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WAS HE REALLY THIS FUKED UP IN THE HEAD?...
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WHAS IT ALL A DON KING FABRICATION....
Can someone be that messed up in the head?
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Talented but easily misguided. Always needed a father figure. But when that figure is Don King....... "the rest is history"
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Mindspin would have just grabbed him and choked him out! ::)
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Check out the recently released Tyson documentary. It's great stuff...
Basically, Tyson is a manchild. He's an emotionally stunted beast with all sorts of mental issues. He's a product of a disfunctional youth. I feel sorry for him really.
In the documentary you see just how child like his mentality is. He fell apart after his only stability and father like mentor, Cus D'Amato, died. You also see how much he loved Gus and how much he misses him. Once Cus was gone, Tyson was exploited and influenced by less than moral people.
Tyson.2009.DvdRip.Xvid.M egaGun
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ntav_mike-tyson-documentary-trailer-new_sport
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Iron Mike = King of All Sound bites. No one gives better quotes!
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Iron Mike = King of All Sound bites. No one gives better quotes!
"i''m gonna eat his children"
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Check out the recently released Tyson documentary. It's great stuff...
Basically, Tyson is a manchild. He's an emotionally stunted beast with all sorts of mental issues. He's a product of a disfunctional youth. I feel sorry for him really.
In the documentary you see just how child like his mentality is. He fell apart after his only stability and father like mentor, Gus D'Amato, died. You also see how much he loved Gus and how much he misses him. Once Gus was gone, Tyson was exploited and influenced by less than moral people.
Tyson.2009.DvdRip.Xvid.M egaGun
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ntav_mike-tyson-documentary-trailer-new_sport
LOL.... "Gus" D'amato....
You'd think that if you would have given us this big lecture on Tyson you could have at least gotten his mentors name right
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"My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable...."
That's an all-time classic that's completely unforgettable.
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LOL.... "Gus" D'amato....
You'd think that if you would have given us this big lecture on Tyson you could have at least gotten his mentors name right
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True lol, its Cus. I always do that. It sounds like Gus when they say it and Cus is so abnormal - mental lapse.
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"My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable...."
That's an all-time classic that's completely unforgettable.
"I eat your asshole alive bitch!"
"I'II fuck you until you love me homo!"
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Check out the recently released Tyson documentary. It's great stuff...
Basically, Tyson is a manchild. He's an emotionally stunted beast with all sorts of mental issues. He's a product of a disfunctional youth. I feel sorry for him really.
In the documentary you see just how child like his mentality is. He fell apart after his only stability and father like mentor, Gus D'Amato, died. You also see how much he loved Gus and how much he misses him. Once Gus was gone, Tyson was exploited and influenced by less than moral people.
Tyson.2009.DvdRip.Xvid.M egaGun
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ntav_mike-tyson-documentary-trailer-new_sport
I don't think it's playing nationwide yet. Only in NY and LA. I'm definatley trying to see it, but I'm not sure if it will go national. DVD is most likely.
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damn, didn't know his dvd were released already
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where can i download it
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where can i download it
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4829533/Tyson.2009.DvdRip.Xvid.MegaGun
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I was always a fan of Mike, because the guy was a serious lyricist.
Despite the rage, I think one has to admit that there was a sort of wicked brilliance inside of him, because he never failed to disappoint in the sound bite (no pun intended) department.
In the little segment that starts at 4:10, he turns - as gently as can be - to the young woman and says, "Are you talking out of turn?"
"I normally don't do interviews with womens unless I fornicate with them. So, you shouldn't talk anymore...unless you wanna, you know..." ;D
I mean, who comes up with that?? Mike's brilliance must be acknowledged.
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:D
nom nom nom
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Damn the Tyson documentray was great.
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And Holyfield had it fucking coming. Deserved it.
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greatest boxer of all time...
strong of body
weak in mind..
so he was exploited by fcuked up peple
like robin givens...
and don king
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greatest boxer of all time...
strong of body
weak in mind..
so he was exploited by fcuked up peple
like robin givens...
and don king
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The scariest guy on the planet in his prime.
I couldn't think of another human being i would rather not have to fight.
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ohhh brother you probably think ali would have beat Tyson in his prime? No way, and Ali would agree.
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WAS HE REALLY THIS FUKED UP IN THE HEAD?...
OR...
WHAS IT ALL A DON KING FABRICATION....
Can someone be that messed up in the head?
my guess is that you'd never say that to his face. :D
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my guess is that you'd never say that to his face. :D
download or rent his new documentary, He is very Honest and open in the interviews..
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ohhh brother you probably think ali would have beat Tyson in his prime? No way, and Ali would agree.
Of course Ali would, but that isn't the point.
Mesmorph said he was the greatest boxer of all time.
Please.......that is laughable.
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Of course Ali would, but that isn't the point.
Mesmorph said he was the greatest boxer of all time.
Please.......that is laughable.
laughable?
man you're messed up.
He would have eaten Ali, and once again, Ali would have agreed with that.
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My uncles friend once got into a street brawl with Tyson back in the late 80's over a broad.
Apparently he was getting the better of Tyson until security broke it up and dragged him off.
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My uncles friend once got into a street brawl with Tyson back in the late 80's over a broad.
Apparently he was getting the better of Tyson until security broke it up and dragged him off.
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My uncles friend once got into a street brawl with Tyson back in the late 80's over a broad.
Apparently he was getting the better of Tyson until security broke it up and dragged him off.
hahahahahahaaa, oh brother. ::)
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hahahahahahaaa, oh brother. ::)
hahaha, look above ;D
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My uncles friend once got into a street brawl with Tyson back in the late 80's over a broad.
Apparently he was getting the better of Tyson until security broke it up and dragged him off.
Oh brother ::)
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laughable?
man you're messed up.
He would have eaten Ali, and once again, Ali would have agreed with that.
It is laughable to say that Tyson is the best boxer of all time.
His supposed prime was like 20 months against a bunch of bums until he got his ass handed to him by Douglas.
Then........he came out of prison knocked out a few more bums, got his second prime(lol) for another year or so then got his ass handed to him by Holyfield.
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I dunno what you guys are laughing at.
This guy had a college wrestling scholarship. My uncle said he took Tyson to the ground "easily",
obviously he didn't want any of Mike's stand-up.
He had Tyson in the mount position and got a couple of good rabbit punches in before being bundled away by security.
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obviously he didn't want any of Mike's stand-up.
Personally, I think Mike is hilarious.
I'd pay to see his stage act.
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I dunno what you guys are laughing at.
This guy had a college wrestling scholarship. My uncle said he took Tyson to the ground "easily",
obviously he didn't want any of Mike's stand-up.
He had Tyson in the mount position and got a couple of good rabbit punches in before being bundled away by security.
Yeah and my uncle kOed Liddel last week at the grocery store cause that trailer trash jumped line ::)
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It was a messy single leg takedown in a crowded bar area,
but everyone was suprised at how easily he was manhandling Tyson
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It was a messy single leg takedown in a crowded bar area,
but everyone was suprised at how easily he was manhandling Tyson
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It was a messy single leg takedown in a crowded bar area,
but everyone was suprised at how easily he was manhandling Tyson
Pics or it didn't happen.
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It was a messy single leg takedown in a crowded bar area,
but everyone was suprised at how easily he was manhandling Tyson
Great story ;)
Cause in crowded bars you always go for the take down and not the one hitter quitter ::)
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It is laughable to say that Tyson is the best boxer of all time.
His supposed prime was like 20 months against a bunch of bums until he got his ass handed to him by Douglas.
Then........he came out of prison knocked out a few more bums, got his second prime(lol) for another year or so then got his ass handed to him by Holyfield.
yeah he only won the title a few times against bums.
Watch the documentary and you will know the reasons why he lost.
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Great story ;)
Cause in crowded bars you always go for the take down and not the one hitter quitter ::)
As I said, this guy had a college wrestling background and was too smart to stand toe to toe with Mike
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yeah he only won the title a few times against bums.
Watch the documentary and you will know the reasons why he lost.
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Yeah pretty much.
Give me the top five boxers that Mike Tyson defeated......I need a good laugh.
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my uncles' best friends plumber's sister knew a guy who's brother worked with a guy who's best friend beat up Chuck Liddell and Ken Shamrock on the same night. :D
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As I said, this guy had a college wrestling background and was too smart to stand toe to toe with Mike
Bro i worked in bars most of my retarded life.
Your uncle is telling fibs.....sorry. 8)
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my uncles' best friends plumber's sister knew a guy who's brother worked with a guy who's best friend beat up Chuck Liddell and Ken Shamrock on the same night. :D
with only his left hand because he broke his right hand the day before knocking wanderlei silva out ;D
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Yeah pretty much.
Give me the top five boxers that Mike Tyson defeated......I need a good laugh.
ali doesn't come even close to tysons speed and power. Not even close. Lightweight speed with HW power.
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ali doesn't come even close to tysons speed and power. Not even close. Lightweight speed with HW power.
DU ER MANEN!
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DU ER MANEN!
when u gonna stop with that ? lol
YOU ERE MANN
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ali doesn't come even close to tysons speed and power. Not even close. Lightweight speed with HW power.
Still waiting for that list of the top 5 boxers that Tyson beat....
I could make a list for the top 5 boxers that Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leornard, Bernard Hopkins, Julio Cesear Chavez, all defeated.....among others.
And they are all impressive.
Tysons list is laughable. Unbelievably overrated by people who know next to nothing about boxing.
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tyson is the greatest.... fighter end of
in his prime he would have tucked lennox... or evander in nicely
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tyson is the greatest.... fighter end of
in his prime he would have tucked lennox... or evander in nicely
i agree.
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Still waiting for that list of the top 5 boxers that Tyson beat....
I could make a list for the top 5 boxers that Sugar Ray Robinson, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leornard, Bernard Hopkins, Julio Cesear Chavez, all defeated.....among others.
And they are all impressive.
Tysons list is laughable. Unbelievably overrated by people who know next to nothing about boxing.
he is Underrrated by people who wanna be "Cool" and not go with the "norm"
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tyson is the greatest.... fighter end of
in his prime he would have tucked lennox... or evander in nicely
EVERYBODY said Tyson was going to destroy Evander in their first fight.....
What happened?
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i agree.
Imagine if Bustamante would have been like 30 yr old when he met Tyson.
Man, tyson would be dominating to this day.
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tyson is the greatest.... fighter end of
in his prime he would have tucked lennox... or evander in nicely
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EVERYBODY said Tyson was going to destroy Evander in their first fight.....
What happened?
he was past his prime then
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he was past his prime then
exactly and he was going thru alot of shit.
If he would have trained all his life like he did with bustamante NO ONE would have ever EVER come close to beating him.
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he was past his prime then
The funny thing about the whole Tyson debate is everyone who wants to build him up as this all time great fighter do it with nothing but a bunch of excuses.
Tyson was a 30 year old man fighting a 34 year old man when he got beat up.
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The funny thing about the whole Tyson debate is everyone who wants to build him up as this all time great fighter do it with nothing but a bunch of excuses.
Tyson was a 30 year old man fighting a 34 year old man when he got beat up.
i love how people conveniently forget the fact that Tyson knocked Douglas out in an earlier round but Buster got a long count. ::)
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The funny thing about the whole Tyson debate is everyone who wants to build him up as this all time great fighter do it with nothing but a bunch of excuses.
Tyson was a 30 year old man fighting a 34 year old man when he got beat up.
like i said tyson is strong of body but not of mind..
he had no one inhis corner aside from that old dude
everyone else tried to screw him over and did....
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i love how people conveniently forget the fact that Tyson knocked Douglas out in an earlier round but Buster got a long count. ::)
Hey bro thats life...I didn't make the rules.
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like i said tyson is strong of body but not of mind..
he had no one inhis corner aside from that old dude
everyone else tried to screw him over and did....
how do you like David haye?
is he making too much noise?
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like i said tyson is strong of body but not of mind..
he had no one inhis corner aside from that old dude
everyone else tried to screw him over and did....
Don't you think you might have to be just a little bit "strong of mind" to be a great fighter?
Ali would have had the fight won at the press conference.
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how do you like David haye?
is he making too much noise?
too talkative
i want klitchko to tuck him in...
i dont think he stands a chance
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too talkative
i want klitchko to tuck him in...
i dont think he stands a chance
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Tyson probably stole polychronopolous girlfriend and his moma back in the day
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klitchko is too big ...
with a verry long reach....
he's gonna keep hayes on the outside and punish him
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Don't you think you might have to be just a little bit "strong of mind" to be a great fighter?
Ali would have had the fight won at the press conference.
hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you need to put the pipe down
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Tyson probably stole polychronopolous girlfriend and his moma back in the day
Nice.... Here come the personal insults....Just a matter of time.
You girls have fun now. :)
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He thought an eye for an eye I guess? Holyfield was a dirty fighter. The threw elbows and led with his head. Love Evander but the guy was a dirty fighter. Look what he did to Hasim Rachman.
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yeah he was a bitch and had it coming.
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Tyson developed a great persona,everyone feared him and was very interested in him
He came from nothing and the money went to his head,same as Paul Gasgoigne in soccer and no doubt many NBA and NFL stars
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klitchko is too big ...
with a verry long reach....
he's gonna keep hayes on the outside and punish him
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Tyson developed a great persona,everyone feared him and was very interested in him
He came from nothing and the money went to his head,same as Paul Gasgoigne in soccer and no doubt many NBA and NFL stars
Money didn't ruin tyson at all, all the people around him that Wanted his money did.
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Money didn't ruin tyson at all, all the people around him that Wanted his money did.
He spent £150,000 on gold jewellery when he was last in London,and this was when he wasnt exactly rolling in income
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Lennox Lewis for sure.
Why the hate on Lewis?
He was a tall guy with a great jab.
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He spent £150,000 on gold jewellery when he was last in London,and this was when he wasnt exactly rolling in income
for tyson it was ALL or nothing... its all about different values, of course a man that comes from NOTHING with no normal parents etc can value money.. and cant handle it,
Thats why rappers etc feel the need to show it of, but thats also why normal white dudes stay rich their entire life while rappers that have 5-10 milliopn always ends up on the streets.
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for tyson it was ALL or nothing... its all about different values, of course a man that comes from NOTHING with no normal parents etc can value money.. and cant handle it,
Thats why rappers etc feel the need to show it of, but thats also why normal white dudes stay rich their entire life while rappers that have 5-10 milliopn always ends up on the streets.
Vanilla Ice,Mc Hammer...yes now working normal jobs and not very rich at all
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Vanilla Ice,Mc Hammer...yes now working normal jobs and not very rich at all
there are Always exceptions to rules. Some people are just plain dumb.
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this chick and her mom sent mike to the depths of s##t. we was never straight after them and don king. after the old dude died he was still jacked because those handlers were taking like 1/2 of his purses.
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this chick and her mom sent mike to the depths of s##t. we was never straight after them and don king. after the old dude died he was still jacked because those handlers were taking like 1/2 of his purses.
And I honestly believe that tyson didn't rape Nobody.
If he did, and served his time as he did, he would have confessed to it now, tyson seems like a honest man, hell in his last fight he just casually said that he Only did it for the money infront of everybody lol.
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And I honestly believe that tyson didn't rape Nobody.
If he did, and served his time as he did, he would have confessed to it now, tyson seems like a honest man, hell in his last fight he just casually said that he Only did it for the money infront of everybody lol.
no, Mike committed a worse crime than rape, he DIDN'T CALL HER BACK after he fuccked her and that pissed her off. :D
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Iron Mike in his prime VS Mohammad Ali in his Prime, im betting on Mike.
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no, Mike committed a worse crime than rape, he DIDN'T CALL HER BACK after he fuccked her and that pissed her off. :D
as he said he regrets that he wasn't smart. and that pretty much sums it up. Still a 14 yr old mind wise..
Just another proof a messud up childhood FUCKS YOU UP in the head.
and thats why homos shouldn't be allowed to adopt.
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(http://www.michaeltyson.com/tyson/Givens.jpg)
this chick and her mom sent mike to the depths of s##t. we was never straight after them and don king. after the old dude died he was still jacked because those handlers were taking like 1/2 of his purses.
Robin Givens also dated Howard Stern.... did she send him to the depths of shit as well?? It's such a cop out to use her relationship with Tyson as an excuse for him getting the shit kicked out of himself on a regular basis.
All I am saying is that it's all relative......Face it, Mike Tyson never had the mental capacity to cut it as a great fighter.
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Robin Givens also dated Howard Stern.... did she send him to the depths of shit as well?? It's such a cop out to use her relationship with Tyson as an excuse for him getting the shit kicked out of himself on a regular basis.
All I am saying is that it's all relative......Face it, Mike Tyson never had the mental capacity to cut it as a great fighter.
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Bro, I remember watching his fight versus Marvis Frazier at my buddy Mitch Smith's house. The bell had just rung and I was so excited that I reached into my pocket to pull out some Peanut M&Ms. By the time I finally dug them out Tyson had already KO'd Frazier.
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Tyson's punching power was way overrated.
he scared the shit outta people, but once you got in the ring with him,
his power was comparable to a large middleweight
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Robin Givens also dated Howard Stern.... did she send him to the depths of shit as well?? It's such a cop out to use her relationship with Tyson as an excuse for him getting the shit kicked out of himself on a regular basis.
All I am saying is that it's all relative......Face it, Mike Tyson never had the mental capacity to cut it as a great fighter.
you're so fucking dumb with your comparisons that its not even funny..
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Michael Jackson got off child molestation charges TWICE! I think they maybe had some pretty convincing evidence to put old Iron Mike away. I wasn't there but I would think at that time in Mikes career he thought he was God and did what he wanted.
Exactly. That is what I've been trying to tell these people for the longest time, it's all about fame and especially money.
Bill Gates could shoot a person in the head in broad daylight, multiple High Definition camera angles, and three eye witnesses.....and he would STILL escape the murder charge.
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Just another proof a messud up childhood FUCKS YOU UP in the head.
and thats why homos shouldn't be allowed to adopt.
LOL
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Sure he did. Up until Cus died and he unified the titles. He needed guidance and didn't have anyone there to give it to him. This guy was a world wide phenom and couldn't handle it. Remember when Tyson fought, the entire world was watching. All the fame, money, and women. I cannot blame him for loosing focus. Watch the first half of Rocky III and it explains it in detail. It's called loosing the eye of the tiger.
Are you talking about that one Rocky movie where he gets all Domesticated? :)
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LOL
I was being serious...
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for tyson it was ALL or nothing... its all about different values, of course a man that comes from NOTHING with no normal parents etc can value money.. and cant handle it,
Thats why rappers etc feel the need to show it of, but thats also why normal white dudes stay rich their entire life while rappers that have 5-10 milliopn always ends up on the streets.
Just like other poor people, Tyson had no idea about proper financial control and went bankrupt because of it. The only one to blaim for his financial moronity = himself.
and thats why homos shouldn't be allowed to adopt.
Please give a few well thought out arguments to support your position.
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Just like other poor people, Tyson had no idea about proper financial control and went bankrupt because of it. The only one to blaim for his financial moronity = himself.
Please give a few well thought out arguments to support your position.
tyson says that himself in his recent documentary, he doesn't blame no one but himself.
Jag kan garantera att om en lite unge blir adopterad till en familj med 2 homosexuella manliga föräldrar att det ungen kommer INTE växa upp och blir "normal" det är orättvist och respektlöst att utsätta ett oskyldigt barn för en sådan uppväxt.
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I feel the same way. And at the time Iron Mike was loaded and had potential to make much more. Enough at least to pay off the jury and the girl he supposodely raped? How did he end up in prison? One will never know?
He was black and had a bad rep, back then , that was probably all it took.
Dont compare him to one of the most loved people of all times MJ.
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Iron Mike in his prime VS Mohammad Ali in his Prime, im betting on Mike.
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Iron Mike in his prime VS Mohammad Ali in his Prime, im betting on Mike.
ali would try dance around and get caught.
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Tyson's punching power was way overrated.
he scared the shit outta people, but once you got in the ring with him,
his power was comparable to a large middleweight
What??
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greatest boxer of all time...
the most overrated fighter of all time
all hype
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Just like other poor people, Tyson had no idea about proper financial control and went bankrupt because of it. The only one to blaim for his financial moronity = himself.
But hold on...
Where was his financial education supposed to come from?
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Tyson was a great fighter with a shaky emotional and mental background. After Cus (RIP) died, he wasn't the same. Medicated and taken advantage of by everyone? That guy has my sympathy and my respect. And in his prime, he'd have laid out anyone you put before him. F$%# these guys talking about Ali and other theoretical s#!+.
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Tyson was a great fighter with a shaky emotional and mental background. After Cus (RIP) died, he wasn't the same. Medicated and taken advantage of by everyone? That guy has my sympathy and my respect. And in his prime, he'd have laid out anyone you put before him. F$%# these guys talking about Ali and other theoretical s#!+.
exactly medicated druged and ex[;oited
in his prime he would have destroyed ANYONE
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But hold on...
Where was his financial education supposed to come from?
From being a responsible adult learning about it himself? ::)
Jag kan garantera att om en lite unge blir adopterad till en familj med 2 homosexuella manliga föräldrar att det ungen kommer INTE växa upp och blir "normal" det är orättvist och respektlöst att utsätta ett oskyldigt barn för en sådan uppväxt.
How can you know? Are there any studies out there that proves your point? :D
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From being a responsible adult learning about it himself? ::)
How can you know? Are there any studies out there that proves your point? :D
I know Im right, Take every single serial killer for example, every single one of them had a fucked up childhood ( ofc some exceptions)
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tyson never defeated an elite fighter
no boxing historian will tell you he was the best of all time, only casual fans that bought into his hype and mystique
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tyson never defeated an elite fighter
no boxing historian will tell you he was the best of all time, only casual fans that bought into his hype and mystique
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Bert Sugar says that he is the pinniacle of boxing...
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Bert Sugar says that he is the pinniacle of boxing...
show me a quote and name the elite fighters he defeated
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if he used the word "pinnacle" he was probably talking about ppv buys and interest in the sport
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Which total moron said Tyson couldnt take a punch!!?!?!Razor Ruddock hit like a truck and his best shot was his left uppercut/hook which he caught Tyson cleanly with - Tyson didnt even blink!!!
others had been knocked COLD by that!
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ohhh brother you probably think ali would have beat Tyson in his prime? No way, and Ali would agree.
The fight wouldn't even start between those tow, they would be too busy talking shit to each other. Imagine it like this
Ali: " I'm the Greatest in the world"
Tyson: " I'll turn your balloon knot purple...Bitch...Salom Alakim"
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I know Im right, Take every single serial killer for example, every single one of them had a fucked up childhood ( ofc some exceptions)
You always have such brilliant ways of backing up your arguments ;D
But you right. A fucked up childhood often leads to fuckeduppness later in life :o
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I wonder if his IQ is above 85?
Fun to watch him blast people in the ring though. Boxing=Boring without him.
Mad aggressive and powerful.
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I wonder if his IQ is above 85?
Fun to watch him blast people in the ring though. Boxing=Boring without him.
Mad aggressive and powerful.
At 85 he = average for his "group" ;D
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I wonder if his IQ is above 85?
Fun to watch him blast bums in the ring though. Boxing=Boring without him.
Mad aggressive and powerful.
fixed
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Mike = role model citizen
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Mikes legacy will be beating up bums in spectacular fashion.
Nothing more, nothing less.
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Who would win a cage fight, Bruce Lee or Mike Tyson?
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Mike was never the same after Cus died he is a person that needs supervision all the time or it always ends up bad. Has anyone seen the new documentary?