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just wanna know whos hungry and whos done gave up in the weightlifting game?
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20-22 a day
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20-22 a day
wow so an average of 40 working sets in 2 days= probably decent built
if one averages 65-75 sets in 2 days even with mere medium weight on barbell 200 pounds over that many sets then that man would have a near elite build
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i no longer count sets or reps. Reps fall anywhere from 2-25.
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20-22 a day
right now i think my diet is off and or i need more calories. im heavier but the calories just seem to keep my weight up but not much energy. im thinking i need even more calories
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right now i think my diet is off and or i need more calories. im heavier but the calories just seem to keep my weight up but not much energy. im thinking i need even more calories
Im taking in 5500cals ED to support this
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i no longer count sets or reps. Reps fall anywhere from 2-25.
thats just silly, you can NOT guage percisely how many pounds lifted over sets on average you are doing weekly ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Im taking in 5500cals ED to support this
dont think im quite that high. if you dont mind whats your height and weight?
im around 3-4000
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dont think im quite that high. if you dont mind whats your height and weight?
im around 3-4000
Ummm 6'2 242lbs
will be lowering calories soon
for epic leans
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thats just silly, you can NOT guage percisely how many pounds lifted over sets on average you are doing weekly ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
also silly to think that doing less then 30 sets in a 2 day span means you arent hungry or arent going to make progress ::)
back and shoulders two days i have 21 worksets probably about 26 or so if you add warm ups...
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a cool way to find your average is simply find out your average weight first or mean weight multiply that by 24 hours= total pounds sustained per hour so a 200 pound man would have sustaind 4800 pounds all day without even working out
180 pound man= 4320 over 24 hours
a 150 pound man over 24 hours is 3600 pounds
then you would simply factor in workout poundages and sets for the ultimate scribe you can redeem for falcon hoe privelages
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a cool way to find your average is simply find out your average weight first or mean weight multiply that by 24 hours= total pounds sustained per hour so a 200 pound man would have sustaind 4800 pounds all day without even working out
180 pound man= 4320 over 24 hours
a 150 pound man over 24 hours is 3600 pounds
then you would simply factor in workout poundages and sets for the ultimate scribe you can redeem for falcon hoe privelages
hahahhahaha
you have great train of thought
I like that...
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thats just silly, you can NOT guage percisely how many pounds lifted over sets on average you are doing weekly ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
who cares? I'm getting in better shape each day. Eating very clean, working hard, and making progress. Who cares about figuring up "how many pounds lifted over sets on average i am doing weekly"?
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who cares? I'm getting in better shape each day. Eating very clean, working hard, and making progress. Who cares about figuring up "how many pounds lifted over sets on average i am doing weekly"?
quite making sense this is the G&O ;D
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also silly to think that doing less then 30 sets in a 2 day span means you arent hungry or arent going to make progress ::)
well bear in mind your statement would be true if you only did 2 sets at 3000 pounds per set ;D Also keep in mind for hypothetical reasons that you dont make progress only "maintaining" if you are doing 8 sets or less ;D lets try to stay focused now this is about what is the best routine, this is about WHO IS ABLE TO DO OVER 15 SETS A DAY OR AVERAGE OVER 30 IN TWO DAYS :o ;D ;D
im thinking more on the line of a good 'average' weight lifted per set. lets say "a real man" workout is only barbell stuff and lets say the weight is 200 pounds no matter what
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quite making sense this is the G&O ;D
honestly i don't even know what he was talking about. That's why i just copied what he said and put quotation marks around it. ;D
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who cares? I'm getting in better shape each day. Eating very clean, working hard, and making progress. Who cares about figuring up "how many pounds lifted over sets on average i am doing weekly"?
because at the rate your all of a sudden thinkin that you are making progress you wouldve been in shape last week doing a routine 79 percent less effective than you are now ::) ;D ::) ;D
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tallying up total sets and average poundage of weights is the only honest workout testament you could possibly have identified idiots ::) :P ::) :P ::) :P :P :P :P :P ::) ::)
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because at the rate your all of a sudden thinkin that you are making progress you wouldve been in shape last week doing a routine 79 percent less effective than you are now ::) ;D ::) ;D
that's where muscletech comes in.
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daddywaddy is saying you must know the TOTAL tension on the muscles to ensure PROGRESSION or STABILITY
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Ummm 6'2 242lbs
will be lowering calories soon
for epic leans
will your workouts suffer because of this reduction?
if they do, then do you agree that then there will be less muscle stimilation resulting in loss of muscle mass?
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SEABAST is saying you must know the TOTAL tension on the muscles to ensure PROGRESSION or STABILITY or REGRESSION
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will your workouts suffer because of this reduction?
if they do, then do you agree that then there will be less muscle stimilation resulting in loss of muscle mass?
good point...
why would you biologically hold onto muscle that is not needed as not as much tension
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I guess I fall above that range. I go with between 18-22 on back, chest, legs....12-15 on triceps, biceps, shoulders...calves, traps, etc. fall below that.
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A fair amount of warm up sets and I'd say 12 to 15 good working sets on average.
Generally around 45 seconds in between sets.
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good point...
why would you biologically hold onto muscle that is not needed as not as much tension
right this is where optimal diet comes in along with b-vitamins, flaxseed, skim milk, fortified cereal, applecider vinegar
the only way to biologically maintain or gain is to put the stress on and progessing upwards especially big guys with big muscles who also carry good amounts of bodyfat
much better to attempt to build more muscles with high calories and more average tension ensuring lean mass sustanance while leaning out WITH OPTIMAL CALORIC CHOICES
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well bear in mind your statement would be true if you only did 2 sets at 3000 pounds per set ;D Also keep in mind for hypothetical reasons that you dont make progress only "maintaining" if you are doing 8 sets or less ;D lets try to stay focused now this is about what is the best routine, this is about WHO IS ABLE TO DO OVER 15 SETS A DAY OR AVERAGE OVER 30 IN TWO DAYS :o ;D ;D
im thinking more on the line of a good 'average' weight lifted per set. lets say "a real man" workout is only barbell stuff and lets say the weight is 200 pounds no matter what
so your saying you cant go up in weight at all? if for some reason your stuck and cant go up in weight then sure measure your progress in reps and sets...why dont i take 10 mins between sets that would surely let me get more reps and more sets, does that mean im making more progress? hahahaha
your assertion is fairly idiotic...maybe i should just walk around with a 5 lb db all day and do curls ::)
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so your saying you cant go up in weight at all? if for some reason your stuck and cant go up in weight then sure measure your progress in reps and sets...why dont i take 10 mins between sets that would surely let me get more reps and more sets, does that mean im making more progress? hahahaha
your assertion is fairly idiotic...maybe i should just walk around with a 5 lb db all day and do curls ::)
if you did 8 reps with 200lbs barbell for two sets = 1600lbs of tension = 320 curls with 5lb db
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if you did 8 reps with 200lbs barbell for two sets = 1600lbs of tension = 320 curls with 5lb db
and your saying that they are equivilant to one another?
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if you did 8 reps with 200lbs barbell for two sets = 1600lbs of tension = 320 curls with 5lb db
wouldn't the lactic acid build up stop him before he got to 320 curls?
(epic trying to sound smart about something he knows nothing about)
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and your saying that they are equivilant to one another?
Im saying the tension is...
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Im saying the tension is...
and who cares? does equal tension equate to the same results?
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so your saying you cant go up in weight at all? if for some reason your stuck and cant go up in weight then sure measure your progress in reps and sets...why dont i take 10 mins between sets that would surely let me get more reps and more sets, does that mean im making more progress? hahahaha
your assertion is fairly idiotic...maybe i should just walk around with a 5 lb db all day and do curls ::)
no im saying use fairly decent weight and do max repetitions with it like a 200 pound barbell. no need to go up in weight if you struggle 200 pounds for 10 reps over 15 sets or something , its working you good enough no need to slap on 300 pounds and do 5 reps risking injuring
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lets not be rediculous in comparing 5 pound dumbell curls to 300 pound barbell lifts ::) ::)
lets keep in mind to use a respectable but injury free weight of around 200 pounds for any lift *bench, squat, dead, rows)
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just wanna know whos hungry and whos done gave up in the weightlifting game?
Arthur Jones ;D
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if you did 8 reps with 200lbs barbell for two sets = 1600lbs of tension = 320 curls with 5lb db
320 reps would be so outrageous it would probably stimulate and or put on the same mass as a 200 pound for 8 rep curling
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no im saying use fairly decent weight and do max repetitions with it like a 200 pound barbell. no need to go up in weight if you struggle 200 pounds for 10 reps over 15 sets or something , its working you good enough no need to slap on 300 pounds and do 5 reps risking injuring
wtf would you do 15 sets of one exercise? if youre doing 10 reps on set 3 and you did 10 reps on set 1 you didnt go all out on set 1 so its not working you good enough...your workouts sound like they would take freaking hours.
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lets not be rediculous in comparing 5 pound dumbell curls to 300 pound barbell lifts ::) ::)
lets keep in mind to use a respectable but injury free weight of around 200 pounds for any lift *bench, squat, dead, rows)
LOL youd be in the gym for fuking hours man
320 reps would be so outrageous it would probably stimulate and or put on the same mass as a 200 pound for 8 rep curling
hahahah ;D
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wtf would you do 15 sets of one exercise? if youre doing 10 reps on set 3 and you did 10 reps on set 1 you didnt go all out on set 1 so its not working you good enough...your workouts sound like they would take freaking hours.
Lets go up to 45 sets of one exercise that will do it ;D
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wtf would you do 15 sets of one exercise? if youre doing 10 reps on set 3 and you did 10 reps on set 1 you didnt go all out on set 1 so its not working you good enough...your workouts sound like they would take freaking hours.
exactly thats why i workout at home, so i can do other shit than working out or better yet EATING, and only do like 5 sets a every 30 min or so
its nearly impossible for glycogen replenishment working out at a fast pace with decent weights in a gym without eating at the gym between sets, digestion would be rough
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Lets go up to 45 sets of one exercise that will do it ;D
if only i had enough b-vitamins hitting the intrinsic factor, maybe this would happen then i would become a master ;D
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if only i had enough b-vitamins hitting the intrinsic factor, maybe this would happen then i would become a master ;D
Nice point so if you have all day and workout at home go for it. It worked for Serge Nubret he worked out 8 hrs a day...
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how about this...JUST FUKING LIFT!!!!!!!!!!!
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how about this...JUST FUKING LIFT!!!!!!!!!!!
you will stay the same with that attitude
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you will stay the same with that attitude
LOL sure buddy, i continue to make progress in one way or another thats the goal...theres no need to overthink the shit like some ppl do, workout all day, use the same weight for every set, do a retarded amount of sets for each exercise etc...just lift the fuking weight and try every workout to improve in reps or weight and youll be ok...
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LOL sure buddy, i continue to make progress in one way or another thats the goal...theres no need to overthink the shit like some ppl do, workout all day, use the same weight for every set, do a retarded amount of sets for each exercise etc...just lift the fuking weight and try every workout to improve in reps or weight and youll be ok...
if you can increase the amount of sets with a 200 pound dumbell consistently then you are progressing even if that extra set is out of the gym or at night.
then when youve accomplished a shitload of added sets of 200 pound barbell movements and have shown complete mastery then you can move up to 250 pound barbell, then find average daily sets then try to increase that...
Simple
stop thinking these idiot 'slogans' of fuck it and lift heavy without keeping track of anything ::) ::)
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if you can increase the amount of sets with a 200 pound dumbell consistently then you are progressing even if that extra set is out of the gym or at night.
then when youve accomplished a shitload of added sets of 200 pound barbell movements and have shown complete mastery then you can move up to 250 pound barbell, then find average daily sets then try to increase that...
Simple
stop thinking these idiot 'slogans' of fuck it and lift heavy without keeping track of anything ::) ::)
Your way has to many variables, time between sets etc...of coures i could lift more over the course of a day if i took 30 mins between sets that doesnt mean im making more progress then doing 3 sets in 10 mins LOL goodness gracious...
LOL i keep track of everything go on over to the training logs and check out my thread...quit buying into every stupid gimmick that comes out this shit is tried and true tested and tested...lift weight and try and increase in weight or reps every workout youll be ok trust me...
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Your way has to many variables, time between sets etc...of coures i could life more over the course of a day if i took 30 mins between sets that doesnt mean im making more progress then doing 3 sets in 10 mins LOL goodness gracious...
LOL i keep track of everything go on over to the training logs and check out my thread...quit buying into every stupid gimmick that comes out this shit is tried and true tested and tested...lift weight and try and increase in weight or reps every workout youll be ok trust me...
forget time between sets, just think of it as sets accomplished then there are NO variables. its about how many sets of a weight you complete in a day
kinda like building a brick house, doesnt matter how much time you take between laying bricks it matters how much of the house you got built in a day you fuckin fooooolish child minded thinker!
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forget time between sets, just think of it as sets accomplished then there are NO variables. its about how many sets of a weight you complete in a day
kinda like building a brick house, doesnt matter how much time you take between laying bricks it matters how much of the house you got built in a day you fuckin fooooolish child minded thinker!
of course you can make progress by attempting to do " the most weight lifted in 30 minites"
it would probably be best to implore/ explore both methods at once if you dare for ultra falcon results!
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forget time between sets, just think of it as sets accomplished then there are NO variables. its about how many sets of a weight you complete in a day
kinda like building a brick house, doesnt matter how much time you take between laying bricks it matters how much of the house you got built in a day you fuckin fooooolish child minded thinker!
LOL yes yes the mental retardation that is falconism...it all makes sense now...
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of course you can make progress by attempting to do " the most weight lifted in 30 minites"
it would probably be best to implore/ explore both methods at once if you dare for ultra falcon results!
two ways of progression
1 density
2 volume
he who utilizes and masters both is the true master of self falcon
one who just thinks they are going balls out without any true measuremnt is only fooling themselves. for example hitting a maximum weight doesnt cover your maximum potential or past Best in terms of volume
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LOL yes yes the mental retardation that is falconism...it all makes sense now...
Just because you run out of logic doesnt mean you have to hate the game
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will your workouts suffer because of this reduction?
if they do, then do you agree that then there will be less muscle stimilation resulting in loss of muscle mass?
Io will not be losing any muscle when he diets. In fact he will probably gain a few lbs of muscle while shedding all his bodyfat to epic leanz.
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find a distraught sea-bast in the nearest depths of Atlantis gaining optimal wisdom 2012 :o :o :o :o
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Io will not be losing any muscle when he diets. In fact he will probably gain a few lbs of muscle while shedding all his bodyfat to epic leanz.
speaking of gaining muscle ;)
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two ways of progression
1 density
2 volume
he who utilizes and masters both is the true master of self falcon
one who just thinks they are going balls out without any true measuremnt is only fooling themselves. for example hitting a maximum weight doesnt cover your maximum potential or past Best in terms of volume
i have plenty to measure and i dont have to spend countless hours doing 50 rep sets hahahahaha...if your max weight is higher then your last highest weight guess what you made progress ;) who knew?
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if your max weight is higher then your last highest weight guess what you made progress ;) who knew?
not necessarily, it could mean that you got a higher max weight because your technique improved
one might be satisfied calling "progression" if they hit a new max weight, but lets be honest and real, how often do we hit new maximal lifts????? and if this were fact wouldnt our max weight be something rediculously high by now?
a better way to progress without risking injury of max weights and sacrficing form, is to simply see how many sets you can add with a fixed weight on average
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not necessarily, it could mean that you got a higher max weight because your technique improved
one might be satisfied calling "progression" if they hit a new max weight, but lets be honest and real, how often do we hit new maximal lifts????? and if this were fact wouldnt our max weight be something rediculously high by now?
a better way to progress without risking injury of max weights and sacrficing form, is to simply see how many sets you can add with a fixed weight on average
same could be said for your looney little adventure...
actually that theory could be put towards reps and sets as well if your last workout you got 8 reps with a certain weight and this workout you got 10 guess what you improved, again who knew?
I understand what your saying about injury but with 20 sets or so your still at risk...
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same could be said for your looney little adventure...
actually that theory could be put towards reps and sets as well if your last workout you got 8 reps with a certain weight and this workout you got 10 guess what you improved, again who knew?
I understand what your saying about injury but with 20 sets or so your still at risk...
no fool, you keep weights and reps the same , if you cant complete x reps you simply "rest pause" then complete... this is not insured or garanteed with a weight that is at your upper limits
id be more inclined to say x lifter is progressing if hes doing 3 more sets per workout on average then a 10 pound one rep max gain. its all in what you want
id rather FOCUS on improving the amount of volume first to ensure any strength gains
whats the point in doing a max weight if you can only do it when your muscles are fresh and not being able to do the weight after you pushed a lawnmower wich might hinder your one rep max if you are training soley for strenth and not volume
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most would agree i would thinking that your less likely to get injured with high volume at mediocre weights then low volume with heavy weights
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no fool, you keep weights and reps the same , if you cant complete x reps you simply "rest pause" then complete... this is not insured or garanteed with a weight that is at your upper limits
id be more inclined to say x lifter is progressing if hes doing 3 more sets per workout on average then a 10 pound one rep max gain. its all in what you want
id rather FOCUS on improving the amount of volume first to ensure any strength gains
whats the point in doing a max weight if you can only do it when your muscles are fresh and not being able to do the weight after you pushed a lawnmower wich might hinder your one rep max if you are training soley for strenth and not volume
like i said you can simply apply it towards your regular workouts it doesnt have to be a one rep max, to each their own my workouts continue to give me progress...most would agree i would thinking that your less likely to get injured with high volume at mediocre weights then low volume with heavy weights
i agree, but then again most here would agree that my way is the best way to get strength and size gains as well so...
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like i said you can simply apply it towards your regular workouts it doesnt have to be a one rep max, to each their own my workouts continue to give me progress...i agree, but then again most here would agree that my way is the best way to get strength and size gains as well so...
wrong again your way is simply "try to do more hope to do more" with no particular method
if this method of progression of "always getting stronger or aiming to get stronger' with no real routine actually worked then there would be alot of content people
you claim your workouts continue to give you progress. then in a years time how much stronger does your "all balls" routine actually get you ::) ::)
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wrong again your way is simply "try to do more hope to do more" with no particular method
if this method of progression of "always getting stronger or aiming to get stronger' with no real routine actually worked then there would be alot of content people
you claim your workouts continue to give you progress. then in a years time how much stronger does your "all balls" routine actually get you ::) ::)
HAHAH again brain child there is a method to it, its based off the same thing as yours is but applied differently so if your saying my way has no method then neither does yours...Im pretty content the problem is not alot of ppl have the dedication or knowledge to commit to any workout plan really that would produce results and that goes for mine or yours.
LOL progress is measured in more then simply weights, especially as a person who lifts to look decent but also be strong...my strength has increased alot over the past year/years im stronger then ive ever been ive made progress for the past few years and have gotten much bigger as well.
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HAHAH again brain child there is a met
hod to it, its based off the same thing as yours is but applied differently so if your saying my way has no method then neither does yours...Im pretty content the problem is not alot of ppl have the dedication or knowledge to commit to any workout plan really that would produce results and that goes for mine or yours.
LOL progress is measured in more then simply weights, especially as a person who lifts to look decent but also be strong...my strength has increased alot over the past year/years im stronger then ive ever been ive made progress for the past few years and have gotten much bigger as well.
you have yet to mention the the method of your workout routine making it superior to mine ::) ::) ::)
the method to my workout plan is aiming to increase total volume or density. the ONLY way to insure progress with my routine is to eat more and more and hoping it gets utilized by my muscles wich is more likely to happen on a volume routine creating more of a demand for calories/re-building materials
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you have yet to mention the the method of your workout routine making it superior to mine ::) ::) ::)
the method to my workout plan is aiming to increase total volume or density. the ONLY way to insure progress with my routine is to eat more and more and hoping it gets utilized by my muscles wich is more likely to happen on a volume routine creating more of a demand for calories/re-building materials
well since like i said its tried and true tested and tested the proof is in the pudding, you have yet to say how yours is superior to mine...
same as mine brain child again try and improve on reps or weight every workout...like i said to each their own
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well since like i said its tried and true tested and tested the proof is in the pudding, you have yet to say how yours is superior to mine...
same as mine brain child again try and improve on reps or weight every workout...like i said to each their own
yes we are brain childs. and yes my physique is far better than yours that is the proof, now post a pic ;D
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yes we are brain childs. and yes my physique is far better than yours that is the proof, now post a pic ;D
LOL ive posted a pic already, i never said i had a great physique i said i continue to make progress...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=278656.0
now where is yours? ;D
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LOL ive posted a pic already, i never said i had a great physique i said i continue to make progress...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=278656.0
now where is yours? ;D
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278656.0;attach=318347;image)
in this pic tommy you are good and better than most but not as good as me bubba ;)
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=278656.0;attach=318347;image)
in this pic tommy you are good and better than most but not as good as me bubba ;)
LOL thanks and I never claimed to be better then you but id like to see a pic so go ahead and post one up 8)
Like i said ive made constant progress in both strength and size to each their own though.
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LOL thanks and I never claimed to be better then you but id like to see a pic so go ahead and post one up 8)
Like i said ive made constant progress in both strength and size to each their own though.
well I AM better than you thus i am satisfied, but sowwy dough boy im more ripped and bigger= you not getting a pic out of lack of respect and mercy for your soul ;D