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QB Tom Brady did not take part in New England's first three days of voluntary OTAs at Gillette Stadium, a three-day passing camp that focused on rookies, first-year Patriots newcomers and other young players rehabbing from injuries. Working his way back to full health from a severe knee injury that cost him all but a quarter of action last fall, the former NFL MVP is expected to be on the field for the Patriots second series of OTA sessions May 26-29 at Gillette Stadium.
"I'm feeling great and just excited to be out there on the field, training with my teammates," Brady told Patriots.com. "It's always fun being back in this competitive environment and working with these guys to try to make 2009 our best season. It's been fun to be back. I think everyone is excited to get back on the field and see what we're capable of."
What are your thoughts about Tom and do the Pats have a Capable backup if Tom gets Hurt again?
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Tom Brady is back...greaaaat just great.
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Tom Brady is back...greaaaat just great.
I feel the same way! ;D
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QB Tom Brady did not take part in New England's first three days of voluntary OTAs at Gillette Stadium, a three-day passing camp that focused on rookies, first-year Patriots newcomers and other young players rehabbing from injuries. Working his way back to full health from a severe knee injury that cost him all but a quarter of action last fall, the former NFL MVP is expected to be on the field for the Patriots second series of OTA sessions May 26-29 at Gillette Stadium.
"I'm feeling great and just excited to be out there on the field, training with my teammates," Brady told Patriots.com. "It's always fun being back in this competitive environment and working with these guys to try to make 2009 our best season. It's been fun to be back. I think everyone is excited to get back on the field and see what we're capable of."
What are your thoughts about Tom and do the Pats have a Capable backup if Tom gets Hurt again?
I think that Brady is going to be fine and that some of the hype about his injury was created by the Patriots to drive up Cassel's value. Even Brady at 85% of what he was in 2007 is better than anyone not named Payton Manning. 50 td's to 4 int's is insane and thats what he can do at his best. Brady has never been mobile, thats not what makes him great, it's his smarts, his arm and his awareness to pressure. He knows just when to step up or when to shuffle to the side to avoid the rush. I think that he feels like he has something to prove and he will have a big year.
Kevin O'connel is Brady's backup. He's just like Cassel but a better athlete. Belichick took him in the third round, which is the highest that they have taken a QB since they have been here. I've seen him play and he looks just like Cassel.
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I think that Brady is going to be fine and that some of the hype about his injury was created by the Patriots to drive up Cassel's value. Even Brady at 85% of what he was in 2007 is better than anyone not named Payton Manning. 50 td's to 4 int's is insane and thats what he can do at his best. Brady has never been mobile, thats not what makes him great, it's his smarts, his arm and his awareness to pressure. He knows just when to step up or when to shuffle to the side to avoid the rush. I think that he feels like he has something to prove and he will have a big year.
Kevin O'connel is Brady's backup. He's just like Cassel but a better athlete. Belichick took him in the third round, which is the highest that they have taken a QB since they have been here. I've seen him play and he looks just like Cassel.
I Concur. GO BLUE!! ;D
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I think that Brady is going to be fine and that some of the hype about his injury was created by the Patriots to drive up Cassel's value. Even Brady at 85% of what he was in 2007 is better than anyone not named Payton Manning. 50 td's to 4 int's is insane and thats what he can do at his best. Brady has never been mobile, thats not what makes him great, it's his smarts, his arm and his awareness to pressure. He knows just when to step up or when to shuffle to the side to avoid the rush. I think that he feels like he has something to prove and he will have a big year.
Kevin O'connel is Brady's backup. He's just like Cassel but a better athlete. Belichick took him in the third round, which is the highest that they have taken a QB since they have been here. I've seen him play and he looks just like Cassel.
He threw more than 4 Int's in 2007. Think it was around 8 or 9. Still an incredible year for sure.
I hope to see Brady back in top form. A serious injury can hurt your confidence, though. I'm sure his O-line will be extra motivated to keep defenses from touching him.
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He threw more than 4 Int's in 2007. Think it was around 8 or 9. Still an incredible year for sure.
I hope to see Brady back in top form. A serious injury can hurt your confidence, though. I'm sure his O-line will be extra motivated to keep defenses from touching him.
Sorry, it was 50/8. Incredable is an understatement considering he plays outdoors in the northeast and it was his first year with Moss and Welker. Brady will be fine, he's been through it all. Confidence is something Brady has a lot off. I hope to see him back in top form and I think he will be. I think the pats hyped his injury big time.
I think he'll throw around 40 td's and 10 - 15 int's next year.
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I think this offense can be better than 07, if thats possible. Galloway is a great additon as a third reciever and the 2 tight ends they got are beasts. Taylor gives them another option out of the backfield with Maroney who seems very motivated and Faulk who always produces.
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Not so sure about Galloway being that much of an addition. He'll be 38 years old this season. He really began to show his age last season with the Bucs. Still a great pro who works very hard to stay on the field despite his advanced age.
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Not so sure about Galloway being that much of an addition. He'll be 38 years old this season. He really began to show his age last season with the Bucs. Still a great pro who works very hard to stay on the field despite his advanced age.
This is a tough one for me as i saw him play at O$U and down here in Tampa but he is still a great player and will be a valuable commodity to Tom Brady. Tom wants to play another "Ten" years but who knows if his body will be able to stand ten more years. PATS have at least two more rings coming to them while Brady is QB.
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This is a tough one for me as i saw him play at O$U and down here in Tampa but he is still a great player and will be a valuable commodity to Tom Brady. Tom wants to play another "Ten" years but who knows if his body will be able to stand ten more years. PATS have at least two more rings coming to them while Brady is QB.
As far as ability on the field, he's no longer great. As far as his professionalism and they way he prepares himself physically, he's terrific. It will be interesting to see how much he has left in the tank.
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Boston's sports dynasty = OVAH!!!!!!
The Boston fans are crying into their beers at the bah as I type this!
You are WRONG!! 8)
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No, he's annoying troll that begs me to allow him to post via pm after I ban him. As always, he reverts back to being a dick 99% of the time. Done for good :D
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Not so sure about Galloway being that much of an addition. He'll be 38 years old this season. He really began to show his age last season with the Bucs. Still a great pro who works very hard to stay on the field despite his advanced age.
I think it was a good addition. He's a number three wr. Brady has taken guys with less talent that Galloway and made them fit the system. Look at Caldwell and Gaffney. I also think this year O will be better than the 2007 version. Well, if injuries don't take their toll.
Brady
Moss, Welker, Galloway, Tate
Watson, Baker, Thomas, Hochstein (jumbo package TE/FB/blocker)
Maroney, Morris, Taylor, Faulk, BJGE
Thats a very good starting lineup no matter the combination - imo.
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I think it was a good addition. He's a number three wr. Brady has taken guys with less talent that Galloway and made them fit the system. Look at Caldwell and Gaffney. I also think this year O will be better than the 2007 version. Well, if injuries don't take their toll.
Brady
Moss, Welker, Galloway, Tate
Watson, Baker, Thomas, Hochstein (jumbo package TE/FB/blocker)
Maroney, Morris, Taylor, Faulk, BJGE
Thats a very good starting lineup no matter the combination - imo.
he's a #3 receiver with the PATRIOTS. His entire career he's been a #1. Now he's going to play in the slot? or is he just going to back up Welker and Moss? Galloway is not a slot receiver and never has been. He's always been a vertical stop and go receiver.I honestly don't think he'll be much of a factor for the Pats this year. I know Belichik loves veteran players but Galloway didn't attract much interest from other teams when he became a feee agent. He's pretty long in the tooth.
Just my opinion.
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he's a #3 receiver with the PATRIOTS. His entire career he's been a #1. Now he's going to play in the slot? or is he just going to back up Welker and Moss? Galloway is not a slot receiver and never has been. He's always been a vertical stop and go receiver.I honestly don't think he'll be much of a factor for the Pats this year. I know Belichik loves veteran players but Galloway didn't attract much interest from other teams when he became a feee agent. He's pretty long in the tooth.
Just my opinion.
i think you should be more worried about your teams defense putting back the pieces rather than galoway
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he's a #3 receiver with the PATRIOTS. His entire career he's been a #1. Now he's going to play in the slot? or is he just going to back up Welker and Moss? Galloway is not a slot receiver and never has been. He's always been a vertical stop and go receiver.I honestly don't think he'll be much of a factor for the Pats this year. I know Belichik loves veteran players but Galloway didn't attract much interest from other teams when he became a feee agent. He's pretty long in the tooth.
Just my opinion.
Yes, he's replacing Gaffney. I guess you could say he's a #2, but he's not. Welker is the #2. The "slot" is a hybrid position with the pats, because they often supplement their running game with short passing plays to welker while Moss draws double teams. They've started to use him outside the slot, also. I know he didn't attract much interest, but neither did Welker or Randy Moss. People called Moss old an washed up, now he's the best in the game according to all the pundits.
I guess we'll just have to see what happens.
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i think you should be more worried about your teams defense putting back the pieces rather than galoway
Explain? They have pretty much rebuilt the whole defense (which was a top ten d in the NFL last year). They could use another lb, but they are pretty damn young all over the place now. They will be getting back players they lost last year to injury. Tank Williams, A.D Thomas and Shawn Crable to name a few.
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Explain? They have pretty much rebuilt the whole defense (which was a top ten d in the NFL last year). They could use another lb, but they are pretty damn young all over the place now. They will be getting back players they lost last year to injury. Tank Williams, A.D Thomas and Shawn Crable to name a few.
the ravens genius
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i think you should be more worried about your teams defense putting back the pieces rather than galoway
Why do you say that? Because they lost their defensive coordinator and Bart Scott to the Jets?
The Ravens defense will be fine. Keep an eye out for Tavares Gooden. He replaces Scott as the inside backer next to Ray Lewis. That kid has all the tools, wait and see. I would have loved to have kept Jim Leonard but Dawan Landry will be a force at SS this season. He has a lot to prove this year. The Ravens D-line is going to be sick this year. Stop gap NT Kelly Gregg is back and healthy, Trevor Pryce and Suggs are back at the DE(even though Suggs is a hybrid player who plays with his hand down as a DE or lines up standing as a LB). Haloti Ngata is an absolute animal and will be an all-pro this year.
The Ravens will be a force for years to come. Even the most die-hard Steeler fans acknowledge this.
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Why do you say that? Because they lost their defensive coordinator and Bart Scott to the Jets?
The Ravens defense will be fine. Keep an eye out for Tavares Gooden. He replaces Scott as the inside backer next to Ray Lewis. That kid has all the tools, wait and see. I would have loved to have kept Jim Leonard but Dawan Landry will be a force at SS this season. He has a lot to prove this year. The Ravens D-line is going to be sick this year. Stop gap NT Kelly Gregg is back and healthy, Trevor Pryce and Suggs are back at the DE(even though Suggs is a hybrid player who plays with his hand down as a DE or lines up standing as a LB). Haloti Ngata is an absolute animal and will be an all-pro this year.
The Ravens will be a force for years to come. Even the most die-hard Steeler fans acknowledge this.
bart scott,corey ivy,marques douglas,jim leanard who is a sp teams weapon. And also your defensive coordinator.
yea, id say they have some holes to fill
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the ravens genius
My mistake. You're the genius bud. Very smart guy :D
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My mistake. You're the genius bud. Very smart guy :D
ehh dont sweat it. I realise bostonians are exactly the brightest bunch. ;)
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ehh dont sweat it. I realise bostonians are exactly the brightest bunch. ;)
Oh yes. Not as smart as you, thats for sure.
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ehh dont sweat it. I realise bostonians are exactly the brightest bunch. ;)
Well, i see how your stupidity affects you and i suspect that you are a O$U fan or Alumni? I see now
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Well, i see how your stupidity affects you and i suspect that you are a O$U fan or Alumni? I see now
lolwut?
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Bart Scott,Corey ivy,marques Douglas,Jim Leonard who is a sp teams weapon. And also your defensive coordinator.
yea, id say they have some holes to fill
I agree, they lost some important players who were responsible for the Ravens playoff success last season. But the Ravens have outstanding scouting and a great eye for young talented players who can fit their defensive scheme and philosophy.
You'll see what I mean when next season unfolds.
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I agree, they lost some important players who were responsible for the Ravens playoff success last season. But the Ravens have outstanding scouting and a great eye for young talented players who can fit their defensive scheme and philosophy.
You'll see what I mean when next season unfolds.
Agreed, same with the pats, the steelers, the titans and the colts. Plug and play. They know what their doing.
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Agreed, same with the pats, the steelers, the titans and the colts. Plug and play. They know what their doing.
what? Those teams you listed have pretty stellar records over the last 5 years. Reason being is because they had stable leadership for years from within in, belichek,labeau,dungy.... The ravens have been anything but consistent during that time. Now, with a 2nd year head coach and a brand new d-coordinator, dont think the ravens will just "plug and play".
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what? Those teams you listed have pretty stellar records over the last 5 years. Reason being is because they had stable leadership for years from within in, belichek,labeau,dungy.... The ravens have been anything but consistent during that time. Now, with a 2nd year head coach and a brand new d-coordinator, dont think the ravens will just "plug and play".
Dude, just stick to what you think you know, which is NBA(sort of...)
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what? Those teams you listed have pretty stellar records over the last 5 years. Reason being is because they had stable leadership for years from within in, belichek,labeau,dungy.... The ravens have been anything but consistent during that time. Now, with a 2nd year head coach and a brand new d-coordinator, dont think the ravens will just "plug and play".
Those teams have cores of players and a drafting philosophy that allows them to contend year after year with a salary cap and with free agency. The teams I just mentioned are the best drafting teams in the NFL. They lose players, replace players and plug in players. I can give you a million examples of this with the pats alone. Obviously the stable leadership, the drafting of that leadership and the understanding of who they can plug in where makes them successful. Rex Ryan drafted a ton of awesome players while he was with the ravens.
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Dude, just stick to what you think you know, which is NBA(sort of...)
what the hell are you talking about? You don't debate shit. All you do is gloat when you're team is doing good.
WHO RIDE WE RIDE<<<< what you bring to the table fuckboy.
How about you try and refute what i said instead of bitching because your ravens have been inconsistant the last 5 years, what were they 5-11 a couple years ago?
10-6
9-7
6-10
6-10
5-11
11-5
Color me impressed.
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Those teams have cores of players and a drafting philosophy that allows them to contend year after year with a salary cap and with free agency. The teams I just mentioned are the best drafting teams in the NFL. They lose players, replace players and plug in players. I can give you a million examples of this with the pats alone. Obviously the stable leadership, the drafting of that leadership and the understanding of who they can plug in where makes them successful. Rex Ryan drafted a ton of awesome players while he was with the ravens.
Who exatly did rex ryan draft? and why are you singling out rex ryan, we're discussing team philisophy here, and I'm pretty sure brian billick called those shots along with newsome. If i remember correctly they drafted a very successful quarter back by the name of kyle boller.
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what the hell are you talking about? You don't debate shit. All you do is gloat when you're team is doing good.
WHO RIDE WE RIDE<<<< what you bring to the table fuckboy.
How about you try and refute what i said instead of bitching because your ravens have been inconsistant the last 5 years, what were they 5-11 a couple years ago?
10-6
9-7
6-10
6-10
5-11
11-5
Color me impressed.
oh gotcha...you're a Steelers fan....hmmm..news to me...when did you jump on that bandwagon?? First time I've heard you post such a thing.
The Ravens were 13-3 during the 2006 season. They have not had back to back losing seasons since 98-99. Never had 6-10 back to back losing seasons either so please get your facts and data correct before posting something incorrect and looking like a tool. Whoops, too late... :-\
You're also very annoying and very immature based on the content of your posts. Work on that before you end up phasing yourself out to complete irrelevance on getbig. Not that anyone gives two shits about your opinions to begin with......
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oh gotcha...you're a Steelers fan....hmmm..news to me...when did you jump on that bandwagon?? First time I've heard you post such a thing.
The Ravens were 13-3 during the 2006 season. They have not had back to back losing seasons since 98-99. Never had 6-10 back to back losing seasons either so please get your facts and data correct before posting something incorrect and looking like a tool. Whoops, too late... :-\
11-5
5-11
13-3
6-10
9-7
10-6
doesnt exactly scream consistancy, does it.
A steelers fan? LOL
You're also very annoying and very immature based on the content of your posts. Work on that before you end up phasing yourself out to complete irrelevance on getbig. Not that anyone gives two shits about your opinions to begin with......
awww i'm immature? LOL. Take your quaintness and shove it up your snatch. Is that immature enough for you my little buddy? Irrelevance on getbig...Lol is that the best you can do? Did i read that right? You're pathetic.
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11-5
5-11
13-3
6-10
9-7
10-6
doesnt exactly scream consistancy, does it.
A steelers fan? LOL
awww i'm immature? LOL. Take your quaintness and shove it up your snatch. Is that immature enough for you my little buddy? Irrelevance on getbig...Lol is that the best you can do? Did i read that right? You're pathetic.
Hmmmmm? Were you saying something?
Oh, wait....that's what irrelevance is, right? ;)
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11-5
5-11
13-3
6-10
9-7
10-6
doesnt exactly scream consistancy, does it.
A steelers fan? LOL
awww i'm immature? LOL. Take your quaintness and shove it up your snatch. Is that immature enough for you my little buddy? Irrelevance on getbig...Lol is that the best you can do? Did i read that right? You're pathetic.
The ravens have consistently produced and drafted awesome football players since 2001. I know their record is not "steller" but I'm talking about the ability to draft players and they have a laundry list of great ones. of course they had some poor choices a long the way (Boller), but as a fan I admire their ability to spot defensive talent. Since 01 they've gone 54-42 and won a single superbowl.
of course the Titans, the Pats, the Colts and the Steelers have won more, but from a drafting standpoint all the teams listed have done pretty damn good.
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The ravens have consistently produced and drafted awesome football players since 2001. I know their record is not "steller" but I'm talking about the ability to draft players and they have a laundry list of great ones. of course they had some poor choices a long the way (Boller), but as a fan I admire their ability to spot defensive talent. Since 01 they've gone 54-42 and won a single superbowl.
of course the Titans, the Pats, the Colts and the Steelers have won more, but from a drafting standpoint all the teams listed have done pretty damn good.
You don't have to convince me bro. Thanks for the compliments to my team. Nothing but respect for the Pats and the city of Baaaaaston.
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The Patriots hosted LB Paris Lenon for a free agent visit last week.
New England is on the lookout for inside linebackers after rookie Tyrone McKenzie's ACL tear. Lenon, 31, started in the middle for Detroit last year.
He'd be a solid fit their. Doesn't have to do a lot and could just be a sub there behind Mayo and Bruschi.
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The Patriots hosted LB Paris Lenon for a free agent visit last week.
New England is on the lookout for inside linebackers after rookie Tyrone McKenzie's ACL tear. Lenon, 31, started in the middle for Detroit last year.
He'd be a solid fit their. Doesn't have to do a lot and could just be a sub there behind Mayo and Bruschi.
I think he signed...
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I think he signed...
Damn, how many Linebackers do they have now? I seen him in Detroit and was never impressed. Where is Crable at in the Linebacking core?
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Damn, how many Linebackers do they have now? I seen him in Detroit and was never impressed. Where is Crable at in the Linebacking core?
He's going to play in a limited role. It takes some time to learn Belichick's scheme. The pats are bringing in a lot of guys so they have a better chance of nabbing a solid player or two via f.a. Many of these guys won't make the team. Also, keep in mind no one knew who the hell Vrabel was when he came over from Pitt.