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On Thursday, President Obama will welcome the Pittsburgh Steelers to the White House to honor the team for its recent Super Bowl victory. But, just like in 2006 when the Steelers had a post-title meeting with George W. Bush, defensive MVP (and Super Bowl hero) James Harrison won't be in attendance. But he has a good reason:
"This is how I feel -- if you want to see the Pittsburgh Steelers, invite us when we don't win the Super Bowl. As far as I'm concerned, he [Obama] would've invited Arizona if they had won."
Usually, when a sentence begins with "as far as I'm concerned," it ends with an opinion, not an incontrovertible fact. Harrison's comment is akin to saying, "As far as I'm concerned, George Washington was the first president."
Of course the Cards would have received the White House invite if they had won. Winners get to go meet the president, losers don't. They also get the trophy, the parade and those hats that say "Super Bowl champs". I don't think James Harrison(notes) turned down any of those things, which makes his refusal to go to the White House a tad hypocritical.
When Harrison won the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year award, he didn't decline and say, "As far as I'm was concerned, they would've given this award to someone else if they had had a better defensive season than me." And when he scored that touchdown in the Super Bowl after returning an interception 100 yards, I'm pretty sure Harrison didn't tell the ref to take the points off the board because, as far as he was concerned, if Larry Fitzgerald(notes) had caught him, Harrison wouldn't have scored.
As far as I'm concerned, James Harrison is sort of a fool. If he doesn't want to go to the White House, fine. (Although I can't imagine why anybody wouldn't want to meet the President of the United States.) But don't make a lame excuse in an attempt to justify your decision. Leave that for NFL referees.
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On Thursday, President Obama will welcome the Pittsburgh Steelers to the White House to honor the team for its recent Super Bowl victory. But, just like in 2006 when the Steelers had a post-title meeting with George W. Bush, defensive MVP (and Super Bowl hero) James Harrison won't be in attendance. But he has a good reason:
"This is how I feel -- if you want to see the Pittsburgh Steelers, invite us when we don't win the Super Bowl. As far as I'm concerned, he [Obama] would've invited Arizona if they had won."
Usually, when a sentence begins with "as far as I'm concerned," it ends with an opinion, not an incontrovertible fact. Harrison's comment is akin to saying, "As far as I'm concerned, George Washington was the first president."
Of course the Cards would have received the White House invite if they had won. Winners get to go meet the president, losers don't. They also get the trophy, the parade and those hats that say "Super Bowl champs". I don't think James Harrison(notes) turned down any of those things, which makes his refusal to go to the White House a tad hypocritical.
When Harrison won the NFL's Defensive Player of the Year award, he didn't decline and say, "As far as I'm was concerned, they would've given this award to someone else if they had had a better defensive season than me." And when he scored that touchdown in the Super Bowl after returning an interception 100 yards, I'm pretty sure Harrison didn't tell the ref to take the points off the board because, as far as he was concerned, if Larry Fitzgerald(notes) had caught him, Harrison wouldn't have scored.
As far as I'm concerned, James Harrison is sort of a fool. If he doesn't want to go to the White House, fine. (Although I can't imagine why anybody wouldn't want to meet the President of the United States.) But don't make a lame excuse in an attempt to justify your decision. Leave that for NFL referees.
As far as I'm concerned, James Harrison should have been ejected from the superbowl for the 3-4 punches he threw at that Cardinals player on special teams....
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As far as I'm concerned, James Harrison should have been ejected from the superbowl for the 3-4 punches he threw at that Cardinals player on special teams....
it wouldn't have made a difference if he was ejected, but he wouldn't have PUSHED the cardinals player if he didn't go for his balls
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As far as I'm concerned, James Harrison is sort of a fool. If he doesn't want to go to the White House, fine. (Although I can't imagine why anybody wouldn't want to meet the President of the United States.) But don't make a lame excuse in an attempt to justify your decision. Leave that for NFL referees.
Yep. Agree.
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it wouldn't have made a difference if he was ejected, but he wouldn't have PUSHED the cardinals player if he didn't go for his balls
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haha, "PUSHED?" classic Earl.....
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I'm a Die Hard Steeler Fan (over 30 years), a proud Obama supporter, and WAS a James Harrison fan.
This makes no sense - as if the POTUS has time to meet with all 32 NFL teams even if they don't win the Superbowl,
or even make it to the playoffs. The guy has a major case of hubris. I would have rather him made a stance ON a political
or moral issue than this. If he didn't want to see Bush because of the Iraq War, that would be one thing. If he didn't want
to see the president over his abortion stance, again yet another thing.
He's on my team, so I'll root for him, but he's embarrased the Steelers - especially Rooney, who endorsed, and publically thanked Obama after the win, and Black people, who've prayed and struggled to see such a turn in American history as was Obama's election to President.
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Seriously.....who gives a flying fuck whether he goes or not?
He's probably too busy working on his 5th kid in as many baby's mamas.
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the thing with harrison is he still has the "me against the world" mentality
he had some bad experiences as a kid that gave him trust issues, as a football player he was always doubted because of his size
this is a guy that played at low level kent state probably because of his size and was cut once by the ravens and several times by the steelers, he would be out of the league if clark haggans never broke his hand lifting weights back in camp 04, he will always have a chip on his shoulder
now he is rich and has made his mark in the league, he looks down on people that all of a sudden want to put him on a pedestal
it's like the kid that never got invited to parties, then that kid becomes rich and famous and all the kids suddenly want to be his friend, where were these people when he needed them?
that's how he looks at the white house invite, he thinks it's a frontrunner type of situation
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Seriously.....who gives a flying fuck whether he goes or not?
He's probably too busy working on his 5th kid in as many baby's mamas.
haha maybe he wants to work out that day
he was training for the next season two days after the last one ended
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haha maybe he wants to work out that day
he was training for the next season two days after the last one ended
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He is a monster but getting long in the tooth, age-wise. His production may drop off now that he has the big contract. We'll see.
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He is a monster but getting long in the tooth, age-wise. His production may drop off now that he has the big contract. We'll see.
he's 30 and don't forget he didn't become a starter until the 07 season, that makes him young compared to a 30 year old linebacker that's been starting since his 1st or 2nd year
if his production drops off, it won't be because of money
that chip on his shoulder is more than enough motivation
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he's 30 and don't forget he didn't become a starter until the 07 season, that makes him young compared to a 30 year old linebacker that's been starting since his 1st or 2nd year
if his production drops off, it won't be because of money
that chip on his shoulder is more than enough motivation
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Soon to be 31 but who's counting.....
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He's juiced to the gills. Everyone is.
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He's juiced to the gills. Everyone is.
think so? im not so sure, not including HGH of course but i would think they could detect anything else through tests. as for HGH i havent heard of too many people getting busted, the only one that comes to mind is Harrison and he got busted not for testing positive but by the way he purchased it if i remember correctly? i only remember cause he was the best player to have been caught to my recollection. not Pats bashing..yet
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he's 30 and don't forget he didn't become a starter until the 07 season, that makes him young compared to a 30 year old linebacker that's been starting since his 1st or 2nd year
if his production drops off, it won't be because of money
that chip on his shoulder is more than enough motivation
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Harrison is no Ray Lewis
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Harrison is no Ray Lewis
that's true, ray started at a young age
harrison started late and will have fresh legs and less wear and tear 8)
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that's true, ray started at a young age
harrison started late and will have fresh legs and less wear and tear 8)
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didnt ray play in a 4-3 for the better part of his career?
i know playing lb in a 3-4 is going to be a lot more grueling than in a 4-3 where you can roam free more often.
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think so? im not so sure, not including HGH of course but i would think they could detect anything else through tests. as for HGH i havent heard of too many people getting busted, the only one that comes to mind is Harrison and he got busted not for testing positive but by the way he purchased it if i remember correctly? i only remember cause he was the best player to have been caught to my recollection. not Pats bashing..yet
That's because there isn't a test that accurately tests for it as of yet. But there will be one day, you better believe that. And once there is, some big names in the NFL will drop like flies. In all major sports, actually.
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That's because there isn't a test that accurately tests for it as of yet. But there will be one day, you better believe that. And once there is, some big names in the NFL will drop like flies. In all major sports, actually.
i know there isnt a test for hgh, call me ignorant but i was just hoping perhaps the NFL with their strict policy would have less bad apples than the MLB. considering all things they can test for everything else, is it just hgh that they could be taking?
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i know there isnt a test for hgh, call me ignorant but i was just hoping perhaps the NFL with their strict policy would have less bad apples than the MLB. considering all things they can test for everything else, is it just hgh that they could be taking?
The only NFL players that have been busted for HGH are the geniuses that leave a paper trail when buying it. How can anyone forget certifiable genuis Rodney Harrison, geting caught for buying HGH with a check?
The only reason he admitted to using it was because he was caught buying it with a check. I would say that over 70% of NFL players take HGH.
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Seriously.....who gives a flying fuck whether he goes or not?
He's probably too busy working on his 5th kid in as many baby's mamas.
amazing...How did you come to that conclusion
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Seriously.....who gives a flying fuck whether he goes or not?
He's probably too busy working on his 5th kid in as many baby's mamas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harrison_(American_football)
He has one child, James Harrison III, born in 2007.[21]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harrison_(American_football)
He has one child, James Harrison III, born in 2007.[21]
I was fucking around, dude. It was a harmless generalization. Shit....Ray Lewis has 6 kids from 2 different mothers.
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James Harrison is an idiot although I wish I were him making millions and winning superbowls.
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James Harrison is an idiot although I wish I were him making millions and winning superbowls.
yes...his publisist should tell him to never speak to the press..just put quarterbacks on their asses and the millions will roll in
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His perogative. Why make a big deal about it.
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His perogative. Why make a big deal about it.
If he said it behind closed doors ok. He said it so it was heard nationally. Thats asking for peoples opinions. Harrison is dumber than a sack of rocks anyway.
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If he said it behind closed doors ok. He said it so it was heard nationally. Thats asking for peoples opinions. Harrison is dumber than a sack of rocks anyway.
Ask Kent State how smart he is ;D
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If he said it behind closed doors ok. He said it so it was heard nationally. Thats asking for peoples opinions. Harrison is dumber than a sack of rocks anyway.
Not as dumb as paying for his GH with a personal check.
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didnt ray play in a 4-3 for the better part of his career?
i know playing lb in a 3-4 is going to be a lot more grueling than in a 4-3 where you can roam free more often.
Murder Ray ran the 3-4 in the early 2000's. Wasnt very effective. I think its crazy that these coaches take a player that has been playing "this" for like 20 years (including pop warner and prep and college) and then try to put him in "that" and he is gonna play better...It dosent work. I see it with middles in the 3-4 the most. You cant take a 4-3 middle and make him a 3-4 middle in less than 2 seasons. And thats with crazy film room dedication. It wont happen. Different reads. different linemen fireing off on you. Remember when Ny Jets tried to run that with vilma. He vanished. The same thing with Big safeties, makin them outside linebackers...no it aint gonna happen. A safety sees the game differently. what ever is gonna happen is gonna take like 4-5 seconds. But at linebacker, whatever happens is gonna happen at 2-3 seconds. Reaction time is all different. Tommie Davis (safety from ga now lb) did it alright at Carolina but thats it. REmember Larry Atkins from UCLA..he was like the first big ass safety (6'3 235) well he hit like a mack truck but covered like one too. So they move him to lber thinking he was gonna be a fast lber...well he spent 4 years in the leauge and had 9 tackles. Oh what about Darnell Bing. He was a big safety out of usc..he moved to outside when he hit the raiders now what 4 teams in 3 years. A lot of coaches think this is madden sometimes.