Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: The True Adonis on May 22, 2009, 04:08:56 PM
-
;)
-
Awesome!
Obama is down with the hand guns... That's fantastic.
-
LIBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:(
-
great move here
-
interesting
-
interesting
Mexicans
-
i just read up on it a little. It seems repubs managed to sneak this in the new credit card reg. bill
just to keep it in perspectivea<------------ i didnt watch thie vid incase it explains that.
-
LOL like 2nd said this isnt really obama passing the new gun law its obama passing the credit card bill with this attached to it...Still ill take it thats one of the reasons i dont really like to go hiking, i mean hiking where you go out for a few days and hike and camp b/c if a animal was to attack youre pretty much screwed.
-
LOL like 2nd said this isnt really obama passing the new gun law its obama passing the credit card bill with this attached to it...Still ill take it thats one of the reasons i dont really like to go hiking, i mean hiking where you go out for a few days and hike and camp b/c if a animal was to attack youre pretty much screwed.
Still, if he was the gun taker everyone made him out to be, do you really think he would have let this slide? He's got all the seats he needs once Franken gets in to shut this down if he wants, but he just let it slide.
Very cool by the B man.
-
LOL like 2nd said this isnt really obama passing the new gun law its obama passing the credit card bill with this attached to it...Still ill take it thats one of the reasons i dont really like to go hiking, i mean hiking where you go out for a few days and hike and camp b/c if a animal was to attack youre pretty much screwed.
Uh, the Democrats helped attach it to the bill and voted for it to be included.
-
Uh, the Democrats helped attach it to the bill and voted for it to be included.
"helped" is a bit of a stretch imo
tom coburn introduced it. A repub senator. If by helping you mean not giving a shit about it Lol. Then yeah i agree.
-
Still, if he was the gun taker everyone made him out to be, do you really think he would have let this slide? He's got all the seats he needs once Franken gets in to shut this down if he wants, but he just let it slide.
Very cool by the B man.
AGAIN if the dems retain in 2010 they will try, it wouldnt be smart for them to go after guns right now would it? the economy in the shitter, 2 wars, billions in bail out money given away that the tax payer will never see again, trillions in projected spending...Now is not the time holmes, he isnt stupid enough to try it now but mark my words if they retain in 2010 they will try...
-
Uh, the Democrats helped attach it to the bill and voted for it to be included.
LOL maybe it was to garner support on the house side from the repubs on the dems credit card bill...
-
AGAIN if the dems retain in 2010 they will try, it wouldnt be smart for them to go after guns right now would it? the economy in the shitter, 2 wars, billions in bail out money given away that the tax payer will never see again, trillions in projected spending...Now is not the time holmes, he isnt stupid enough to try it now but mark my words if they retain in 2010 they will try...
If the Republicans don't stop acting like dimwits, we may very well get to see if your prediction is true... I don't think it is.
-
If the Republicans don't stop acting like dimwits, we may very well get to see if your prediction is true... I don't think it is.
LOL the AG already said he wants one, Pelosi said she wants one, obama yelled about gun control during his campaign...LOL ya your right maybe it was like a lot of other things just saying what ppl wanted to hear at the time...
-
LOL the AG already said he wants one, Pelosi said she wants one, obama yelled about gun control during his campaign...LOL ya your right maybe it was like a lot of other things just saying what ppl wanted to hear at the time...
Maybe it was... This Bill certainly doesn't sound like the Dems are trying to take your guns away.
-
LOL the AG already said he wants one, Pelosi said she wants one, obama yelled about gun control during his campaign...LOL ya your right maybe it was like a lot of other things just saying what ppl wanted to hear at the time...
Yeah like getting out of Iraq. LOL. Not that people care about that...
-
Yeah like getting out of Iraq. LOL. Not that people care about that...
No shit dude... Noooooo shit.
-
Maybe it was... This Bill certainly doesn't sound like the Dems are trying to take your guns away.
well what does it sound like when pelosi and the attorney general say they want another AWB that surpasses the last one? LOL or when obama when on his campaign makes a speech about keeping guns out of the hands of gang members...LOL i know that sounds like a great idea and hey it is if only it where that simple but what he wants to do to accomplish that is the problem which by the way wouldnt accomplish what he wants in the first place...
-
Yeah like getting out of Iraq. LOL. Not that people care about that...
you dont think ppl care about gun control?
-
well what does it sound like when pelosi and the attorney general say they want another AWB that surpasses the last one? LOL or when obama when on his campaign makes a speech about keeping guns out of the hands of gang members...LOL i know that sounds like a great idea and hey it is if only it where that simple but what he wants to do to accomplish that is the problem which by the way wouldnt accomplish what he wants in the first place...
I'd like to keep guns out of the hands of gang members too... but since I can't, I want to be as strapped as possible.
Like I said... This bill certainly seems to argue against what you're saying with actual actions... Not just sound bites or talking points.
-
you dont think ppl care about gun control?
I care about it when people mention it because I don't want it or like it.
I want less control over guns... Not more.
However, I don't think it's the "hot button" that some people make it out to be... Even myself.
I realize that while some people do care, I'm not sure if it's as high a percentage as I think it should be.
-
I'd like to keep guns out of the hands of gang members too... but since I can't, I want to be as strapped as possible.
Like I said... This bill certainly seems to argue against what you're saying with actual actions... Not just sound bites or talking points.
I agree now go tell it on the mountain to the dems
If you listen to the clip it says that the majority of dems that got seats where conservative dems the left of the left which obama is and so is pelosi, holder, emanuel etc...are NOT PRO GUN.
LOL ::) if you really think the majority of dems are pro gun youre an idiot sorry bro i like you but if you actually think that iono what to say to you...Look up pelosi and gun control, look up holder and gun control, look up obama and gun control and read up on the facts...just b/c they do this to help get their credit card bill passed doesnt make them pro gun
-
I agree now go tell it on the mountain to the dems
If you listen to the clip it says that the majority of dems that got seats where conservative dems the left of the left which obama is and so is pelosi, holder, emanuel etc...are NOT PRO GUN.
LOL ::) if you really think the majority of dems are pro gun youre an idiot sorry bro i like you but if you actually think that iono what to say to you...Look up pelosi and gun control, look up holder and gun control, look up obama and gun control and read up on the facts...just b/c they do this to help get their credit card bill passed doesnt make them pro gun
I didn't say "pro" gun... I said that until they go after the guns, you're just SAYING they are.
So far, they have not.
I would guess I'm pretty liberal, but I'm totally pro gun, so I don't see how the "Democratic Party" is the part of people who want to take the guns... Maybe at one time, but hell, at one time, the Republican party was all about small government and fiscal conservatism.
I'm guessing if the Republicans can change their stance on finance, then the Democrats can change their stance on guns.
-
I didn't say "pro" gun... I said that until they go after the guns, you're just SAYING they are.
So far, they have not.
I would guess I'm pretty liberal, but I'm totally pro gun, so I don't see how the "Democratic Party" is the part of people who want to take the guns... Maybe at one time, but hell, at one time, the Republican party was all about small government and fiscal conservatism.
I'm guessing if the Republicans can change their stance on finance, then the Democrats can change their stance on guns.
LOL arent you the one who was talking about the slippery slope? the first AWB was what? the proposing of a second and the AG saying he wouldnt get in the way was what? obama trying to show a link from the US gun dealers to the mexican drug cartels. even though no such link was ever established was what? hahahah again bro...They havent changed their stance bro, the left is still the left its that right now there are more conservative dems in place then pelosi/obama type libs, if they get more of those then they will try something...
-
LOL arent you the one who was talking about the slippery slope? the first AWB was what? the proposing of a second and the AG saying he wouldnt get in the way was what? obama trying to show a link from the US gun dealers to the mexican drug cartels. even though no such link was ever established was what? hahahah again bro...They havent changed their stance bro, the left is still the left its that right now there are more conservative dems in place then pelosi/obama type libs, if they get more of those then they will try something...
Like I said, I think the democratic party has changed just like the Republicans... There are many conservative Democrats... You keep mentioning the same ones, but there's 57 of those Democrats in the Senate now and 248 in the House.
I don't believe that there are as many gun takers as you're making it out to be.
-
Like I said, I think the democratic party has changed just like the Republicans... There are many conservative Democrats... You keep mentioning the same ones, but there's 57 of those Democrats in the Senate now and 248 in the House.
I don't believe that there are as many gun takers as you're making it out to be.
I already made that statement ??? LOL
The dems in power however are big gun takers if they had there way...Do you think obama trying to push the ficticious US gun dealers are supplying mexico drug cartels was an accident? how about the playing up of the gun violence of late? when the left swings back a little more left you will see it again...
-
I already made that statement ??? LOL
The dems in power however are big gun takers if they had there way...Do you think obama trying to push the ficticious US gun dealers are supplying mexico drug cartels was an accident? how about the playing up of the gun violence of late? when the left swings back a little more left you will see it again...
I didn't see the Obama gun dealers / drug cartels item, so I can't really comment right now.
I haven't see anything more about gun violence than I always have... Not really sure where you're seeing that.
I will have to wait for the left to swing more left I guess... because right now, as far as Gun Control is concerned... I just don't see it.
Yes, Pelosi has said it, but she's one person and the party still makes decisions that go against her.
-
I didn't see the Obama gun dealers / drug cartels item, so I can't really comment right now.
I haven't see anything more about gun violence than I always have... Not really sure where you're seeing that.
I will have to wait for the left to swing more left I guess... because right now, as far as Gun Control is concerned... I just don't see it.
Yes, Pelosi has said it, but she's one person and the party still makes decisions that go against her.
LOL you dont remember obama making speechs during all the shit going on at the border talking about how us gun dealers are basically supplying mexican drug cartels with weapons? or pelosi using the string of shootings that took place for a while to bring up gun control? come on man...
She is the speaker of the house ELECTED BY HER PEERS...
Give it time my friend it will come full circle once again...
-
http://www.worthynews.com/top/washingtonpost-com-wp-dyn-content-article-2009-04-15-AR2009041502045-html-wprss-rss_world/
"President Obama yesterday ratcheted up efforts to curb the flow of drugs and guns across the southern border"
to my knowledge not one gun has been linked to the US...I wouldnt doubt that some guns from the US have ended up in mexico in the hands of cartels but to play up that angle as much as obama did ::) plz....
-
In reading your link it appears that most government officials from even the Bush era seem to agree that most of the guns are coming from the US.
I don't really see that as a problem... I think we should all be as strapped as we want to be.
-
It's been nearly 5 months of Obama rule.
Obama has printed 10 trillion bucks and bailed out anyone he wants. yet he hasn't gone and tried any anti-gun shit.
It would cost him congress in 2010 and the white house in 2012. He knows it.
-
It's been nearly 5 months of Obama rule.
Obama has printed 10 trillion bucks and bailed out anyone he wants. yet he hasn't gone and tried any anti-gun shit.
It would cost him congress in 2010 and the white house in 2012. He knows it.
thats exactly right...iono about 2012 thats to far off to tell right now that is exactly why i wouldnt be suprised at all to see them try something if they stay in power in 2010
-
awesome, i like the fact i can carry in a park. well legally now lol
-
It's been nearly 5 months of Obama rule.
Obama has printed 10 trillion bucks and bailed out anyone he wants. yet he hasn't gone and tried any anti-gun shit.
It would cost him congress in 2010 and the white house in 2012. He knows it.
Great so by that logic, we have 3 more years to stock up. I guess we get no guns, more gays and more healthcare in 2012,
-
Great so by that logic, we have 3 more years to stock up. I guess we get no guns, more gays and more healthcare in 2012,
The premise makes no sense to me... That's like saying all Republicans are pro-life.
We know they aren't.
-
thats exactly right...iono about 2012 thats to far off to tell right now that is exactly why i wouldnt be suprised at all to see them try something if they stay in power in 2010
nah, people have short memories. obama would rather lose congress and keep his job by pulling some BS in 2009.
if he tries is in 2011, it could cost him his own job. Clinton was dumb enough to pass the gun ban right before the 94 elections. we know how that worked out ;)
-
I wonder if that means someone can go to Bohemian Grove with their gun and take out the losers that attend the sordid meetings there..
-
By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer Charles Babington, Associated Press Writer – 18 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Frustrated liberals are asking why a Democratic-controlled Congress and White House can't manage to close the Guantanamo prison or keep new gun-rights laws from passing.
After all, President Barack Obama pledged to shut down the military detention center on Cuba for suspected terrorists. And Democratic control of the government would suggest that any gun legislation leads to tighter controls on weapons, not expanded use.
Even as they grouse, however, liberal lawmakers acknowledge that no one factor explains last week's disappointing back-to-back votes in Congress.
The Obama administration is focused on other priorities, they say. Party leaders don't want to endanger Democratic lawmakers from conservative districts by stressing divisive issues such as gun control.
On Guantanamo, many say, Obama and his allies were caught napping as Republicans stirred public fears about relocating suspected terrorists.
"I think it's one of the few times that he didn't think it all the way out," said Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., an unabashed admirer of the president.
As for trying to keep loaded guns out of national parks, Cummings said, "I don't think he put a lot of energy into it." Issues such as national security and the distressed economy deserve greater attention, at least for now, he said, adding that the president "picks his fights very carefully."
Such explanations provide small comfort to left-leaning Democrats after eight years of George W. Bush's presidency and nearly a dozen years of Republican control of Congress.
"We'll probably end up passing more gun bills" that expand owners' rights "than we did during the Republican administration," said Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., a leading gun control advocate. "That is what surprises me."
She placed less blame on the White House than on ordinary Americans and advocacy groups that are consistently outflanked by gun owners' groups, especially the National Rifle Association.
"Until the American people say enough is enough, and get active in it," Democratic control of Congress and the White House will not be enough to turn the tide, said McCarthy, whose husband was killed by a gunman in 1993.
Two votes in Congress last Wednesday dismayed many liberals and exposed the limits of their influence even with Obama as president and Democrats holding solid majorities in both houses.
-
By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer Charles Babington, Associated Press Writer – 18 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Frustrated liberals are asking why a Democratic-controlled Congress and White House can't manage to close the Guantanamo prison or keep new gun-rights laws from passing.
After all, President Barack Obama pledged to shut down the military detention center on Cuba for suspected terrorists. And Democratic control of the government would suggest that any gun legislation leads to tighter controls on weapons, not expanded use.
Even as they grouse, however, liberal lawmakers acknowledge that no one factor explains last week's disappointing back-to-back votes in Congress.
The Obama administration is focused on other priorities, they say. Party leaders don't want to endanger Democratic lawmakers from conservative districts by stressing divisive issues such as gun control.
On Guantanamo, many say, Obama and his allies were caught napping as Republicans stirred public fears about relocating suspected terrorists.
"I think it's one of the few times that he didn't think it all the way out," said Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., an unabashed admirer of the president.
As for trying to keep loaded guns out of national parks, Cummings said, "I don't think he put a lot of energy into it." Issues such as national security and the distressed economy deserve greater attention, at least for now, he said, adding that the president "picks his fights very carefully."
Such explanations provide small comfort to left-leaning Democrats after eight years of George W. Bush's presidency and nearly a dozen years of Republican control of Congress.
"We'll probably end up passing more gun bills" that expand owners' rights "than we did during the Republican administration," said Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., a leading gun control advocate. "That is what surprises me."
She placed less blame on the White House than on ordinary Americans and advocacy groups that are consistently outflanked by gun owners' groups, especially the National Rifle Association.
"Until the American people say enough is enough, and get active in it," Democratic control of Congress and the White House will not be enough to turn the tide, said McCarthy, whose husband was killed by a gunman in 1993.
Two votes in Congress last Wednesday dismayed many liberals and exposed the limits of their influence even with Obama as president and Democrats holding solid majorities in both houses.
Are you angered about this legislation? I am not.