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Title: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2009, 08:22:07 PM
The man stood all of 5'2" or 5'3" and weighed between 188-198 in competition. How was he beating out SOOOO many top guys. I never thought he looked that great. sure, he had SICK legs and cool abs, but the rest of him never did anything for me. What do you guys think? I think guys like Danny Padilla and Lee Priest were far better than MOMO.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2009, 08:23:01 PM
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Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2009, 08:23:39 PM
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Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: polychronopolous on May 13, 2009, 08:25:46 PM
The man stood all of 5'2" or 5'3" and weighed between 188-198 in competition. How was he beating out SOOOO many top guys. I never thought he looked that great. sure, he had SICK legs and cool abs, but the rest of him never did anything for me. What do you guys think? I think guys like Danny Padilla and Lee Priest were far better than MOMO.



It never "did" anything for you?

Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2009, 08:34:42 PM


It never "did" anything for you?



Meaning, I never saw the WOW factor that he was notorious for? I saw a small guy with a lot of muscle. Guys like Belknap, Priest, Padilla, Ray, ALL that that WOW factor. Benaziza and Makkaway didn't have it imo.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: michael arvilla on May 13, 2009, 08:41:32 PM
Looks pretty damm good in those pictures u posted
(also saw Momo beat Dorian in person In NYC at The Beacon THeatre)

id have to say no.................he wasn't overated imo
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 13, 2009, 08:44:04 PM
Looks pretty damm good in those pictures u posted
(also saw Momo beat Dorian in person In NYC at The Beacon THeatre)

id have to say no.................he wasn't overated imo

Are you referring to the 1990 competition where Momo took 1st, Dorian 2nd and Padilla 3rd? Was Momo really that much better than the rest?
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Tamer Razor on May 13, 2009, 08:45:35 PM
Momo....one of the Greats .......No doubt  8)
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Camel Jockey on May 13, 2009, 08:58:50 PM
He was wayyy better than Lee Priest. Post pictures of Lee with those quads, full chest and conditioning, you can't cuz there aren't any to match what you posted of Momo's
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: CT_Muscle on May 13, 2009, 09:11:20 PM
overrated! do you have eyes?  ::)
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 13, 2009, 09:13:14 PM
Yes, he was over rated, the same way Lee Priest was.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: HTexan on May 13, 2009, 09:24:12 PM
momo>lee, both overrated
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: dyslexic on May 13, 2009, 10:36:05 PM
I don't know that Lee has ever been that shredded...
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 13, 2009, 11:36:08 PM
Meaning, I never saw the WOW factor that he was notorious for? I saw a small guy with a lot of muscle. Guys like Belknap, Priest, Padilla, Ray, ALL that that WOW factor. Benaziza and Makkaway didn't have it imo.

because both were arabs??
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 13, 2009, 11:37:30 PM
The man stood all of 5'2" or 5'3" and weighed between 188-198 in competition. How was he beating out SOOOO many top guys. I never thought he looked that great. sure, he had SICK legs and cool abs, but the rest of him never did anything for me. What do you guys think? I think guys like Danny Padilla and Lee Priest were far better than MOMO.

it's very strange you didnt mention his back!!.. the guy had one of the best backs ever!!.. in my opinion he only weal part was he calves..
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: flapjack on May 14, 2009, 12:07:17 AM
Truely a great bodybuilder with sick genetics. His conditioning was impecable, but he died for it.

Over rated, no.

He had a great physique that most here would kill for.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Figo on May 14, 2009, 01:52:42 AM
Momo was great!

1st short guy to pack on serious mass on such a small frame. Still had more in him, imo.

Momo's road to turning pro was 1 contest. He entered the World Champs in his competing debut, and won the lightweight division. I think he made the team due to someone pulling out last minute, and his undoubted potential.

1990, when he took the NOC beating a new pro Yates, as Mike said he was unbelievable. Definitely not underrated!

1987

World Amateur Championships - IFBB, LightWeight, 1st


1988

Grand Prix France - IFBB, 8th
Olympia - IFBB, 11th


1989

Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix France - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Spain (2) - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Sweden - IFBB, 5th
Olympia - IFBB, 5th


1990

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix France - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, Winner
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner


1991

Arnold Classic - IFBB, 11th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 9th


1992

Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 5th
Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 7th




Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: seste on May 14, 2009, 02:53:15 AM
Remember,this video above is serval years before he died

Not overrated in my opinion,a guy that packed on too much muscle on such a small frame.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: The_Hammer on May 14, 2009, 03:21:17 AM
Fuckin' bullshit that this guy is overrated!

I've barely seen pictures of this guy, but from the ones posted on this thread he's got an incredibly complete physique.  His back looks insane!
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: webcake on May 14, 2009, 03:23:48 AM
P.I.P
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Meso_z on May 14, 2009, 03:25:44 AM
His back dominated not only Dorians back but also his mind so deep he trained his back like a maniac to match him (momo). fact.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 14, 2009, 03:31:35 AM
His back dominated not only Dorians back but also his mind so deep he trained his back like a maniac to match him (momo). fact.

QFT
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 14, 2009, 03:34:41 AM
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Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: jwb on May 14, 2009, 03:41:16 AM
the bitch tits and the stomach bloating towards the end of his life weren't great features but the guy had insane bodyparts and conditioning.

only person ever to win a mr universe title in his FIRST contest!
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: io856 on May 14, 2009, 03:47:57 AM
the guy was fuccking incredible

I mean he beat DORIAN YATES !
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Meso_z on May 14, 2009, 04:23:16 AM
All the guys back then had great posing too not that these clowns today who shake their ass with some cheap rnb songs.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: honest on May 14, 2009, 04:27:49 AM
Guy was a beast, a short guy with width through the back. No long torso like Priest and short lats. The guy only lacked a little height and calves 2 to 3 inches taller and i think he could have won an Olympia he was that good, seemed to just lose a little in the line up as he was quite short, but standing on his own his density was Yates like and also possessed overall hardness throughout all body parts something a lot of guys couldn't match, he was a standout in the ifbb worlds amateurs as well.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Figo on May 14, 2009, 04:28:13 AM
Remember,this video above is serval years before he died

Not overrated in my opinion,a guy that packed on too much muscle on such a small frame.

Yes, early video.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Figo on May 14, 2009, 04:29:56 AM
Guy was a beast, a short guy with width through the back. No long torso like Priest and short lats. The guy only lacked a little height and calves 2 to 3 inches taller and i think he could have won an Olympia he was that good, seemed to just lose a little in the line up as he was quite short, but standing on his own his density was Yates like and also possessed overall hardness throughout all body parts something a lot of guys couldn't match, he was a standout in the ifbb worlds amateurs as well.

Much like his friend Steve Brisbois, at 5'3" you cant really compare with the monsters. As you said, gets lost in line up.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: michael arvilla on May 14, 2009, 05:11:07 AM
Are you referring to the 1990 competition where Momo took 1st, Dorian 2nd and Padilla 3rd? Was Momo really that much better than the rest?

1990's Night Of THe Champions............... ....and yes MOMO looked incredible that night
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: hipolito mejia on May 14, 2009, 05:12:21 AM
Overrated?  are you crazy??

Thats a complete physique right there........


Dexter has flaws and won the O!!!
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: seste on May 14, 2009, 05:26:36 AM
QFT

Sherief,what year is those pictures from?
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: The Showstoppa on May 14, 2009, 05:30:54 AM
5-2 and 5-3 bodybuilders.... ::)






 ;D
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Royalty on May 14, 2009, 05:53:08 AM
His rectus femoris is crazy in this pic!  Check his left thigh. His Vastus medialis is owning his knee cap.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=280540.0;attach=320517;image)
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 14, 2009, 06:20:15 AM
Sherief,what year is those pictures from?

1992 mr. olympia my friend..
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 14, 2009, 06:34:16 AM
If Momo was 5'11", would he have been better than Nasser El Sonbaty?
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Figo on May 14, 2009, 06:50:28 AM
If Momo was 5'11", would he have been better than Nasser El Sonbaty?

Sherief...?
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Grape Ape on May 14, 2009, 06:54:34 AM
If Momo was 5'11", would he have been better than Nasser El Sonbaty?

No, 5'11", 189 would be too skinny.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 14, 2009, 07:21:10 AM
No, 5'11", 189 would be too skinny.

I hope you're joking. If Momo was 5'11", you could have added 80-90 pounds to his physique, where he would have hovered around the 270-280 mark in competition (NASSER'S BEST bodyweight).

WHO would have been the WINNER?
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Da Freak on May 14, 2009, 07:44:49 AM
momo = legend
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: bigdumbbell on May 14, 2009, 07:47:00 AM
yes 
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: RZA on May 14, 2009, 07:58:10 AM
Guy was a beast, a short guy with width through the back. No long torso like Priest and short lats. The guy only lacked a little height and calves 2 to 3 inches taller and i think he could have won an Olympia he was that good, seemed to just lose a little in the line up as he was quite short, but standing on his own his density was Yates like and also possessed overall hardness throughout all body parts something a lot of guys couldn't match, he was a standout in the ifbb worlds amateurs as well.

Very good post. The thing is that he was really the first mass monster considering his height, even a bit before Yates, but getting in condition was very demanding like for most mass monsters, specially once Yates really hit the scene with his insane mass/conditioning combo which set a new standard. That litterally killed Momo. That little extra hardness killed him. But the guy was  really impressive and certainly not overrated.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Grape Ape on May 14, 2009, 07:59:18 AM
I hope you're joking. If Momo was 5'11", you could have added 80-90 pounds to his physique, where he would have hovered around the 270-280 mark in competition (NASSER'S BEST bodyweight).

WHO would have been the WINNER?

Of course I was.

Who knows who would win?  Would Momo keep the same proportions?  Conditioning?   I'm pretty sure if you took any small BB and photoshopped up to increase their anticipated weight increase, they'd all look better than the guys who are already there.

In other words, I don't think you can really answer the question.  
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: njflex on May 14, 2009, 08:54:02 AM
his demise was quite sad and the way it happened.was a major threat every show those yrs.he would still be as densely packed with muscle for his height with todays group.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Figo on May 14, 2009, 08:57:36 AM
his demise was quite sad and the way it happened.

Seriously fucked up. RIP
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 14, 2009, 10:18:49 AM
Sherief...?

yes because of his tremendous back ;).. nasser's only weak point was his back and if benaziza was the same height as nasser his only weak point would have been his calves..  sure the back is more important than the calves!!..

but since “if” is not reality and benaziza was not the same height as Nasser so Nasser can be considered a better bb :P
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 14, 2009, 10:21:41 AM
Of course I was.

Who knows who would win?  Would Momo keep the same proportions?  Conditioning?   I'm pretty sure if you took any small BB and photoshopped up to increase their anticipated weight increase, they'd all look better than the guys who are already there.

In other words, I don't think you can really answer the question.  

yes i made this before, i made a comparsion between shawn ray and dorian if both were the exact same size and another one if ray was bigger.. lol
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Figo on May 14, 2009, 11:26:38 AM
yes because of his tremendous back ;).. nasser's only weak point was his back and if benaziza was the same height as nasser his only weak point would have been his calves..  sure the back is more important than the calves!!..

but since “if” is not reality and benaziza was not the same height as Nasser so Nasser can be considered a better bb :P


 ;D
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: French on May 14, 2009, 11:31:39 AM
Nasser has always said that Momo was the only bodybuilder who impressed him.

Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Dballn247 on May 14, 2009, 11:37:14 AM
If Momo was 5'11", would he have been better than Nasser El Sonbaty?

Momo (all 5'2" of him) at his best was better than Ole Wonky Eye (Nasser) at his best.

Momo was one of the best ever.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Danimal77 on May 14, 2009, 12:03:20 PM
Nasser has always said that Momo was the only bodybuilder who impressed him.



That's a pretty arrogant/cocky statement for him to have made.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: spinnis on May 14, 2009, 12:04:13 PM
That's a pretty arrogant/cocky statement for him to have made.

Nothing is cocky if it's the truth my friend.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: kiwiol on May 14, 2009, 12:08:07 PM
Momo was a great bodybuilder, but IMO, David Henry beats him hands down.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: spinnis on May 14, 2009, 12:09:15 PM
Momo was a great bodybuilder, but IMO, David Henry beats him hands down.

david henry doesnt have any biceps                                 ................that qualifies him for at least a few mr O victories
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: kyomu on May 14, 2009, 12:42:04 PM
All the photos which you posted are incredible.
Thick,big, muscular.
I reconfirmed how great he was.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on May 14, 2009, 12:47:45 PM
He would be competative today even
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: honest on May 14, 2009, 12:55:31 PM
only people who Dorian bash are people who never seen him compete from the audience, only there could his overall mass and complete hardness be realised, bashing a very humble champion of the sport, i just dont get it with you guys, even if you think Ronnie was better, why bag him so much.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: kyomu on May 14, 2009, 01:05:22 PM
He would be competative today even
No doubt.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 14, 2009, 01:09:57 PM
only people who Dorian bash are people who never seen him compete from the audience, only there could his overall mass and complete hardness be realised, bashing a very humble champion of the sport, i just dont get it with you guys, even if you think Ronnie was better, why bag him so much.

why are you mentioning dorian now!!..
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 14, 2009, 02:00:08 PM
why are you mentioning dorian now!!..

He preempted you  ;) almost every single thread you make is some how related to or comparing Dorian to whomever
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: kyomu on May 14, 2009, 02:01:55 PM
Momo was a great bodybuilder, but IMO, David Henry beats him hands down.
If David Henry improve his legs, yes.
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: darmhok on May 14, 2009, 02:38:27 PM
His rectus femoris is crazy in this pic!  Check his left thigh. His Vastus medialis is owning his knee cap.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=280540.0;attach=320517;image)

lmao you always say some funny stuff bro
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on May 14, 2009, 02:40:20 PM
only people who Dorian bash are people who never seen him compete from the audience, only there could his overall mass and complete hardness be realised, bashing a very humble champion of the sport, i just dont get it with you guys, even if you think Ronnie was better, why bag him so much.

Dorian crushed ALL of their heros what else can they say? great post BTW
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: seste on May 14, 2009, 03:50:31 PM
1992 mr. olympia my friend..

Thanks for posting the pictures by the way,you always seem to have some rare footage i've never seen !   :)
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 14, 2009, 10:38:39 PM
He preempted you  ;) almost every single thread you make is some how related to or comparing Dorian to whomever

no dorian boy,.. believe it or not but i posted benaziza'z pics beside dorian's not to show he was better but to show how great he was standing beside the great dorian.. i believe i never said dorian at his best (or at any good shape like in 92) was not a great bb!!..
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on May 14, 2009, 10:40:10 PM
Thanks for posting the pictures by the way,you always seem to have some rare footage i've never seen !   :)

thx bud, all are from the net ;D
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: Pecs on May 14, 2009, 11:43:15 PM
Momo was great!

1st short guy to pack on serious mass on such a small frame. Still had more in him, imo.

Momo's road to turning pro was 1 contest. He entered the World Champs in his competing debut, and won the lightweight division. I think he made the team due to someone pulling out last minute, and his undoubted potential.

1990, when he took the NOC beating a new pro Yates, as Mike said he was unbelievable. Definitely not underrated!

1987

World Amateur Championships - IFBB, LightWeight, 1st


1988

Grand Prix France - IFBB, 8th
Olympia - IFBB, 11th


1989

Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix France - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Spain (2) - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Sweden - IFBB, 5th
Olympia - IFBB, 5th


1990

Grand Prix England - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Finland - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix France - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, Winner
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner


1991

Arnold Classic - IFBB, 11th
Ironman Pro Invitational - IFBB, 9th


1992

Arnold Classic - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 4th
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Holland - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Italy - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 5th
Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 7th


Wow! Not many (No) short bodybuilder has that resume, he won quite a few pro shows despite being "small"
Title: Re: Was Momo Benaziza overrated?
Post by: HTexan on May 15, 2009, 12:44:33 AM
That's a pretty arrogant/cocky statement for him to have made.
and it comes from a second rate bber even :-\