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I Heart Jesse! I would like to see him become a viable candidate in the near future!
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Good Stuff
I doubt he'll ever be a viable candidate on the national level (for a bunch of reasons) but I like everything he said on this clip
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BOOOOOOOOOM!!!! :) GOOD STUFF.
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He wont be ever be a legitimate candidate even if he has some good ideas, its his fault. if he wanted to run again he knows he would have to be less abrasive and more tactful while keeping his message. his desire to not run allows him to be so much more compelling imo.
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he won easily in minn.
He needs the right advisors around him and not pull a ron paul
wonder why he didnt run for senate
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he's got a TON of credibility with young americans, and those not so young.
Seriously, he's not PC by any means, but if you had to ask Mccain, Obama, and Ventura to tell you the truth.. which man's word would most likely be accurate?
Curious...
if Ventura ran for president one day, how many here would vote for him?
how many would donate/campaign for him?
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A Political Solution?
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/?p=125 (http://www.outlawjournalism.com/?p=125)
The first thing to understand is that the mass media controls virtually every aspect of Western society, and thus determines the outcome of elections. Neither the television, nor the AM radio is ever going to present an alternative candidate as a viable option.
Though Ron Paul had a great deal of support among the educated segments of the population and was even given a surprising amount of face-time by the MSM, he was ridiculed and declared a joke by all of the pundits, and thus the mass man was convinced that even if they sympathized with his positions, it would be a waste of time to support him, and so they moved on to more “realistic” options.
The second major reason why there can never be a political solution to the problems we face is that if a politician who genuinely wished to do right by the people were ever elected to a significant position of power, he would either be turned, or assassinated. We saw with President John F. Kennedy, and more recently with Senator Paul Wellstone that the real rulers of the world have no problem assassinating American politicians who refuse to play ball.
Another somewhat secondary point is that no matter who the people vote for, the establishment will put whoever they want in office. George Bush actually lost two elections. Even though Gore and Kerry were both shill candidates who would not have done anything differently, the powers that be had their minds set on Bush, and simply allowed him to steal two consecutive elections.
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A Political Solution?
http://www.outlawjournalism.com/?p=125 (http://www.outlawjournalism.com/?p=125)
you never know....If ventura got, hypothetically "off'ed" while running for high office, Millions would instantly uprise(BB not being one of them).
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you never know....If ventura got, hypothetically "off'ed" while running for high office, Millions would instantly uprise(BB not being one of them).
hahaha @ the BB comment :D
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he's got a TON of credibility with young americans, and those not so young.
Seriously, he's not PC by any means, but if you had to ask Mccain, Obama, and Ventura to tell you the truth.. which man's word would most likely be accurate?
Curious...
if Ventura ran for president one day, how many here would vote for him?
how many would donate/campaign for him?
i would but not the majority, he's too radical...
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he's got a TON of credibility with young americans, and those not so young.
Seriously, he's not PC by any means, but if you had to ask Mccain, Obama, and Ventura to tell you the truth.. which man's word would most likely be accurate?
Curious...
if Ventura ran for president one day, how many here would vote for him?
how many would donate/campaign for him?
Count me in. I love Jesse.
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he's got a TON of credibility with young americans, and those not so young.
Seriously, he's not PC by any means, but if you had to ask Mccain, Obama, and Ventura to tell you the truth.. which man's word would most likely be accurate?
Curious...
if Ventura ran for president one day, how many here would vote for him?
how many would donate/campaign for him?
I'm pretty sure I would but I'll know for sure if HR 875 passes. I'll probably never vote dem again.
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I'm pretty sure I would but I'll know for sure if HR 875 passes. I'll probably never vote dem again.
you have yet to update us on said bill
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I'm pretty sure I would but I'll know for sure if HR 875 passes. I'll probably never vote dem again.
uh, What has you frightened over the food safety modernization act (HR 875)? ???
H.R. 875: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009
To establish the Food Safety Administration within the Department of Health and Human Services to protect the public health by preventing food-borne illness, ensuring the safety of food, improving research on contaminants leading to food-borne illness, and improving security of food from intentional contamination, and for other purposes.
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uh, What has you frightened over the food safety modernization act (HR 875)? ???
H.R. 875: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009
To establish the Food Safety Administration within the Department of Health and Human Services to protect the public health by preventing food-borne illness, ensuring the safety of food, improving research on contaminants leading to food-borne illness, and improving security of food from intentional contamination, and for other purposes.
what's the point, you'll just tell me I'm wrong. I've posted everything I feel I need to say on the topic. Now either people will or won't agree. For me it's a tipping point and I won't vote for the party that passes it.
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TA ,why do you agree with everything Obama does? you question nothing.
(http://ocw.usu.edu/University_Extension/sheep-and-lambing-management/sheep.jpg)
to keep it on topic, and with my usual cynicism. Ventura is a distraction :D
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you have yet to update us on said bill
because there are no updates. I checked last week and everything was still the same. One more cosponsor.
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TA ,why do you agree with everything Obama does? you question nothing.
to keep it on topic, and with my usual cynicism. Ventura is a distraction :D
I like a lot of what TA says but he does seem to be a loyalist.
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what's the point, you'll just tell me I'm wrong. I've posted everything I feel I need to say on the topic. Now either people will or won't agree. For me it's a tipping point and I won't vote for the party that passes it.
Forgive me for not knowing why you are frightened by a bill that seeks to prevent disease and contamination in our food supply. I would like to know your reasons and what specifically is troubling you. Can you post a summation?
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I Heart Jesse! I would like to see him become a viable candidate in the near future!
Wow...gotta love a man who is not afraid to speak his mind.
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I like a lot of what TA says but he does seem to be a loyalist.
way too loyal.
I bet he would sniff obama's jock strap.
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I'm pretty sure I would but I'll know for sure if HR 875 passes. I'll probably never vote dem again.
what's your gripe with the particulars of the bill?
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because there are no updates. I checked last week and everything was still the same. One more cosponsor.
I disagree with Obama on a number of things.
For instance, I disagree with him extending President Bush`s faith based initiative program. I disagree with him that Insurance Companies should exist alongside a Public Option for Universal Healthcare. I disagree with him spending more money than Bush in defense. I disagree with Obama in sending additional troops to Afghanistan.
So I do disagree with Obama on quite a number of things, but the Pros certainly outweigh the Cons and Obama has the ability to adapt and use only Facts to guide him. Not Jesus. (haha had to throw that in)
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I bumped the thread on this so we don't derail this one.
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I bumped the thread on this so we don't derail this one.
I responded to your conspiracy theory wackjob fears regarding HR 875. :)
This one is the target of A WHOLE LOT of Chain Emails. Hilarious.
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True or False? Someone help me out with this: Jesse Loves Democrats. Is that True? Or False?
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True or False? Someone help me out with this: Jesse Loves Democrats. Is that True? Or False?
Jesse transcends parties as he belongs to neither. He is more in line with the Democrats, but that is not saying very much since the Republicans are so backwards, EVERYONE is more in line with the Democratic party these days.
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Jesse transcends parties as he belongs to neither. He is more in line with the Democrats, but that is not saying very much since the Republicans are so backwards, EVERYONE is more in line with the Democratic party these days.
Uhmm no. Jesse is a libertarian and supports small governement and state sovereignty, seriously, where do you come up with this stuff?
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hahahaha,,, TA thinks Jesse is more in line with the dems lol... I knew he would fall on that lololol....
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hahahaha,,, TA thinks Jesse is more in line with the dems lol... I knew he would fall on that lololol....
TA has a good physique and that is REALLY about it...
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Uhmm no. Jesse is a libertarian and supports small governement and state sovereignty, seriously, where do you come up with this stuff?
I think TA is probably quite intelligent, but he is a noob to politics and how things work. He probably got engaged in this last election for the first time in his life. No biggie, we were all there at one point. I think what TA fails to see is the slight of hand that goes on in politics. He's presently buying into the party image instead of examining the motive, beneficiaries and future ramifications of each act of interest.
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He is more in line with the Democrats, but that is not saying very much since the Republicans are so backwards, EVERYONE is more in line with the Democratic party these days.
Dont worry. That will change in 2-4 years.
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Uhmm no. Jesse is a libertarian and supports small governement and state sovereignty, seriously, where do you come up with this stuff?
Um,
The candidate I did some work for last year, Mike Gravel, was a Democrat when he was debating Hillary and Barack and then when thrown from the Debates, switched to the Libertarian party while keeping his entire platform.
The same is true with Jesse. Do you know ANYTHING about Jesse and how he views The Patriot Act, Religion in Politics, keeping the Mexican/American border FULLY open? Amnesty for illegals? Abortion. Opposition to the Death Penalty.
Far more in line with the Democratic Party than the Republicans. As I said earlier he is neither, but he has FAR MORE in common with the Democrats than Republicans.
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I think TA is probably quite intelligent, but he is a noob to politics and how things work. He probably got engaged in this last election for the first time in his life. No biggie, we were all there at one point. I think what TA fails to see is the slight of hand that goes on in politics. He's presently buying into the party image instead of examining the motive, beneficiaries and future ramifications of each act of interest.
I worked as a Volunteer for Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.
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I think TA is probably quite intelligent, but he is a noob to politics and how things work. He probably got engaged in this last election for the first time in his life. No biggie, we were all there at one point. I think what TA fails to see is the slight of hand that goes on in politics. He's presently buying into the party image instead of examining the motive, beneficiaries and future ramifications of each act of interest.
Do you have any subscriptions to any political magazines or have read any great Political books or know any History? Just curious as to what you have read.
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Do you have any subscriptions to any political magazines or have read any great Political books or know any History? Just curious as to what you have read.
absolutely nothing, I'm getting everything I say from the National Enquirer... ::)
wow I set you off with that... double post reply lol
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I still have my old EMAIL address ;D:
A R. Abeles
Chief Biological Science Advisor
Evolution@Gravel2008.us
Mike Gravel for President 2008
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Jesse is one of those people that cant think straight. He is a member of a party called the INDEPENDENT party? What??? What is the point of the independent party? Can someone please tell me? Do they want to live in some fantasy universe where everyone will agree with them? Pick a party and join it. I have no problem with people who wont identify themselves as either Republican or Democrat. They may not have decided who they agree most with and that is fine. But dont create a different party as if it some representation of something other than, "Both parties suck!!"
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I still have my old EMAIL address ;D:
A R. Abeles
Chief Biological Science Advisor
Evolution@Gravel2008.us
Mike Gravel for President 2008
WTF? Lay off the cheesyburgers and eat some real food jackass... Then maybe you will post something we give a rats ass about ::)
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hahahaha, I still have my old e-mail address... wooooo see I'm so special :D... You're a fucking noob and if you're not, your nothing but a future pundit. Like we need more of those ::)
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Best President you NEVER had.
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TA, did he touch you inappropriately?
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TA, did he touch you inappropriately?
I thought you were better than this. I disagree with your Conspiracy Theory and you resort to typical attacks.
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I thought you were better than this. I disagree with your Conspiracy Theory and you resort to typical attacks.
you calling it a conspiracy theory is worse than anything I've done. Look you jackass litte fuck. I wasn't even interested in replying to you on that because I knew how you would react. then you came in saying you were not bias and sided against Obama suggesting that you were open to at least listening and then what did you do? You wasted my time you little fucking C UNT. You replied to that thread so fucking fast there is no way you actually reviewed the material. Did you even have an origional thought????? fuck no you lousy fucking homo, all you did was search google copy and past the first thing you found... So fuck you fag.
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Jesse a democrat? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Look who is calling somebody delusional.
TA, you need to take a look at the Democrats ACTIONS. They speak much louder about their agenda more than their campaign rhetoric. You are a party liner.
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I Heart Jesse! I would like to see him become a viable candidate in the near future!
'nuff said!
What a piece of human garbage the world has in Dick Chaney. An arrogant, treasonous, lying, coward. If one of those multiple heart attacks finished him off, not too many would have missed him.
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Preach Benny! Cheney is truly a coward and I'm so glad that Ventura said it on national TV.
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LMAO Hugo. you made this thread hilarious ;D ;D
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Jesse on the view going head to head against Hasselback:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/18/ventura-and-hasselbeck-de_n_204774.html
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Jesse on the view going head to head against Hasselback:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/18/ventura-and-hasselbeck-de_n_204774.html
wow, that is one seriously stupid bitch. She actually asked if Jesse would seek the prosecution of Obama for the killing of pirates if he's going to go after all the people responsible for torture. Honestly, WTF LOL...
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Jesse did do a great job in that interview.
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Jesse did do a great job in that interview.
Jesse and I have the same opinion on Torture. A week or so ago you were criticizing my opinion on the whole torture issue. Now you are liking what you are seeing from Jesse.
What inspired your epiphany in seeing the issue our way?
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Jesse and I have the same opinion on Torture. A week or so ago you were criticizing my opinion on the whole torture issue. Now you are liking what you are seeing from Jesse.
What inspired your epiphany in seeing the issue our way?
He said good job not good opinion, Jesse had a good performance and even if you don't agree with his views you can see the charisma he have by that interview.
I think that Jesse is going overboard with his views of torture and is probably taking it too personally, he seemed quite emotional when he spoke of his experience.
I wonder how emotional he will be when a Gito prisoner will be released with out any info extorted from him because the investigators couldn't put any form of leverage on him...I mean holding them is wrong...torturing is wrong...looking at them funny is wrong but they can blow up soldiers,citizens (in the US or other countries),buildings and more because that's right. ::)
If your enemy is willing to kill himself to hurt you and you're not willing to harm him it's only a matter of time before you will die.
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wow, that is one seriously stupid bitch. She actually asked if Jesse would seek the prosecution of Obama for the killing of pirates if he's going to go after all the people responsible for torture. Honestly, WTF LOL...
I'm not one who advocates viiolence against women, ...but someone seriously needs to bitchslap some sense into that woman. >:(
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True or False? Someone help me out with this: Jesse Loves Democrats. Is that True? Or False?
False. He just thinks the Dems are the lesser of two evils.
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If your enemy is willing to kill himself to hurt you and you're not willing to harm him it's only a matter of time before you will die.
I think it's paramount that you first identify your enemy. That wasn't done with the guys in Gitmo or AbuGhraib.
They were indiscriminately roundedup wholesale and in the case of many Afghans sold to the US. When you take what is for all intents & purposes, a boatload of slaves, captured, bought, and paid for, and start torturing them, ...you radicalize a shitload of people both in and out of custody.
I still would derive a guilty pleasure from seeing Cheney waterboarded tho. Does that make me a bad person? :'(
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False. He just thinks the Dems are the lesser of two evils.
unless I'm wrong he thinks they're both evil, two sides of the same coin. Sure, he thinks Bush is the worst administration in his lifetime but who doesn't?
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unless I'm wrong he thinks they're both evil, two sides of the same coin. Sure, he thinks Bush is the worst administration in his lifetime but who doesn't?
Ya, he flat out stated it on Larry King one night. He doesn't like either party, but of the 3 contenders who were going up for President, he stated he thought Obama was the least evil of them (referring to McCain & Clinton)
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Jesse and I have the same opinion on Torture. A week or so ago you were criticizing my opinion on the whole torture issue. Now you are liking what you are seeing from Jesse.
What inspired your epiphany in seeing the issue our way?
On other issues.
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unless I'm wrong he thinks they're both evil, two sides of the same coin. Sure, he thinks Bush is the worst administration in his lifetime but who doesn't?
Lots of people don't Hugo...