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What do you think about this?
Hawaii lawmakers create 'Islam Day'
Associated Press
Hawaii is planning to celebrate "Islam Day" over the objections of state lawmakers who associate extremist Muslims with terrorism.
The resolution to proclaim Sept. 24, 2009, as Islam Day passed the Senate yesterday on a 22-3 vote.
As more than 100 Christians gathered in the Senate to oppose same-sex civil unions cheered, the Senate's two Republicans argued that members of all religions shouldn't forget the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Democrats countered that the diversity and positive contributions of the Islamic world should be honored.
The resolution does not call for any spending or organized celebration of Islam Day.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090507/BREAKING01/305070011/-1
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What do you think about this?
Hawaii lawmakers create 'Islam Day'
Associated Press
Hawaii is planning to celebrate "Islam Day" over the objections of state lawmakers who associate extremist Muslims with terrorism.
The resolution to proclaim Sept. 24, 2009, as Islam Day passed the Senate yesterday on a 22-3 vote.
As more than 100 Christians gathered in the Senate to oppose same-sex civil unions cheered, the Senate's two Republicans argued that members of all religions shouldn't forget the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Democrats countered that the diversity and positive contributions of the Islamic world should be honored.
The resolution does not call for any spending or organized celebration of Islam Day.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090507/BREAKING01/305070011/-1
I think it's a waste of time and energy to have any kind of "day" honoring a religion.
So are Christian, Buddhists, Hindu, etc... days next?
There are roads that need to be repaired there, education programs being canceled, people not getting the medical care they need, etc. and some group of dip sticks decides to spend money to enact "Islam day"
They should be taken out back and slapped.
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Does a Christian day exist? If so why not - in regards to WHY and WHAT is the motive behind an "islam day".
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I think it's a waste of time and energy to have any kind of "day" honoring a religion.
So are Christian, Buddhists, Hindu, etc... days next?
There are roads that need to be repaired there, education programs being canceled, people not getting the medical care they need, etc. and some group of dip sticks decides to spend money to enact "Islam day"
They should be taken out back and slapped.
...ummm, is that really what's taking place?
What do you think about this?
Hawaii lawmakers create 'Islam Day'
Associated Press
Hawaii is planning to celebrate "Islam Day" over the objections of state lawmakers who associate extremist Muslims with terrorism.
The resolution to proclaim Sept. 24, 2009, as Islam Day passed the Senate yesterday on a 22-3 vote.
As more than 100 Christians gathered in the Senate to oppose same-sex civil unions cheered, the Senate's two Republicans argued that members of all religions shouldn't forget the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Democrats countered that the diversity and positive contributions of the Islamic world should be honored.
The resolution does not call for any spending or organized celebration of Islam Day.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090507/BREAKING01/305070011/-1
Does a Christian day exist? If so why not - in regards to WHY and WHAT is the motive behind an "islam day".
I don't know, ...would that be Christmas, ...or possibly Easter? ???
...or do those not really count since they're actually co-opted pagan celebrations, and not really Christian in origin?
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...ummm, is that really what's taking place?
I don't know, ...would that be Christmas, ...or possibly Easter? ???
...or do those not really count since they're actually co-opted pagan celebrations, and not really Christian in origin?
Wow...you really are predictable.
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...ummm, is that really what's taking place?
I don't know, ...would that be Christmas, ...or possibly Easter? ???
...or do those not really count since they're actually co-opted pagan celebrations, and not really Christian in origin?
For someone with 160 IQ you're one stupid individual - you must be freakishly good in 1 area of intelligence that can be measured because overall I know smarter dogs.
You are aware muslims are free to celebrate Eid etc. in much the same way Christians celebrate Christmas.
Now I'll ask again; When is "Christian / Judaism / Hindu Day" so that adherents "X" can celebrate inventions, the arts and other positive aspect of religion X's contributions to Western Society?
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What do you think about this?
Hawaii lawmakers create 'Islam Day'
Associated Press
Hawaii is planning to celebrate "Islam Day" over the objections of state lawmakers who associate extremist Muslims with terrorism.
The resolution to proclaim Sept. 24, 2009, as Islam Day passed the Senate yesterday on a 22-3 vote.
As more than 100 Christians gathered in the Senate to oppose same-sex civil unions cheered, the Senate's two Republicans argued that members of all religions shouldn't forget the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Democrats countered that the diversity and positive contributions of the Islamic world should be honored.
The resolution does not call for any spending or organized celebration of Islam Day.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090507/BREAKING01/305070011/-1
what exactly is Islam's postitive contribution? ::) Islam day, now I've heard it all ::) also LOL at the two republicans using 9/11 as an agrument against this...
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what exactly is Islam's postitive contribution? ::) Islam day, now I've heard it all ::) also LOL at the two republicans using 9/11 as an agrument against this...
That's another problem, individual muslims have invented things and provided to scientific study - but islamic ideology has this way of assuming it's an invention of "islam".
Much like a "Christian" invention doesn't make sense either.
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Do you trolls know the difference between a question and a statement?
If you don't, ...I'll tell you.
A statement ends in a little dot called a period. It looks like this (.)
A question ends in a curly cue with a dot called a question mark. It looks like this (?)
A question is sometimes prefaced with the statement 'I don't know.'
Whenever you see the statement 'I don't know', followed by a question, AND an emoticon looking like this ???
...chances are very likely, you are being presented with a question.
And yes I am aware that Muslims are capable of celebrating Eid, ...however governments, industries, and stock exchanges in the USA do not shut down in order to accomodate it.
{pssst} ...your blue eyes are showing. ;)
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what exactly is Islam's postitive contribution? ::) Islam day, now I've heard it all ::) also LOL at the two republicans using 9/11 as an agrument against this...
Islamic culture gave birth to the European Renaissance. It's relationship to Hawaii isn't something I'm aware of tho
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And yes I am aware that Muslims are capable of celebrating Eid, ...however governments, industries, and stock exchanges in the USA do not shut down in order to accomodate it.
I'll ignore most of your post as stupid criticism to make you feel intelligent and good about yourself is irrelevant.
So you think they should simple accommodate muslims? Where's the logic in that?
Surely to emphasise secularism i.e. remove all religious celebrations from public holidays etc. would be a better form of action?
But of course you for left apologists simply don't apply logic to your thought process.
Islamic culture gave birth to the European Renaissance. It's relationship to Hawaii isn't something I'm aware of tho
The Renaissance was a European creation due to conflict with muslim military expansionism on the Spanish front amongst other more complex things in Italy.
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Islamic culture gave birth to the European Renaissance.
hahahaha ::)
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That's another problem, individual muslims have invented things and provided to scientific study - but islamic ideology has this way of assuming it's an invention of "islam".
Much like a "Christian" invention doesn't make sense either.
yea, I would like to know what the contributions of Islam are? LOL, if anything it's held people back. Fantastic contribution lol ::) certainly nothing worth declaring a day to celebrate.
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I'll ignore most of your post as stupid criticism to make you feel intelligent and good about yourself is irrelevant.
So you think they should simple accommodate muslims? Where's the logic in that?
Surely to emphasise secularism i.e. remove all religious celebrations from public holidays etc. would be a better form of action?
But of course you for left apologists simply don't apply logic to your thought process.
Actually I have no opinion on it at all. I didn't even click the link.
I was merely pointing out something in Beach bum's post that Ozmo clearly overlooked, and answering the question you asked. You asked if Christians had a day, ...those 2 were the closest days I could think of that could fit. You make the mistake of assuming I agree with what they did, and am in complete support of it. I don't know why they voted the way they did, ...and quite frankly, I don't care. I have yet to hear anything that makes me care about this 'issue' one way or the other.
The Renaissance was a European creation due to conflict with muslim military expansionism on the Spanish front.
::) Enjoy your re-vised version of history if it makes you feel better about yourself.
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Actually I have no opinion on it at all. I didn't even click the link.
I was merely pointing out something in Beach bum's post that Ozmo clearly overlooked, and answering the question you asked. You asked if Christians had a day, ...those 2 were the closest days I could think of that could fit. You make the mistake of assuming I agree with what they did, and am in complete support of it. I don't know why they voted the way they did, ...and quite frankly, I don't care. I have yet to hear anything that makes me care about this 'issue' one way or the other.
::) Enjoy your re-vised version of history if it makes you feel better about yourself.
Huh?
OK you made the statement, convince me what you said is true.
Islamic culture didn't give birth to the Renaissance. Islamic militarism did tho, by creating a unified Europe and infusing Greek knowledge into Western thought.
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Huh?
OK you made the statement, convince me what you said is true.
Islamic culture didn't give birth to the Renaissance. Islamic militarism did tho, by creating a unified Europe and infusing Greek knowledge into Western thought.
what a slap in the face giving Islam credit for the Renaissance knowing how much Islam has actually held BACK people. Hey, it might be 1 step forward and 10 steps back, but lets celebrate their contribution anyway lol...
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what a slap in the face giving Islam credit for the Renaissance knowing how much Islam has actually held BACK people. Hey, it might be 1 step forward and 10 steps back, but lets celebrate their contribution anyway lol...
Its strange really... the expansionism of the Ottoman empire forced non-muslim scholars to evacuate their lives due to islamic military expansionism and move to Italy, bringing with them their Greek scrolls etc. whilst at the same time islamic military endeavours on the Spanish front caused the European kings to unify their resources and power to unite Europe against a common enemy - Yet somehow, islam is responsible in a POSITIVE light only... :-\
A large proportion of the scholars in muslim controlled lands at the time who utilized old Greek philosophy etc. were in fact Christians.
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Its strange really... the expansionism of the Ottoman empire forced non-muslim scholars to evacuate their lives due to islamic military expansionism and move to Italy, bringing with them their Greek scrolls etc. whilst at the same time islamic military endeavours on the Spanish front caused the European kings to unify their resources and power to unite Europe against a common enemy - Yet somehow, islam is responsible in a POSITIVE light only... :-\
A large proportion of the scholars in muslim controlled lands at the time who utilized old Greek philosophy etc. were in fact Christians.
Turn My Back on Yesterday
Whispered words and stories told
Reputations bought and sold
Truths a luxury we can't afford
Always thought I'd lead a simple life
I've learned my lesson
Now I've paid my price
The truth is one thing that can't be ignored
And when I crash into your arms
I'll let the memories drift away
Close the door on what's come before
Turn my back on yesterday
Remember when the world seemed new
The time was right for what we wanted to do
But those days are gone
Killed by the cold
Today I live my life a broken man
Too weak to fight
Too weak to take a stand
Can it be right for someone young
To feel so old?
And when I crash into your arms
I'll let the memories drift away
Close the door on what's come before
Turn my back on yesterday
You shelter me
You comfort me
You know every feeling inside of me
Believe in me
Put your faith in me
And bring out the strongest inside of me
And when I crash into your arms
I'll let the memories drift away
Close the door on what's come before
Turn my back on yesterday.
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Clip My Wings
You flash that knowing smile
And bat those eyes
But I know that all the while
You're manufacturing lies
You swear that you're always behind me
And on my side
But when the world is collapsing around me
It seems your promises die
The one that I love the most
Should'nt have to ask why
And right when I need you most
Right when I'm learning to fly
You clip my wings
I try to ignore your pretending
Your jealous gaze
But I'm tired of always defending
The way I live out my days
You know where to hit me to hurt me
To shoot me down
If only you'd turn and desert me
Then I could turn life around
The one that I love the most
Should'nt have to ask why
And right when I need you most
Right when I'm learning to fly
You clip my wings
Like an angel before my eyes
You descended one day
Pulled me back up on my feet
And promised me that you'd stay
But all those words are ringing
Hollow in my mind
You cripple me
And then expect me to be kind
You clip my wings
The one that I love the most
Should'nt have to ask why
And right when I need you most
Right when I'm learning to fly
You clip my wings.
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That's a solid album cover no doubt :D
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That's a solid album cover no doubt :D
I wish I had your computer skills man... :-\
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Nothing.
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...ummm, is that really what's taking place?
I don't know, ...would that be Christmas, ...or possibly Easter? ???
...or do those not really count since they're actually co-opted pagan celebrations, and not really Christian in origin?
The spent money to "enact" it. People where getting paid while attention was spent on deciding this stupid endeavor were they not?
Also money has to be spent to make it "official" right?
There might not be parades, scholarships, memorials etc... But money was spent for this stupid idea, along with energy and time, while it could have been spent, figuring out how to ease traffic on H1, H3 , and H2.
One time traffic was at a stand still for almost 12 hours in that place because a person tried to commit suicide by jumping off an overpass. Some People died in their cars from heat. Yet they want to talk about Islam day. F-ing idiots.
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Posted on: Sunday, May 31, 2009
Hawaii's Islam Day resolution stirs passions here, on Mainland
By Christie Wilson
Advertiser Staff Writer
Debate over a legislative resolution designating Sept. 24, 2009, as Islam Day is testing Hawai'i's reputation as a cultural melting pot.
House Concurrent Resolution 100, establishing a single day this year to acknowledge "the rich religious, scientific, cultural, and artistic contributions" of the Islamic world, ignited the passions of those concerned about the connection between the Islam religion and Muslim extremists responsible for the 9/11 attacks and other terrorist acts around the world.
Gov. Linda Lingle's office reported receiving 315 e-mails and 40 calls objecting to Islam Day. About a third were from Mainlanders stirred up by accounts of the resolution on Fox News, CNN and other outlets.
In her May 11 appearance on "The Mike Buck Radio Show" on KHVH, Lingle called the resolution "just unnecessary" and said it was attracting the wrong kind of attention for Hawai'i.
"It just received ridicule all across the country. Everybody knows that the country and all 50 states are facing these historically difficult economic times. I think it's just an expression of them being out of touch," she said.
The Hawai'i Tourism Authority received a single phone call and 18 e-mails from Mainlanders who said they would not visit the state because of the Islam Day resolution.
HTA president and chief executive officer Mike McCartney noted the state has a long list of days celebrating various cultures and religions.
"Hawai'i has long tradition of being a place where people are welcomed, where everyone in the world can visit. It's a place that has tolerance and respect for many cultures and points of view," McCartney said.
In addition to the Christianity-based state holidays of Christmas and Good Friday, state law designates March 21 as Baha'i New Year's Day, April 8 as Buddha Day, and Dec. 8 as Bodhi Day, in honor of Siddhartha Gautama, the founder of Buddhism.
Sept. 24 was chosen as Islam Day because it marks the day, according to the Gregorian calendar, the Prophet Muhammad left Mecca for Medina and is considered the birthdate of Islam.
The Islam Day action, passed by the Senate on a 22-3 vote on May 6 after approval by the House, is only a resolution and will not become part of state law. The resolution also does not call for any public spending or official ceremony to mark the observance.
global citizens
Rep. Lyla Berg, D-8th (Kuli'ou'ou, Niu Valley, 'Aina Haina, Kahala), said she decided to sponsor the resolution following a conversation with constituent Hakim Ouansafi about a move by schools in her district to participate in the International Baccalaureate program, which aims to mold students into global citizens.
Ouansafi is president and chairman of the Muslim Association of Hawai'i and heads a hotel and resort development firm.
"In talking with Hakim, he suggested Islam Day as an opportunity for the community to learn about Islam and promote awareness," she said. "It didn't seem unusual because we have so many days."
Ouansafi estimates there are more than 4,000 Muslims in the state. He said Islam Day will allow his religion to join the list of other faiths that have already been recognized in Hawai'i and will help "bridge the gap of understanding" between Muslims and non-Muslims.
He said the Muslim Association of Hawai'i is planning events in connection with Islam Day aimed at putting misunderstandings aside so "we can all come together and talk about it."
Despite the initial backlash against Islam Day, Ouansafi said the controversy "has actually been wonderful. We had a tremendous amount of calls and e-mails of support once people understood lawmakers weren't declaring a state holiday for Muslims."
Negative reaction
Berg said people who learned of the resolution through Fox News and similar sources "construed the recognition day as meaning we are sympathetic with terrorists. At the very onset, most of the negative e-mails and phone calls were mostly from people from the Mainland. We're not as threatened by differences here," she said.
In her May 11 radio appearance, Lingle criticized Berg for telling a critic of Islam Day not to come to Hawai'i.
"We were getting a lot of angry calls from the Mainland saying, 'We're not coming to a place that's having an Islam Day,' for whatever their reasons were," Lingle said. "So, we referred them all to Lyla Berg. We got a copy of an e-mail that was sent to her, and her response back was basically, 'Maybe it would be just as well if you don't come here.' "
Berg said her reply to the e-mails "was meant with aloha."
"I really felt that if people are so critical of Hawai'i without being here and they are so afraid of Muslims and believe we are terrorist sympathizers, and they are not familiar with Hawai'i's multiracial and multiethnic people, my response was if they are not comfortable in a multicultural environment it may be more comfortable for them to stay home," she said.
"(The resolution) was passed in the spirit of aloha and peace. Here in Hawai'i, that's how we live. Even if we have issues here in Hawai'i, we work them out. I was surprised and disappointed with the governor that she didn't capitalize on the diversity in the community, but she didn't grow up here."
Since the initial negative reaction, Berg said her office has received e-mails from around the world praising Hawai'i's open-mindedness and tolerance.
poor judgment cited
Sens. Fred Hemmings, R-25th (Kailua, Waimanalo, Hawai'i Kai), and Sam Slom, R-8th (Hawai'i Kai, 'Aina Haina, Kahala), the lone Republicans in the Senate, objected to HCR 100, citing Islam's connection to international terrorism.
"It's the old cliche: Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslim," Hemmings said.
Considering terrorism's toll in the United States and elsewhere, Hemmings said the Legislature showed poor judgment in bringing up the resolution.
"I'm aghast that most of the proponents of the resolution have spent more time criticizing those of us concerned about it than criticizing Islamic terrorists," he said. "It goes to show you how misplaced some people's values are."
The senator said he received more than 100 e-mails in support of his stand against Islam Day, about half from Mainlanders.
"I don't oppose the Islamic religion, I oppose terrorists," he said. "I recognize that very many, if not most, Muslims are opposed and are not supporting terrorists."
Also opposing Islam Day, but for different reasons, was Big Island Sen. Josh Green, D-3rd (Kona, Kohala) and the American Civil Liberties Union of Hawai'i. Both objected on the grounds it violates the constitutional separation between church and state.
"The Legislature should not be picking and choosing among religions to honor, no matter how well-intentioned the action," said ACLU senior staff attorney Daniel Gluck in a statement.
He said the ACLU also opposes Buddha Day, Baha'i New Year's Day and Bodhi Day.
"The Constitution does not permit the government to favor one religion over another, and the ACLU would raise similar objections to any resolution seeking to discriminate — for good or ill — against any religious group ... ," Gluck said. "All religions — along with the right not to believe anything at all — should be honored every day, but the government cannot give preferential status to one belief system over another."
Overlooked in the controversy over Islam Day is a new law passed by the Legislature during this year's session designating Sept. 11 as Patriot Day in honor of the victims killed in the 2001 terrorist attacks and acknowledging the bravery of those who assisted in rescue efforts.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090531/NEWS23/905310377
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What do you think about this?
No less wrong than National Day of Prayer.
which of course is totally wrong
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Some points...
Easter is not a recognized legal holiday... No one gets a day off.
Hanukkah is not recognized as a legal holiday... No one gets those days off.
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Some points...
Easter is not a recognized legal holiday... No one gets a day off.
you're right..they get 7 days off Lol
grade school and college of course.
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you're right..they get 7 days off Lol
grade school and college of course.
My college didn't get Easter off. The only holiday during the semester we get off is Labor Day. And as far as I know, most universities don't.
Muslims suck. This "celebration" of Islam is preposterous. Wonder if they plan to celebrate with a beheading and stoning to death a teenage girl?
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My college didn't get Easter off. The only holiday during the semester we get off is Labor Day. And as far as I know, most universities don't.
Muslims suck. This "celebration" of Islam is preposterous. Wonder if they plan to celebrate with a beheading and stoning to death a teenage girl?
does your college get time off during easter?
I know for a fact my kid brother gets 7 days off for "passover/easter recess"
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does your college get time off during easter?
I know for a fact my kid brother gets 7 days off for "passover/easter recess"
No. And I'm pretty sure most schools around me don't. My buddy's Christian university gets 5 days off, though.
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No. And I'm pretty sure most schools around me don't. My buddy's Christian university gets 5 days off, though.
interesting. In ny, public schools gets a week off.
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Easter is not a legal US Holiday: http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/FEDHOL/2009.asp
Schools have all kinds of different "breaks".
When I grew up in TX there was a break for deer hunting and when I came to CA there was a break for skiing, spring break, winter break, etc..
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LOL @ liberal ass hawaii.
you bunch of clinton voters are reaping what you sowed.
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Some points...
Easter is not a recognized legal holiday... No one gets a day off.
Hanukkah is not recognized as a legal holiday... No one gets those days off.
Easter is a "legal" state holiday in Hawaii and probably other states too.
Edit: I meant Good Friday. Same difference though, since Easter is always on a Sunday, which isn't a normal work day for most people.
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I'm against all religions. Especially Islam.
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Does Hawaii celebrate Christian Day? Or Jewish Day? Maybe Hindu Day? Maybe the Muslim scum in that state should get bent.
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Does Hawaii celebrate Christian Day? Or Jewish Day? Maybe Hindu Day? Maybe the Muslim scum in that state should get bent.
Nope. None of those here.
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Nope. None of those here.
They fear muslims.
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We are not alone. . . .
New York City Council, Bloomberg at Odds Over Call for Muslim School Holidays
The New York City Council overwhelmingly passed a resolution Tuesday calling for two Muslim holidays to be added to the school calendar, despite mayoral objections.
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, July 01, 2009
The New York City Council is at odds with Mayor Michael Bloomberg over a resolution calling for the school system to observe two Muslim holidays.
The council overwhelmingly passed the resolution Tuesday, citing the city's growing Muslim population and the fact that the system observes comparable Jewish and Christian holidays.
But Bloomberg has spoken out against the measure, saying the school year will get too short if the calendar includes too many holidays.
Now it's unclear whether the proposal will become policy, as the council does not have direct authority over the school year -- yet Bloomberg just relinquished control of the school system to a newly appointed board of education.
"Right now the degree of control the mayor has over the education system is completely unclear," said Councilman G. Oliver Koppell, the only council member to vote against the resolution Tuesday.
Bloomberg could still block the measure. Though the city just reappointed its board of education, the state Senate could take action soon to hand Bloomberg back the reins.
Bloomberg predicted as much Wednesday, saying the new board would "serve until Albany rectifies its inaction and reauthorizes mayoral control."
And the new city school board is considered to be largely aligned with Bloomberg anyway.
Koppell, who sides with Bloomberg, said he's concerned that the calendar change would only benefit a relatively small fraction of the student body at the expense of the school year.
"If we accommodate every group's wishes to have off on religious days, we'll have a huge number of days on which kids are off from school," he said. "This is a slippery slope which we'll be going down. ... In my view, the school year's too short as it is."
But advocates are trying to ensure the two holidays get added to the calendar one way or another.
The resolution takes a two-track approach. It calls both for the New York City Department of Education to add on the holidays and for the state legislature to pass legislation amending education law so that the holidays are recognized in New York City schools.
According to a council aide, the state action would trump any action by the city.
The council, in its resolution, cited statistics from the Coalition for Muslim School Holidays showing about 12 percent of New York City public school students are Muslim.
The addition of the holidays to the school year would not be unprecedented. Several New Jersey cities, as well as Dearborn, Mich., have done the same.
The resolution said that adding those holidays "would serve as an important embodiment of ... tolerance and acceptance."
The holidays are Eid Ul-Fitr, which marks the end of Ramadan, and Eid Ul-Adha, which celebrates the willingness of Ibrahim -- known as Abraham to Christians and Jews -- to sacrifice his son. It is the most important Islamic holiday.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/01/new-york-city-council-bloomberg-odds-muslim-school-holidays/?test=latestnews
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I think it's a waste of time and energy to have any kind of "day" honoring a religion.
So are Christian, Buddhists, Hindu, etc... days next?
There are roads that need to be repaired there, education programs being canceled, people not getting the medical care they need, etc. and some group of dip sticks decides to spend money to enact "Islam day"
They should be taken out back and slapped.
Remember OzmO....
If you do it in the name of religion, you can do just about anything...
Especially if it is non-Christian...
Judiasm and Islam can get away with some amazing shit that mear mortal heathans like us cannot...