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I did an inject in my right quad on thursday of last week, and it is still killing me. Also both sides of my ass hurt very bad from the glute injections this week. This is the most painful stuff I have ever used, I am seriously considering giving it away.
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I did an inject in my right quad on thursday of last week, and it is still killing me. Also both sides of my ass hurt very bad from the glute injections this week. This is the most painful stuff I have ever used, I am seriously considering giving it away.
Hey what are using by them?
I had a painful shot or 2 of thier test E at first start of it. I was injecting 2 ml when it got painful, now I have been doing just 1 ml shots of it and have not had much pain at all with it now.
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using their cypobolin. it is very easy to draw and shoot which i like, but this pain is just rediculous.
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not worth it, there is no reason why that shit has to hurt, give it away, take the loss and gte something that youll enjoy, there is noting like having the dread every time you're about to shoot
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not worth it, there is no reason why that shit has to hurt, give it away, take the loss and gte something that youll enjoy, there is noting like having the dread every time you're about to shoot
Probably has more BA in it than Head Lice solution...
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High B.A content, GARBAGE...
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I'm getting more and more suspicious of AP. I wouldn't use that shit if someone shipped me a thousand dollars worth. It's sad to see so much wasted gear. They seem like their treating their shitty product with too much BA. That's sketchy!!
Hope you didn't buy too much, bro. I'd honestly pack it up and throw it out.. poor out a lil oil homie.
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Why do you guys even use UG shit? Especially test? I mean you don't need tren or EQ to get huge. Dieting with prop, winstrol, deca, halo, etc. you can still get lean as hell. I'll use UG EQ once in a while from a brand I know is legit but other than that it's brands like ICN, Omna, Zafa, Tamin Caspian, etc. HG all the way. And I know HG is still counterfeited but you gotta know your gear and your source.
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your right, i say hg for sure, but i think for some, money may be a issue and there are some good ug labs out there, unfort some happen to fall on some that this, where the BA is probably too high and the shit hurts everytime its injected, NOT FUN! good thing is, you can find some fairly priced hg test! i will only use hg test but the other stuff can be ug/
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I dont feel any pain at all. ???
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i thought alpha was HG just a lower quality........ i have their test e and their NPP the test e feels great the NPP scares the shit out of you cause it hurts so much
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alpha pharma test didnt hurt. it is indian human grade unless you show me otherwise.
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alpha pharma test didnt hurt. it is indian human grade unless you show me otherwise.
thats what i thought cause all the gear i get is india manufactured i use the ORGANON (infar) alpha pharma and all my AI's and dbols and a50 are india.... man i need to take a trip there
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wierd, but everyone seems to think their E is painless. I have the C, although I dont know why that would make a difference. Im def. not training legs this week, the pain is too bad.
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wierd, but everyone seems to think their E is painless. I have the C, although I dont know why that would make a difference. Im def. not training legs this week, the pain is too bad.
actually it does make a difference each ester is very different as in terms of its chemical make up,,,, you can have one that doesnt get sore from prop but gets sore from something in sust could be the acetate or decanate that is in it ......your body might not like the way that the test cyp is made....... or it could just be a bad batch or you need to inject smaller amounts into the muscle until it adapts to that chemical
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wierd, but everyone seems to think their E is painless. I have the C, although I don't know why that would make a difference. Im def. not training legs this week, the pain is too bad.
I have had bad leg shots too, but I don't think the gear had anything to do with it, not saying yours does not. But sometimes shots just go bad and end up painful. I have had that same type leg pain post shot before a few times.
Like I said my shoulder got a bad knot from 2ml test E from them which i did not like, so I tried just a single ml and its been OK. I hit my bicep with some and I knew was gonna hurt later cause when i pushed the needle in my muscle jumped like I hit a nerve. Sure enough it is the sorest biceps shot I have had. Speaking about the bi shots I was scared at first but they are not bad at all.
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I have had bad leg shots too, but I don't think the gear had anything to do with it, not saying yours does not. But sometimes shots just go bad and end up painful. I have had that same type leg pain post shot before a few times.
true, ive been there as well. i only used 3 amps of this stuff though, and all 3 have been probably the worst pain afterwards ive ever had. more than a coincidence imo.
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I have had bad leg shots too, but I don't think the gear had anything to do with it, not saying yours does not. But sometimes shots just go bad and end up painful. I have had that same type leg pain post shot before a few times.
Like I said my shoulder got a bad knot from 2ml test E from them which i did not like, so I tried just a single ml and its been OK. I hit my bicep with some and I knew was gonna hurt later cause when i pushed the needle in my muscle jumped like I hit a nerve. Sure enough it is the sorest biceps shot I have had. Speaking about the bi shots I was scared at first but they are not bad at all.
Do you hit the inner or outer portion of your bicep when you inject? What's the max you inject?
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Do you hit the inner or outer portion of your bicep when you inject? What's the max you inject?
I have only hit the inner head so far, only have done 4 shots in bis so far, Im a bi shot newbie :) But yes you could also hit the outer head too, the guys who use site enhancement oils are instructed to hit both heads.
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I also inject in my Bi's it's the best spot with shoulder for me. I was scared first time but now it's so easy. I inject only 0.5cc but I think you can go to 1cc. I inject in the inner part. I never feel sore with bi's injection and I must say I love it.
Friday I try to inject 2cc in my left quads, Oh fuck that's hurt, I cant barely walk, my quads is on fire I dont think I'll be able to train legs tomorrow.
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Lots of variables. Seems also to be relative to the individual.
Quads are one of my favorite in the rotation, pump 2.5ml in with no sweat. Sometimes it feels a little like a charlie-horse the next day, but nothing debilitating.
I was using a 21g pin, that was causing some pain in any location. Switched to 23g and inject real slow, no problems.
Jay inspired me to try the pecs last week, scary but went well.
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Nice to help bro ^^Pec is awesome spot to inject.
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Prop is really the only thing that hurts no matter where I inject. It doesn't hurt while injecting, but the next day it's sore for a couple of days.
Generally, these are my max amounts:
- 4cc's per hip
- 3cc's per glute
- 3cc x 4 spots per quad
- 3cc's per lat
- 2cc x 2 spots per pec
- 2cc per delts
- 1.5cc per outer tricep
- 1cc per inner or outer calve
- 1cc per inner bicep
- 1.5cc in my traps
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Prop is really the only thing that hurts no matter where I inject. It doesn't hurt while injecting, but the next day it's sore for a couple of days.
Generally, these are my max amounts:
- 4cc's per hip
- 3cc's per glute
- 3cc x 4 spots per quad
- 3cc's per lat
- 2cc x 2 spots per pec
- 2cc per delts
- 1.5cc per outer tricep
- 1cc per inner or outer calve
- 1cc per inner bicep
- 1.5cc in my traps
That's what I call a lot of spot nice !
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I think I have an abscess coming, no joke. There is a small lump about the size of a nickel at the spot on my glute where I injected, and the area is a bit pink and feels warm when I touch it. Going wait a day or two, then see a doc if its still there.
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I think I have an abscess coming, no joke. There is a small lump about the size of a nickel at the spot on my glute where I injected, and the area is a bit pink and feels warm when I touch it. Going wait a day or two, then see a doc if its still there.
At the surface or deep in the muscle?
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At the surface or deep in the muscle?
surface, just under the skin. if i remember correctly for some reason when i was putting the pin in it hurt very bad, like maybe i hit a nerve or something. it actually looks better today. the lump is still there but it isnt as red and isnt as warm.
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how would you rate alpha-pharma in terms of strength/size gains? effective gear besides the pain?
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how would you rate alpha-pharma in terms of strength/size gains? effective gear besides the pain?
dont know, i only used 3 amps of the stuff at the end of my cycle. all the other test was rotexmedica.
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alpha pharma test didnt hurt. it is indian human grade unless you show me otherwise.
Might want to check your source.
Anyone remember those tests i just posted?
Contaminated gear is serious business.
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man tsucks that you have a bad taste in your mouth about ALPHA PHARMA the stuff i got was nice and some of my AI tabs are from them also....... check back with your source and see if he will reinburst you
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Might want to check your source.
Anyone remember those tests i just posted?
Contaminated gear is serious business.
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what do you mean?
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got back from the doctor today. said it was a mild abscess and i caught it early so its unlikely it is going to need to be drained or cut out. they gave me some antibacterial prescription and gave me another apointment for friday. its about the size of a quarter and is more oval shaped than round.
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would you associate the abcess with the gear or an accident (ie not swabbing your skin in alcohol)?
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would you associate the abcess with the gear or an accident (ie not swabbing your skin in alcohol)?
ive done hundreds of injections and this was my first abscess. i always take care to shower first and then swab the skin w/ alcohol beforehand. i dont know if i just got unlucky this time, but is highly suspicious because that was only the 3rd amp of the stuff i had used. i remember when i put the pin in though, it hurt very bad as if i hit a nerve or something. was the worst pain injecting i ever had.
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maybe you got a sterile abscess since you said it hurt right away also i have had injections where they hurt immediately and got red sore and hot by the next morning but it went away after a week and that was from just a bad injection thats all
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little bump, does anyone know why alpha pharma no longer makes cypobolin?
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i dont kno..but i think you should toss that shit and get on some better test...you either got a bad batch or got some fakes....this is weird cuz most of the reviews i have seen for alpha have been great
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I don't have any solid proof to this, only a hunch and strong suspicion.
Most of the Alpha Pharma gear I've seen has been good, as good as you can ask for it to be. I've known a lot of people who've used it and had no problems, only good results. Now I have heard of people complaining on message boards about some AP products, never heard of anyone in "real" life complain about it though and every time I've heard someone on a message board complain about it, it seems that it always comes from a different source than where other people are getting their AP products.
This tends to make me believe that someone out there is using the AP name for their product when it's not legitimate AP. There is no reason not to think this since this type of thing happens in the AAS world all the time...counterfeit product is the oldest trick in the book.
Legit, good AP is well known and well used. A lot of pro BB use AP and love it.
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I don't have any solid proof to this, only a hunch and strong suspicion.
Most of the Alpha Pharma gear I've seen has been good, as good as you can ask for it to be. I've known a lot of people who've used it and had no problems, only good results. Now I have heard of people complaining on message boards about some AP products, never heard of anyone in "real" life complain about it though and every time I've heard someone on a message board complain about it, it seems that it always comes from a different source than where other people are getting their AP products.
This tends to make me believe that someone out there is using the AP name for their product when it's not legitimate AP. There is no reason not to think this since this type of thing happens in the AAS world all the time...counterfeit product is the oldest trick in the book.
Legit, good AP is well known and well used. A lot of pro BB use AP and love it.
Good Point
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alpha pharma is UGL! and i read few times already got abscess!
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alpha pharma is UGL! and i read few times already got abscess!
no its not i posted the article stateing that they are a liscensed manufacturer and are for international sells only............. you are just pissed because asia pharma is bunk
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alpha pharma is UGL! and i read few times already got abscess!
Not sure what your deal is with Alpha Pharma...I don't think I've ever seen anyone who is so anti any brand before. And when there are so many people out there who live and die by this brand...not gym rats, but people who actually have a fairly good idea about what's going on...it's really hard not to question what your motive is.
Anyway, AP is not UGL. No, it's not a licensed Pharma company in the U.S. but does that really matter?
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no its not in USA but is lisenced in india where it is made , for export sales only ........ the only thing i dont like from AP is the NPP that shit burns bad even when mixed with test e, but sust also gives me a lil soreness as well
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no its not in USA but is lisenced in india where it is made , for export sales only ........ the only thing i dont like from AP is the NPP that shit burns bad even when mixed with test e, but sust also gives me a lil soreness as well
so you have tried induject? did it give you more soreness than INFAR?
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My friend used testobolin before i used the cypobolin and he did not have any problems at all. We both got our stuff from the same guy. I am thinking mine was just a bad batch. Have not had any problems since I finished the medicine I got from the doctor.
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alpha pharma NEVER show any prof they are registered in INdia....if you Google Indian FDA there is no alpha pharma..so who lie..where are profs my friend? they can only say to stupid kids they are Human,etc..
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alpha pharma NEVER show any prof they are registered in INdia....if you Google Indian FDA there is no alpha pharma..so who lie..where are profs my friend? they can only say to stupid kids they are Human,etc..
According to their website they are based out of Bangkok, Thailand their "(cGMP) requirements for international pharmaceutical, biotechnology and active pharmaceutical ingredient companies" are in good standing with the
US FDA
MCA (now MHRA)
TGA
MCC
WHO
Schedule M, India
Yes, it is possible that this could all be complete BS...I realize that...anything is possible. But it's highly unlikely. AP has been around too long and too many people use their stuff and most people are pretty happy about it.
I don't know if you said or not...haven't been around here in awhile, but have you ever actually used any AP gear?
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i havnt seen any ug produce products in amps like alpha-pharma does. im not saying alpha-pharma is HG just because they are in ampoules, but i used their prop and it was painless and g2g so that leads me to believe they are using good manufacturing practices. has anyone tried their DECA?
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i havnt seen any ug produce products in amps like alpha-pharma does. im not saying alpha-pharma is HG just because they are in ampoules, but i used their prop and it was painless and g2g so that leads me to believe they are using good manufacturing practices. has anyone tried their DECA?
i'd also like to know if anyone has used their deca...looks good to go
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According to their website they are based out of Bangkok, Thailand their "(cGMP) requirements for international pharmaceutical, biotechnology and active pharmaceutical ingredient companies" are in good standing with the
US FDA
MCA (now MHRA)
TGA
MCC
WHO
Schedule M, India
Yes, it is possible that this could all be complete BS...I realize that...anything is possible. But it's highly unlikely. AP has been around too long and too many people use their stuff and most people are pretty happy about it.
I don't know if you said or not...haven't been around here in awhile, but have you ever actually used any AP gear?
dude just to chime you in this dexter guy has been whoreing and spamming asia pharma post links to sources and all kinds of threads with links to sources..... hes been on here a short while and the first thing he started doing was bash alpha pharma and pushing asia pharma dudes a joke and he knows it
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According to their website they are based out of Bangkok, Thailand their "(cGMP) requirements for international pharmaceutical, biotechnology and active pharmaceutical ingredient companies" are in good standing with the
US FDA
MCA (now MHRA)
TGA
MCC
WHO
Schedule M, India
Yes, it is possible that this could all be complete BS...I realize that...anything is possible. But it's highly unlikely. AP has been around too long and too many people use their stuff and most people are pretty happy about it.
I don't know if you said or not...haven't been around here in awhile, but have you ever actually used any AP gear?
Dude it is great to have you back to the boards. I hope you stick around. Regarding Alpha Pharma, a few people have confirmed that their products can not be found in India and I have yet to find out from anyone where exactly they are licensed by the country's FDA and found in pharmacies.
Now, I am not saying AP isnt HG and I am not saying it isnt great stuff. Not at all. It just would be nice to put the whole debate to rest and know the truth. Especially given Body of Science found high amounts of bacteria in the Stano.
On a side note, they changed thier amp design, so I've read, and instead of having silk screen writing, they are using a paper label. Has anyone tried this new revision?
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Dude it is great to have you back to the boards. I hope you stick around. Regarding Alpha Pharma, a few people have confirmed that their products can not be found in India and I have yet to find out from anyone where exactly they are licensed by the country's FDA and found in pharmacies.
Now, I am not saying AP isnt HG and I am not saying it isnt great stuff. Not at all. It just would be nice to put the whole debate to rest and know the truth. Especially given Body of Science found high amounts of bacteria in the Stano.
On a side note, they changed thier amp design, so I've read, and instead of having silk screen writing, they are using a paper label. Has anyone tried this new revision?
According to the AP website, they are licensed in Bangkok, Thailand...not India.
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look like shrek is piser for alpha pharma gear. wait new ugl book coming...and alpha pharma is there. alpa pharma is never human! they never show any GMP,and never show how its made,etc..since its ugl!
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look like shrek is piser for alpha pharma gear. wait new ugl book coming...and alpha pharma is there. alpa pharma is never human! they never show any GMP,and never show how its made,etc..since its ugl!
What are you talking about? They never show GMP? All they do is show it.
And for the record, I have no advantage in touting or promoting AP. If it was crap I'd say you're right, it's crap. But there's nothing wrong with it...it's good gear.
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What are you talking about? They never show GMP? All they do is show it.
And for the record, I have no advantage in touting or promoting AP. If it was crap I'd say you're right, it's crap. But there's nothing wrong with it...it's good gear.
dexterJ thinks everything is crap except asia pharma which he claims is human grade ::) he goes on every site spamming that overpriced snake oil!
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I DONT ADVERTISE ANYBODY!!!!
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i have seen the same broken english (similiar to dexterj) poster on MULTIPLE boards doing the exact same thing by spamming us with asia pharma bullcrap and conveniently providing a direct link to purchase also
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sorry i post only on getbig and i am registered only here!you are wrong.
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sorry i post only on getbig and i am registered only here!you are wrong.
then how about we make a deal, you agree to stop bashing any brand period. we all get it, u like Asia Pharma (and I dont have anything against that), but we dont need to hear that anymore. Ok? I think that is fair. I bet you'll get a lot more respect by just helping others with general NON brand specific info and staying neutral toward any other brand.
Best of luck to you
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i have seen the same broken english (similiar to dexterj) poster on MULTIPLE boards doing the exact same thing by spamming us with asia pharma bullcrap and conveniently providing a direct link to purchase also
Yes your right the fake broken english is a cover. And the links to gear purchase sites are not by accident.
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alpha pharma is legid.
didnt ap send a lawsuit to bos for false claims of being an ugl?
so would a ugl send a lawsuit? no. so its a real company
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sorry i post only on getbig and i am registered only here!you are wrong.
fucking liar, ive seen you post on other boards as 'mrdexj' or something, exactly the same shit you do here, please fuck off you moron ::)
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On a side note, they changed thier amp design, so I've read, and instead of having silk screen writing, they are using a paper label. Has anyone tried this new revision?
From what I've heard the new test-e amps seem to be going over well. I've only talked to 5 or 6 people who've used them but no complaints from them yet and they're not idiots who wouldn't know any better.
For guys that haven't used their Stanozolol yet, IMO it's one of the better ones I've ever used. Plus, you can actually inject it without pain...ain't that special.
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ALPHA PHARMA BASED IN MUMBAI INDIA DID HIRE A LAWYER. There products are legit and work very well. As far as asia pharma is a knock off name of Alpha pharma. I cant speak for there products but heard they were in thailand. Go with Alpha Pharma.. There is a very good guy who can get you some
From what I've heard the new test-e amps seem to be going over well. I've only talked to 5 or 6 people who've used them but no complaints from them yet and they're not idiots who wouldn't know any better.
For guys that haven't used their Stanozolol yet, IMO it's one of the better ones I've ever used. Plus, you can actually inject it without pain...ain't that special.
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I'm currently running there test e and winstrol and its good shit...will continue to use them
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alpha-pharma is gh15 approved..
thus it's LEGIT.
no discussion.
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i Have in the past And an right now running their test e the only time i get a little soreness is the first time Or two i hit a muscle....i know their deca test e nd winnie are all good products Idk what some of you guys are talking About with It being so painful
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I am coming to take Parabolin from alpha pharma, who try ? it is painfull, it is good tren?
thanks
bea
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I am coming to take Parabolin from alpha pharma, who try ? it is painfull, it is good tren?
thanks
bea
you should just take tren a its hella cheaper
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I used Alpha pharma once.
it was painless.
I also didn't felt shit, gave some to my buddies for their first cycle and they didn't gain 1 pound
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Wow that's crazy because all I've been doing the last two years is alpha pharm and I love it
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Same here. I am built by AP. They even have eq now. I wish they had higher concentration deca and tren e
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Same here. I am built by AP. They even have eq now. I wish they had higher concentration deca and tren e
Did you really just say that? ::)
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Its no secret everyone here knows i love AP...if you say its painful or no good then you Got fake/counterfeit gear or have never used It....i love alphaPharma products
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im looking at the 9th edition of the anabolics book and in the apedix a-9 is alpha pharma (located in the drug availability chart by country).
dexterj, you have been owned. ap is human grade.
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you should just take tren a its hella cheaper
Yes friend but I don't have tren a, and I am over 40 and I have take some years ago the ""real parabolan" from france, for me the number one tren, if parabolin is the same it is fantastic.
I never try alpha pharma , some said Humans labs some Underground, I have see in BOS forum william llewellyn sait it is real labs, and in the same forum, Ronny Tober who speak with a man who ask what is better, alpha pharma tren or Hard core labs tren , Ronny(who write undergrounds anabolics with llewellyn) said it is the same, the two are underground...
Bea
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Wow that's crazy because all I've been doing the last two years is alpha pharm and I love it
maybe I had fakes or something, but it seems doubtful since it's not a "big" compagny ?
but all the amps didn't have the same lenght and when I put the all together their shape looked a bit different and the oil level wasn't even in each amp.
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""but all the amps didn't have the same lenght and when I put the all together their shape looked a bit different and the oil level wasn't even in each amp"""
The same for me bro
bea
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alpha is not ug.
Alpha-Pharma Healthcare
B205, Universal Business Park
Off Saki Vihar Road, Chandivali
Mumbai 400072, India
Main.: +91-2242911000
Fax.: +91-2242911001
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maybe I had fakes or something, but it seems doubtful since it's not a "big" compagny ?
but all the amps didn't have the same lenght and when I put the all together their shape looked a bit different and the oil level wasn't even in each amp.
There is a counterfeit lab producing AlphaPharm...about 18 months ago or so, the real AP issued several statements regarding this counterfeit lab.
The real AP did change it's amps about a year ago, so there may could easily end up getting different looking amps that are both real AP but I would imagine by now most of the old amps are gone...but there could still be some of the old ones floating around out there.
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There is a counterfeit lab producing AlphaPharm...about 18 months ago or so, the real AP issued several statements regarding this counterfeit lab.
The real AP did change it's amps about a year ago, so there may could easily end up getting different looking amps that are both real AP but I would imagine by now most of the old amps are gone...but there could still be some of the old ones floating around out there.
yeah that was last year if I remember well in the winter.
maybe they were fake, I am not the expert on HG gear !
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I make my first parabolin yesteday no pain I am going to see is I sleep good, if difficult to sleep it is real tren, my batch is
exp date 07/2011
Bn pb -8001
mfg dt 08/2008
bea
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alpha is not ug.
Alpha-Pharma Healthcare
B205, Universal Business Park
Off Saki Vihar Road, Chandivali
Mumbai 400072, India
Main.: +91-2242911000
Fax.: +91-2242911001
It is underground, it's just a front, anyone can register a lab in India or Moldova, LOL
it may be a semi-legit operation but will never compare to a company like Schering, Bayer, Pfizer, etc.
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I liked AP test just as much as I like schering so I would have to disagree
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Never tried AP, just stick with amps for Test
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AP test only comes in amps
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AP test only comes in amps
Oops...Honestly I have no experience with them. To each their own. I like my Scherings :D