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Interesting. Is this the start of a trend?
Dem Defections Give GOP Control Of New York Senate
MICHAEL GORMLEY | June 8, 2009
ALBANY, N.Y. — Republicans and two dissident Democrats took control of New York's Senate on Monday after the two New York City renegades voted with the GOP to throw the fledgling Democratic majority out of power.
The decision by senators Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens to join the coalition gave Republicans a 32-30 voting edge on hastily introduced measures that changed the leadership structure. Neither Espada nor Monserrate changed party affiliation.
Democrats held the Senate for barely five months after being out of power for four decades.
Shortly after the coup, Republicans named Espada temporary president of the Senate and Republican Dean Skelos of Nassau County vice president and majority leader. Skelos was majority leader in 2008.
Those are the most powerful positions in the chamber. With them, the bipartisan coalition can direct legislation and reassign committee and leadership posts.
Democrats tried to leave the chamber, even turning off the lights briefly, and are expected to challenge Monday's action in court.
The coup throws into doubt the movement to legalize same-sex marriage, one of the major policy issues still pending for the last two weeks of the regular session. Although passed in the Democrat-led Assembly, it is stalled in the Senate. Several Republicans and Sen. Ruben Diaz, a Bronx Democrat oppose the measure.
Another major issue has a hard deadline. A law giving the New York City mayor greater control of New York City schools is scheduled to expire at the end of the month unless the full Legislature acts. Senate Democrats have sought to take away some of Mayor Michael Bloomberg's authority while maintaining overall mayoral control. But Bloomberg and the Senate's Republican conference have been very close on policy and the billionaire mayor has funded many of their campaigns.
Sen. Thomas Libous, a Binghamton Republican, secured a vote to put Sen. George Winner of Elmira in charge of the proceedings after Democratic Sen. Neil Breslin of Albany left the chamber with the other Democrats. Minutes later, Espada and Skelos were elected to their new leadership posts by 32-0 votes with Espada and Monserrate the only Democrats in the chamber.
"This is historic," Libous said in an interview on the floor. "There is going to be reform. You are going to see things that you've never seen in Albany."
Democratic leader Malcolm Smith of Queens, who was elected majority leader in January, referred to the drama as "scurrilous action" by Republicans.
"There was an illegal vote taken," Smith said. "Let me be very clear _ very clear _ the Senate majority is in Democratic hands." He said he won't reconvene the session until the coalition drops its challenge to the leadership.
The coalition immediately approved a thick new list of rules for governing the chamber. It adjourned until Wednesday, when it plans to return to run the Senate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/08/dem-defections-give-gop-c_n_212782.html
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if the economy tanks, lots of dems will abandon the stim package.
if the economy recovers, lots of repubs abandon their party.
rats on a ship...
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if the economy tanks, lots of dems will abandon the stim package.
if the economy recovers, lots of repubs abandon their party.
rats on a ship...
They all seem to be... eh?
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They all seem to be... eh?
I live in NYS. Its a disaster and one party state run by socialists, communists, and left wing freaks.
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I live in NYS. Its a disaster and one party state run by socialists, communists, and left wing freaks.
Then leave. Who has a gun to your head keeping you there? Not even sure where NYS is myself. Or did you mean NYC?
I really hope you meant NYS because I would hate that you couldn't even abbreviate your own city name.
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Then leave. Who has a gun to your head keeping you there? Not even sure where NYS is myself. Or did you mean NYC?
I really hope you meant NYS because I would hate that you couldn't even abbreviate your own city name.
NYC is within NYS you fool.
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NYC is within NYS you fool.
It can't be. How many days has this been since your sarcasm meter failed?
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interesting read but...a coup? Really? LOL I didn't know you could...ah fuk it.
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Lurker, you got called on that one!
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Lurker, you got called on that one!
Because he couldn't detect sarcasm. Uhmm.. Ok. Whatever.
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Interesting. Is this the start of a trend?
Dem Defections Give GOP Control Of New York Senate
MICHAEL GORMLEY | June 8, 2009
ALBANY, N.Y. — Republicans and two dissident Democrats took control of New York's Senate on Monday after the two New York City renegades voted with the GOP to throw the fledgling Democratic majority out of power.
The decision by senators Pedro Espada Jr. of the Bronx and Hiram Monserrate of Queens to join the coalition gave Republicans a 32-30 voting edge on hastily introduced measures that changed the leadership structure. Neither Espada nor Monserrate changed party affiliation.
Democrats held the Senate for barely five months after being out of power for four decades.
Shortly after the coup, Republicans named Espada temporary president of the Senate and Republican Dean Skelos of Nassau County vice president and majority leader. Skelos was majority leader in 2008.
Those are the most powerful positions in the chamber. With them, the bipartisan coalition can direct legislation and reassign committee and leadership posts.
Democrats tried to leave the chamber, even turning off the lights briefly, and are expected to challenge Monday's action in court.
The coup throws into doubt the movement to legalize same-sex marriage, one of the major policy issues still pending for the last two weeks of the regular session. Although passed in the Democrat-led Assembly, it is stalled in the Senate. Several Republicans and Sen. Ruben Diaz, a Bronx Democrat oppose the measure.
Another major issue has a hard deadline. A law giving the New York City mayor greater control of New York City schools is scheduled to expire at the end of the month unless the full Legislature acts. Senate Democrats have sought to take away some of Mayor Michael Bloomberg's authority while maintaining overall mayoral control. But Bloomberg and the Senate's Republican conference have been very close on policy and the billionaire mayor has funded many of their campaigns.
Sen. Thomas Libous, a Binghamton Republican, secured a vote to put Sen. George Winner of Elmira in charge of the proceedings after Democratic Sen. Neil Breslin of Albany left the chamber with the other Democrats. Minutes later, Espada and Skelos were elected to their new leadership posts by 32-0 votes with Espada and Monserrate the only Democrats in the chamber.
"This is historic," Libous said in an interview on the floor. "There is going to be reform. You are going to see things that you've never seen in Albany."
Democratic leader Malcolm Smith of Queens, who was elected majority leader in January, referred to the drama as "scurrilous action" by Republicans.
"There was an illegal vote taken," Smith said. "Let me be very clear _ very clear _ the Senate majority is in Democratic hands." He said he won't reconvene the session until the coalition drops its challenge to the leadership.
The coalition immediately approved a thick new list of rules for governing the chamber. It adjourned until Wednesday, when it plans to return to run the Senate.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/08/dem-defections-give-gop-c_n_212782.html
According to what I just saw on CBN news, the gay "marriage" bill has been canned, at least for this legislative session.
As for a trend......that remains to be seen. But, the GOP is looking to pick off some gubernatorial slots in VA and NH.