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It seems pretty difficult to isolate the biceps without the brachialis having a very strong participatory role. Are there any exercises or ranges of movement that would best isolate the biceps without incorporating the brachialis too much?
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It seems pretty difficult to isolate the biceps without the brachialis having a very strong participatory role. Are there any exercises or ranges of movement that would best isolate the biceps without incorporating the brachialis too much?
wider gripped curls...str8 bar, DB curls- palms open/up the entire time, ...slowing the pace, eliminating tension in hands, forearms
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wider gripped curls...str8 bar, DB curls- palms open the entire time, ...slowing the pace, eliminating tension in hands, forearms
It seems palms up may be the key.
I have heard though, that well developed brachialis muscles 'push up' the biceps, is this true?
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why dont you want your brachialis developed? the side chest, side tricep, rear double bi, front lat spread, most muscular...all have the brachyialis on full display. IMO make or break between good biceps and average biceps. makes the arm thick from all angles, and makes it look completes from the back.
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it was always my experience that bent over/seated one arm cable curls with you elbowplanted against the inside of your thigs with little tension in the palm of your hand really emphasizing the flex at the top is a good exercise for what you want....also cable, cambered-bar drag curles focusing on the squeeze with your fists rolling back down towards your arm peak at the end of the rep.
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hammer curls but in front of and across your body
Charles Glass approvd
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why dont you want your brachialis developed? the side chest, side tricep, rear double bi, front lat spread, most muscular...all have the brachyialis on full display. IMO make or break between good biceps and average biceps. makes the arm thick from all angles, and makes it look completes from the back.
I didn't say I didn't want it developed, just wanted to hear about ways to isolate the biceps.
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hammer curls but in front of and across your body
Charles Glass approvd
How's that? ???
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wider gripped curls...str8 bar, DB curls- palms open/up the entire time, ...slowing the pace, eliminating tension in hands, forearms
Interesting - I never really thought about the tension in the forearms but it makes sense to isolate most of your tension in the biceps. Noted!
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How's that? ???
"Charles has me do hammer curls with my forearms in front and my palms
facing my body [instead of arms parallel to my sides and dumbbells
facing each other]. Then my forearms come up directly in front of my
chest so my right hand goes right in front of my left pec [and vice
versa]. We alternate arms. Doing them this way makes hammer curls focus
even more than usual on the brachialis and the outside of the biceps."
--Gunter Schlierkamp
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I think spider curls or laying pulley curls
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Why are you even asking this question when you sport this low a level of muscularity? :
Priorities, dude!
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12 ounce curls work best for these fellows...
(http://steinreunion.com/photogallery/Rita%20&%20Brian%20-%20A%20Beer%20Drinking%20Contest.jpg)
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Why are you even asking this question when you sport this low a level of muscularity? :
Priorities, dude!
Old picture. I have made improvements.
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12 ounce curls work best for these fellows...
(http://steinreunion.com/photogallery/Rita%20&%20Brian%20-%20A%20Beer%20Drinking%20Contest.jpg)
If you add weight with straps to the 12 oz curls works tremendous for the brachialis. ;D
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You can position yourself on the T-bar row apparatus and get some great bicep isolation with your dumbbells, using a variety of angles with your hands. Mix it up between normal count and slow count.
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Old picture. I have made improvements.
By 'improvements' you mean close to 10kg more of lean muscle tissue?
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Why are you even asking this question when you sport this low a level of muscularity? :
Priorities, dude!
Decide has good blue steel genetics.
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By 'improvements' you mean close to 10kg more of lean muscle tissue?
No. We can't all be huge muscle beasts like you.
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Decide has good blue steel genetics.
It's a terrible picture and I am extremely fat in it. I look better now.
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It's a terrible picture and I am extremely fat in it. I look better now.
You have been training hard?
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You have been training hard?
I have.
These already over two months old:
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/bshots009.jpg)
(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z25/Todesfick/bshots017.jpg)
and I put some other ones up a few weeks ago.
Not saying I look great but I am leaner and that angle was terrible.
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Definately looking leaner. Delts looking good.
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It seems pretty difficult to isolate the biceps without the brachialis having a very strong participatory role. Are there any exercises or ranges of movement that would best isolate the biceps without incorporating the brachialis too much?
You really shouldn't asl these questions until you built some mass in your arms first..
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You really shouldn't asl these questions until you built some mass in your arms first..
Right...well I guess I should never ask these questions because I am not going to get that much bigger. ::)
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Right...well I guess I should never ask these questions because I am not going to get that much bigger. ::)
see? you have lack of willpower...
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see? you have lack of willpower...
No. I am sure I could put some more mass on them but I don't have the genetics to be a mass monster. I do what I can, whether you believe it or not.
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No. I am sure I could put some more mass on them but I don't have the genetics to be a mass monster. I do what I can, whether you believe it or not.
Just to clear something here, im not trying to insult you in these threads, im trying to help you, which means i believe in you.
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Anyone who wants to increase arm size SHOULD use exercises that stimulate the brachialis.
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Anyone who wants to increase arm size SHOULD use exercises that stimulate the brachialis.
Look at mr strength diploma trying to educate us ::)
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Anyone who wants to increase arm size SHOULD use exercises that stimulate the brachialis.
Or add bodyweight via heavy compounds :D
Though agree Hammer curls for the win :)
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Look at mr strength diploma trying to educate us ::)
Jamie, one should try and learn as much as possible, whenever possible. I see it as my duty to educate you....... :)
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Jamie, one should try and learn as much as possible, whenever possible. I see it as my duty to educate you....... :)
no doubt about it..
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no doubt about it..
Meso = Huge Aryan bastard with muscles.
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Meso = Huge Aryan bastard with muscles.
Everyone is except us... :-\
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Everyone is except us... :-\
Yeah. I put up a new back shot pic. Starting to diet.
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Alternating Db curls and incline db curls. Supinate your forearms all the way.
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I've been doing this for years and I have the shittiest arms around ;)
but I do agree with the correlation between bodyweight and arms whilst there are exceptions like me on one end and the 200lbs 19 inch arm mesomorph78 on the other... I will have to be 300lbs to get 20 inchers :D
but I find concentrating on hammer curls, barbell curls, CGBPs etc... to help make up for me falling into the "grrr training arms is for girlie men trap" earlier on
Thats genetics bro , once past the beginer intermediate stage , curls wont do shit for arm growth.doing cleans,rows,chins heavy pressing will stimulate more growth in that area as long as diet is on song.
What are you weighing now man?
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Thats genetics bro , once past the beginer intermediate stage , curls wont do shit for arm growth.doing cleans,rows,chins heavy pressing will stimulate more growth in that area as long as diet is on song.
What are you weighing now man?
lol I removed that post,,, anyway
245lbs