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Hulkster keeps arguing the pic to the left is shopped.
It clearly isn't.
Look at the quads. Same shape. Only bigger. Obviously simply physique improvements, not PS.
(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09194/twwtggyg35q53y53qyq353q5y493.jpg)
TEAM DORIAN YATES. BRITISH STEEL OF BIRMINGHAM.
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the hips are cropped so the legs look bigger...
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I don't think his hips are cropped - he is further away from the camera in the left pic.
Speaking of Dorian, check out these shots. He is destroying Kevin and Nasser in this back shot...
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Hulkster keeps arguing the pic to the left is shopped.
It clearly isn't.
Look at the quads. Same shape. Only bigger. Obviously simply physique improvements, not PS.
(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09194/twwtggyg35q53y53qyq353q5y493.jpg)
TEAM DORIAN YATES. BRITISH STEEL OF BIRMINGHAM.
"same shape only bigger"? This is the problem, when did his quads ever look that big onstage? Those b/w 93 pics are his biggest/best ever, so how could he suddenly have massive quads years after his squatting days in a studio pic which has legs like he never had onstage, or even like anything from the 93 pics???
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When was the alleged photoshopped pic taken? If Horton said it wasn't photoshopped and he took the picture, then it isn't photoshopped.
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sometimes writers will say pics were edited but not changed.
this opens up a lot of photoshopping tricks that make the athlete look better but the photographer considers true athlete representations.
Let's face it, these guys look way better on mag covers than they ever do onstage.
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I dont know...I am THE BIGGEST DORAIN YATES fan there is. However,
there is something about how his hips get so narrow, that his quads look cartoonish.
Just doesnt look right.
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those are some big ass calves
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def shopped
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Hulkster keeps arguing the pic to the left is shopped.
It clearly isn't.
Look at the quads. Same shape. Only bigger. Obviously simply physique improvements, not PS.
(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09194/twwtggyg35q53y53qyq353q5y493.jpg)
TEAM DORIAN YATES. BRITISH STEEL OF BIRMINGHAM.
dorian looks great in both shots but you cant say he is bigger in the left pic., only better lighting and lower BF.. his best 2 years for sure..
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Something does look weird with his left quad insertion in the Horton shot - the angle it is totally different. His quads look similar, but maybe they did narrow his hips. Stupid magazines.
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terrible physique, just terrible
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Yeah, terrible physique - idiot!
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Yeah, terrible physique - idiot!
he sucked
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doubt photoshop, maybe the waist was brought in.. but could be shadow concealing the edge of his waist and making it look like it ends before it does.. kind like the knee on the same side. legs are obviously untouched as is everything else
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Nice photoshop.
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Hulkster keeps arguing the pic to the left is shopped.
It clearly isn't.
Look at the quads. Same shape. Only bigger. Obviously simply physique improvements, not PS.
(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09194/twwtggyg35q53y53qyq353q5y493.jpg)
TEAM DORIAN YATES. BRITISH STEEL OF BIRMINGHAM.
Dude, there is a sharp indentation in his hips(in the one on the left and not on the right), right where the quad starts sweeping. Looks touched up to me, not major morphing or anything, but touched up.
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When was the alleged photoshopped pic taken? If Horton said it wasn't photoshopped and he took the picture, then it isn't photoshopped.
Well it doesn't have to be shopped to have slightly manipulated shading and/or airbrushing or whatever. It's pretty rare for a studio pic like that not to have something done to it, even if it's not actually 'morphed'.
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He's pushing in his waist with his hands, thats something everyone should do with a front lat spread. His feet are also turned out, which accentuates the vastus lateralis. I don't believe this is photoshopped. Perhaps they played with the contrast and shading to make the pic more impressive.
Damn, Dorian was amazing. Those pics from 1993 were insane.
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He's pushing in his waist with his hands, thats something everyone should do with a front lat spread. His feet are also turned out, which accentuates the vastus lateralis. I don't believe this is photoshopped. Perhaps they played with the contrast and shading to make the pic more impressive.
Damn, Dorian was amazing. Those pics from 1993 were insane.
TRUE,TRUE,AND TRUE.
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I forgotten how incredible Yates was!
id like to see the "full-set" of those black and white "blk-socks" pics one more time
(i remember when Flex magazine first ran them.....i was like "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!")
blown away
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exactly what I woulda said. spot on
He's pushing in his waist with his hands, thats something everyone should do with a front lat spread. His feet are also turned out, which accentuates the vastus lateralis. I don't believe this is photoshopped. Perhaps they played with the contrast and shading to make the pic more impressive.
Damn, Dorian was amazing. Those pics from 1993 were insane.
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He's pushing in his waist with his hands, thats something everyone should do with a front lat spread. His feet are also turned out, which accentuates the vastus lateralis. I don't believe this is photoshopped. Perhaps they played with the contrast and shading to make the pic more impressive.
Damn, Dorian was amazing. Those pics from 1993 were insane.
Duh, duh and duh. Of course these are ways of accentuating the pose. He always did these things on stage, which is why it's weird that in no other shots in his career does the side of his right quad explode outwards like Muhhamed Mustaffa or Jay Cutler!
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Dude, there is a sharp indentation in his hips(in the one on the left and not on the right), right where the quad starts sweeping. Looks touched up to me, not major morphing or anything, but touched up.
not shopped that pose is meant to push you waste in plus if you look he does have that sharp indention on the right pic at the left leg he is just holding water in the right pic i remeber reading that he dried out too much that year and he lost size in just a couple of days
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There is no way his quads are shopped. Look closely, the shape and size are nearly identical. The difference is the lighting/coloring of the photos. The only disparity I see is the angle of the quad insertion of his left leg. However, that is probably just a combo of being leaner and a different angle.
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I forgotten how incredible Yates was!
id like to see the "full-set" of those black and white "blk-socks" pics one more time
(i remember when Flex magazine first ran them.....i was like "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!")
blown away
Those shots were incredible. I can't find the whole set, but here are a few more. There is a Youtube clip somewhere of the photo session that's pretty cool too. I posted the color back shot because it is SCARY CRAZY! Hail the King!
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Duh, duh and duh. Of course these are ways of accentuating the pose. He always did these things on stage, which is why it's weird that in no other shots in his career does the side of his right quad explode outwards like Muhhamed Mustaffa or Jay Cutler!
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if Kevin says he didn't photoshop the pic, then he didn't photoshop the pic. Kevin is one of the best photographers out there and there is no reason to doubt him.
but that doesn't mean that someone else didn't shop it before it was posted on bb.com...
those hips/quad sweep are.. well...I think we can all make up our own minds..
I know the nuthuggers love this shot, but the fact is, ronnie 99 still beats the shot anyway - his quad sweep and hip region had that flare and tiny waist all the time back then
he doesn't need some 'never before seen pic 14 years later' to look like that 8)
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You just couldn't help yourself bringing Ronnie into another Dorian thread for comparison. Those shots of Ronnie look good - but even in your comparisons I give Dorian the nod, despite him being 3 weeks out and Ronnie being in the shape of his life.
These also compare well ;D
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You just couldn't help yourself bringing Ronnie into another Dorian thread for comparison. Those shots of Ronnie look good - but even in your comparisons I give Dorian the nod, despite him being 3 weeks out and Ronnie being in the shape of his life.
These also compare well ;D
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Ronnie has 25x the physique of Dorian at his best. Better mass...better shape...better genetics...just better.
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The boy looked exactly like these pics just before the 93 Olympia.
He was beyond massive. After I offered to kick his girl in we became fairly good friends and I still speak to him every 4 weeks or so. My son and his son are around the same age and study at Glasgow University. Looking back he probably could have killed me but I like to think I could have found a razor to slit his throat if he made an aggressive move on me.
He is a good guy for sure...
Jimmy.
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I believe dorian was 269 pounds in the 93 black and whites. probably the best he ever looked. they are fantastic shots.
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doubt photoshop, maybe the waist was brought in.. but could be shadow concealing the edge of his waist and making it look like it ends before it does.. kind like the knee on the same side. legs are obviously untouched as is everything else
Very cool photoshop there.
I can't tell if the 95 pic is photoshopped or not. Looking at it, I would say that there is something going on, but what I am not qualified enough to really make any type of guess.
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what doesn't make sense about the pic is not so much that his quads were that big with that kind of flare, because no doubt dorian at high bodyweights probably had quads that looked like that. there are guest posing pics of him with massive quads. not with that kind of flare though..
the problem is, that at those times, his waist/hip area was also massive, not trim and tiny like in the pic. its like his 91-92 waistline with his 300 pound pre contest quads on the same body.. ???
thats why the pic has caused such a stir.
hell, this is like the second or third thread about it, none of which have even been started by me.. I get singled out I guess because I am on the ronnie side of the endless dorian ronnie debate lol
but most of the comments are by others- who happen to think something is up, I guess.
its got getbiggers talking, thats for sure.
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if Kevin says he didn't photoshop the pic, then he didn't photoshop the pic. Kevin is one of the best photographers out there and there is no reason to doubt him.
but that doesn't mean that someone else didn't shop it before it was posted on bb.com...
those hips/quad sweep are.. well...I think we can all make up our own minds..
I know the nuthuggers love this shot, but the fact is, ronnie 99 still beats the shot anyway - his quad sweep and hip region had that flare and tiny waist all the time back then
he doesn't need some 'never before seen pic 14 years later' to look like that 8)
This has been addressed already the first time YOU claimed it was ' morphed ' and Kevin's reply after seeing the exact same picture YOU just posted was " If you'd presented it then I would suspect it had been but that is a scan from the original negative.
He seen the pic YOU keep claiming someone else tampered with and said it was untouched , if you keep claiming it is then you're claiming Horton seen it and knows it to be morphed yet is lying that it isn't.
Ronnie 99 isn't even close Dorian's front latspread is leaps & bounds better and the pic he's 283 pounds and would make Ronnie 99 look petite
the pic is real get over it , move on.
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still having trouble with the english language I see.. :-\
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" If you'd presented it then I would suspect it had been BUT THAT IS A SCAN FROM THE ORIGINAL NEGATIVE"
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still having trouble with the english language I see.. :-\
I know you're Canadian but that's no excuse ;)
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" If you'd presented it then I would suspect it had been BUT THAT IS A SCAN FROM THE ORIGINAL NEGATIVE"
end of story.
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who this man? :o :P
the clear victor of the truce thread. 8)
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the clear victor of the truce thread. 8)
yeah that's why you try and recreate the truce thread in every thread I'm in ::)
exactly why you used photoshopped pics , made up multiple quotes , and troll in every Dorian threads ;) and why you call Horton a liar and cry morphed when Yates pics blow Ronnie out of the water
you won biggest moron award that's it
Ronnie ended the truce thread by saying on multiple occasions he couldn't beat Dorian ;) I beat YOU using your own hero .
case closed.
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i talk man in photos not you dummy
Hulkster = owned lmao
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Anyone can see there is a difference in quad size from the '93 pic (apparent best ever) to the colour studio pic (Mustaffa style quad sweep. Anyone who has seen pics from various points in his career knows, if he is honest with himself, that his quads never looked like that, and it would be strage if the one time they looked so noticably bigger/more separated was in a photo shoot nobody even saw at the time. QUite clear to the impartial observer. Dorian was great enough, he didn't need these doctored pics.
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Anyone can see there is a difference in quad size from the '93 pic (apparent best ever) to the colour studio pic (Mustaffa style quad sweep. Anyone who has seen pics from various points in his career knows, if he is honest with himself, that his quads never looked like that, and it would be strage if the one time they looked so noticably bigger/more separated was in a photo shoot nobody even saw at the time. QUite clear to the impartial observer. Dorian was great enough, he didn't need these doctored pics.
The pics are not ' doctored ' if you have proof to the contrary feel free to post it until then , keep typing empty words ;)
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These pics could easily be touched up, and certainly look it given there are no ther pics of his quads ever looking like that in his whole career. If you have proof to the contrary feel free to post it.
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These pics could easily be touched up, and certainly look it given there are no ther pics of his quads ever looking like that in his whole career. If you have proof to the contrary feel free to post it.
Great response ::) YOU are claiming they are fake it's contingent on YOU to prove your position which you can't so you try and turn the tables ::)
you have to consider 1993 he was 269 pounds , that pic from 1995 he's 283 pounds , obviously his quads are going to be bigger ( duh ) come back under your real account and post ;)
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Great response ::) YOU are claiming they are fake it's contingent on YOU to prove your position which you can't so you try and turn the tables ::)
you have to consider 1993 he was 269 pounds , that pic from 1995 he's 283 pounds , obviously his quads are going to be bigger ( duh ) come back under your real account and post ;)
Whatever buddy, you're only kidding yourself. If they ever looked half that flared out to the sides at a competetion I wouldn't have bothered saying anything.
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Anyone can see there is a difference in quad size from the '93 pic (apparent best ever) to the colour studio pic (Mustaffa style quad sweep. Anyone who has seen pics from various points in his career knows, if he is honest with himself, that his quads never looked like that, and it would be strage if the one time they looked so noticably bigger/more separated was in a photo shoot nobody even saw at the time. QUite clear to the impartial observer. Dorian was great enough, he didn't need these doctored pics.
Did you guys forget that I posted this? His quads perfectly outline themselves from both the suspect picture and the reference picture people are using. The shadow makes his hip look smaller than it actually is in the suspect picture-you can see the same effect on his disappearing knee on the same side.
Real picture. Case closed.
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CASE
CLOSED
LUINITARI has provided the proof above. Picture is NOT SHOPPED. Only a fool would deny this.
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Hulkster keeps arguing the pic to the left is shopped.
It clearly isn't is.
(http://xs139.xs.to/xs139/09194/twwtggyg35q53y53qyq353q5y493.jpg)
Fixed 8)
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I don't think his hips are cropped - he is further away from the camera in the left pic.
Speaking of Dorian, check out these shots. He is destroying Kevin and Nasser in this back shot...
Dorian beat Kevin only in Back Thickness & calves that is all, Kevin take all the other body parts + smaller waist line + Condition + Symmetry & hardness ::)
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Dorian beat Kevin only in Back Thickness & calves that is all, Kevin take all the other body parts + smaller waist line + Condition + Symmetry & hardness ::)
Dorian beat Kevin in all areas of the judging criteria , keep clinging to who has better parts that doesn't win contests , it's who has the better mandatory pose that really counts.
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Dorian beat Kevin in all areas of the judging criteria , keep clinging to who has better parts that doesn't win contests , it's who has the better mandatory pose that really counts.
do you mean that dorian was better than levrone in the FDB even after he tore his left biceps??... no..
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do you mean that dorian was better than levrone in the FDB even after he tore his left biceps??... no..
Ummm yeah and surprise , surprise to find you in yet another Dorian Yates thread ::) you're beginning to troll as much as Hulkster
I'll explain how Dorian wins the front double biceps pose even with a torn bicep , because.......All Rounds are physique rounds , which means ALL aspects of the judging criteria are looked at in every single pose , so while Kevin can beat Dorian in part(s) of the criteria he doesn't beat him in ALL
judging criteria muscular bulk , density & dryness , balance & proportion , posing & presentation
does Kevin beat Dorian in the front double biceps pose in muscular bulk? NO
does Kevin beat Dorian in the front double biceps pose in density & dryness? NO
does Kevin beat Dorian in the front double biceps pose in balance & proportion? NO , even with the torn biceps . more to balance & proportion than one bicep shorter than the other , like leg length ( Kevin has shorter legs ) torso length ( Kevin has a longish torso ) proportion ( Kevin's calves aren't in proportion with his quads ) forearms in proportion with biceps/triceps ( Kevin's forearms are like his calves )
does Kevin beat Dorian in posing & presentation? NO but he's not as bad as a poser as Ronnie though
learn how contests are judged then you'll grasp why Levrone doesn't beat him in ANY pose
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Ummm yeah and surprise , surprise to find you in yet another Dorian Yates thread ::) you're beginning to troll as much as Hulkster
I'll explain how Dorian wins the front double biceps pose even with a torn bicep , because.......All Rounds are physique rounds , which means ALL aspects of the judging criteria are looked at in every single pose , so while Kevin can beat Dorian in part(s) of the criteria he doesn't beat him in ALL
judging criteria muscular bulk , density & dryness , balance & proportion , posing & presentation
does Kevin beat Dorian in the front double biceps pose in muscular bulk? NO
does Kevin beat Dorian in the front double biceps pose in density & dryness? NO
does Kevin beat Dorian in the front double biceps pose in balance & proportion? NO , even with the torn biceps . more to balance & proportion than one bicep shorter than the other , like leg length ( Kevin has shorter legs ) torso length ( Kevin has a longish torso ) proportion ( Kevin's calves aren't in proportion with his quads ) forearms in proportion with biceps/triceps ( Kevin's forearms are like his calves )
does Kevin beat Dorian in posing & presentation? NO but he's not as bad as a poser as Ronnie though
learn how contests are judged then you'll grasp why Levrone doesn't beat him in ANY pose
calm down!!.. are you sure kevin didnt beat your man in "any" pose?.. sure you mean the 7 mandatory poses.. you cant mean dorian was better in the MM for example!
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calm down!!.. are you sure kevin didnt beat your man in "any" pose?.. sure you mean the 7 mandatory poses.. you cant mean dorian was better in the MM for example!
You bitch is I don't give you a detailed explanation , you bitch when I do , what does that lead us to believe? ;) and yes all 8 mandatory poses even the most muscular , Kevin has advantages in that pose for sure but again ALL rounds are physique rounds , so Kevin is still down balance & proportion , density & dryness , and size even in the most muscular pose , Kevin beats Dorian in part(s) of this but not ALL of this and that's how contests are judged
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You bitch is I don't give you a detailed explanation , you bitch when I do , what does that lead us to believe? ;) and yes all 8 mandatory poses even the most muscular , Kevin has advantages in that pose for sure but again ALL rounds are physique rounds , so Kevin is still down balance & proportion , density & dryness , and size even in the most muscular pose , Kevin beats Dorian in part(s) of this but not ALL of this and that's how contests are judged
yess i agree with you like when nasser beat dorian at mr. o. 97 in the rear dp with his better hams, shoulders, arms although dorian's back was a little bit better :P
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yess i agree with you like when nasser beat dorian at mr. o. 97 in the rear dp with his better hams, shoulders, arms although dorian's back was a little bit better :P
Ha ha ha Nasser never beat Dorian in ANY back pose ever.
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Ha ha ha Nasser never beat Dorian in ANY back pose ever.
sure i was just using your "parts" theory!! :-\
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sure i was just using your "parts" theory!! :-\
Lets say he did beat Dorian in 1997 that means what? he beat a career worse Dorian lol that my friend is a hollow victory because at his best Nasser was no where near Dorian and he couldn't close the deal when Dorian was at his worse
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do you mean that dorian was better than levrone in the FDB even after he tore his left biceps??... no..
Watch this video....Dorian beats Kevin in EVERY pose. And yes, this is post-bicep tear.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=ODX1SbXhM53YqAPOoZnYAg&q=mr+olympia+1995
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Watch this video....Dorian beats Kevin in EVERY pose. And yes, this is post-bicep tear.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=ODX1SbXhM53YqAPOoZnYAg&q=mr+olympia+1995
man you dont have to send me any link, i already have on my laptop all mr. olympia contests between the 2 guys (except 1996).. i agree that dorian was better at his best (it was not even close) but yes kevin was better in some few poses!!..
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Kev wins in the MM poses, but that's it in 1995. I was surprised to see that Dorian owns he and Ray in the fdb in 95
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Kev wins in the MM poses, but that's it in 1995. I was surprised to see that Dorian owns he and Ray in the fdb in 95
for me Kevin looked better in the FDB pose after dorian torn his biceps.. a torn muscle takes a lot from the over all thing.. but yes before he torn his left biceps dorian was better in this pose.. i even made a thread before saying that dorian's biceps were better than kevin's!!..
it goes without saying the nasser beats them clearly in this pose :P