN: 1991-02)
* George Allen, senator (R-VA: 2001-2007), raised as a Presbyterian
Current Representatives
* Henry Waxman[2] Democrat CA-30 1974
* Barney Frank[3] Democrat MA-04 1980
* Tom Lantos[4] Democrat CA-12 1980 Only Holocaust survivor to serve in Congress[citation needed]
* Gary Ackerman[5] Democrat NY-05 1982 Currently heads the International Council of Jewish Parliamentarians (ICJP)
* Howard Berman[6] Democrat CA-28 1982
* Sander M. Levin[7] Democrat MI-12 1982
* Eliot L. Engel[8] Democrat NY-17 1988
* Nita Lowey[9] Democrat NY-18 1988 First female chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, which she chaired from 1991 to 1992
* Bob Filner[10] Democrat CA-51 1992
* Jane Harman[11] Democrat CA-36 1992 Served 1993-1999 and 2001 - Present
* Jerrold Nadler[12] Democrat NY-08 1992
* Steve Rothman[13] Democrat NJ-09 1996
* Robert Wexler[14] Democrat FL-19 1996
* Shelley Berkley[15] Democrat NV-01 1998 First Jewish congresswoman from Nevada
* Jan Schakowsky[16] Democrat IL-09 1998
* Brad Sherman[17] Democrat CA-27 1998
* Anthony D. Weiner[18] Democrat NY-09 1998
* Eric Cantor[19] Republican VA-07 2000
* Susan Davis[20] Democrat CA-53 2000
* Steve Israel[21] Democrat NY-02 2000
* Adam Schiff[21] Democrat CA-29 2000
* Rahm Emanuel[22] Democrat IL-05 2002 Former chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, Chair of the House Democratic Caucus
* Allyson Schwartz[23] Democrat PA-13 2004 Pennsylvania's first Jewish congresswoman
* Debbie Wasserman Schultz[24] Democrat FL-20 2004 First Jewish congresswoman from Florida
* Steve Cohen[25] Democrat TN-09 2006 Tennessee's first Jewish congressman[25]
* Gabrielle Giffords[26] Democrat AZ-08 2006 Arizona's first Jewish congresswoman
* Paul Hodes[27] Democrat NH-02 2006 New Hampshire's first Jewish Congressman
* Steve Kagen[28] Democrat WI-08 2006
* Ron Klein[29] Democrat FL-22 2006
* John Yarmuth[30] Democrat KY-03 2006 Kentucky's first Jewish congressman
Former Representatives
Prominent representatives only – for a full list see www.jewishvirtuallibrary .org.
* Francis Salvador, first Jewish member of a colonial legislature.
* Lewis Charles Levin, first Jewish representative (PA: 1845-51)
* David Spangler Kaufman, first Jewish representative from Texas (TX: 1846-1851)
* Victor L. Berger, socialist (Soc-WI: 1911-13, 1919, 1923-29)
* Florence P. Kahn, first Jewish woman representative (R-CA: 1925-37)
* Allard K. Lowenstein, civil rights activist (D-NY: 1969-1971)
* Bella Abzug, feminist leader & gay rights activist (D-NY: 1971-77)
* Martin Frost, former chairman of the House Democratic Caucus and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (D-TX: 1979-2005)
* Sam Gejdenson, (D-CT: 1981-2001)
* Benjamin Gilman, (R-NY: 1973-2003)
* Bernie Sanders, independent (Ind-VT: 1991-)[31]
* Peter Deutsch (D-FL: 1993-2005)
* Ben Cardin (D-MD: 1986-)[32]
Ambassadors
* Henry Morgenthau Sr., ambassador to Ottoman Empire (1913-16)
* Henry Grunwald, ambassador to Austria (1988-1990)
* Martin Indyk, ambassador to Israel (1995-97, 2000-01)
* Dennis Ross, Middle East envoy
* Don Bandler, ambassador to Cyprus ()
* Robert Schwarz Strauss,ambassador to the Soviet Union during the presidency of George H. W. Bush
* Martin Silverstein, ambassador to Uraguay appointed by GWB.
Governors
* Edward Salomon, governor of Wisconsin (R-WI: 1862-64)
* Edward S. Salomon, governor of the Washington Territory (R-WA: 1870-72)
* Franklin Israel Moses, Jr., governor of South Carolina (R-SC: 1872-74) (raised Episcopalian)
* Washington Bartlett, governor of California (D-CA: 1887-1887)
* Moses Alexander, governor of Idaho (D-ID: 1915-19)
* Simon Bamberger, governor of Utah (D-UT: 1917-21)
* Arthur Seligman, governor of New Mexico (D-NM: 1931-33)
* Julius L. Meier, governor of Oregon (Ind-OR: 1931-35)
* Henry Horner, governor of Illinois (D-IL: 1933-40)
* Herbert H. Lehman, governor of New York (D-NY: 1933-42)
* Ernest Gruening, territorial governor of Alaska (D-AK: 1939-53)
* Abraham Ribicoff, governor of Connecticut (D-CT: 1955-61)
* Samuel H. Shapiro, governor of Illinois (D-IL: 1968-69)
* Frank Licht, governor of Rhode Island (D-RI: 1969-73)
* Marvin Mandel, governor of Maryland (D-MD: 1969-77)
* Milton Shapp, governor of Pennsylvania (D-PA: 1971-79)
* Madeleine M. Kunin, governor of Vermont (D-VT: 1985-91)
* Neil Goldschmidt, governor of Oregon (D-OR: 1987-91)
* Bruce Sundlun, governor of Rhode Island (D-RI: 1991-95)
* Linda Lingle, governor of Hawaii (R-HI: 2002-)
* Ed Rendell, governor of Pennsylvania (D-PA: 2003-)
* Eliot Spitzer, governor of New York (D-NY: 2007-)
Mayors
Prominent mayors/major cities only.
* Cincinnati: Bill Gradison (1971), Jerry Springer (1977-78)
* Las Vegas: Oscar Goodman (1999-)
* Louisville: Jerry E. Abramson (1985-98, 2002-)
* New York: Fiorello LaGuardia (1934-45; Jewish mother)
* New York: Abe Beame (1974-77)
* New York: Ed Koch (1978-89)
* New York: Michael Bloomberg (2002-)
* Philadelphia: Edward Rendell (1992–2000)
* Pittsburgh: Sophie Masloff (1988-1993)
* Portland, Oregon: Vera Katz (1992-2004)
* San Diego: Susan Golding (1992-2000)
* San Francisco: Washington Bartlett (1883-1887)
* San Francisco: Adolph Sutro (1894-1896)
* San Francisco: Dianne Feinstein (1978–88)[1]
* Seattle: Bailey Gatzert (1875-76)
* Indianapolis: Stephen Goldsmith (1992-99)
* Portland, Maine: Jim Cohen (2002-)
* Dallas, Texas: Laura Miller (2002-)
* Beverly Hills, California: Jimmy Delshad (2007-)
Bankers/Economists
* Bernard Baruch, economic adviser to many U.S. presidents, statesman, stock market speculator
* Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve (2006-)
* Milton Friedman
* Alan Greenspan, chairman of the Federal Reserve (1987-2006)
* Eugene Meyer, chairman of the Federal Reserve (1930-1933), president of the World Bank (1946)
* Haym Solomon, financier during the American Revolution
* James Wolfensohn, president of the World Bank (1995-2005)
* Paul Wolfowitz, president of the World Bank (2005-)
Other
* Elliott Abrams, current National Security Council staff candidate; an Assistant Secretary of State in the 1980s; enmeshed in Iran-Contra scandal
* Irving Kristol, one of the founders of the neoconservative movement, along with wife, Gertrude Himmelfarb
* Kitty Dukakis, wife of former Massachusetts Governor & 1988 Democratic Party Presidential candidate Michael Dukakis
* William Kristol, neoconservative editor of The Weekly Standard (son of Irving Kristol) (son of Gertrude Himmelfarb)
* Jean Lafitte, Buccaneer leader of the early 1800s.
* Monica Lewinsky (1973 - ) sex scandal intern, fashion designer
* Ken Mehlman, current (since 2005) Head of Republican National Committee
* Dick Morris, is a political author & commentator who was once a successful pollster & campaign consultant. Morris is best known for managing Bill Clinton's successful 1996 bid for re-election.
* Franklin J. Moses, Sr., politician, judge, and attorney important in the history of 19th Century South Carolina
* Norman Podhoretz, one of the founders of the neoconservative movement, along with wife, Midge Decter
* Judith Steinberg Dean, wife of Democrat Howard Dean
* Bernard Stone
* Kinky Friedman, 2006 Texas Independent Gubernatorial Candidate
* Robert Schwarz Strauss, longtime prominent Democratic Party activist from Texas, former Head of Democratic National Committee, Ambassador to the former Soviet Union during the presidency of George H. W. Bush
* Jason Bedrick, first Orthodox elected official in New Hampshire
* Stan Greenberg, prominent Democratic pollster & strategist, husband of US Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)
* Mark Mellman, Democratic pollster/strategist, columnist for "The Hill" newspaper, covering Congress
CULTURAL / ETHNIC
NAACP (and other African-American organizations)
NAACP Legal Defense Fund,
"Co" - Chairman - Martin D. Payson
"Co" - Vice Chairman - Daniel L. Rabinowitz
"This Website was made possible through the generous support of the Paul and Phyllis Fireman Charitable Foundation."
Washington Kurdish Institute,
Executive Director: Mike Amitay - reputed to be the son of former head of AIPAC (the massive Jewish American lobbying organization for Israel), Morris Amitay.
American Institute of Polish Culture,
Founder and President: Blanka A. Rosenstiel
Emperor's Clothes,
(ostensibly about Yugoslavia and the Balkans)
Editor: Jared Israel (apologist for Israel)
Central Asia Institute,
President: Julia Bergman
Public Relations Director: Susan Neubauer
Inter-American Economic Council,
President & CEO: Barry Featherman
"BKSH is the name of leading-edge government relations consultancy for the 21st century. Created by the world's largest communications agency, Burson-Marsteller, it enables clients to mount US, pan-European and transatlantic campaigns."
Managing Director: K. Riva Levinson
"Ms. Levinson has been the US representative for the Iraqi National Congress (INC) since 1999. This group, funded by the United States State Department, will form the nucleus of the new democratic Iraqi Government. For four years, Ms. Levinson managed the INC’s communications initiatives as the voice of the Iraqi people in exile. Since the country’s liberation, Ms. Levinson has worked with the INC at its headquarters in Baghdad to conduct programs to support democracy and the building of civil society. Beyond Iraq, Ms. Levinson runs a number of projects to build democracy around the world, including managing the Coalition for Democracy in Iran and supporting the Liberian opposition parties."
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PART 2
"HATE," GENOCIDE, ETC.
A List of "Anti-Hate" organizations
(includes some overtly Jewish groups)
Institute for the Study of Genocide,
Executive Director: Helen Fein
International Commission to Investigate the Crimes of Nazi & Soviet Occupation Regimes in Lithuania.
Chairman: Emanuelis Zingeris, also chairman of the Lithuanian Parliamentary Committee on Human Rights.
American Anti-Slavery Group,
Founder and CEO: Charles Jacobs
(Contributor's note: "This is an another Jewish-concocted civil rights organization. No criticism of Israel allowed here, LOLOLz) Israel is a leader in the sex slavery racket. Jacobs has written a pro-Israel apologetic entitled: Why Israel, & not Sudan, is Singled Out: "How is it that there is not storm of indignation at Amnesty Interantional or Human Rights Watch, though, which they rushed to Jenin to investigate false reports of Jews massacring Arabs, care so much about Arab-occupied Juba, South Sudan's black capital?"
Coalition Against Terrorist Media,
Executive Director: Avi Jorisch
POLITICS
America First Party,
Chairman: Dan Charles (Recently became "Chairman Emeritus")
"[The] Reform Party as a whole is in big trouble these days ... Earlier this year, several national executive committee members resigned, along with the leaders of 18 state chapters that decided to disaffiliate from the national organization & launch a new group, the America First Party (AFP). Based in Boulder, Colo., the upstart AFP is headed by Dan Charles, a Jewish right-wing activist previously aligned with the Reform Party."
FrontPage magazine,
Founder/editor: David Horowitz (former far Left political activist, now a conservative apologist for Israel and Judeocentrism)
National Endowment for Democracy,
President: Carl Gershman
Heritage Foundation,
President: Edwin Feulner
(Likely Jewish. Married to Linda Claire Leventhal and author of Hate is Hate).
Center for the Study of Compassionate Conservatism,
Member of Board of Directors: Marvin Olasky
Center for Middle East Peace and Economic Cooperation,
Chairman: S. Daniel Abraham (avid pro-Israel acitivist)
Center for the Study of Popular Culture,
co-founder: David Horowitz
Carnegie Council on Ethics and International Affairs,
President: Joel Rosenthal
Hudson Institute,
Founder (deceased): Herman Kahn
President: Herbert I. London (Winner of the 2001 American Jewish Congress Award)
Chairman of the Board: Walter P. Stern
Vice President & Director: Kenneth R. Weinstein ("Prior to rejoining Hudson, Weinstein was the managing director of the Shalem Center, an educational & research institute with offices in Jerusalem and Washington, D.C.")
Manhattan Institute for Policy Studies,
President: Lawrence J. Mone
People for the American Way,
Founder: television director Norman Lear
The Center for Libertarian Studies (venerates Murray Rothbard),
Founder: Burton S. Blumert
Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty,
Executive Director: Thomas A. Dine
Dine "headed the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) from 1980 through June 1993."
Middle East Forum.
Executive Committee Chairman: Irwin Hochberg
"The Middle East Forum, a think tank, works to define & promote American interests in the Middle East ... In particular, it believes in strong ties with Israel, Turkey/ other democracies as they emerge; works for human rights throughout the region; strives to weaken the forces of religious radicals; seeks a stable supply and a low price of oil; & promotes the peaceful settlement of regional and international disputes ... Toward this end, the Forum seeks to help shape the intellectual climate in which US foreign policy is made by addressing key issues in a timely & accessible way for a sophisticated public."
The Conservative Caucus,
Chairman: Howard Phillips
"Constitution Party & Independent American Party Presidential Nominee ... Born February 6, 1941 in Boston, Massachusetts. Married to Peggy Phillips. Six children, eight grandchildren. Evangelical Protestant (Jewish by birth, later converted in adulthood to Christianity)."
The Mitre organization,
Chairman of the Board: James Schlesinger
"MITRE is a not-for-profit national resource that provides systems engineering, research & development, & information technology support to the government. It operates federally funded research/development centers for the DOD, the FAA, and the IRS."
Aspen Institute,
Chairman: William E. Mayer (Jewish?)
Vice Chairman: Lester Crown
(Jewish Aspen officials include everyone from Henry Kissinger to Madeline Albright).
Project for a New American Century,
Chairman: William Kristol
Institute for Policy Studies,
Founder/funder: Samuel Rubin
"Cora Weiss, nee Cora Rubin, daughter of Samuel Rubin. She was a director of the Samuel Rubin Foundation from its inception. She was also instrumental in the funding decision to create the Institute for Policy Studies. Her husband, Peter Weiss, was the first IPS chairman of the board of directors. She/her husband Peter selected Marcus Raskin & Richard Barnet as co-directors of the Institute for Policy Studies."
World Affairs Council,
Chair: Bill Grinstein
Center for the Research on Military Organization,
Director: David R. Segal
Term Limits,
President: Howard Rich
Council on Foreign Relations,
President: Leslie Gelb (Succeeded by Richard N. Haass, also Jewish)
Vice President: Abraham Lowenthal
Center for Policy Alternatives,
Board Secretary: Miles Rapoport
Drug Policy Alliance,
Executive Director: Ethan Nadelman
Education Policy Institute,
Chairman: Myron Lieberman
Ethics and Public Policy Center,
President: Hillel G. Fradkin
The Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics, and Public Policy, (Harvard U.)
"The Shorenstein Center was established with a generous gift from Walter H. and Phyllis J. Shorenstein, in memory of their daughter, Joan. Joan Shorenstein Barone is remembered by all who worked with her as one of the most dedicated professionals ever to enter the field of political journalism."
Miller Center of Public Affairs,
Executive Director: Philip Zelikow
"The Miller Center's mission is to study and inform the national and international policies of the United States, with a special emphasis on the American Presidency. We conduct primary historical research, hold public forums, document presidential oral history, award fellowships in American political development and organize commissions on important public policy issues."
9-11 Commission (National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States)
Executive Director: Philip Zelikow (see also above)
"January 27, 2003: Philip Zelikow, White Burkett Miller Professor of History & Director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs at the University of Virginia, has been appointed as the Executive Director of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, also known as the '9/11 Commission.'"
Ethics and Public Policy Center,
President: Hillel Fradkin
Center for Ethics and Public Policy,
President: Elliot Abrams
SITE Institute-The Search for International Terrorist Entities,
Director: Rita Katz
The Federalist Society (for law and public policy studies),
President: Eugene B. Meyer (Jewish?)
Executive Vice President: Leonard A Leo (Jewish?)
Social Democrats.
"The Social Democrats, USA (SD/USA) has its political roots in the Socialist Party. Its philosophical forefather was the intellectual Trotskyite, Max Shactman. Shactman, initially a Communist, became increasingly disenchanted with the actions of the Soviet Union under Stalin & developed a new genre of antiStalinist leftists. This group joined the Socialist party of Eugene Debs and Norman Thomas in the 1960s. (2) It was in this period that the SD/USA made its commitment to, and its first inroads into the organized labor movement. In 1972, the Socialist Party split into two factions; the left led by Michael Harrington and the right or conservative wing led by Tom Kahn, Rachelle Horowitz, & Carl Gershman. (2) The latter became the SD/USA."
Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare,
Director: Yossef Bodansky
"Yossef Bodansky is the Director of Research of the International Strategic Studies Association, & is also the Director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare of the US House of Representatives. He is also a Senior Editor for the Defense and Foreign Affairs group of publications. He is the author of five books (Target America, Terror, Crisis in Korea, Offensive in the Balkans, & Some Call it Peace) ..."
Partnership for America's Families.
Director: Steve Rosenthal
"A bitter split within organized labor over control of $20 million earmarked for mobilizing voters is threatening to fracture a broader effort by liberal groups to ally themselves against President Bush's reelection bid in 2004. The dispute involves the new Partnership for America's Families, a political committee financed with $20 million from unions and as much as $10 million from individual, pro-Democratic donors. The partnership's executive director, Steve Rosenthal, former political director of the AFL-CIO, is pitted against Gerald W. McEntee, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. Also at odds with Rosenthal are leaders of black and Hispanic labor organizations affiliated with the AFL-CIO."
Draft Al Gore, [defunct web site]
Chairman: Monica Friedlander
Center for American Progress,
Senior Vice President: Morton H. Halperin
Democracy 21,
President: Fred Wertheimer,
"promotes changes in campaign finance,"
(Important contributor: Geoge Soros)
Bush/Cheney 2004,
Campaign Manager: Ken Mehlman
National Democratic Institute For International Affairs,
Chairman: Madeleine K. Albright
Vice Chairman: Rachelle Horowitz
President: Kenneth D. Wollack
[Contributor's note: This organization "specializes in setting up puppet governments."]
Green Party of the United States,
(Five "Co-Chairs" and one "Alternate")
Co-Chair: Ben Manski
Co-Chair: Marnie Glickman
Alternate: Alan Kobrain (Jewish?)
Treasurer: Jake Schneider
Harvard University Institute of Politics,
Director: Dan Glickman
(Note: Glickman was the Secretary of Agriculture under President Clinton, at the same time now Harvard president Larry Summers was serving as Secretary of the Treasury.)
Oxford Democracy Forum, [Oxford University]
All four members of the OxDem executive board are as follows:
President: Josh Chafetz
Communications Officer: Stephen Sachs
Programs Officer: Josh Cherniss
Member-at-Large: David Adesnik
[OxDem's Internet "blog."]
Selective Service System,
Acting Director: Lewis C. Brodsky (retired 2004)
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities,
Executive Director: Robert Greenstein
Deputy Director: Iris Lav
Associate Director: Susan Steinmetz
Senior Fellow: Isaac Shapiro
American Center for Democracy,
Director: Rachel Ehrenfeld (author of Funding Evil; How Terrorism is Financed -- and How to Stop It)
moveon.org,
Executive Dirctor: Eli Pariser
MASS MEDIA
Fairness and Accuracy in Media (FAIR),
Executive Director: Jeff Cohen
Paul Revere Society,
The PRS apparently IS Michael Savage (born Michael Weiner). Conservative talk-show host and apologist for Israel.
Association of American Publishers,
Chairman of the Board of Directors: Jane Friedman
(Friedman is President and CEO of HarperCollins Publishers).
Screen Actors Guild,
President: Melissa Gilbert
"Other Jewish performers in the cast [of the play "The Education of Max Bickford"] include Jill Clayburgh and Sara Gilbert. Gilbert, 27, is best known for her youthful role as Roseanne's youngest daughter on the "Roseanne" television series. Her sister, MELISSA GILBERT, 38, was the former child star of "Little House on the Prairie" & many TV movies. Melissa was elected president of the Screen Actors' Guild late last year." -- Jewish Bulletin
American Film Institute,
Director and CEO: Jean Picker Firstenberg (Jewish?)
Recording Industry Association of America,
Prior Chairman and CEO: Hilary Rosen
New Chairman and CEO: Mitch Bainwol (formerly a Jewish Republican Party official)
President: Cary Sherman
National Association of Recording Merchandisers,
"The Voice of Music Retailing"
President: Pamela Horovitz
Chairman: David Schlang (Jewish?)
National Film Board of Canada, (government subsidies for independent filmmakers) Commissioner and Chairperson: Jacques Bensimon
Arbitron, (media research)
President and CEO: Stephen B. Morris
(non-executive) Chairman: Lawrence Perlman
The Media Coalition, Inc.,
Executive Director: David Horowitz
The Media Access Project,
President and CEO: Andrew Jay Schwartzman
Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (Canada's BBC),
President and CEO: Robert Rabinovitch
Canadian Museum of Civilization,
President and CEO: Victor Rabinovitch (brother of Robert - see above)
"Their (the Rabinovitch brothers) appointments, the apex of careers built largely in the federal civil service, were 'a source of naches [pride] for the entire Jewish community,'' said Irving Abella, a Toronto historian & former president of the Canadian Jewish Congress. 'They are energetic/dedicated, & never tried to hide their Jewish background.'"
Center for Media and Public Affairs,
President: S. Robert Lichter
Vice President: Linda Lichter
Association of Alternative Newsweeklies,
Executive Director: Richard Karpel
Project for Excellence in Journalism/Committee of Concerned Journalists,
Director (& Vice Chairman of CCJ) -- Tom Rosenstiel
Chairman of CCJ -- Bill Kovach (Jewish?)
Directors Guild of America,
President: Michael Apted
National Vice-President: Edwin Sherin
National Executive Director: Jay D. Roth
Associate National Executive Director: Warren Adler
(also: Presiding Officer,Western Directors
Council: Michael Apted Presiding Officer,
Eastern Directors Council: Edwin Sherin)
The Society of Professional Audio Recording Services,
President: Jeff Greenberg
President-Elect: Andrew Kautz
Treasurer: Doug Levine
Executive Director: Larry Lipman
Academy of Television Arts & Sciences ("Emmy" awards),
Chairman & CEO: Dick Askin
Academy of Television Arts & Sciences Foundation,
Chairman & CEO: Tom Sarnoff
Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (AMPAS), ("Academy Awards")
A) AMPAS Board of Governors:
First Vice President: Sid Ganis
Vice President: Gilbert Cates
Executive Director: Bruce Davis (Jewish?)
B) AMPAS Administration:
Executive Director: Bruce Davis (Jewish?)
C) AMPAS Foundation Board of Trustees:
President: Fay Kanin
Vice President (1 of 2): Charles Bernstein
Executive Secretary: Bruce Davis (Jewish?)
Secretary: Sid Ganis
( Note: Fay Kanin is also Executive Committee Chair AMPAS Writers Branch)
"Tony" awards are presented by the following two organizations:
1) The League of American Theatres and Producers (LATP),
Chairman: Gerald Schoenfeld
President: Jed Bernstein
2) The American Theatre Wing (ATW),
Executive Director: Howard Sherman
National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences (NARAS),"The Recording Academy" ("Grammy" Awards)
President & CEO: Neil Portnow
General Council: Joel A. Katz
Songwriters Guild of America (SGA),
Executive Director: Lewis Bachman
National Projects Director: George Wurzbach (Jewish?)
Executive Vice President: Richard Adler
Second Executive Vice President: George David Weiss
First Vice President: Ervin Drake (Jewish?)
Dramatists Guild of America, Inc.,
President: John Weidman (Jewish?) (Note:novelist and playright Jerome Weidman wrote "I can Get it for You Wholesale", which starred Barbara Streisand when it played on Broadway.)
Secretary: Arthur Kopit (Jewish surname)
Motion Picture Association of America,
(i.e., the frontman for Hollyweird)
President: Dan Glickman
American Cinema Editors,
President: Alan Heim
National Cable and Telecommunications Association,
President and CEO: Robert Sachs
Online News Association,
President: Ruth Gersh, Director of Online Services, AP Digital
Vice President: Michael Silberman, Managing Editor, East Coast, MSNBC.com
Secretary: Jonathan Dube Jonathan Dube (Jewish?), Managing Producer, MSNBC.com
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Congratulations Pillowtalk!
You actually cut and pasted something instead of just running your mouth.
Looks like there are many successful people who are Jews.
And your point is?
Is it that because they represent 2% present of the population they should hold only 2% of 'successful" Jobs or have 2% representation in congress?
Or is it because they have more than 2% in these respective categories they in fact control the world?
And so what, for example:
Manhattan Institute for Policy Studies,
President: Lawrence J. Mone
Is every organization like this controlled by jews?
And they are controlling the world from the institute of policy studies?
Same thing with the media:
The Media Coalition, Inc.,
Executive Director: David Horowitz
Obviously some tard took the time to collect all this meaningless information. I'm sure hundreds of other organiztion, agencies, institutes, etc.. with Christains running them.
So again, you listed a bunch of successful Jews.
So what?
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The burden of proof is on the accuser.
the "Protocol" crap was debunked as early 1921.
As Matt-C has stated (not that you chose to avoid that paragraph though OzmO, Huh ??)
NOBODY HAS EVER PROVEN THEM FAKE, ITS MERELY AN ASSERTION BASED ON 8 SENTENCES - OF WHICH ARE VALID & IN CONTEXT - FROM THE THOUSANDS OF SENTENCES COMPRISING THE PROTOCOLS, YEAH - GOOD POINT !! (muffled laughter)
Oh &, lets - AGAIN - overlook the fact (that Matt-C stated) that 22 of the 24 protocols have come to pass !!
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As Matt-C has stated (not that you chose to avoid that paragraph though OzmO, Huh ??)
NOBODY HAS EVER PROVEN THEM FAKE, ITS MERELY AN ASSERTION BASED ON 8 SENTENCES - OF WHICH ARE VALID & IN CONTEXT - FROM THE THOUSANDS OF SENTENCES COMPRISING THE PROTOCOLS, YEAH - GOOD POINT !! (muffled laughter)
Oh &, lets - AGAIN - overlook the fact (that Matt-C stated) that 22 of the 254 protocols have come to pass !!
Go back and read the links i posted.
They've been proved fake, fraudulent and a hoax. People like you and Matt just choose not acknowledge it.
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Congratulations Pillowtalk!
You actually cut and pasted something instead of just running your mouth.
Correct !!
from the drafts in my G-mail account.
I hang onto intel that I compile over the years.
You are just playing 'devils advocate' - nothing more - I bet you would be just as happy on either side of any argument (as long as you perceive that you are ahead in the game) - OH-MY !! ::) ::) ??? ???
I got work to do, you are a MOD & have to be here, congrats.
Laters Mickey..................
PT - SAIDA.
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Correct !!
from the drafts in my G-mail account.
I hang onto intel that I compile over the years.
You are just playing 'devils advocate' - nothing more - I bet you would be just as happy on either side of any argument (as long as you perceive that you are ahead in the game) - OH-MY !! ::) ::) ??? ???
No. I looked into it like i said i would and so far, you or anyone else hasn't been able to back up anything. You cut and pasted a list of successful Jews.
Again I ask, So what?
That means they are controlling the world?
That means there is a conspiracy for them to control the world?
Too bad for you it's not 1933 and you live in Germany. You'd have better luck.
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No. I looked into it like i said i would and so far, you or anyone else hasn't been able to back up anything. You cut and pasted a list of successful Jews.
Again I ask, So what?
That means they are controlling the world?
That means there is a conspiracy for them to control the world?
Too bad for you it's not 1933 and you live in Germany. You'd have better luck.
Is it true your governor is thinking about taxing mary jane sales?
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weed is legal here
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Is it true your governor is thinking about taxing mary jane sales?
I've been hearing that on the radio. I'm not sure on the details.
But i think it would be a good thing. It's dam near legal here anyway.
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weed is legal here
where would that be?
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where would that be?
massachusetts
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massachusetts
For medical purposes or straight up legal in that i can go in a store and buy it like booze?
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For medical purposes or straight up legal in that i can go in a store and buy it like booze?
its legal you can have up to an ounce. why, do you smoke pot? i dont anymore but i think it gave me mild gyno
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its legal you can have up to an ounce. why, do you smoke pot? i dont anymore but i think it gave me mild gyno
Good the DEA doesn't do smack downs in MA. like it does in Ca.
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its legal you can have up to an ounce. why, do you smoke pot? i dont anymore but i think it gave me mild gyno
I don't smoke pot anymore. I just think it's a waste of time, effort and money to criminalize it. I also believe it's less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco. People are going to have their vices.
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I don't smoke pot anymore. I just think it's a waste of time, effort and money to criminalize it. I also believe it's less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco. People are going to have their vices.
:o
Shame on you! >:(
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:o
Shame on you! >:(
Well not anymore than i did yesterday..........
jk ;D
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Didn't you make the original statement regarding Jews in the media etc.?
It is the conspiracy theorist's or whoever puts forward the arguments' responsibility to provide evidence, otherwise you just get IDIOTS making unsubstantiated claims expecting the other party to defend themselves.
Now, YOU provide the evidence showing the Jews control the financial world and/or the World's media services.
Why the apostrophe?
DAMY
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Exactly, not to mention that you can can't provide the evidence by using the complamentry [wtf ???!?]
Let me explain, [comma ought to be a semicolon or a dash] if for example there are 1000 employees in of the World Bank and he pointed out that 20 of them are Jewish than then the rest of the 980 will be Christian/Muslim/Whatever gentiles, and by being conservative and going judging only by world demographic it will lead us to at least 300+ Christians.
Don't worry Nordic [attempt at figurative crowd-gathering, revealing IFBBwannaB's lack of faith in the impact of his own horseshit] don't take these imbeciles seriously, I just love enjoy watching the un[der]educated try to look the smartest, notice that it's always the least educated that who try to claim that he is they are the most.
I'm not sure but I think [fantastic research] it was Einstein that who said that the more he learns the more he understands that he doesn't know, or you can go by the sentence "only the geniuses asks questions". [period should be inside close-quote]
[the above = attempting to bask in Einstein's glory by way of indirect ad hominem; ie. me smart, pillowtalk dumb by comparison]
Classic Natzi C , he try [are you black?] to claim he's so smart every[insert space here]time yet get[insert s here] owned on a daily basis,[replace comma with period] I honestly think that he have has a mental disorder+ lack of social life + weird sexual pleasure from it since he can't get and real[insert hyphen here]world sexual encounters.
Do you seek to baffle your opponents by coining new words/syntactical constructs?
You little fuckin' wally LOL!
Also, next birthday, ask for a family-size pack of commas, and please do not substitute mathematical symbols for of the word and.
DAMY
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Do you seek to baffle your opponents by coining new words/syntactical constructs?
You little fuckin' wally LOL!
Also, next birthday, ask for a family-size pack of commas, and please do not use mathematical symbols in place of the word and.
DAMY
Please remind me how many other languages beside English you speak? ::)
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Please remind me how many other languages beside English you speak? ::)
Irrelevant and ultimately weak.
DAMY
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Irrelevant and ultimately weak.
DAMY
Relevent, English is only a secondary language to me + (yes that's a mathematical sign bitch) I don't put lots of efforts when I post at an internet forum.
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Then you should.
So what's your mother tongue, then? Ebonics?
DAMY
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Then you should.
So what's your mother tongue, then? Ebonics?
DAMY
I'm fluent in mathematics,physics and logical reasoning.These languages cross all barriers.
When you get across your racist views you might understand that.
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Relevent, English is only a secondary language to me + (yes that's a mathematical sign bitch) I don't put lots of efforts when I post at an internet forum.
You are a fucking - MORON - OzmO I respect for that fact (despite us being at either ends of an argument/debate) I am able to read his posts with-out, the aid of a six year old to translate for me ::)
Oh, & don't bother asking me how many languages I can speak other than English !!
I spend a lot of time with my Indian family, so being force to pick up Hindi/Gujerati is becoming second nature, & flying out to Mumbai on the 17th June for a month will only add to that.
Then there is the amount of time I spend in Portugal, assim você fala o português ?? ??? ??? ???
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I'm fluent in mathematics,physics and logical reasoning.These languages cross all barriers.
When you get across (OVER) your racist views (Comma) you might understand that.
FIXED.
Here I have some commas to spare (they came with the lap-top) - have some , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,, , , , , , , , , ,
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You are a fucking - MORON - OzmO I respect for that fact (despite us being at either ends of an argument/debate) I am able to read his posts with-out, the aid of a six year old to translate for me ::)
Oh, & don't bother asking me how many languages I can speak other than English !!
I spend a lot of time with my Indian family, so being force to pick up Hindi/Gujerati is becoming second nature, & flying out to Mumbai on the 17th June for a month will only add to that.
Then there is the amount of time I spend in Portugal, assim você fala o português ?? ??? ??? ???
Great for you, doesn't matter that you can't get your point across and concentrate on BS.
If you think that this tactic would work than you're even less intelligent than I thought.
BTW you should spell check, you had a word flagged out.
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Great for you, doesn't matter that you can't get your point across and concentrate on BS.
If you think that this tactic would work than you're even less intelligent than I thought.
BTW you should spell check, you had a word flagged out.
Read your last 50 posts wanker ::)
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BTW you should spell check, you had a word flagged out.
hahaha, priceless... can't believe you actually said this.
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hahaha, priceless... can't believe you actually said this.
You are a conspiracy theory Hugo! :o
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hahaha, priceless... can't believe you actually said this.
I never bother with pointing out people spell check flags, there are plenty, I use it on all of my posts so I notice it when I quote someone.
Since he thinks that bugging about grammer makes his point stronger I felt that I should point it out ;D
Can we get back on track or are we grammer policing again? I rather be math policing all of you that still think WTC7 fell faster than free fall speed ::)
Btw what's up with spell check? It doesn't work for me now :-\
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The constant spelling / grammar corrections simply highlight the weakness of his arguments. It's also incredibly boring... ::)
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I never bother with pointing out people spell check flags, there are plenty, I use it on all of my posts so I notice it when I quote someone.
Since he thinks that bugging about grammer makes his point stronger I felt that I should point it out ;D
Can we get back on track or are we grammer policing again? I rather be math policing all of you that still think WTC7 fell faster than free fall speed ::)
Btw what's up with spell check? It doesn't work for me now :-\
I don't know, maybe server problems again or something. I find it hard to believe you use spellcheck. It must be something you recently started doing lol...
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The constant spelling / grammar corrections simply highlight the weakness of his arguments. It's also incredibly boring... ::)
You're a conspiracy theory too Nordic! :o
When are you heading to Oz?
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You're a conspiracy theory too Nordic! :o
When are you heading to Oz?
Going in 2010 unfortunately... March of 2010 to be specific :'(
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Going in 2010 unfortunately... March of 2010 to be specific :'(
Year contract?
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Year contract?
Yeah. Looking forward to it tho, last time I went I was a kid, spent all my time chasing lizards and other creepies, lucky I'm alive to be honest ;D
Amazing place for a Brit - pubs, English speaking ex-Brit convicts with good sense of humour and weather to die for :)
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Yeah. Looking forward to it tho, last time I went I was a kid, spent all my time chasing lizards and other creepies, lucky I'm alive to be honest ;D
Amazing place for a Brit - pubs, English speaking ex-Brit convicts with good sense of humour and weather to die for :)
You'll see, but I think your malaise has more to do with your job than anything else, best of luck in any event.
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You'll see, but I think your malaise has more to do with your job than anything else, best of luck in any event.
No denying it comrade, that is certainly unpalatable FACT :-\
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No denying it comrade, that is certainly unpalatable FACT :-\
Do something new, you're still young.
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Do something new, you're still young.
Working on it mate! How's York BTW? Any Swine flu cases around you area?
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Working on it mate! How's York BTW? Any Swine flu cases around you area?
No, no. None I know of.
Yeah, just about to start work on my dissertation and even more important, GOTTA get work lined up for autumn! Shipping out late September one way or another.
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No, no. None I know of.
Yeah, just about to start work on my dissertation and even more important, GOTTA get work lined up for autumn! Shipping out late September one way or another.
Destination?
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Destination?
Trying to get work in Saudi or the UAE but those jobs are super hard to get; I will go whereever I get the best job, meaning almost anywhere in the world.
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i wonder if the rothschilds still own the world
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Trying to get work in Saudi or the UAE but those jobs are super hard to get; I will go whereever I get the best job, meaning almost anywhere in the world.
Have you set a date for conversion to islam? ;D
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Have you set a date for conversion to islam? ;D
No. I am just a mercenary, I go where the money is; the money is in the Middle East, especially in Saudi but like I said I am a bit underqualified for there, maybe I will luck out...will likely end up some place in East Asia...
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No. I am just a mercenary, I go where the money is; the money is in the Middle East, especially in Saudi but like I said I am a bit underqualified for there, maybe I will luck out...will likely end up some place in East Asia...
Just out of curiosity is there anything to distinguish you (without blatantly saying so) that you have some Jewish heritage? If so; do you think this affects job aspects in the ME?
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Just out of curiosity is there anything to distinguish you (without blatantly saying so) that you have some Jewish heritage? If so; do you think this affects job aspects in the ME?
Nothing physical, nothing in my name. No. I have posted this before but I don't think there is very much anything 'Jewish' about me. I am really just underqualified. I am in the process of getting my MA and it is a theoretical one and I don't have years of university level teaching; biggest problems there.
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/Portrait.jpg)
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I don't know, maybe server problems again or something. I find it hard to believe you use spellcheck. It must be something you recently started doing lol...
You're confusing grammer with spelling, you need to understand that I don't build sentences in English in my mind, I simply translate it to English and sligthly modify the grammer.
Damn spell check still not working for me :(
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Nothing physical, nothing in my name. No. I have posted this before but I don't think there is very much anything 'Jewish' about me. I am really just underqualified. I am in the process of getting my MA and it is a theoretical one and I don't have years of university level teaching; biggest problems there.
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/Portrait.jpg)
OK, to me you look like an English football hooligan! ;D
Ha only joking mate :P
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OK, to me you look like an English football hooligan! ;D
Ha only joking mate :P
English football hooligan is good, always wanted to be one of those... ;D
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I think that pic looks like Harry from 3rd Rock from the Sun. Sans hair.
Funny how this thread descended into bullshit after PT quit posting.
DAMY
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I think that pic looks like Harry from 3rd Rock from the Sun. Sans hair.
Funny how this thread descended into bullshit after PT quit posting.
DAMY
Got some time now, between training/getting set for 'India' in June (lots of work to do there).
Plus getting shot of the house, finding a flat to rent while we prep, etc.............
But I am back now.
ORDER - ORDER - in the court !!
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Lots of stuff that talk about how the "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" are a fake and a hoax.
Fraud Exposed
In 1921, the London Times presented conclusive proof that the Protocols was a "clumsy plagiarism." The Times confirmed that the Protocols had been copied in large part from a French political satire that never mentioned Jews -- Maurice Joly's Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu (1864). Other investigations revealed that one chapter of a Prussian novel, Hermann Goedsche's Biarritz (1868), also "inspired" the Protocols.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060911-zion.html (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060911-zion.html)
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007058 (http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007058)
http://www.h-net.org/~antis/doc/graves/graves.a.html (http://www.h-net.org/~antis/doc/graves/graves.a.html)
http://skepdic.com/protocols.html (http://skepdic.com/protocols.html)
Read the rest of this article if interested, the first 2 paragraphs say it all.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1797/whats-the-story-with-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1797/whats-the-story-with-the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-zion)
Dear Straight Dope:
I'd like to know about the history of that infamous forgery "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion." Who wrote it, and more importantly (to me anyways), why is it that so many people, even today, refer to it as fact? That Nazis and their bretheren are knuckleheads is no big surprise, but it seems a lot of otherwise even minded people believe the text is legitimate. Any ideas?
— DG, Cambridge, Mass
I don't know that we can really answer why so many believe it, other than to say some people have beliefs that are simply immune to facts--for example, Holocaust deniers. To a rabid anti-Semite it makes no difference that the Protocols have been debunked countless times. I question whether somebody who believes in the Protocols is "otherwise even minded"--simple minded is more like it. The thing is so far out there it defies belief.
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To believe that a secret organization or a secret hidden agenda exists that has been passed down generation to generation to "rule the world" is a teenage nerd fest fantasy and adolescent at best.
The 'London Times' was owned/& controlled by who at time of print ??
First off you have used 'National geographic' as the first link, now we all know that 'NG' has been behind some huge cover up job's to protect 'paradigm ways of thought' in the states/world at large.
This is why these kinds of arguments/debates are frustrating, because the net is brimming with evidence for both parties to draw from, the event/documents - & the de-bunkers sites.
9/11 - 'JFK' conspiracy are classic examples of these, & the longer the amount of time that passes, the more muddy the water get's.
With that in mind, let us look at the 100 odd years that have passed since the 'POEZ' were first banded around.
They had to be demonized by the Zionist heirarchy, why ?? because it would have been suicide not to.
The main reason for this 'IMO' was that the 'Fuhrer' had copies that were recovered from various locations (residencies) & - NO-ONE could have a good justification for the 'Fuhrer' to take the action he did, so they were demonized, & many a reputable publication got on the band wagon.
You Google it 'POEZ' & see what comes up ?? the first page is full of articles for your side of the debate (OzmO), but then Google is now owned by A 'JOO' company, WOW !! hwo'da thunk of it ??
They are now using the form of media that they have taken control of to prop up another pro-JOO paradigm.
Put in "nuremberg trials protocols of zion" & Google away - see what you get on the first page !! LOLOLz......
This is like expecting a Tory paper to back Labor in an election - utter NUTS !!
This 'IMO' is where you fucked it up................
I don't know that we can really answer why so many believe it, other than to say some people have beliefs that are simply immune to facts--for example, Holocaust deniers. To a rabid anti-Semite it makes no difference that the Protocols have been debunked countless times. I question whether somebody who believes in the Protocols is "otherwise even minded"--simple minded is more like it. The thing is so far out there it defies belief.
Oh, & this did not help either...........
To believe that a secret organization or a secret hidden agenda exists that has been passed down generation to generation to "rule the world" is a teenage nerd fest fantasy and adolescent at best.
You are just trying to be spitefull, & Make Matt & I look like some kind of 'teenage nerd fest fantasy loonies' & adolescent at best !!
I could go into my G-mail & did out a bunch of links that would blow the ones you posted out of the water, but then you would come back & argue/debate the toss.
So, here's the deal - explain to me after having read all 24 protocols, why we can tick the box of 22 of them ?? that is if they are fake (as you purport)
Also why are we seeing this one play out before, not only my, but your eyes, combined, with every other 'Goy' on the planet ??
"Economic crises have been produced by us for the goyim by no other means than the withdrawal of money from circulation." - Protocols of Zion
Have you read all 24 ?? or did you just hit Google & find as much diss-info as you could ??
I have my suspicions !!
Back to the main point - rather than post a bunch of couter links, I will ask you again, in your opinion - explain to me after having read all 24 protocols, why we can tick the box of 22 of them ?? that is if they are fake (as you purport) & are seeing one of them play out right now ??
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No one care about what Matt says, he lies, quote Aryan sites
So by that logic every-thing that is posted on an Aryan site is a hoax ??
Does the same apply to 'Jewish supremacist' sites also ??
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So by that logic every-thing that is posted on an Aryan site is a hoax ??
Does the same apply to 'Jewish supremacist' sites also ??
I never seen a Jewish supremacist site, you inventing that name only solidify what I said, you two have no credibility.
But let's assume that some site was based on racism and outrageous unfounded claims then yes, I wouldn't take it seriously, if it supports Jews/Republicans/Whatever.
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I never seen a Jewish supremacist site, you inventing that name only solidify what I said
You, defiantly, need to get out more !!
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You, defiantly, need to get out more !!
Why don't you give us some links since you know so many of those sites.
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The 'London Times' was owned/& controlled by who at time of print ??
Is the part where you say it was owned by a jew and therefore not true? Never mind other reasons it's been proven and hoax, fake and fraud.
First off you have used 'National geographic' as the first link, now we all know that 'NG' has been behind some huge cover up job's to protect 'paradigm ways of thought' in the states/world at large.
This is why these kinds of arguments/debates are frustrating, because the net is brimming with evidence for both parties to draw from, the event/documents - & the de-bunkers sites.
What do you mean "we"? do you have a rat in your pocket?
9/11 - 'JFK' conspiracy are classic examples of these, & the longer the amount of time that passes, the more muddy the water get's.
Actually the more years that has past the clearer it has gotten that it was lone gunman. You have yet to even formulate a good argument. Most of the time you just run away. Everything you have tried to do, from the stupid ABC video to the famous russian WW2 having problems making the shot has been soundly blown away.
With that in mind, let us look at the 100 odd years that have passed since the 'POEZ' were first banded around.
They had to be demonized by the Zionist heirarchy, why ?? because it would have been suicide not to.
With that CT'er logic, as usual, you should also look at correlation between white bread and homicide. In that you'll discover the "wonder bread" conspiracy and you'll be a better person because of it. Your logic will be beyond reproach and you get awards in secret from other secret organizations.
The main reason for this 'IMO' was that the 'Fuhrer' had copies that were recovered from various locations (residencies) & - NO-ONE could have a good justification for the 'Fuhrer' to take the action he did, so they were demonized, & many a reputable publication got on the band wagon.
Oh yeah, Hitler, probably the biggest choke artist in history.
You Google it 'POEZ' & see what comes up ?? the first page is full of articles for your side of the debate (OzmO), but then Google is now owned by A 'JOO' company, WOW !! hwo'da thunk of it ??
Oh yeah, Jews own everything and they are taking over the world.
They are now using the form of media that they have taken control of to prop up another pro-JOO paradigm.
Put in "nuremberg trials protocols of zion" & Google away - see what you get on the first page !! LOLOLz......
This is like expecting a Tory paper to back Labor in an election - utter NUTS !!
Yeah it's unbelievable. Should I try too stuff a few into my oven at home and turn on the broiler?
This 'IMO' is where you fucked it up................
I don't know that we can really answer why so many believe it, other than to say some people have beliefs that are simply immune to facts--for example, Holocaust deniers. To a rabid anti-Semite it makes no difference that the Protocols have been debunked countless times. I question whether somebody who believes in the Protocols is "otherwise even minded"--simple minded is more like it. The thing is so far out there it defies belief.
Yeah common sense is never a good idea.
Oh, & this did not help either...........
To believe that a secret organization or a secret hidden agenda exists that has been passed down generation to generation to "rule the world" is a teenage nerd fest fantasy and adolescent at best.
You are just trying to be spitefull, & Make Matt & I look like some kind of 'teenage nerd fest fantasy loonies' & adolescent at best !!
Probably because thats what you are. Essentially getting reminded of it time and time again. You guys are fringe nut jobs. But i still like you. :)
I could go into my G-mail & did out a bunch of links that would blow the ones you posted out of the water, but then you would come back & argue/debate the toss.
Oh yeah, I bet you could, cause you are so in the know.
So, here's the deal - explain to me after having read all 24 protocols, why we can tick the box of 22 of them ?? that is if they are fake (as you purport)
Also why are we seeing this one play out before, not only my, but your eyes, combined, with every other 'Goy' on the planet ??
No need, simply apply the wonder bread conspiracy and the truth comes out.
"Economic crises have been produced by us for the goyim by no other means than the withdrawal of money from circulation." - Protocols of Zion
YEAH! Omg! just like: "There will be wars and rumors of wars!"
It's all true! All of it! everything! every prophecy!
Oh shit, my horoscope is true tooo!!!
Have you read all 24 ?? or did you just hit Google & find as much diss-info as you could ??
I have my suspicions !!
I will, if not for pure entertainment purposes read them, just for you.
Back to the main point - rather than post a bunch of couter links, I will ask you again, in your opinion - explain to me after having read all 24 protocols, why we can tick the box of 22 of them ?? that is if they are fake (as you purport) & are seeing one of them play out right now ??
I'll make 2 predictions:
1. Increasing darkness will be followed by increasing lightness.
2. They will fall under the wonder bread conspiracy
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If those 24 are so good, you should post and enlighten everyone.
Aside from my abundant sarcasm I am sincerely curious.
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You're confusing grammer with spelling, you need to understand that I don't build sentences in English in my mind, I simply translate it to English and sligthly modify the grammer.
Damn spell check still not working for me :(
It's grammar and slightly you just botched and those are spelling issues. I'm not confusing shit dude; you've had many posts that had so many misspelled words it was hard to read. You've been called out for spelling and grammar on several occasions and now you're trying to act like it didn't happen lol. I really don't care, I'm not perfect myself in this area. I'm just saying it's the last thing you should be calling other people on. LOL...
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The master at work.
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The master at work.
I'm not surprised you get your beliefs & "facts" from a comedian.
It all makes sense now.
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Cozmo, you just made a helluva leap, did you not?
You hinted that Bill Hicks is Pillowtalk's only source of information/inspiration.
Brutal ad hominem.
I like Dice myself, despite his kikehood
DAMY
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Cozmo, you just made a helluva leap, did you not?
You hinted that Bill Hicks is Pillowtalk's only source of information/inspiration.
Brutal ad hominem.
I like Dice myself, despite his kikehood
DAMY
No Blammy, that's called sarcasm.
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No Blammy, that's called sarcasm.
Bill was a well read philosopher - that was way ahead of his time.
He merely used the vector of a stage & a mike to 'sermonize stentorian' form the mount - oh, & he threw in some dick jokes to keep the yanks happy.
Chris Rock - is a comedian - HUGE DIFFERENCE. :o ;D
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No Blammy, that's called sarcasm.
Oh, right. It musta been poorly-conveyed sarcasm, then.
Or maybe you're just way too smart for me, and your meaning flies over my head.
DAMY
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I'm not surprised you get your beliefs & "facts" from a comedian.
On this you are correct, he was funny as fuck doing that Dominion gig (in London) - he was on fire !!
I just thought it was a perfect illustration - via the vector of comedy - of how 'Oswald' managed to get an exit wound, the size of an Base-ball in the rear of 'JFK's' cranium, from his 'LUP' ??? ??? ??? (behind & to the right of Kennedy) - WEIRD !!
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LOL!
I liked the sudden NO FUCKIN' WAY!!! exclamation!
At the end when he did the Here, watch American Gladiators... part, I thought he'd follow it up with have-another-beer, but no. Musta been another show.
DAMY ;D
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LOL!
I liked the sudden NO FUCKIN' WAY!!! exclamation!
At the end when he did the Here, watch American Gladiators... part, I thought he'd follow it up with have-another-beer, but no. Musta been another show.
DAMY ;D
Like I said "the master at work" !!
Or, here watch this & get fat/stupid - go back to sleep America, your government is in control (variations on the obese, docile, bovine, masses) ;)
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On this you are correct, he was funny as fuck doing that Dominion gig (in London) - he was on fire !!
I just thought it was a perfect illustration - via the vector of comedy - of how 'Oswald' managed to get an exit wound, the size of an Base-ball in the rear of 'JFK's' cranium, from his 'LUP' ??? ??? ??? (behind & to the right of Kennedy) - WEIRD !!
Not really if you look at the facts of it. In fact, just recently, there was a program, I think it was called: "inside the target car" that laid it out pretty good.
You are right, it makes good comedy to those ignorant of facts.
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Not really if you look at the facts of it. In fact, just recently, there was a program, I think it was called: "inside the target car" that laid it out pretty good.
You are right, it makes good comedy to those ignorant of facts.
& the theory is ??........
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& the theory is ??........
What theory are you talking about?
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What theory are you talking about?
You are boring me now ::)
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Not really if you look at the facts of it. In fact, just recently, there was a program, I think it was called: "inside the target car" that laid it out pretty good.
Go do some research. Tell us who made the programme and speculate as to why.
DAMY
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Go do some research. Tell us who made the programme and speculate as to why.
DAMY
I've done lots of research. LOTS. You tell me.
PS: I refrain from speculating when i can, that's what CT nut jobs most of the time.
You are boring me now ::)
Yeah? You still haven't gathered the courage to step up to the plate.
So until then, stay bored, stay cowardly.
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I've done lots of research. LOTS. You tell me.
PS: I refrain from speculating when i can. that's what CT nut jobs most of the time.
Yeah? You still haven't gathered the courage to step up to the plate.
So until then, stay bored, stay cowardly.
Don't frisbee my question back at me, Ozschmoe.
And fuck off with your tired baseball analogy.
Step up to the plate! LOL! TV is great, huh? Who's yer fave, Montel or Oprah? Maury, maybe?
DAMy
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Don't frisbee my question back at me, Ozschmoe.
And fuck off with your tired baseball analogy.
Step up to the plate! LOL! TV is great, huh? Who's yer fave, Montel or Oprah? Maury, maybe?
DAMy
I'll Frisbee your weak ass retort right back at you when ever i want. If you don't like it go fuck yourself.
You retort was pathetic as it suggested that anything that didn't agree with a JFK conspiracy had a hidden agenda. Classic CT nut jobbery.
And the plate comment wasn't directed at you, it was directed at pillowtalk. Which tells me, you are ignorant or you are pillowtalk and ignorant.
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I know your plate pish was aimed at PT.
I just chose to mention it, cos it was hackneyed crap, that's all.
I didn't say that anything disagreeable with JFK... must have a hidden agenda. But still, no-one does anything for no reason. Especially making TV shows.
Poofter.
DAMY
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I know your plate pish was aimed at PT.
I just chose to mention it, cos it was hackneyed crap, that's all.
I didn't say that anything disagreeable with JFK... must have a hidden agenda. But still, no-one does anything for no reason. Especially making TV shows.
Poofter.
DAMY
People make TV shows for many reasons most of which have to do with profit.
Also, if you knew the history of exchanges between me and pillowtalk regarding JFK you'll see that he makes assertions then runs after they are soundly debunked.
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I just spotted your capitalized Frisbee.
Shame on me, overlooking brand-name propriety.
DAMY ;D
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I just spotted your capitalized Frisbee.
Shame on me, overlooking brand-name propriety.
DAMY ;D
lol It's how the auto spell check on Firefox works...
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Oh right! Thank fuck for that, I thought I had grammar-geek competition!
That spellcheck stuff is a curious thing. There are kids over here (Scotland and wider UK) who have learned, purely from Microsoft, to use Z where S is so-called Queen's English. Words like capitalize, memorize are now commonplace here, although not strictly correct.
As a result, lexicographers are taking an either-or attitude to it now.
It's a bit like the generation of continental Europeans, who speak English with an American twang, 'cos they were taught English as a second language by MTV and the like
DAMY
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Oh right! Thank fuck for that, I thought I had grammar-geek competition!
That spellcheck stuff is a curious thing. There are kids over here (Scotland and wider UK) who have learned, purely from Microsoft, to use Z where S is so-called Queen's English. Words like capitalize, memorize are now onplace here, although not strictly correct.
As a result, lexicographers are taking an either-or attitude to it now.
It's a bit like the generation of continental Europeans, who speak English with an American twang, 'cos they were taught English as a second language by MTV and the like
DAMY
Interesting on the Z stuff. I always notice things like colour, metre, and grey.
I am one of the worse spellers in the world due to typos, and just bad spelling skills. If it wasn't for Firefox spell checking every sentence I would probably have misspellings in every sentence. lol
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I've done lots of research. LOTS. You tell me.
PS: I refrain from speculating when i can, that's what CT nut jobs most of the time.
Yeah? You still haven't gathered the courage to step up to the plate.
So until then, stay bored, stay cowardly.
I HAVE BEEN ON SOME BOARDS IN MY TIME & MET SOME ANTAGONISTIC LITTLE WANKERS (some of whom were Mods).
But I have to say you take the prize for 1st place.
You always try & bounce the Ball back (you tell me - it is down to you to prove other-wise, etc, you weak ass-####), you knew what I was getting at in my last post, I feel that it is you who is - FUCKING CRAP - at stepping up to the plate.
So tell me, over-fucking-lord of the whole 'JFK' debacle - How did this programme (the name of which eludes you, after so much research, probably need a few more Gigs of RAM) go on to explain................. ..
how 'Oswald' managed to get an exit wound, the size of an Base-ball in the rear of 'JFK's' cranium, from his 'LUP' ??? ??? ??? (behind & to the right of Kennedy) - WEIRD !!
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People make TV shows for many reasons most of which have to do with profit.
LMFAO !! - You need to call 'the national geographic' Chanel - as I think they missed that meeting dude ;)
What have this man 'Zahi Hawass' & 'NG' managed to conger up with just ancient Egyptian History ?? I mean - WOW - are you selling, coz I am buying, bwahahaha.
People make TV shows for many reasons most of which have to do with profit.
Also, if you knew the history of exchanges between me and pillowtalk regarding JFK you'll see that he makes assertions then runs after they are soundly debunked.
Examples ??
You have - NEVER - brought any point to a state of being, beyond reasonable doubt.
I am fast becoming of the opinion that you are a - SHILL TWAT - are you 'ADL' ??
Every single thing in History that looks like it might have a little skulduggery, attached, to it - Ozmo tears, into the nearest phone booth (not box 'DAMY' this is Americy) & comes out, nano-seconds later in a cape - with his, RED, pants on his head !!
DO NOT FEAR PEOPLE OF EARTH - OZMO - IS HERE - (voice of Eric Idle, doing the - I bet she does, nug nug, wink wink - scetch) Oh, & by the way, I have a perfectly rational explanation for all of it, OK !! ;D ;D ;D ;D
You at the back sir - you wood like alf a Duzen wud ya, nah promlum guvna - yur a right toff & no mistake in'cha hey ??
You fucking cretin :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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LMFAO !! - You need to call 'the national geographic' Chanel - as I think they missed that meeting dude ;)
What have this man 'Zahi Hawass' & 'NG' managed to conger up with just ancient Egyptian History ?? I mean - WOW - are you selling, coz I am buying, bwahahaha.
Examples ??
You have - NEVER - brought any point to a state of being, beyond reasonable doubt.
I am fast becoming of the opinion that you are a - SHILL TWAT - are you 'ADL' ??
Every single thing in History that looks like it might have a little skulduggery, attached, to it - Ozmo tears, into the nearest phone booth (not box 'DAMY' this is Americy) & comes out, nano-seconds later in a cape - with his, RED, pants on his head !!
DO NOT FEAR PEOPLE OF EARTH - OZMO - IS HERE - (voice of Eric Idle, doing the - I bet she does, nug nug, wink wink - scetch) Oh, & by the way, I have a perfectly rational explanation for all of it, OK !! ;D ;D ;D ;D
You at the back sir - you wood like alf a Duzen wud ya, nah promlum guvna - yur a right toff & no mistake in'cha hey ??
You fucking cretin :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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Go back and remind yourself of your cowardliness on the JFK thread where you've been owned like a little discarded bitch you troll.
All fluff and no substance.
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Go back and remind yourself of your cowardliness on the JFK thread where you've been owned like a little discarded bitch you troll.
All fluff and no substance.
I am into lifting weight - I have more right to be here than the (how many exactly is it at now) Shmucks who don't even train - or who look like a Water Buffalo !! LMFAO - Troll indeed..............wank er.
You like bouncing the ball back - so you go get the quotes & out-line where I have done as you say, you are are full of fucking shit mate !!
I could give a fuck if you are a Mod here - you are a wanker - end of. ;D ;)
FUCKING TARD !! :o :o ::) ::)
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Did you side step this one for any-other reason - than you got told ??
I am honestly interested.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=278863.msg3965070#new
Ozmo - did you even read my fucking post, or just speed read with a need to find a sarcastic response.
You may want to spend a little more time reading, & less time dropping the ball. ;) ;D ;D
In your desperation to show me up, you made your self look a CLOWN - OR WAS IT THAT, LIKE YOUR LAST PRESIDENT - you had NO-fucking-idea where the 'Sahara desert' was in relation to the 'Giza plateau' ?? what is it that yanks are know worldwide to be absolutely shit at ??
Geography past Mexico & Canada, hahahahahahah........... .. :o ::) :o ::) ::
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I am into lifting weight - I have more right to be here than the (how many exactly is it at now) Shmucks who don't even train - or who like like a Water Buffalo !! LMFAO - Troll indeed..............wank er.
You like bouncing the ball back - so you go get the quotes & out-line where I have done as you say, you are are full of fucking shit mate !!
I could give a fuck if you are a Mod here - you are a wanker - end of. ;D ;)
FUCKING TARD !! :o :o ::) ::)
Did you side step this one for any-other reason - than you got told ??
I am honestly interested.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=278863.msg3965070#new
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All fluff and no substance.
business as usual for you.
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Please tell me you are under 30 !! FFS.
Not one attempt to back up your shit.
KAY !!
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Please tell me you are under 30 !! FFS.
Not one attempt to back up your shit.
KAY !!
SNORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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All fluff and no substance.
business as usual for you.
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Go back and remind yourself of your cowardliness on the JFK thread where you've been owned like a little discarded bitch you troll.
All fluff and no substance.
Here's a clue.
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Are you going to answer the question or not - or are we going to play juvenile games all night - what are you Hersh's brother now ??
Just - FUCKING TELL ME - where you owned shit on the 'JFK' debacle ??
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Are you going to answer the question or not - or are we going to play juvenile games all night - what are you Hersh's brother now ??
Just - FUCKING TELL ME - where you owned shit on the 'JFK' debacle ??
Yawn.
I think your ADD is worse than mine.
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Yawn.
I think your ADD is worse than mine.
So, is it the 'ADD' that made you see the world like 'G.W.Bush' - LIKE YOUR LAST PRESIDENT - you had NO-fucking-idea where the 'Sahara desert' was in relation to the 'Giza plateau' ?? what is it that yanks are know world-wide to be absolutely shit at ??
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So, is it the 'ADD' that made you see the world like 'G.W.Bush' - LIKE YOUR LAST PRESIDENT - you had NO-fucking-idea where the 'Sahara desert' was in relation to the 'Giza plateau' ?? what is it that yanks are know world-wide to be absolutely shit at ??
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What you blabbering on about now mouth piece?
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All fluff and no substance.
Business as usual for you, stupid clown.
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What you blabbering on about now mouth piece?
Cozmo - dude - you got your geography all up & down baby - just admit it.
You fucked up !!
Plain & simple.
Now go get me some 'EG's' of where you did the same to me with the 'JFK' schtick................. ...........
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Cozmo - dude - you got your geography all up & down baby - just admit it.
You fucked up !!
Plain & simple.
No get me some 'EG's' of where you did the same to me with the 'JFK' schtick................. ...........
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All fluff and no substance.
business as usual for you.
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All fluff and no substance.
business as usual for you.
TIME OUT - who are you now ?? the mad hatter, make sense, FFS, & stop talking in riddles.
'JFK' the 'TV' program = said what about the entry/exit wounds in 'JFK's' head ??
Plain English - just spit it out - you know you want to.................
Come on lets have you.
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TIME OUT - who are you now ?? the mad hatter, make sense, FFS, & stop talking in riddles.
'JFK' the 'TV' program = said what about the entry/exit wounds in 'JFK's' head ??
Plain English - just spit it out - you know you want to.................
Come on lets have you.
I just woke up and you are making me sleepy again.
I think your ADD gets activated mid-sentence when you read. There is no "JFK" the "TV" program.
There was a TV show called "inside the target car" about the JFK assassination.
Go back and re-read everything. on both threads.
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I just woke up and you are making me sleepy again.
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You are falling into your pattern again
All fluff and no substance.
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You are falling into your pattern again of waiting for me to make an attempt to prove 'LHO' shot Johnny ??
Nah, I am getting piss bored with GetBig in general.
Just thought I would relieve this thread from you tedium - with some-thing nice to look at
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Nah, I am getting piss bored with GetBig in general.
Just thought I would relieve this thread from you tedium - with some-thing nice to look at
Too much for you huh?
the pattern I'm talking about is you falling into disarray followed by deflection, jumping subject and ad-hom.
Nice pics BTW. Is that missile toe?
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Too much for you huh?
the pattern I'm talking about is you falling into disarray followed by deflection, jumping subject and ad-hom.
Nice pics BTW. Is that missile toe?
Yeah, you fancy a 'French Kiss' under it ??
Don't worry, I will turn the lights down & have a close shave ;) ;D
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Yeah, you fancy a 'French Kiss' under it ??
Don't worry, I will turn the lights down & have a close shave ;) ;D
focus PT, focus PT.
Homosexual based distractions won't get you off the hook that easy.
Tell you what, you've lightened up a bit, and i appreciate that.
Go ahead and make your case, one point at a time, using evidence and facts, why JFK was a conspiracy, why the official record is not true.
It's perfectly ok to say, I just don't believe it.
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focus PT, focus PT.
Homosexual based distractions won't get you off the hook that easy.
Tell you what, you've lightened up a bit, and i appreciate that.
Go ahead and make your case, one point at a time, using evidence and facts, why JFK was a conspiracy, why the official record is not true.
It's perfectly ok to say, I just don't believe it.
OK, I am with you on that.
All I remember from the thread (which I looked for & could not find) was telling you that "I have some work to do, you have to be here - I do not" - that is my recollection, yours may differ.
I was going to suggest that we go back to the 'secret service' (from the main Limo) - getting pulled back on that 2'nd to last last right turn, just before the right into Elm streeet.
However, as we are at the bullets 'LHO' fired killing 'JFK' - let us run with that for now.
With that famous 'zapruder clip' it is - VERY - DIFFICULT - to suggest a "LHO" connection to that last head shot (back & to the left) from his 'LUP'.
You can see from the clip just after they pass the sign, that 'JFK' has already been shot (most likely, through the neck from the rear).
But the shot that is - VISIBLE TO ALL - is the tell tale - the skin/water/skull fragments - do not behave like they should, where he shot from his rear/right.
I Shoot a fair bit, so I know a lot about the variant ballistics of rifles & hand guns, & I am not buying this 'LHO schtick' - purely by looking at the film clip.
But let us look at another angle of perception also.
For three decades, people thought the best proof of foul play was a 27-second home movie of the assassination taken by a Dallas dressmaker, 'Abraham Zapruder'.
It shows 'JFK’s' head being blasted backwards & to his left:
Here is a theory to work with (& boy, there are loads around) - or to be considered first.
Things get more complicated (for some people) when we look at the film frame-by-frame. As the bullet hits, JFK’s head first moves (slightly) forwards:This makes things confusing. There seemed to be three possible explanations (I have taken the liberty of adding a fourth):
1) He was hit by two bullets at almost the same time (one from behind, & then one from the front).
2) He was hit from behind, & a jet of brain matter exploding from the front caused his head to recoil backwards.
3) He was hit from behind & some sort of muscle reaction caused his head to fly backwards.
4) enter the magic bullet theory.
People tried to figure this out for three decades. Instead of clearing up the mystery, Zapruder’s film just made things more confusing (for some).
In the 1990s, researchers started to realize that there was a fifth possible explanation. Zapruder’s film might also be a part of the lies & cover-up that agencies of the US Government had weaved around the 'JFK' assassination !!
Scientists examined the Zapruder film. They found that, while most of it looks completely genuine, some of the images are impossible. They violate the laws of physics. They could not have come from ''Zapruder’s home movie camera'.
Zapruder’s film (here is the theory) is a very good forgery. It is almost perfect. Some mistakes took almost 40 years to find.
The scientists also (allegedly) proved that Zapruder’s film was not just changed a little bit. The whole film is a fake !!
A movie film is just a strip of little photos (frames). The fake film was made by cutting & pasting real photos & film frames together to make new frames.
Because the 'Zapruder' film is only 27-seconds long, less than 500 photos needed to be made. The forgers had almost a year to create them, before they were published. This was not difficult to do in 1963 & 1964. People had been creating high quality fake photos since the 1850's !!
So destroy this & then, can we please - have the "inside the target car" - theorem ??
Matt.
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"Evidence" goes from Sumerian tablets describing the "Anunnaki" (which he translates as 2)"those who from heaven to earth came"), to the serpent in the Biblical Garden of Eden, to child abuse, fluoridation,3) and the genealogical connections between the Bush family and the House of Windsor.
Thought we could have a bash at this one at the same time, two games on the go at once (if you will).
1) Where did you get the reference to the Sumerian tablets being used to prop up this Reptilian lunacy ??
2) It was 'Sitchin' & other Cuneiform text - scholars, that made this translation, not D.Icke !!
3) Do you know much about this one ?? let's just say it does not stop with the 'Bush clan' !! LOLOLOLz
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Thought we could have a bash at this one at the same time, two games on the go at once (if you will).
1) Where did you get the reference to the Sumerian tablets being used to prop up this Reptilian lunacy ??
2) It was 'Sitchin' & other Cuneiform text - scholars, that made this translation, not D.Icke !!
3) Do you know much about this one ?? let's just say it does not stop with the 'Bush clan' !! LOLOLOLz
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PT -- nós somos todos os unbelievers.
Thanks PT,
I'm not sure what you are referring to, but i do have a book entitled: "Rule by Secrecy" by Jim Marrs, that talks about the Sumerian text, DNA manipulation and Adam and Eve. It was a entertaining if not good read.
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OK, I am with you on that.
All I remember from the thread (which I looked for & could not find) was telling you that "I have some work to do, you have to be here - I do not" - that is my recollection, yours may differ.
I was going to suggest that we go back to the 'secret service' (from the main Limo) - getting pulled back on that 2'nd to last last right turn, just before the right into Elm streeet.
However, as we are at the bullets 'LHO' fired killing 'JFK' - let us run with that for now.
With that famous 'zapruder clip' it is - VERY - DIFFICULT - to suggest a "LHO" connection to that last head shot (back & to the left) from his 'LUP'.
You can see from the clip just after they pass the sign, that 'JFK' has already been shot (most likely, through the neck from the rear).
But the shot that is - VISIBLE TO ALL - is the tell tale - the skin/water/skull fragments - do not behave like they should, where he shot from his rear/right.
I Shoot a fair bit, so I know a lot about the variant ballistics of rifles & hand guns, & I am not buying this 'LHO schtick' - purely by looking at the film clip.
But let us look at another angle of perception also.
For three decades, people thought the best proof of foul play was a 27-second home movie of the assassination taken by a Dallas dressmaker, 'Abraham Zapruder'.
It shows 'JFK’s' head being blasted backwards & to his left:
Here is a theory to work with (& boy, there are loads around) - or to be considered first.
Things get more complicated (for some people) when we look at the film frame-by-frame. As the bullet hits, JFK’s head first moves (slightly) forwards:This makes things confusing. There seemed to be three possible explanations (I have taken the liberty of adding a fourth):
1) He was hit by two bullets at almost the same time (one from behind, & then one from the front).
2) He was hit from behind, & a jet of brain matter exploding from the front caused his head to recoil backwards.
3) He was hit from behind & some sort of muscle reaction caused his head to fly backwards.
4) enter the magic bullet theory.
People tried to figure this out for three decades. Instead of clearing up the mystery, Zapruder’s film just made things more confusing (for some).
In the 1990s, researchers started to realize that there was a fifth possible explanation. Zapruder’s film might also be a part of the lies & cover-up that agencies of the US Government had weaved around the 'JFK' assassination !!
Scientists examined the Zapruder film. They found that, while most of it looks completely genuine, some of the images are impossible. They violate the laws of physics. They could not have come from ''Zapruder’s home movie camera'.
Zapruder’s film (here is the theory) is a very good forgery. It is almost perfect. Some mistakes took almost 40 years to find.
The scientists also (allegedly) proved that Zapruder’s film was not just changed a little bit. The whole film is a fake !!
A movie film is just a strip of little photos (frames). The fake film was made by cutting & pasting real photos & film frames together to make new frames.
Because the 'Zapruder' film is only 27-seconds long, less than 500 photos needed to be made. The forgers had almost a year to create them, before they were published. This was not difficult to do in 1963 & 1964. People had been creating high quality fake photos since the 1850's !!
So destroy this & then, can we please - have the "inside the target car" - theorem ??
Matt.
Just curious, why did you sign "matt" Are you MattC? I don't care, the gimmick thing never bothered me much.
I won't be able to address this for the next 2 days. I'll be entrench at work. It will take some time to answer to some of the assertions you brought up here.
I'll try to address them one at a time.
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NO I am Matt-H.
Every-one knows what matt looks like - he has his own board, FFS.
My pics are on here (have been for ages) I have offered to web-cam (show my face) with any-one here who doubts my authenticity.
I have TARD - AFTER - TARD - (present company accepted) scream gimmick at me, however, every one of them - bar NONE - has failed to meet the challenge.
You know who you are !! haha - guess with the gimmick thing being your only retort, parting with it would leave your position very unstable, yes ??
So - Ozmo, you got a web-cam ??
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I was going to suggest that we go back to the 'secret service' (from the main Limo) - getting pulled back on that 2'nd to last last right turn, just before the right into Elm streeet.
Not sure what you are talking about here. The ABC video was taken at love field.
However, as we are at the bullets 'LHO' fired killing 'JFK' - let us run with that for now.
With that famous 'zapruder clip' it is - VERY - DIFFICULT - to suggest a "LHO" connection to that last head shot (back & to the left) from his 'LUP'.
You can see from the clip just after they pass the sign, that 'JFK' has already been shot (most likely, through the neck from the rear).
But the shot that is - VISIBLE TO ALL - is the tell tale - the skin/water/skull fragments - do not behave like they should, where he shot from his rear/right.
The film is just one bit of evidence. If i remember it right, the first shot hit, just below the neck, the second missed, and the third hit his head.
I Shoot a fair bit, so I know a lot about the variant ballistics of rifles & hand guns, & I am not buying this 'LHO schtick' - purely by looking at the film clip.
Nor would anyone else. That's why there is other evidence.
But let us look at another angle of perception also.
For three decades, people thought the best proof of foul play was a 27-second home movie of the assassination taken by a Dallas dressmaker, 'Abraham Zapruder'.
It shows 'JFK’s' head being blasted backwards & to his left:
Here is a theory to work with (& boy, there are loads around) - or to be considered first.
Things get more complicated (for some people) when we look at the film frame-by-frame. As the bullet hits, JFK’s head first moves (slightly) forwards:This makes things confusing. There seemed to be three possible explanations (I have taken the liberty of adding a fourth):
1) He was hit by two bullets at almost the same time (one from behind, & then one from the front).
2) He was hit from behind, & a jet of brain matter exploding from the front caused his head to recoil backwards.
3) He was hit from behind & some sort of muscle reaction caused his head to fly backwards.
4) enter the magic bullet theory.
People tried to figure this out for three decades. Instead of clearing up the mystery, Zapruder’s film just made things more confusing (for some).
In the 1990s, researchers started to realize that there was a fifth possible explanation. Zapruder’s film might also be a part of the lies & cover-up that agencies of the US Government had weaved around the 'JFK' assassination !!
Scientists examined the Zapruder film. They found that, while most of it looks completely genuine, some of the images are impossible. They violate the laws of physics. They could not have come from ''Zapruder’s home movie camera'.
Zapruder’s film (here is the theory) is a very good forgery. It is almost perfect. Some mistakes took almost 40 years to find.
The scientists also (allegedly) proved that Zapruder’s film was not just changed a little bit. The whole film is a fake !!
A movie film is just a strip of little photos (frames). The fake film was made by cutting & pasting real photos & film frames together to make new frames.
Because the 'Zapruder' film is only 27-seconds long, less than 500 photos needed to be made. The forgers had almost a year to create them, before they were published. This was not difficult to do in 1963 & 1964. People had been creating high quality fake photos since the 1850's !!
That's kind of just over the top silly. The Zapruder film is part of the conspiracy?
So destroy this & then, can we please - have the "inside the target car" - theorem ??
Matt.
Inside the Target Car was just a documentary that showed how the bullets and body reacted by conducting recreations using test dummies with simulated brains and flesh. It supported the theory that LHO shot him.
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Thought we could have a bash at this one at the same time, two games on the go at once (if you will).
1) Where did you get the reference to the Sumerian tablets being used to prop up this Reptilian lunacy ??
2) It was 'Sitchin' & other Cuneiform text - scholars, that made this translation, not D.Icke !!
3) Do you know much about this one ?? let's just say it does not stop with the 'Bush clan' !! LOLOLOLz
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PT -- nós somos todos os unbelievers.
So, NO.3) what is your opinion on the bush clan having 'Kin ties' with the (laughably called) house of Windsor - LOLOLOLOLz - sorry I do that every time I say 'WINDSOR' - lololololZ.............. .
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1)Not sure what you are talking about here. The ABC video was taken at love field.
2)The film is just one bit of evidence. If i remember it right, the first shot hit, just below the neck, the second missed, and the third hit his head.
3) Nor would anyone else. That's why there is other evidence.
4)That's kind of just over the top silly. The Zapruder film is part of the conspiracy?
5) Inside the Target Car was just a documentary that showed how the bullets and body reacted by conducting recreations using test dummies with simulated brains and flesh. It supported the theory that LHO shot him.
1) You got me, I fucked up on location.
2) Allegedly
3) & there is not just more !! there is a shit load more !!
4) I agree, but as it is possible, it has yet to be discounted (they are the rules)
5) I know I have seen it, I wanted your take on it - mine is, that it is '100% 'BS'
Ok - let's move on the the single shooter theory.
The single shooter theorem.
Let us do away with this first, so as to narrow down the options a little, thusly, getting closer to the actual events.
PT1
PTII
PTIII = entry wound - vs - exit wound ??
PTIIII = entry wound - vs - exit wound - cont.....
PTIIIII the prefect bullet on the hospital trolley (to me this one is reminiscent of 'Mohammed Atta's' Pass-port on the 'NY' side walk) .
I think we can both agree that the lone shooter theory is - 'BUNK' - YES ?? (Bunk a 'South London' term - meaning spurious)
But feel free to pull it apart.
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4) I agree, but as it is possible, it has yet to be discounted (they are the rules)
What do you mean? What rules? Are you saying that because certain possibility hasn't been discounted then it's possible? Well then Jesus Christ while on LSD shot Kennedy with a holy rubber band gun.
If that's what you mean it's more flawed CT'er logic.
PTII
At about 5:50 it talks about the length of reaction time for governor Connelly versus Kennedy. When Kennedy is said to react (frame 225) the governor doesn't react until (frame 237) the Zapruder film is 18.3 frames per second. Or .0546 seconds per frame making the governor's reaction time to getting shot "as we can see it from the blurry film" .6 of a second. Not even a full breath. (inhale/exhale) Perfectly reasonable. The governor's aid even over states the obvious that President had been struck before the governor. The problem with this assertion or theory is that reaction time is not a true indicator or when a person got shot especially when it comes down to 10ths of seconds. Factor in the governor being older and having slower reaction times...
The first 4 Google hits all say 18.3 frames per second.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapruder_film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapruder_film)
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ2.htm (http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/organ2.htm)
http://www.jfk.org/go/collections/about/zapruder-film-chronology (http://www.jfk.org/go/collections/about/zapruder-film-chronology)
http://www.theblackvault.com/wiki/index.php/Zapruder_film (http://www.theblackvault.com/wiki/index.php/Zapruder_film)
This "documentary" you pulled from the internet seems very dated. It looks like it was put together before modern forensics and ballistic expertise was as available as it is today. The old guy at the end of part 2 talks about how he hasn't see anything that says it was single bullet. Chances are he hasn't seen anything since the 60's. Then he says they ignored what the initial findings and premature conclusions were because they were determined to conclude is a single shooter. That just tells me this guy is a garden variety CT whack job.
Part 2 makes no dents in the single bullet theory. Even the thing about the nerve and the hat.
So Part 3 starts with how the warren commission ignores the evidence of the Zapruter film. If they are using the flawed conclusions from part 2 concerning reaction times as a basis for the rest of this doc then it's NOT worth my time to sit for the next 30 minutes and listen to it. It's junk dude.
I don't mind watching a few vids. but if we are going to continue this, I'd rather you write out your conclusions (with details, not just "I think it's BS") and use time markers to back them up on vids or quotes from links with the links, that way i don't don't need to waste my time listening to a bunch of ignorant old men on some old ass doc made in a time when people are far less knowledgeable then they are now. If your strategy is to keep posting vids, (and I'm sure there is a trove of them in youtube), I won't have time to sit and watch them all. Make you own arguments and back them up in a way i can easily verify your support material. Like i did with the 18.3 frames per second. I'm not trying to be a dick, but i can see where this might be going.
If there is anything else of note or worth bringing up part 3-4-5 Then please cite the time markers so i can go right to them.
Again, I'm not trying to be an asshole here, I just don't have time to watch 50 minute long ancient vids that pretty much are junk.
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5) I know I have seen it, I wanted your take on it - mine is, that it is '100% 'BS'
Exactly why do you think that?
Also, if the Zapruder film is a fake, as you suggested, then why didn't they make reactions times match perfectly?
See, you are not making a whole lot of sense here.
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OzmO, you're losing respect here, you should know better than trying to put some sense into racists retards like him.
The time that you spend on him will never come back....those precious minutes of your life are lost for eternity.....leave him to his ignorant views.
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why didn't you fuckers tell me this turned to JFK >:(
I expect to be notified promptly next time >:(
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OzmO, you're losing respect here, you should know better than trying to put some sense into racists retards like him.
The time that you spend on him will never come back....those precious minutes of your life are lost for eternity.....leave him to his ignorant views.
& our spiritually evolved being (friend here) entertains - NO- bigotry at all, huh ??
Honestly, you - NEED - to watch the 'Noam Chompsky' lecture I posted in 'BF's' thread about Muslim Terrorists.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=281463.msg3982199#new
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why didn't you fuckers tell me this turned to JFK >:(
I expect to be notified promptly next time >:(
So Mr.the-corporation' - what is you take on the whole single shooter (LHO) schtick ??
'BTW' - I have the DVD (with all the extra interviews) classic film for any-one with the ol'eyes open !!
Posilac 'BGH' - Monsanto - definition of a psychopath = corporate behavior (every box ticked) etc.........
Great documentary !!
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& our spiritually evolved being (friend here) entertains - NO- bigotry at all, huh ??
Honestly, you - NEED - to watch the 'Noam Chompsky' lecture I posted in 'BF's' thread about Muslim Terrorists.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=281463.msg3982199#new
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Yeah, it's way over 15 mins - nearer the hour mark.
I could see why you may wish to bail.
'Adult 'ADD' any-one ?? :-X
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Yeah, it's way over 15 mins - nearer the hour mark.
I could see why you may wish to bail.
'Adult 'ADD' any-one ?? :-X
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So Mr.the-corporation' - what is you take on the whole single shooter (LHO) schtick ??
'BTW' - I have the DVD (with all the extra interviews) classic film for any-one with the ol'eyes open !!
Posilac 'BGH' - Monsanto - definition of a psychopath = corporate behavior (every box ticked) etc.........
Great documentary !!
So 'Hugo' what ya havin fa dinna laters man, innit ?? ??? ???
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So Mr.the-corporation' - what is you take on the whole single shooter (LHO) schtick ??
'BTW' - I have the DVD (with all the extra interviews) classic film for any-one with the ol'eyes open !!
Posilac 'BGH' - Monsanto - definition of a psychopath = corporate behavior (every box ticked) etc.........
Great documentary !!
I have it too.
Single shooter = pure BS.
Check out my thread on ABS: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread411261/pg1
I have more work to do on it, but it's a good start.
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So 'Hugo' what ya havin fa dinna laters man, innit ?? ??? ???
what? lol..
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what? lol..
Sarf Landan talk, innit mate, na't I mean ??
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Sarf Landan talk, innit mate, na't I mean ??
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So I have not seen one bit of good evidence that there was a second shooter. In the 70's home movie documentary featuring senile old crack pots and a daniel faraday look alike we start from the premise that 6/10ths of second is too long for some one to have a reaction on a blurry film shot at 18.3 frames per second. Sorry, that's not even close to reasonable especially when the PT also believes in the possibility of a fake Zapruder film.
But we do have much opinion. Which is good I guess.
Can some one please present some evidence of a second shooter?
Also, Hugo, any more new info on your pre-photoshop era LHO photo graph theory?
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Also, Hugo, any more new info on your pre-photoshop era LHO photo graph theory?
nothing yet, it'll probably be several months but I'll post links to it when it's done. Not that you'll actually give a shit :D
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OzmO, you're losing respect here, you should know better than trying to put some sense into racists retards like him.
The time that you spend on him will never come back....those precious minutes of your life are lost for eternity.....leave him to his ignorant views.
Not really, because this is a opportunity for me to become very knowledgeable on the JFK assassination and at the same time understand the spin CT'ers put in vids and info to come to their conclusions.
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nothing yet, it'll probably be several months but I'll post links to it when it's done. Not that you'll actually give a shit :D
If I wasn't interested I wouldn't ask.
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Ozmo, at this point, you're invested in your opinion. We both know the reality is that very few people ever change their minds once taking a hard stance. The kind of evidence you will require to change your opinion in this matter is not likely to ever surface. I think we both know that.
but I will share new info as I get it for the fun of it. I do plan on continuing my work.
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Not really, because this is a opportunity for me to become very knowledgeable on the JFK assassination and at the same time understand the spin CT'ers put in vids and info to come to their conclusions.
If you say so, I still think that conversing with him and a few others here is nothing but precious time that is wasted.
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If you say so, I still think that conversing with him and a few others here is nothing but precious time that is wasted.
Classic 'Green eyed' monster shit haha..........
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Sorry, that's not even close to reasonable especially when the PT also believes in the possibility of a fake Zapruder film.
EMPIRE.
That ball was chalk dust !! I said "it has yet to be discounted"
Can some one please present some evidence of a second shooter?
I need to go through, & list all the bits you missed (the perfect bullet on the hospital trolley being one).
Then we will continue - 'Hugy Baby' feel free to join in at any point.
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Ozmo, at this point, you're invested in your opinion. We both know the reality is that very few people ever change their minds once taking a hard stance. The kind of evidence you will require to change your opinion in this matter is not likely to ever surface. I think we both know that.
but I will share new info as I get it for the fun of it. I do plan on continuing my work.
The thing is, I haven't taken a hard stance. It appears that way to you because you are on the opposite side of the stance I've taken. If I've taken a hard stance I wouldn't entertain the analysis of the assertions presented from the other side. I would simply dismiss it with opinion and not give it reasonable investigation. However, i do entertain and are open to points of inquiry. The problems is, you don't like my conclusions because they don't match yours.
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EMPIRE.
That ball was chalk dust !! I said "it has yet to be discounted"
Still don't know what you are talking about.
I need to go through, & list all the bits you missed (the perfect bullet on the hospital trolley being one).
Then we will continue - 'Hugy Baby' feel free to join in at any point.
Please do. And be sure to list the time markers.
Thanks.
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If you say so, I still think that conversing with him and a few others here is nothing but precious time that is wasted.
We will see. He hasn't shown me much yet except for a old video and some cut and paste.
Also, If I can past all the fluff with some of the others, we can get down to crunching the facts.
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The thing is, I haven't taken a hard stance. It appears that way to you because you are on the opposite side of the stance I've taken. If I've taken a hard stance I wouldn't entertain the analysis of the assertions presented from the other side. I would simply dismiss it with opinion and not give it reasonable investigation. However, i do entertain and are open to points of inquiry. The problems is, you don't like my conclusions because they don't match yours.
fooled me then. not sure I believe you're open on this.
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fooled me then. not sure I believe you're open on this.
If I wasn't open, I wouldn't waste my time here. But you gotta remember, I'm starting from the position of accepting the "official story" until proved otherwise. So i will shrewdly examine anything presented as anyone would no matter what side they are on.
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If I wasn't open, I wouldn't waste my time here. But you gotta remember, I'm starting from the position of accepting the "official story" until proved otherwise. So i will shrewdly examine anything presented as anyone would no matter what side they are on.
yea, like I said, it's highly unlikely that the type of material you require will ever surface... So what's the motive or point?
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yea, like I said, it's highly unlikely that the type of material you require will ever surface... So what's the motive or point?
We are talking about a search for the truth here. Why shouldn't we shrewdly examine every bit of evidence? Are we just to accept theories and opinions without examination simply because they sound good or make sense on the surface? Like for example the assertion of the video PT on part 2 that the time delay was significant. But when examined it was found to be fluff.
If there is solid evidence of a Jfk conspiracy i wanna see it.
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Paul Is Dead
Maybe you're amazed, but in 1969 major news outlets reported on rumors of the cute Beatle's death and replacement by a look-alike. True believers pointed to a series of clues buried in the Fab Four's songs and album covers. Even for skeptics, McCartney's later solo career lent credibility to the theory.
this is a good one
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Reptilians.