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Anyone who buys carb supplements like those big buckets of maltodextrin.....Is a complete moron. Just eat some god damn rice.
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or pastry
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Anyone who buys carb supplements like those big buckets of maltodextrin.....Is a complete moron. Just eat some god damn rice.
Good point! Nice advices! Ever considered becoming a Falcon?
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Anyone who buys carb supplements like those big buckets of maltodextrin.....Is a complete moron. Just eat some god damn rice.
you ever think that some guys have enough muscle mass that their metabolisms and glycogen capacity are both so high that eating enough carbohydrate from food sources is pretty much impossible to do on a consistent basis? let alone when using high doses of insulin and you you are trying to take in hundreds and hundreds of grams of carbs within an hour or two.
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It is so easy to consume enough carbs without supplementing. Protein supplemetation makes sense though.
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It is so easy to consume enough carbs without supplementing. Protein supplemetation makes sense though.
try sitting down to 200grams of carbs from rice, along with a steak or chicken. then do it again in 3-5 hours.
good luck.
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I could easily eat 200 grams of carbs in a sitting. Big bowl of rice, pasta, mound of mashed potatoes. Shit, when I was drinking beer, I could easily go over 300 grams in a meal.
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can't see what the problem is with downing 200g of carbs
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I could easily eat 200 grams of carbs in a sitting. Big bowl of rice, pasta, mound of mashed potatoes. Shit, when I was drinking beer, I could easily go over 300 grams in a meal.
cool. how about every few hours, everyday, regardless of where you are or what your doing?
now you see why carb supps are beneficial
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or pastry
austrian pastry to be exact :P
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or pastry
pastry normally have a significant fat content.
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cool. how about every few hours, everyday, regardless of where you are or what your doing?
now you see why carb supps are beneficial
I agree with the convenience factor and I can't comment on nutritional timing on slin.
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pastry normally have a significant fat content.
depends. no problem though if fat would have been consumed anyway.
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cool. how about every few hours, everyday, regardless of where you are or what your doing?
now you see why carb supps are beneficial
If you are the type of bodybuilder who is using insulin, then your entire day revolves around eating and training. THerefore, carb supps are still stupid in my opinion.
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depends. no problem though if fat would have been consumed anyway.
true, although most bodybuilder using a high carb diet will avoid fat intake like the plague.
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If you are the type of bodybuilder who is using insulin, then your entire day revolves around eating and training. THerefore, carb supps are still stupid in my opinion.
that doesnt make sense.
let me illustrate what your saying
*bodybuilders who use insulin spend all day eating and training
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*** THEREFORE carb supplements are stupid for bodybuilders using insulin
you see, that makes no sense, your missing at least 2 premesis.
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that doesnt make sense.
let me illustrate what your saying
*bodybuilders who use insulin spend all day eating and training
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*** THEREFORE carb supplements are stupid for bodybuilders using insulin
you see, that makes no sense, your missing at least 2 premesis.
Are you taking a critical thinking class or what? 2 premesis, give me a break. Your point was that guys taking roids/insulin/gh need massive amounts of carbs so supplementing them makes sense. My point is that a guy taking all that shit is a competetive bodybuilder(if he is not then he is a moron taking all that for nothing) and most likely he would want to get his nutrition from real food, not fake, processed corn carbs. These carb supps are marketed toward stupid people who believe they need them to get bigger. Do you take a carb supp?
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Are you taking a critical thinking class or what? 2 premesis, give me a break. Your point was that guys taking roids/insulin/gh need massive amounts of carbs so supplementing them makes sense. My point is that a guy taking all that shit is a competetive bodybuilder(if he is not then he is a moron taking all that for nothing) and most likely he would want to get his nutrition from real food, not fake, processed corn carbs. These carb supps are marketed toward stupid people who believe they need them to get bigger. Do you take a carb supp?
;D
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Are you taking a critical thinking class or what? 2 premesis, give me a break. Your point was that guys taking roids/insulin/gh need massive amounts of carbs so supplementing them makes sense. My point is that a guy taking all that shit is a competetive bodybuilder(if he is not then he is a moron taking all that for nothing) and most likely he would want to get his nutrition from real food, not fake, processed corn carbs. These carb supps are marketed toward stupid people who believe they need them to get bigger. Do you take a carb supp?
theres at leats 5 different things t address in this post
- critical thinking class, took one about two years ago.
- i didnt say anything about roids or gh i just said insulin
-theres no reason why a comp. bb'er has any more right to use aa drug than any other kind of weightlifter
-most bodybuilders who are big enough that they need that much carbs will get tired of eating "real food" anfd use quite a bit of shakes
- theres no difference nutritionally between rice, bread, potatoe, etc... and dirnking carb shakes. both are real food. carbs sources arent good sources of anything but carbs. so theres no problem with driking a carb shake over having a carb meal.
- people dont need them to get bigger, people need nutrients like glucose to get bigger , and carb shakes are great sources of glucose.
-yes ill dirnk carbs, normally gatorade (but thats fructose/glucose)... sometimes i dirnk mass xxx rtds from gnc.. and soemtimes i use dextrose powder... most of my carb intake comes from white rice, yogurt, bread, fruits, and milk. but when im not hungry, or im on the go, then i use a supplement.
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theres at leats 5 different things t address in this post
- critical thinking class, took one about two years ago.
- i didnt say anything about roids or gh i just said insulin
-theres no reason why a comp. bb'er has any more right to use aa drug than any other kind of weightlifter
-most bodybuilders who are big enough that they need that much carbs will get tired of eating "real food" anfd use quite a bit of shakes
- theres no difference nutritionally between rice, bread, potatoe, etc... and dirnking carb shakes. both are real food. carbs sources arent good sources of anything but carbs. so theres no problem with driking a carb shake over having a carb meal.
- people dont need them to get bigger, people need nutrients like glucose to get bigger , and carb shakes are great sources of glucose.
-yes ill dirnk carbs, normally gatorade (but thats fructose/glucose)... sometimes i dirnk mass xxx rtds from gnc.. and soemtimes i use dextrose powder... most of my carb intake comes from white rice, yogurt, bread, fruits, and milk. but when im not hungry, or im on the go, then i use a supplement.
Powder, everyday for me, 2 serv.
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i dont see any muscles in this thread just alot of talk
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/IMG_0147.jpg)
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i dont see any muscles in this thread just alot of talk
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/IMG_0147.jpg)
So you decided to add a whitetrash hick.
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Powder, everyday for me, 2 serv.
i dirnk g2 like its going out of style
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i dirnk g2 like its going out of style
doesn't that have less carbs?
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So you decided to add a whitetrash hick.
i dont know hes pushin 30 and looks decent id say
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doesn't that have less carbs?
17g... i dirnk maybe 5-6 per day so at the end of the day its close to 100g from gatorade... of course only 50g glucose though... but recently ive been interested in the effects of fructtose so ive been playing around with my carb intake a bit
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i dont know hes pushin 30 and looks decent id say
Maybe if you are a good gay troll he may let you suck his cock!
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They are good post workout IMO.
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2 scoops Whey protein isolate 220 cal
4 scoops Waxy maize starch carb 440 cal
40 oz. water
2-4 a day ;D
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2 scoops Whey protein isolate 220 cal
4 scoops Waxy maize starch carb 440 cal
40 oz. water
2-4 a day ;D
Tried it, IDS brand, completely destroyed my stomach.
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you ever think that some guys have enough muscle mass that their metabolisms and glycogen capacity are both so high that eating enough carbohydrate from food sources is pretty much impossible to do on a consistent basis? let alone when using high doses of insulin and you you are trying to take in hundreds and hundreds of grams of carbs within an hour or two.
:D
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Tried it, IDS brand, completely destroyed my stomach.
Its hard to believe that WMS could cause stomach problems and no other foods is causing a problem. :-\
Must be some other issue going on with your digestion, but i hear you. I have to pay more for isolate due to it being 100% lactose free compared to whey concentrate which is about 85% so i dont' get any digestion problems or gas issue which happens with regular food. :(
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THIS IS THE BEST CARB SUPPLEMENT.
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??? For what, post workout?
Just get some dextrose from a home brew shop. So cheap its free.
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try sitting down to 200grams of carbs from rice, along with a steak or chicken. then do it again in 3-5 hours.
good luck.
agree. Not so stupid, I see really bbders eating and eating, and they really get tired of it, of course, if u are 160lbs guy... no sense maybe ANY supplement
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(http://www.fehd.gov.hk/safefood/food_safety_plan/images/control_juice.jpg)
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(http://www.fehd.gov.hk/safefood/food_safety_plan/images/control_juice.jpg)
I think "juice" is hardly a supplement. Not so so sofisticated, but much easier to take lots of carbs than with fruits... how can u take 4000kcal with just rice or pasta... not so easy, think about a 260lbs bber... He has a mouth not a vacuum
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I think "juice" is hardly a supplement. Not so so sofisticated, but much easier to take lots of carbs than with fruits... how can u take 4000kcal with just rice or pasta... not so easy, think about a 260lbs bber... He has a mouth not a vacum
no it's not a supplement.
This thread is about how idiotic carb supps are, juice is much healthier and has lots of carbs, if you need high GI you can add dextrose to it.
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no it's not a supplement.
This thread is about how idiotic carb supps are, juice is much healthier and has lots of carbs, if you need high GI you can add dextrose to it.
of course it's not, but it's not a product like nature offers you, it's already manufacturated. It's much healthier... not so easy, think about fructose and resting insuline, and fructose goes first to the liver, so not a very nice choice after training if what u want is to load muscle glycogen. Glucose goes straight from blood to muscle, fructose has to go first to the liver (that's why is low GI). Why healthier? vitamins? I agree its healthy about alcaline blood efect, but "healthier?"
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of course it's not, but it's not a product like nature offers you, it's already manufacturated. It's much healthier... not so easy, think about fructose and resting insuline, and fructose goes first to the liver, so not a very nice choice after training if what u want is to load muscle glycogen. Glucose goes straight from blood to muscle, fructose has to go first to the liver (that's why is low GI). Why healthier? vitamins? I agree its healthy about alcaline blood efect, but "healthier?"
Don't forget about polyphenols and other stuff.
very good for you, and you are not going to tell me that some Juice is NOT healthier than Vitargo or Waxymaize??
I agree on the fructose though, but in that case normal maltodextrin or dextrose is just fine, no need to spend money on carb supplements.
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Don't forget about polyphenols and other stuff.
very good for you, and you are not going to tell me that some Juice is NOT healthier than Vitargo or Waxymaize??
I agree on the fructose though, but in that case normal maltodextrin or dextrose is just fine, no need to spend money on carb supplements.
once again, I think dextrose or maltodextrine is a supplement, like whey protein without flavour, just pure whey. My point is that, a bb physic is not easy to keep, so I understand they use powders in spite of food and food all time.
About Juice, some is healthy, lot is a nice corridor to wc ;)
Also depends on what fruit, orange is so different to banana... (last one only has glycose, so great choice if u don't want fructose).
My question is, do u think powders (carbs or proteins) aren't useful for bber goals?
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once again, I think dextrose or maltodextrine is a supplement, like whey protein without flavour, just pure whey. My point is that, a bb physic is not easy to keep, so I understand they use powders in spite of food and food all time.
About Juice, some is healthy, lot is a nice corridor to wc ;)
Also depends on what fruit, orange is so different to banana... (last one only has glycose, so great choice if u don't want fructose).
My question is, do u think powders (carbs or proteins) aren't useful for bber goals?
More than two month i am completely away from supps and keeping my "bb physic" easily(even bigger) with foods only.
What do you say?
Just stfu and learn how to train and eat at first!
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looking damn awesome right there Kyomu !!!
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More than two month i am completely away from supps and keeping my "bb physic" easily(even bigger) with foods only.
What do you say?
Just stfu and learn how to train and eat at first!
we all know your freaking eating skill XD. U can eat 800g of protein a day, it's major league friend hahaha. It's possible, but powders sometimes makes it easier, also about people who work or study or both and they can't say "ey manager wait a moment that I have to eat my rice and tuna" ;)
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we all know your freaking eating skill XD. U can eat 800g of protein a day, it's major league friend hahaha. It's possible, but powders sometimes makes it easier, also about people who work or study or both and they can't say "ey manager wait a moment that I have to eat my rice and tuna" ;)
ANother excuse for a hardgainer.
Advanced bbers have tendency of avoiding processed food.
Think about it ,the protein powder is the most processed protein form.
In your case, just you dont have pair of balls of eating good 300g of chicken breast as a break fast since you are a Spanish who eat biscuit and milk for your breakfast.
Ok ok. Maybe you dont eat biscuit, But you are not enough tough to eat huge break fast like real man.
8 hours work? Think about it,
You eat 6am 300g of chicken breast.
right before you enter 8am,you eat 10 egg white at 7:45mins.
MAybe,in any job, they give you a 10mins coffee break, its enough to eat 300g of tuna.
And 2pm(Spanish people eat lunch at this time),you eat another 300g tuna.
You have already eaten 900g meats and 10 eggs here.
Always excusing.
As you PM me, you can visit us any time and Paco will beat you up your mind quite straight.
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ANother excuse for a hardgainer.
Advanced bbers have tendency of avoiding processed food.
Think about it ,the protein powder is the most processed protein form.
In your case, just you dont have pair of balls of eating good 300g of chicken breast as a break fast since you are a Spanish who eat biscuit and milk for your breakfast.
Ok ok. Maybe you dont eat biscuit, But you are not enough tough to eat huge break fast like real man.
8 hours work? Think about it,
You eat 6am 300g of chicken breast.
right before you enter 8am,you eat 10 egg white at 7:45mins.
MAybe,in any job, they give you a 10mins coffee break, its enough to eat 300g of tuna.
And 2pm(Spanish people eat lunch at this time),you eat another 300g tuna.
You have already eaten 900g meats and 10 eggs here.
Always excusing.
As you PM me, you can visit us any time and Paco will beat you up your mind quite straight.
Well u should know I don't eat ANY processed food, and I only eat vegetables, no egg no milk no meat. Only vegetables, plain rice, lentils, soya... And all this in its natural form, not even that "rice cakes" or not even pasta. No "white" rice, no bread... What do u think now? And of course I can eat 1kg of rice per day and another kg of lentils, it gives me 300gr of protein, but I don't eat so much because I don't wanna be 80kg, I wanna be 60, u know my goal is Bruce Lee, not Ronnie, but also u know I respect both goals so much.
I just said... maybe for some people it's easier.
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ANother excuse for a hardgainer.
Advanced bbers have tendency of avoiding processed food.
Think about it ,the protein powder is the most processed protein form.
In your case, just you dont have pair of balls of eating good 300g of chicken breast as a break fast since you are a Spanish who eat biscuit and milk for your breakfast.
Ok ok. Maybe you dont eat biscuit, But you are not enough tough to eat huge break fast like real man.
8 hours work? Think about it,
You eat 6am 300g of chicken breast.
right before you enter 8am,you eat 10 egg white at 7:45mins.
MAybe,in any job, they give you a 10mins coffee break, its enough to eat 300g of tuna.
And 2pm(Spanish people eat lunch at this time),you eat another 300g tuna.
You have already eaten 900g meats and 10 eggs here.
Always excusing.
As you PM me, you can visit us any time and Paco will beat you up your mind quite straight.
One question, I undestod u ate 800g of protein!!! no 1000g of tuna, it's "easy", but it's 200g of protein. My record is 450g of protein in 24h and it was really hard hahaha
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Well u should know I don't eat ANY processed food, and I only eat vegetables, no egg no milk no meat. Only vegetables, plain rice, lentils, soya... And all this in its natural form, not even that "rice cakes" or not even pasta. No "white" rice, no bread... What do u think now? And of course I can eat 1kg of rice per day and another kg of lentils, it gives me 300gr of protein, but I don't eat so much because I don't wanna be 80kg, I wanna be 60, u know my goal is Bruce Lee, not Ronnie, but also u know I respect both goals so much.
I just said... maybe for some people it's easier.
Then why you talk about taking protein powder?
Its a contradiction no,Mr.natural?
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One question, I undestod u ate 800g of protein!!! no 1000g of tuna, it's "easy", but it's 200g of protein. My record is 450g of protein in 24h and it was really hard hahaha
Why you eat that much? You say that you dont want to be big no?
Always excuse always...
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Then why you talk about taking protein powder?
Its a contradiction no,Mr.natural?
Because I think for some people it's useful if they like., I used it so much along 2 years, now I don't use it, but I respect if some people like. My way is not THE WAY...
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Why you eat that much? You say that you dont want to be big no?
Always excuse always...
Now I go for 60kg, before I tried to be as big and lean as possible, and u know, I used to take 20-30g of protein 8 times per day, most of them with whey. My goal is movement, no image, u also know that.
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Now I go for 60kg, before I tried to be as big and lean as possible, and u know, I used to take 20-30g of protein 8 times per day, most of them with whey. My goal is movement, no image, u also know that.
You always say same and I have never seen you big in my life. Plus, you told me that you would post your pic here in last year or something, and you didnt do it.
60kg? Gimme a break.... Are you gonna die? you are taller than 175cm.
Now I am 83kg and running 20mins everyday. But really fast. And as you know, i am shorter than you.
I feel myself i can run 1500m less than 5mins now like my 18yrs old.
And I have never seen you eating that much. And I say bullshit.
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You always say same and I have never seen you big in my life. Plus, you told me that you would post your pic here in last year or something, and you didnt do it.
60kg? Gimme a break.... Are you gonna die? you are taller than 175cm.
Now I am 83kg and running 20mins everyday. But really fast. And as you know, i am shorter than you.
I feel myself i can run 1500m less than 5mins now like my 18yrs old.
And I have never seen you eating that much. And I say bullshit.
I posted couple of pics last year, here and in Bodybuilding. Now I'm 72kg, and 174cm. I do 2 hours of spinning (as instructor) almost day yes day no, my heartbeat is 47 per minut on relax and I run 1000m in around 3 minutes, 1500m in 5 min is pretty difficult but we can try whenever u want, u have strong legs and u train hard, but 83kg is hard to move so fast and also your muscles demands so much O2... I'd like to see that! My top weight was 80kg, when I was in Melich I was around 77kg and u about 90, but of course I was much leaner than u. Also u was much stronger than me. July 1st I'll be 65kg or less (hope 60-63) and u'll recive my pic.
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I posted couple of pics last year, here and in Bodybuilding. Now I'm 72kg, and 174cm. I do 2 hours of spinning (as instructor) almost day yes day no, my heartbeat is 47 per minut on relax and I run 1000m in around 3 minutes, I don't think u can do 1500m in 5 min but we can try whenever u want. My top weight was 80kg, when I was in Melich i was around 77kg and u about 90, but of course I was much leaner than u. Also u was much stronger than me. July 1st I'll be 65kg and u'll recive my pic.
Sorry, I didnt know that you have posted here before. I apologize to you
Can you repost that pics here again?
P.S: Your 77kg looked way far from big. You had a decent body but not big at all. Let alone any bbing contest. SO, I have said i have never seen you big.
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Sorry, I didnt know that you have posted here before. I apologize to you
Can you repost that pics here again?
I have only one of that pics on my movile but impossible to connect now to this pc (i'm out home for some days because it's on reforming...). Anyway I think present is the only important thing so I'll show u present pics in few days (once I get my cam and pc again).
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Sorry, I didnt know that you have posted here before. I apologize to you
Can you repost that pics here again?
P.S: Your 77kg looked way far from big. You had a decent body but not big at all. Let alone any bbing contest. SO, I have said i have never seen you big.
Agree I've never been big, I remember u was surprised with my weight because It seems lighter. And now is much smaller but with veins on legs LOL
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Agree I've never been big, I remember u was surprised with my weight because It seems lighter. And now is much smaller but with veins on legs LOL
Great. I am looking forward to see it.
Maybe your upper body is dry as hell now..
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Great. I am looking forward to see it.
Maybe your upper body is dry as hell now..
Spinning has given me more balance between legs and upper body leaness, so I think I'm fat as hell all around! I think I'll start to be something like "lean" when I'll be 65kg maximum. Sorry Kyomu I haven't more muscle, that's the true, as we say in Spain "soy un tirillas" hahaha.
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I still think carb supps are a total waste of money and a complete scam by the supp industry,
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i drink juice post workout. good enough for me, and it doesn't cost me 60 bucks for a jug.
also, the english language is being brutalized in this thread.
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I still think carb supps are a total waste of money and a complete scam by the supp industry,
Being honest, I always suggest to my clients on gym not to wast money on carb supp XD, too easy to get them from food
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Well u should know I don't eat ANY processed food, and I only eat vegetables, no egg no milk no meat. Only vegetables, plain rice, lentils, soya... And all this in its natural form, not even that "rice cakes" or not even pasta. No "white" rice, no bread... What do u think now? And of course I can eat 1kg of rice per day and another kg of lentils, it gives me 300gr of protein, but I don't eat so much because I don't wanna be 80kg, I wanna be 60, u know my goal is Bruce Lee, not Ronnie, but also u know I respect both goals so much.
I just said... maybe for some people it's easier.
hhahaha, shoot yourself.
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Well u should know I don't eat ANY processed food, and I only eat vegetables, no egg no milk no meat. Only vegetables, plain rice, lentils, soya... And all this in its natural form, not even that "rice cakes" or not even pasta. No "white" rice, no bread... What do u think now? And of course I can eat 1kg of rice per day and another kg of lentils, it gives me 300gr of protein, but I don't eat so much because I don't wanna be 80kg, I wanna be 60, u know my goal is Bruce Lee, not Ronnie, but also u know I respect both goals so much.
I just said... maybe for some people it's easier.
that is NOT a healthy diet. why do you eat rice?
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cool. how about every few hours, everyday, regardless of where you are or what your doing?
now you see why carb supps are beneficial
This is true. Some may be able to do it for a meal or two.... But a couple days into it you won't really feel like eating six cups of rice. Carb drinks make sense.... especially for those taking slin.
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cool. how about every few hours, everyday, regardless of where you are or what your doing?
now you see why carb supps are beneficial
yeah, but thats a VERY very small minority of bbers
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that is NOT a healthy diet. why do you eat rice?
Why not? I take all my body needs from vegetables (including seaweed). I mix rice and legums because then the aminogram is complet. An amino is an amino, doesn't matter if it comes from milk, meat, or lentil... About B12 I take it from Spirulina or just a vegan multivitamin. Nuts are also important in my diet, I take 20g per day. I get EFA, proteins, good carbs, lots of minerals and vitamins... What's wrong?