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http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/4-arrested-in-new-york-terror-plot/?hp
May 20, 2009, 10:55 pm
4 Arrested in New York Terror Plot
By Sewell Chan
Updated, 11:14 p.m. | Federal authorities arrested four men on Wednesday night on charges of plotting to bomb a synagogue in the Riverdale section of the Bronx and to use antiaircraft missiles to shoot down military planes at a military base in Newburgh, N.Y., 60 miles north of New York City.
The charges, which include conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction in the United States and conspiracy to acquire and use anti-aircraft missiles, represent some of the most significant allegations of domestic terrorism in some time, and come months into a new presidential administration, as President Obama grapples with the question of how to handle detainees at the Guantánamo camp in Cuba.
The four defendants — whom federal authorities identified as James Cromitie, David Williams, Onta Williams and Laguerre Payen, all of Newburgh, in Orange County — are expected to appear in Federal District Court in White Plains, in Westchester County, on Thursday morning.
Though Mr. Cromitie, who is described as the lead defendant, is said to have told an F.B.I. informant that he had ties with Jaish-e-Muhammad, a jihadist group based in Pakistan, none of the defendants actually obtained weapons of mass destruction, according to the authorities.
Documents
• Text: Criminal Complaint (pdf)
• Text: U.S. Attorney’s Office Press Release (pdf)
According to the criminal complaint, Mr. Cromitie met the informant last June, and told the informant that his parents had lived in Afghanistan and that he was upset about the deaths of Muslims at the hands of United States military forces in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Mr. Cromitie expressed interest in returning to Afghanistan and said that if he were to die a martyr he would go to paradise, according the complaint, which accuses Mr. Cromitie of threatening to do “something to America.”
In July, according to the complaint, Mr. Cromitie and the informant discussed Jaish-e-Muhammad, and Mr. Cromitie claimed to be involved with the militant organization.
Starting in October, the informant began meeting Mr. Cromitie in a house in Newburgh that the F.B.I. had equipped with concealed video and audio equipment, the according to the complaint. In several meetings at that house, Mr. Cromitie and the other defendants discussed their desire to attack the synagogue and to shoot down military aircraft at the Air National Guard Base in Newburgh.
Mr. Cromitie “asked the informant to supply surface-to-air guided missiles and explosives for the planned operations,” and the informant told Mr. Cromitie that he could provide him with C-4 plastic explosives, the complaint states.
Lev L. Dassin, the acting United States attorney in Manhattan, said in a statement on Wednesday night that “the defendants wanted to engage in terrorist attacks.”
He added: “They selected targets and sought the weapons necessary to carry out their plans. Fortunately, the defendants sought the assistance of a witness cooperating with the government. While the weapons provided to the defendants by the cooperating witness were fake, the defendants thought they were absolutely real.”
Political leaders responded to the news of the arrests with statements expressing relief.
“While the bombs these terrorists attempted to plant tonight were – unbeknownst to them – fake, this latest attempt to attack our freedoms shows that the homeland security threats against New York City are sadly all too real and underscores why we must remain vigilant in our efforts to prevent terrorism,” Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg said in a statement.
Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York, said in a statement that he had spoken with the New York office of the F.B.I. and Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly.
“They have told me they have been monitoring this group for sometime and that the men arrested did not have any connection to other terrorists,” Mr. Schumer said in a statement. “This incident shows that we must always be vigilant against terrorism foreign or domestic.”
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Come out here INSOMNIA!!! <mighty mouse voice> I'll save you!!! </mighty mouse voice>
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wow.. grew up off 233rd in riverdale
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are you ok sweety??
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Nude pics (of you)...or it didn't happen....
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Hope all is well with INSOMNIA. :)
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thanks guys.. this is a bit too close to home :(
letter from my kids school today:
Dear *** Families,
As you are already aware, there was a foiled bombing attempt against two of our local synagogues on Wednesday night. Thankfully, no one was hurt, and the men involved were immediately taken into custody by police and FBI agents.
We want to assure everyone that school is running on schedule today, and while you may continue to see increased police activity outside, this is to insure everyone's safety, and to keep the flow of traffic and pedestrians smooth, especially with the presence of a number of news trucks.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call the school.
not just one but 2.. i still dont know which ones. scary.
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thanks guys.. this is a bit too close to home :(
letter from my kids school today:
Dear *** Families,
As you are already aware, there was a foiled bombing attempt against two of our local synagogues on Wednesday night. Thankfully, no one was hurt, and the men involved were immediately taken into custody by police and FBI agents.
We want to assure everyone that school is running on schedule today, and while you may continue to see increased police activity outside, this is to insure everyone's safety, and to keep the flow of traffic and pedestrians smooth, especially with the presence of a number of news trucks.
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call the school.
not just one but 2.. i still dont know which ones. scary.
:o
Looks like they are doing their best to keep you all safe. Still, be aware and take care of yourselves!
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There's something fishy about the whole story.
NEWBURGH, N.Y. – The four men were ex-convicts who envisioned themselves as holy warriors, ambitious enough to concoct a plot to blow up synagogues and military planes, authorities said. But they were amateurs every step of the way. They had trouble finding guns and bought cameras at Wal-Mart to photograph their targets. One was a convicted purse snatcher, another smoked marijuana the day the plot was to be carried out
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_on_re_us/us_temple_plot
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“It was fully controlled at all times,” a law enforcement official said.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026884.html#more
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Toronto_terrorism_case
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/29/fort-dix-terror-attack-sentencing
Reading stuff on the Internet makes me think this case was a set up.
So, what's next?
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“It was fully controlled at all times,” a law enforcement official said.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026884.html#more
hmmm, interesting stuff! fishy indeed...thanks for posting
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“It was fully controlled at all times,” a law enforcement official said.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/026884.html#more
What would they do? Inform these guys that the FBI and law enforcement are watching them and let them go about their merry way when they realize they'll go to jail if they follow through with it? Kind of defeats the purpose.
"Hey, we're watching you plan a terrorist attack but we figured we would tell you so you can avoid jail time. Hat's off for wanting to kill innocent people, though. Have fun with your life." ::)
You really go above and beyond in proving that you're one of the dumber posters on here.
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You really go above and beyond in proving that you're one of the dumber posters on here.
Don't worry, kid, you're still the dumbest. :D
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Don't worry, kid, you're still the dumbest. :D
Considering your retarded posts, it's not surprising that you're confused.
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Considering your retarded posts, it's not surprising that you're confused.
How can you tell that somebody is confused, while you yourself are confused? :)
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How can you tell that somebody is confused, while you yourself are confused? :)
Well, you calling me the dumbest would lead me to believe that you're confused or retarded. Feel free to answer that for me.
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Well, you calling me the dumbest would lead me to believe that you're confused or retarded. Feel free to answer that for me.
I almost feel sorry for you. You're eyes are open, but you see nothing. You see nothing, because like many Americans, you're hopelessly brainwashed. That's all.
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I almost feel sorry for you. You're eyes are open, but you see nothing. You see nothing, because like many Americans, you're hopelessly brainwashed. That's all.
Yawn, and here goes the Eurotrash with his typical response. You = retarded. I've watched you post all over this board and 99% of what you post is pure, unsubstantiated shit. But yes, you're another one who's "in the know". ::)
I truly believe that the Europeans on here are the dumbest posters Getbig has to offer.
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I almost feel sorry for you. You're eyes are open, but you see nothing. You see nothing, because like many Americans, you're hopelessly brainwashed. That's all.
Oorlog tussen die USA en die Nederlanden? :-\ ???