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Title: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: The True Adonis on June 04, 2009, 02:06:13 AM: Atheist nations are more peaceful
The 2009 Global Peace Index has just been released. It's basically a ranking of how turbulent and warlike a country is.

They put it together by assessing 23 criteria, including foreign wars, internal conflicts, respect for human rights, the number of murders, the number of people in jail, the arms trade, and degrees of democracy (Guardian).

You can see a world map of peace at the Vision of Humanity website http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi/home.php and also take a look at country rankings for 2009, as well as earlier years.

New Zealand came top this year. Hmm, New Zealand is a pretty secular country. In fact, if you eyeball the rankings, the top few countries are all pretty secular.

What I've done in the figures here is to take data from the World Values Survey http://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/ on the percentage of people in each country who say they are a committed atheist, and also on the percentage of people who say that they go to a religious service at least once a month.

Then I split the sample into two equal groups, based on their score on the Global Peace Index. The ones in the 'Peaceful' group are countries with a GPI score less than 1.8.

Sure enough, peaceful countries have more atheists and fewer regular worshippers. The difference is highly statistically significant - in other words it's real, not just a chance finding.

Now, there are several possible reasons for this. It could be that people living in turbulent countries turn to religion, or it could be that religion is not a good way to structure modern society.

Whatever, it's another blow to the idea that secularization leads to social meltdown. Atheist countries are, in fact more peaceful.
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: lovemonkey on June 04, 2009, 02:14:06 AM: Atheists has a tendency to be smarter and more highly educated than religious dumbnuts.
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: webcake on June 04, 2009, 02:15:15 AM: Quote from: lovemonkey on June 04, 2009, 02:14:06 AM
Atheists has a tendency to be smarter and more highly educated than religious dumbnuts.

I take it you are a devout Christian?
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: nzmusclemonster on June 04, 2009, 02:15:50 AM: Quote from: webcke on June 04, 2009, 02:15:15 AM
I take it you are a devout Christian?

Racist!
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: kyomu on June 04, 2009, 02:16:19 AM: Atheist dont insist that much like Religious one.
Insisting causes conflict.
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: webcake on June 04, 2009, 02:20:01 AM: Quote from: nzmusclemonster on June 04, 2009, 02:15:50 AM
Racist!

Yeah, what's your point Jamie..... ???
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: lovemonkey on June 04, 2009, 02:20:21 AM: Quote from: kyomu on June 04, 2009, 02:16:19 AM
Atheist dont insist that much like Religious one.
Insisting causes conflict.

True.
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: nzmusclemonster on June 04, 2009, 02:24:56 AM: Quote from: webcke on June 04, 2009, 02:20:01 AM
Yeah, what's your point Jamie..... ???

Nothing Brian ;)
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: webcake on June 04, 2009, 02:31:17 AM: Quote from: nzmusclemonster on June 04, 2009, 02:24:56 AM
Nothing Brian ;)

Fail.
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: Mars on June 04, 2009, 02:37:43 AM: No surprise. religious people are more easely to enslave for political purposes.
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: lovemonkey on June 04, 2009, 02:40:16 AM: Quote from: Mars on June 04, 2009, 02:37:43 AM
No surprise. religious people are ~~more easely~~ easier to enslave for political purposes.

Fixed.
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: Tapeworm on June 04, 2009, 02:57:35 AM: So blow up a church today in the name of peace and tolerance.
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: kyomu on June 04, 2009, 02:59:21 AM: Quote from: Tapeworm on June 04, 2009, 02:57:35 AM
So blow up a church today in the name of peace and tolerance.
hahahahahahaha!
Very profund. ;D
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: Mars on June 04, 2009, 04:26:33 AM: Quote from: lovemonkey on June 04, 2009, 02:40:16 AM
Fixed.

thanks
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: Dos Equis on June 06, 2009, 11:26:27 AM: What is an "atheist nation"?
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: Colossus_500 on June 07, 2009, 10:38:55 AM: I was wanting to figure that out too. :-\
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: Deicide on June 07, 2009, 11:06:44 AM: Quote from: Colossus_500 on June 07, 2009, 10:38:55 AM
I was wanting to figure that out too. :-\

Predominantly secular country.
Title: Re: ATHEIST NATIONS are MORE PEACEFUL.
Post by: Necrosis on June 18, 2009, 08:38:18 PM: Quote from: Colossus_500 on June 07, 2009, 10:38:55 AM
I was wanting to figure that out too. :-\

not to hard to figure out, i geuss the statisitcs on intelligence and religious affliation are true as well.