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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Deicide on May 20, 2009, 04:27:39 AM
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Let's face it, there is no such thing as truly natural: creatin with waxy maize, ultra filtered 100% whey isolate, 5 component protein, multivitamins, NO products, glucosamine tablets, etc. What is natural about any of this? The only way you could be natural is if all you did was eat normal food and train. There are NO NATURALS in any real sense of the word and that is a fact, gear is just another unnatural thing among many.
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There are many naturals, but it's just that you have no idea they train until they tell you. :)
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Idiot, steak has a good amount of creatin in it..so if one guy eats more steak than the other guy then he is not natural? ::)
you are a piece of total garbage, why not spend the time in the end gym instead of starting useless threads?
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no such thing as natural bodybuilding
hormones are not a bad thing either
its all about perspectives
nothing is equal in sports anyway e.g. coaching, genetics, environment, socioeconomic status, culture, family, religion
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Idiot, steak has a good amount of creatin in it..so if one guy eats more steak than the other guy then he is not natural? ::)
you are a piece of total garbage, why not spend the time in the end gym instead of starting useless threads?
The extraction process is not natural and what about all the other things I mentioned? On a molecular level synthetic testosterone is also natural as it is identical to the 'real stuff'.
It's fine if you don't want discussion but the fact is that there is no such thing as a REAL natural.
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natural = food + food replacements (includes creatine, aminos, etc.)
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Let's face it, there is no such thing as truly natural: creatin with waxy maize, ultra filtered 100% whey isolate, 5 component protein, multivitamins, NO products, glucosamine tablets, etc. What is natural about any of this? The only way you could be natural is if all you did was eat normal food and train. There are NO NATURALS in any real sense of the word and that is a fact, gear is just another unnatural thing among many.
None of that stuff even works anyways, if you were happy with yourself you wouldnt try to bring the rest of the world down and call them unnatural cause they were trying these legal products. The problem lies with attaining happyness for yourself then teach others. You cant teach others to do it right naturally if you cant first on your own, when u do u just sound angry and like you have given up. Dont give up we are all on the same team trying to do it right, face the facts very few have done it right naturally, the some that do only have one part or the other of the equation right (being only ripped with no size or vice versa)
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natural = food + food replacements (includes creatine, aminos, etc.)
Extracted and compressed amino tabs? Very natural...I am talking really natural schnitzelman.
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Extracted and compressed amino tabs? Very natural...I am talking really natural schnitzelman.
its just amino acids, do you realize ALL foods are amino acids? Maybe not always the right combo of them but they are simply amino acids in everything
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Let's face it, there is no such thing as truly natural: creatin with waxy maize, ultra filtered 100% whey isolate, 5 component protein, multivitamins, NO products, glucosamine tablets, etc. What is natural about any of this? The only way you could be natural is if all you did was eat normal food and train. There are NO NATURALS in any real sense of the word and that is a fact, gear is just another unnatural thing among many.
says the man who envy's the man who trains hard and actually looks good while you sit and stew about who is natural ::) and tries to pick out the ones on juice
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says the man who envy's the man who trains hard and actually looks good while you sit and stew about who is natural ::) and tries to pick out the ones on juice
Hardly. I think roids are great. I never criticised anyone for juicing.
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None of that stuff even works anyways, if you were happy with yourself you wouldnt try to bring the rest of the world down and call them unnatural cause they were trying these legal products. The problem lies with attaining happyness for yourself then teach others. You cant teach others to do it right naturally if you cant first on your own, when u do u just sound angry and like you have given up. Dont give up we are all on the same team trying to do it right, face the facts very few have done it right naturally, the some that do only have one part or the other of the equation right (being only ripped with no size or vice versa)
well said
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None of that stuff even works anyways, if you were happy with yourself you wouldnt try to bring the rest of the world down and call them unnatural cause they were trying these legal products. The problem lies with attaining happyness for yourself then teach others. You cant teach others to do it right naturally if you cant first on your own, when u do u just sound angry and like you have given up. Dont give up we are all on the same team trying to do it right, face the facts very few have done it right naturally, the some that do only have one part or the other of the equation right (being only ripped with no size or vice versa)
Deicide: I really want to root for you and encourage you to just train hard, train smart, eat right, and do your thing. But you are so negative all the time, and mostly it comes down to yourself and not being happy and satisfied with your bodybuilding results. Be proud more of the process and knowing that you're giving it your all in the gym (if in fact you are giving it your all; not sure) rather than putting yourself down due to "bad genetics", etc. Lifting weights is such a small part of life man; just give it your all like you should be doing in all other aspects of life; true happiness will result. And before you know it, you will progress more with your physique than you expected. Going to the gym is more than just about lifting weights -- it's a personal challenge with yourself to outdo your last workout, and then get out and enjoy the rest of the day and life in general; at least that's how I look at things.
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Deicide: I really want to root for you and encourage you to just train hard, train smart, eat right, and do your thing. But you are so negative all the time, and mostly it comes down to yourself and not being happy and satisfied with your bodybuilding results. Be proud more of the process and knowing that you're giving it your all in the gym (if in fact you are giving it your all; not sure) rather than putting yourself down due to "bad genetics", etc. Lifting weights is such a small part of life man; just give it your all like you should be doing in all other aspects of life; true happiness will result. And before you know it, you will progress more with your physique than you expected. Going to the gym is more than just about lifting weights -- it's a personal challenge with yourself to outdo your last workout, and then get out and enjoy the rest of the day and life in general; at least that's how I look at things.
again well said....
there's more to life than muscles.... just enjoy life lift and enjoy the gradual results...
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most of us are fucked in the genetics department, it is how it is, appreciate more of what you achieve.
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All I do is eat and train, no supplements at all, am I not natural? As far as I'm concerned anyone who is not using illegal drugs is natural enough to compete in a natural show. On the other hand, these things you are talking about are definitely not natural in the sense that you are using the word.
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most of us are fucked in the genetics department, it is how it is, appreciate more of what you achieve.
Mars, je bent de overmens!
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Let's face it, there is no such thing as truly natural: creatin with waxy maize, ultra filtered 100% whey isolate, 5 component protein, multivitamins, NO products, glucosamine tablets, etc. What is natural about any of this? The only way you could be natural is if all you did was eat normal food and train. There are NO NATURALS in any real sense of the word and that is a fact, gear is just another unnatural thing among many.
There are artificial substances in practically all food today. Preservatives, sweeteners, coloring agents ect. What = natural about food ???
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Mars, je bent de overmens!
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2igyhj9.jpg)
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most of us are fucked in the genetics department, it is how it is, appreciate more of what you achieve.
These words will forever resonate with me in my mind. The greatest words ever written on getbig.
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What is "Natural" about lifting weights and dieting in pursuit of strength you will never use and a physique stays covered most of the time?
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What is "Natural" about lifting weights and dieting in pursuit of strength you will never use and a physique stays covered most of the time?
Strength can be very useful for athletes.
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Strength can be very useful for athletes.
I agree. But the average person in a gym or a fitness club is not an athlete and most of them could care less about their health. The majority of the people are there for strength and appearance and living a life that requires neither.
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this whole thread is BULLSHIT
I'M NATURAL
...then again, it doesn't take much to be a 161 pound muscle twink
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this whole thread is BULLSHIT
I'M NATURAL
...then again, it doesn't take much to be a 161 pound muscle twink
EXACTLY and NO ONE wants to see a natural bodybuilder on stage either people go to see the freaks
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I agree. But the average person in a gym or a fitness club is not an athlete and most of them could care less about their health. The majority of the people are there for strength and appearance and living a life that requires neither.
They are there to improve their appearance in order to enhance their abilities to find a mate and thus reproduce to further their genes. It doesn't get more natural than that my man. We no longer have the option of killing a mastodon to show our manliness.
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EXACTLY and NO ONE wants to see a natural bodybuilder on stage either people go to see the freaks
I agree 100 percent
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this whole thread is BULLSHIT
I'M NATURAL
...then again, it doesn't take much to be a 161 pound muscle twink
haha..you're still a good 20 pounds away from being a true 'Muscle twink'
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They are there to improve their appearance in order to enhance their abilities to find a mate and thus reproduce to further their genes. It doesn't get more natural than that my man. We no longer have the option of killing a mastodon to show our manliness.
That may be true for the single and looking crowd,what about the rest? I was just saying that this whole "Natural" thing in this case is being taken literally. Pretty much every aspect of our existence has been modified or manufactured in some way so what is natural then? I think most expressions and titles are inaccurate if taken literally.
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haha..you're still a good 20 pounds away from being a true 'Muscle twink'
seriously
so, am i just a plain twink
see, i don't have a "twink attitude" so, at the very least, i think i can classify as a "muscle boi", no?
gay guys on the forum please chime in
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seriously
so, am i just a plain twink
see, i don't have a "twink attitude" so, at the very least, i think i can classify as a "muscle boi", no?
gay guys on the forum please chime in
problem is you don't have any muscle. :D
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problem is you don't have any muscle. :D
then again, i doesn't take much muscle to be me......
....i don't have to devote a portion of my day to beating my wife the woman i sponge off of
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then again, i doesn't take much muscle to be me......
....i don't have to devote a portion of my day to beating my wife the woman i sponge off of
of course not, you'd never have a wife or woman because you're gay as evidenced by your infamous "bottoms up" pic. ;D
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Original point of the thread: saying that hormones are 'not natural' and everything else is, is just an arbitrary declaration.
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of course not, you'd never have a wife or woman because you're gay as evidenced by your infamous "bottoms up" pic. ;D
Says the guy who has said pic on his hard drive. Any idea what irony is, Squad?
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Idiot, steak has a good amount of creatin in it..so if one guy eats more steak than the other guy then he is not natural? ::)
you are a piece of total garbage, why not spend the time in the end gym instead of starting useless threads?
I agree with you 150% Red Hook...this guy is a weak minded bitch - always bitching, making excuses for his sorry self - pathetic.
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of course not, you'd never have a wife or woman because you're gay as evidenced by your infamous "bottoms up" pic. ;D
lol at my pic being saved on your computer
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I agree with you 150% Red Hook...this guy is a weak minded bitch - always bitching, making excuses for his sorry self - pathetic.
You are just oh soooo cool....
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Extracted and compressed amino tabs? Very natural...I am talking really natural schnitzelman.
As long as the same process is done in a human being, it makes no difference.
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Ik houd van jou!
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Deicide is the biggest downer and most self-pitying SOB on these boards. Just get on some real steroids and get it over with.
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I grow all my own food.
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Deicide is the biggest downer and most self-pitying SOB on these boards. Just get on some real steroids and get it over with.
I love you man!
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Let's face it, there is no such thing as truly natural: creatin with waxy maize, ultra filtered 100% whey isolate, 5 component protein, multivitamins, NO products, glucosamine tablets, etc. What is natural about any of this? The only way you could be natural is if all you did was eat normal food and train. There are NO NATURALS in any real sense of the word and that is a fact, gear is just another unnatural thing among many.
Stop trying to justify your crappy physique.
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Stop trying to justify your crappy physique.
You are a god! :o :o :o
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You are a god! :o :o :o
And you're looking for a reason not to workout. Tell you what, nobody is natural but you. They're all juiced to the gills and the only way to diet down and get a decent physique is by taking copious amounts of steroids. Is that what you want to hear? ::)
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And you're looking for a reason not to workout. Tell you what, nobody is natural but you. They're all juiced to the gills and the only way to diet down and get a decent physique is by taking copious amounts of steroids. Is that what you want to hear? ::)
No, I want to hear more about YOUR divinity! YOURS MY LORD!
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Natural, shnatural, bla, bla...
It's summer in the city and today I am SPITZ WIE LUMPI !!!!
Yippie ;D
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Natural, shnatural, bla, bla...
It's summer in the city and today I am SPITZ WIE LUMPI !!!!
Yippie ;D
Hahaha, I just imagined you saying that with a swiss accent :D
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Without her handcuffed, this pic is useless.