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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: DK II on May 15, 2009, 03:20:36 AM
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Christianity is better than Islam:
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Yes, Islam is quite the joke.
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Haha, you gotta love the islamic apologists roaming around these boards. Do they have any idea what they're trying to defend?
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/2ec1awl.jpg)
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Haha, you gotta love the islamic apologists roaming around these boards. Do they have any idea what they're trying to defend?
it's not THIS:
(http://www.lgl.bayern.de/lebensmittel/warencodes/pic/bier.jpg)
(http://www.microkitten.com/images/c3ru/bikini-micro-string.jpg)
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1234/1041431132_62c106bfa0.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2ec1awl.jpg)
drugs make only 2% of the equation....
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islam knows how to keep the bitches in their correct place, no doubting that
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and their hypocrite muslim men checking out the women in bikini.
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islam knows how to keep the bitches in their correct place, no doubting that
qft
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(http://www.emcc.at/tt16/Stelze.jpg)
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(http://www.emcc.at/tt16/Stelze.jpg)
You know I support WLDP but how can you maintain a deficit on THAT? That chunk of fat and meat must have 2000 calories?!
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You know I support WLDP but how can you maintain a deficit on THAT? That chunk of fat and meat must have 2000 calories?!
only on pig-out day of course ;D
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only on pig-out day of course ;D
Good point!
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only on pig-out day of course ;D
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what's the point in your diet "i can eat whatever i want" when in reality you starve yourself to death?
I rather eat three to five medium sized healthy meals ed than having a protein shake in the morning and chinese buffet and ice cream in the evening and starving all day. unhealthy and unsatisfying.
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what's the point in your diet "i can eat whatever i want" when in reality you starve yourself to death?
I rather eat three to five medium sized healthy meals ed than having a protein shake in the morning and chinese buffet and ice cream in the evening and starving all day. unhealthy and unsatisfying.
Wavelength's results speak for themselves. You don't have to do it that way; I use modified WLDP especially because I count calories and I use CAN (Cardio As Needed). The point is not to exaggerate, so this morning I had 45 grams of dark chocolate for 250 calories. I don't starve and have 4-6 meals a day.
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what's the point in your diet "i can eat whatever i want" when in reality you starve yourself to death?
I rather eat three to five medium sized healthy meals ed than having a protein shake in the morning and chinese buffet and ice cream in the evening and starving all day. unhealthy and unsatisfying.
1. I don't starve myself to death, far from it. I can sustain my diet without problem year round.
2. Meal frequency is solely a matter of convenience. If it's more convenient for you to eat more frequently, that's perfect. For me it is not.
3. Chinese buffet is not unhealthy at all.
4. I usually don't eat ice cream in the evening, only on weekends.
5. My diet is probably healthier than most "bodybuilding diets".
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1. I don't starve myself to death, far from it. I can sustain my diet without problem year round.
2. Meal frequency is solely a matter of convenience. If it's more convenient for you to eat more frequently, that's perfect. For me it is not.
3. Chinese buffet is not unhealthy at all.
4. I usually don't eat ice cream in the evening, only on weekends.
5. My diet is probably healthier than most "bodybuilding diets".
:o Du floesst mir Ehrfurcht ein!
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:o Du floesst mir Ehrfurcht ein!
See also this post. Alan is probably one of the most knowledgable nutritionists out there. :)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=279974.msg3960319#msg3960319
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See also this post. Alan is probably one of the most knowledgable nutritionists out there. :)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=279974.msg3960319#msg3960319
Durch deine Worte hast du mich geknechtet....
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1. I don't starve myself to death, far from it. I can sustain my diet without problem year round.
2. Meal frequency is solely a matter of convenience. If it's more convenient for you to eat more frequently, that's perfect. For me it is not.
3. Chinese buffet is not unhealthy at all.
4. I usually don't eat ice cream in the evening, only on weekends.
5. My diet is probably healthier than most "bodybuilding diets".
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All i'm saying is that you overdid it a bit, you come across like you eat sweets, pies and chinese buffet all day long when in fact your "diet" is ONE MEAL per day.
Sure you can't get fat on this, because even if you managed to eat 3000kcal in one sitting, you can easily burn that off because your body starves all day.
No offense, but somehow your diet rather reminds me of Nicole Richie than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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SOM EOF THE MOST BEAUTIFULL GIRLS IN THE WORLKD ASRE ISLAMIC
WHY THE FUCKING HATE ????????????????????????
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without a doubt Christianity dominates Islam.
Christian prophet - chill bearded carpenter who can walk on water and hook people up with wine.
Islam prophet - creepy old pedophile.
Christian women - taught to be innocent but in reality are little sex kittens who love to fuck.
Islam women - too scared to show their face because some stinky old man will stone or rape them...which will then result in the woman being punished for being a victim.
*both can be hot but you're pretty much rolling the dice with a chick who's covered.
Christian holiday - Christmas. Time to party, drink, be happy, and exchange gifts.
Islam holiday - Ramadan. Praying and fasting.
KO in the first round. Winner - Christianity.
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SOM EOF THE MOST BEAUTIFULL GIRLS IN THE WORLKD ASRE ISLAMIC
WHY THE FUCKING HATE ????????????????????????
Muslims = Extremists
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All i'm saying is that you overdid it a bit, you come across like you eat sweets, pies and chinese buffet all day long when in fact your "diet" is ONE MEAL per day.
Sure you can't get fat on this, because even if you managed to eat 3000kcal in one sitting, you can easily burn that off because your body starves all day.
No offense, but somehow your diet rather reminds me of Nicole Richie than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
WLDP= high protein, caloric deficit, enough nutrients. Why can't you drop weight this way? Wavelength's results speak for themselves as I said.
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See also this post. Alan is probably one of the most knowledgable nutritionists out there. :)
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=279974.msg3960319#msg3960319
Well, very nice of you to quote No 7, but leave out No.3 of the original post. Ever checked what your Guru said there about "No Cardio, Meal timing is not necessary"??
3. In your own training past, what would you say were your worst mistakes in terms of training, nutrition or both? Put differently, what would you do differently now?
Nutrition wise, I think my worst mistake I ever made was not taking advantage of my massive energy expenditure as a result of biking my way through college. Not having a car was my meal ticket - literally - to eating more quality junk food and not taking any significant hits to the gut. Unfortunately, I took it for granted and never took full advantage of it. I often reminisce about having a pint of Hagen Daaz (discontinued flavor: honey vanilla or New York Superfudge Chunk) every single night right before bed. This of course was after I biked to school, then biked to work, then biked my ass back home. [/i][/u]I would make a stop at 7-11 and get the beloved pint of ice cream. I was leaner than I ever was in my life. Now I don't have time for the kind of work output I used to have, so I have to be a lot more careful with my indulgences. Hindsight hurts - badly.
Another nutritional mistake I made was neglecting the timing of protein and carbs. Basically, I HAD no nutrient timing. I just trained as hard as I could, and ate when it was convenient. Talk about taking one step forward and one step back. If you can remember as recently as 10 years ago, it was all about postworkout nutrition. Improvements in size and strength really didn't exponentiate for me until I grasped on to the "sandwich your training bout with protein + carbs" concept. On a tangent, this actually gets a little weird, but as of late, I've been remiss about pre-workout mental prep. Dorian Yates talked about mentally preparing for the training bout the night before, and continuing that prep for up to an hour prior to the bout. I don't have that kind of time, but there's something to be said about pre-training psyching and visualization.
Another nutritional mistake I made in the past was spending my money on isolated BCAA. It's amazing how you can get taken in by the hype of certain things, and I'm certainly not immune to it. BCAA is one of the most hyped supplements in the last decade, of course with an emphasis on leucine. The thing is, no one wants to accept that they're already taking down an ass-ton of BCAA if they consume the high amount of protein typical of bodybuilding diets. Anyway, I experimented with dumping my supplemental BCAA and slightly increasing my overall protein intake. Whaddaya know, progress never ceased, and I've been saving a lot of cash that would have literally gotten pissed down the drain.
Training mistakes I've made in the past were a couple of things. 1st of all, as a youngin' I got my initial routines out of Flex magazine, during an era when bodybuilders obliterated their bodyparts once a week with a whole lot of volume. As soon as I cut my volume in half and doubled the frequency, my gains accelerated. I've tried cutting volume down further to hit BP's 3x a week, but found that it didn't quite work as well. I also was a fan of Mike Mentzer, so I truly believed that every working set had to be taken to failure, with with partials, and occasional negatives. As soon as I became happy with sticking to concentric failure and nothing more, I saw a definite hike in progress. As an experiment I took failure training out completely for a stint of time, and didn't see the same rate of gains, not by a long shot.
Another training mistake I've made in the past - one I think that we've all done - is go more by the numbers than by the feel, letting the numbers dictate the workout rather than letting the muscles do it. I was overly concerned with the quantitative awareness of load progression, rather than what one of my old training partners called "finding the pump". This might be more of a bodybuilding thing than anything else, but people should work up to a point where they are indifferent towards the number stamped on the iron. Trainees should practice developing a sense of optimal resistance for the given goal of any set, even if you're completely unaware of the actual weight. Blindfolded sensation-based training, so to speak.
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Muslims = Extremists
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WLDP= high protein, caloric deficit, enough nutrients. Why can't you drop weight this way? Wavelength's results speak for themselves as I said.
He is doing EXACLTY the same Bullshit as TA now, posting pics of unhealthy meals and claiming he eats all of those on a daily basis, only eating what he wants etc...
Same with TA, later it's all rowing backwards claiming "i only said healthy diet high protein bla bla bla."
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All i'm saying is that you overdid it a bit, you come across like you eat sweets, pies and chinese buffet all day long when in fact your "diet" is ONE MEAL per day.
I don't know what you're talking about, I always came perfectly clear about my diet. Caloric restriction is essential.
Sure you can't get fat on this, because even if you managed to eat 3000kcal in one sitting, you can easily burn that off because your body starves all day. No offense, but somehow your diet rather reminds me of Nicole Richie than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
If I ate 3000kcals in that one meal, I would gain the exact same amount of weight than I would if I spread the meals out. My body does not starve all day, I drink protein during the day. What my diet reminds you of is completely irrelevant. The diet is optimal for body composition plus it's the most convenient diet for me.
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I did read the whole article and I know that Alan believes in meal timing around workouts. However, his rules are far less strict than those of most nutritionists.
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He is doing EXACLTY the same Bullshit as TA now, posting pics of unhealthy meals and claiming he eats all of those on a daily basis, only eating what he wants etc...
Same with TA, later it's all rowing backwards claiming "i only said healthy diet high protein bla bla bla."
Bro science is just as prevalent when it comes to health as it is when it comes to bodybuilding. But I agree that more restrictions might be necessary if your goal is optimal health. I posted this pic mainly as a joke response regarding muslim food restrictions (beer, pork). :)
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I don't know what you're talking about, I always came perfectly clear about my diet. Caloric restriction is essential.
If I ate 3000kcals in that one meal, I would gain the exact same amount of weight than I would if I spread the meals out. My body does not starve all day, I drink protein during the day. What my diet reminds you of is completely irrelevant. The diet is optimal for body composition plus it's the most convenient diet for me.
i was playing with figures there, make 1500 of the 300 if you like.
What i am saying is that you do what a lot of people do, yet claim you have the holy grail.
You drink protein shakes during the day and then eat ONE MEAL in the evening, maybe it's fast food, maybe not.
That's all, nothing more. There's nothing special about that, every fucking hollywood celebrity does that.
I did read the whole article and I know that Alan believes in meal timing around workouts. However, his rules are far less strict than those of most nutritionists.
What "Rules"??
all those "rules" are nonexistant. There are different theories, maybe.
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Bro science is just as prevalent when it comes to health as it is when it comes to bodybuilding. But I agree that more restrictions might be necessary if your goal is optimal health. I posted this pic mainly as a joke response regarding muslim food restrictions (beer, pork). :)
i know, i got that.
I was just saying you need to be careful otherwise you'll be the new Adonis, posting pics of Pizza all day and claiming you are ripped eating this.
It's just an image you create, because we aren't around you 24/7. You could be eating brown rice, chicken breast and broccoli wihtout salt 5 times a day, no one can say here.
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i was playing with figures there, make 1500 of the 300 if you like.
What i am saying is that you do what a lot of people do, yet claim you have the holy grail.
You drink protein shakes during the day and then eat ONE MEAL in the evening, maybe it's fast food, maybe not.
That's all, nothing more. There's nothing special about that, every fucking hollywood celebrity does that.
I never claimed originality or exclusiveness and I never used the term "WLDP". No idea what the problem is.
What "Rules"??
all those "rules" are nonexistant. There are different theories, maybe.
Correct, that's what I meant, his theories. In his case however at least based on real science.
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i know, i got that.
I was just saying you need to be careful otherwise you'll be the new Adonis, posting pics of Pizza all day and claiming you are ripped eating this.
It's just an image you create, because we aren't around you 24/7. You could be eating brown rice, chicken breast and broccoli wihtout salt 5 times a day, no one can say here.
I believe Wellenlaenge. He is honest and a straight shooter. You should try MWLDP, I have and it is working out ok...
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i know, i got that.
I was just saying you need to be careful otherwise you'll be the new Adonis, posting pics of Pizza all day and claiming you are ripped eating this.
It's just an image you create, because we aren't around you 24/7. You could be eating brown rice, chicken breast and broccoli wihtout salt 5 times a day, no one can say here.
I could be lying, that's true. However, I started a food log for 2009 and can tell you exactly what I ate every single day.
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(http://www.emcc.at/tt16/Stelze.jpg)
DAMN! give me a little hotsauce to throw on that and about 5 more beers!Looks damn good.
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I could be lying, that's true. However, I started a food log for 2009 and can tell you exactly what I ate every single day.
For me it's been important to keep track of calories, since this is my first real effort to go the all the way. There's WLDP and MWLDP, MWLDP is the best approach. I would never eat McDonalds just because I think it is disgusting...as an example.
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I believe Wellenlaenge. He is honest and a straight shooter. You should try MWLDP, I have and it is working out ok...
i'm sorry, but i have done "MWLDP" long enough to know it sucks when it comes to your overall wellbeing. If you want to lose weight, you can do a lot of stuff. Here's a tip, try drinking only protein shakes for a time, you'll lose weight very fast, but you will feel and look like shit.
There's a big difference between dieting down to be ripped and dieting down wihtout losing a lot of muscle as well.
I could be lying, that's true. However, I started a food log for 2009 and can tell you exactly what I ate every single day.
No need to prove anything here. I couldn't care less than what some guy on the internet has eaten in 2009.
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i'm sorry, but i have done "MWLDP" long enough to know it sucks when it comes to your overall wellbeing. If you want to lose weight, you can do a lot of stuff. Here's a tip, try drinking only protein shakes for a time, you'll lose weight very fast, but you will feel and look like shit.
There's a big difference between dieting down to be ripped and dieting down wihtout losing a lot of muscle as well.
No need to prove anything here. I couldn't care less than what some guy on the internet has eaten in 2009.
This makes no sense. If a person weighing 80kg drinking 150 grams of protein via shakes and covers say 30-50 grams through solid food, how will this lead to accelerated loss of muscle? Protein requirements are totally covered. Why would you lose more muscle doing this than eating chicken breasts?
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This makes no sense. If a person weighing 80kg drinking 150 grams of protein via shakes and covers say 30-50 grams through solid food, how will this lead to accelerated loss of muscle? Protein requirements are totally covered. Why would you lose more muscle doing this than eating chicken breasts?
i didn't mean the two lines in a direct connection, sorry.
you can get fat drinking only protein shakes if you like. All i say is it's not a good diet. sure it may work for fatloss or muscle gains, but drinking ONE shake in the morning and one binge meal in the evening like WL has claimed before will most likely lead to "Johnnynoname"-i-look-like-i-have-AIDS-ripped.
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i didn't mean the two lines in a direct connection, sorry.
you can get fat drinking only protein shakes if you like. All i say is it's not a good diet. sure it may work for fatloss or muscle gains, but drinking ONE shake in the morning and one binge meal in the evening like WL has claimed before will most likely lead to "Johnnynoname"-i-look-like-i-have-AIDS-ripped.
I don't follow; why this?
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i'm sorry, but i have done "MWLDP" long enough to know it sucks when it comes to your overall wellbeing. If you want to lose weight, you can do a lot of stuff. Here's a tip, try drinking only protein shakes for a time, you'll lose weight very fast, but you will feel and look like shit.
There's a big difference between dieting down to be ripped and dieting down wihtout losing a lot of muscle as well.
No need to prove anything here. I couldn't care less than what some guy on the internet has eaten in 2009.
It was theorized that protein loss during fasting was harmful and that a fast should be supplemented with protein. Fasting with protein became known as the Opti-fast. Fasters took nothing but water and a protein drink. Sadly, several people died. Protein digestion during the fasting state created an overload of urea and the blood become acidic. In this condition, the organs become more damaged instead of healing....this is why you wouldnt want to drink only protien shakes for a time.probably why you would feel like shit to.
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It was theorized that protein loss during fasting was harmful and that a fast should be supplemented with protein. Fasting with protein became known as the Opti-fast. Fasters took nothing but water and a protein drink. Sadly, several people died. Protein digestion during the fasting state created an overload of urea and the blood become acidic. In this condition, the organs become more damaged instead of healing....this is why you wouldnt want to drink only protien shakes for a time.probably why you would feel like shit to.
I don't feel bad for covering most of my protein needs with shakes. Convenient as hell.
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I don't follow; why this?
because you will lose weight to fast and thus also lose muscle on only shakes and junk food.
I can't see how you can live only on protein shakes all day, maybe for a week or so. The point is, i think WL isn't even doing his diet in all the extremes he claims to do, i don't expect him to dine out every night and spend all his money on protein powder.
So, this means he cooks some meals, or his wife or gf or his mommy or whoever, and these people will listen to him when he says "no white rice tody for me" or "buy more lean meat when you go shopping honey" and so on.
I also don't limit myself to anything, but i'm far from claiming i would eat junk food ed.
I don't feel bad for covering most of my protein needs with shakes. Convenient as hell.
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I don't want to go there again.
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I don't feel bad for covering most of my protein needs with shakes. Convenient as hell.
i mean, getting your dick out an wanking to internet porn is more convenient than asking a girl out, going to dinner, paying the food, making compliments, gettign home with her, talking a bit, kissing, going home, meeting again and again until you get to fuck her but that doesn't mean wanking to internet porn is better than fucking, right?
Shakes = wanking
cooking your own healthy meals from fresh ingredients = fucking.
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because you will lose weight to fast and thus also lose muscle on only shakes and junk food.
I can't see how you can live only on protein shakes all day, maybe for a week or so. The point is, i think WL isn't even doing his diet in all the extremes he claims to do, i don't expect him to dine out every night and spend all his money on protein powder.
So, this means he cooks some meals, or his wife or gf or his mommy or whoever, and these people will listen to him when he says "no white rice tody for me" or "buy more lean meat when you go shopping honey" and so on.
I also don't limit myself to anything, but i'm far from claiming i would eat junk food ed.
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I don't want to go there again.
Wavelength is a solid Kerl.
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Wavelength is a solid Kerl.
no doubt about it.
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i mean, getting your dick out an wanking to internet porn is more convenient than asking a girl out, going to dinner, paying the food, making compliments, gettign home with her, talking a bit, kissing, going home, meeting again and again until you get to fuck her but that doesn't mean wanking to internet porn is better than fucking, right?
Shakes = wanking
cooking your own healthy meals from fresh ingredients = fucking.
Not a argument for dieting but costwise, I save a lot using shakes.
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i'm sorry, but i have done "MWLDP" long enough to know it sucks when it comes to your overall wellbeing. If you want to lose weight, you can do a lot of stuff. Here's a tip, try drinking only protein shakes for a time, you'll lose weight very fast, but you will feel and look like shit.
There's a big difference between dieting down to be ripped and dieting down wihtout losing a lot of muscle as well.
No need to prove anything here. I couldn't care less than what some guy on the internet has eaten in 2009.
You maybe know that it sucks for you. My method is just one possible method which follows the essential rules. Every bodybuilder diet also falls into that category.
My point is not to lose weight and feel like shit but to have optimal body composition and feel great. For the former you need to follow the essential rules, for the latter you need to experiment with the unessential factors until they fit you best. With my current diet, my ratio of fat loss vs. muscle loss was the best I ever had. No idea why this comes up again and again.
You said I could be lying, I said I can provide a complete food log. Kind of funny to say you're not interested after acusing me of lying.
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Not a argument for dieting but costwise, I save a lot using shakes.
you're one in a million.
You maybe know that it sucks for you. My method is just one possible method which follows the essential rules. Every bodybuilder diet also falls into that category.
My point is not to lose weight and feel like shit but to have optimal body composition and feel great. For the former you need to follow the essential rules, for the latter you need to experiment with the unessential factors until they fit you best. With my current diet, my ratio of fat loss vs. muscle loss was the best I ever had. No idea why this comes up again and again.
You said I could be lying, I said I can provide a complete food log. Kind of funny to say you're not interested after acusing me of lying.
i never said you lie, i said you weren't very accurate in how your diet looks like. Post the food log, if you feel better then.
I bet i can find a lot of "normal" healthy food on it.
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you're one in a million.
i never said you lie, i said you weren't very accurate in how your diet looks like. Post the food log, if you feel better then.
I bet i can find a lot of "normal" healthy food on it.
Why this?
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i never said you lie, i said you weren't very accurate in how your diet looks like. Post the food log, if you feel better then.
I bet i can find a lot of "normal" healthy food on it.
You said I could be lying. I suggested a way to prove I'm not. If you're not interested, fine. I have no ambition to prove anything, I just said I could. Some people will still say it's no proof and I could have made up everything so I guess there's not really a point to it anyway. I also never claimed to exclusively eat "junk" food every day. No idea where this comes from.
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You said I could be lying. I suggested a way to prove I'm not. If you're not interested, fine. I have no ambition to prove anything, I just said I could. Some people will still say it's no proof and I could have made up everything so I guess there's not really a point to it anyway. I also never claimed to exclusively eat "junk" food every day. No idea where this comes from.
T3, Stanzonol, Primobolan....obvious... . ;)
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most likely lead to "Johnnynoname"-i-look-like-i-have-AIDS-ripped.
hahahahahaha
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What did you eat the last 3 days wave?
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I ate a pie Deicide, in case you were going to ask me next.
it was chicken.
ta ta
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What did you eat the last 3 days wave?
2009-05-12:
Lunch at Greek Restaurant: tomatoe soup with pasta and white bread, moussaka with potatoes and tzaziki, diet coke, greek coffee, piece if turkish delight.
Rest of the Day: 100g whey protein shake, a little healthy oil.
2009-05-13:
Lunch at Austrian Restaurant: breaded and deep fried chicken legs, potatoe salad, quark-cherry strudel, diet coke.
Rest of the Day: 100g whey protein shake, a little healthy oil.
2009-05-14:
Lunch at Asian Buffet: sushi, peppered coleslaw, tofu with beef and veggies, wings, deep fried veggies, fried noodles, fried potatoes, deep fried chicken, mango and coconut pudding, lychees, diet coke, plum wine.
Rest of the Day: 100g whey protein shake, some EFA oil.
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:D
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2009-05-12:
Lunch at Greek Restaurant: tomatoe soup with pasta and white bread, moussaka with potatoes and tzaziki, diet coke, greek coffee, piece if turkish delight.
Rest of the Day: 100g whey protein shake, a little healthy oil.
2009-05-13:
Lunch at Austrian Restaurant: breaded and deep fried chicken legs, potatoe salad, quark-cherry strudel, diet coke.
Rest of the Day: 100g whey protein shake, a little healthy oil.
2009-05-14:
Lunch at Asian Buffet: sushi, peppered coleslaw, tofu with beef and veggies, wings, deep fried veggies, fried noodles, fried potatoes, deep fried chicken, mango and coconut pudding, lychees, diet coke, plum wine.
Rest of the Day: 100g whey protein shake, some EFA oil.
One thing that puzzles me is that it must be expensive to do that. What does the Asian buffet cost?
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One thing that puzzles me is that it must be expensive to do that. What does the Asian buffet cost?
The meals are all around 8-10 Euros including the beverage. Plus our employees get 4.40 Euro per day (tax deductible) from the company as a bonus to go eat.
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I see 3 muslim women and one white slut, what is your point?
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I see 3 muslim women and one white slut, what is your point?
How do you know the muslim whores are women?
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Amin brother! ;D