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Title: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: 240 is Back on June 10, 2009, 01:59:39 PM
1 security guard killed.  Gunman was hit by security guard fire.

88-year old suspect connected to anti-govt and white supremacy groups.

he used a long-gun (rifle) which may have been illegal in the very anti-gun area of DC where the museum is located.

More about the suspect coming now (NBC News)....

Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: drkaje on June 10, 2009, 02:01:19 PM
Crazy old bastard.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: ToxicAvenger on June 10, 2009, 02:02:54 PM
its all over the news here and traffic around the beltway is a mess  >:(
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: 240 is Back on June 10, 2009, 02:05:11 PM
as to be expected, "Hatred from the Right" is the heading on the 5 o clock news tonight.  The killer has an anti-semetic website as well. 


It's okay to be intense, you right-wing nuts bags.... But this violence shit is getting old.  it isn't the olbermann viewers doing this shit every week...
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: GigantorX on June 10, 2009, 02:06:30 PM
as to be expected, "Hatred from the Right" is the heading on the 5 o clock news tonight.  The killer has an anti-semetic website as well. 


It's okay to be intense, you right-wing nuts bags.... But this violence shit is getting old.  it isn't the olbermann viewers doing this shit every week...


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Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: muscleforlife on June 10, 2009, 02:08:17 PM
It seems like people are losing their minds!

So far these events are politcally motivated.  
Abortion doctor
Military personnel
Holocaust museum

Looks like the tip of the iceberg.
Sandra
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 02:25:40 PM
as to be expected, "Hatred from the Right" is the heading on the 5 o clock news tonight.  The killer has an anti-semetic website as well. 


It's okay to be intense, you right-wing nuts bags.... But this violence shit is getting old.  it isn't the olbermann viewers doing this shit every week...

He also was a 9/11 loon truther. :)
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Brixtonbulldog on June 10, 2009, 02:31:58 PM
as to be expected, "Hatred from the Right" is the heading on the 5 o clock news tonight.  The killer has an anti-semetic website as well. 


It's okay to be intense, you right-wing nuts bags.... But this violence shit is getting old.  it isn't the olbermann viewers doing this shit every week...


Right, because right-wing extremists are so prevalent on this board and in this country.  ::)

That movement is so incompetent.  Remember the two meth-heads who plotted to fire on Obama with a .22 from some 1000 feet away? 

There is no "movement" like that with any influence anymore, just individual insanity.  It's not Hannity viewers or Rush listeners doing this shit either.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: 240 is Back on June 10, 2009, 02:33:03 PM
he did 6 years in prison for attempting to conduct a citizens arrest?

no word on what kinda shape the shooter is in.  
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 02:34:48 PM
He was also a "birther" like many right wing lunatics around here where they still think Obama does not have a birth certificate.


I swear this guy could be Billy Mimnaugh incarnate or is it the other way around.


In my opinion, Billy Mimnaugh with his violent streak, is a dead ringer as far as matching this guys profile.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 02:37:39 PM
He also was a 9/11 loon truther. :)

Really?
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 02:43:03 PM
Really?
Yep.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sevilla_meeting/message/379

Per this message, left on a Yahoo message board, he's also a conspiracy theorist who believes that The Jews and/ or whoever composes "the Illuminatti" are the ones who "pulled off 9/11", and that Obama is working with them. In the same message, he predicts the death of the white race by "the Negro race." Oh, and the financial crisis was staged to ensure that Democrats won in November:Whitey, kiss the blondes, redheads, and fair-skinned brunettes goodbye -- FOREVER !
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 02:46:22 PM
Yep.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sevilla_meeting/message/379

Per this message, left on a Yahoo message board, he's also a conspiracy theorist who believes that The Jews and/ or whoever composes "the Illuminatti" are the ones who "pulled off 9/11", and that Obama is working with them. In the same message, he predicts the death of the white race by "the Negro race." Oh, and the financial crisis was staged to ensure that Democrats won in November:Whitey, kiss the blondes, redheads, and fair-skinned brunettes goodbye -- FOREVER !

Sounds like a different of the typical loony 911 CT, but still loony. 
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 02:47:20 PM
I hope they hang this guy.  The Holocaust Museum is a special place. 
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 02:50:01 PM
Sounds like a different of the typical loony 911 CT, but still loony. 

I am just shocked that there are so many people, many even on this board whom I interact with daily, who act, post and feel the same way as this guy.


He could easily have spouted his rhetoric here and nobody would have blinked an eye as it is in line with many of Getbig`s republican and or conservative agenda.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: 240 is Back on June 10, 2009, 02:51:14 PM
yeah, I'm really hoping the guy lives thru this, just so they can put him on trial and let him suffer in prison.  

Remember that a large % of Americans would like to see a second 911 investigation.  This dude was something different.

This guy was a hateful, evil prick who hated entire races of people.  
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: PTB on June 10, 2009, 02:51:24 PM
people had a fit when Napolitano released that report on angry white groups out there.

With this and the Tiller murder (and the guy's threat that there is more out there), I wonder what they are saying now?
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 02:54:37 PM
I am just shocked that there are so many people, many even on this board whom I interact with daily, who act, post and feel the same way as this guy.


He could easily have spouted his rhetoric here and nobody would have blinked an eye as it is in line with many of Getbig`s republican and or conservative agenda.

You mean rhetoric like this? 

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No, they just blog stuff like the following after they didn't get their way last Nov. in California:

    *
      "Can someone in CA please go burn down the Mormon temples there, PLEASE. I mean seriously. DO IT."
    *
      "I'm going to give them something to be f--ing scared of....I'm a radical who is now on a mission to make them all pay for what they've done."
    *
      "Burn their f--ing churches to the ground, and then tax the charred timbers."
    *
      "I hope the No on 8 people have a long list and long knives."
    *
      "I swear, I'd murder people with my bare hands this morning."
    *
      "Trust me. I've got a big list of names of mormons and catholics [sic] that were big supporters of Prop 8....As far as mormons and catholics...I warn them to watch their backs."
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 02:55:35 PM
You mean rhetoric like this? 


Uh, Collosus500 is a right winger as evidenced by a lot of his other posts.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: 240 is Back on June 10, 2009, 02:56:27 PM
people had a fit when Napolitano released that report on angry white groups out there.

With this and the Tiller murder (and the guy's threat that there is more out there), I wonder what they are saying now?

oh, good point.

A member of the Obama admin had the foresight to realize these nuts would be a threat, and it turns out they are.

These right-wing people have no right to impose violence on the rest of us.  They cry about gun control, but obama hasn't made a single move to grabbing guns.  HOWEVER, when they do crimes like this, it makes politicians (and the public) get behind gun legislation.  IN other words, they hurt their own cause.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 02:58:52 PM
Uh, Collosus500 is a right winger as evidenced by a lot of his other posts.

Uh, the quotes are from leftwing loonies. 
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 02:59:13 PM
Collosus500 also failed to produce any source so he could have made the whole thing up.  Why would you bother quoting something that is potentially made up?
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:00:01 PM
Uh, the quotes are from leftwing loonies. 

Uh, I don`t see any links or any evidence that ANYONE said those things.  Can you please show me?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Fury on June 10, 2009, 03:00:41 PM
I am just shocked that there are so many people, many even on this board whom I interact with daily, who act, post and feel the same way as this guy.


He could easily have spouted his rhetoric here and nobody would have blinked an eye as it is in line with many of Getbig`s republican and or conservative agenda.

Comes with being uneducated. Most of the retards spouting their supremacist bullshit on here are high school dropouts (re: Pillowtalk) or barely scraped together a GED.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 03:05:32 PM
Uh, I don`t see any links or any evidence that ANYONE said those things.  Can you please show me?  Thanks.

Google is your friend.  They're all over the internet.  I see you simply don't want to deal with the fact your ilk has a lunatic fringe.   :)
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:09:58 PM
Google is your friend.  They're all over the internet.  I see you simply don't want to deal with the fact your ilk has a lunatic fringe.   :)
I am ASKING you to show since YOU are touting it as fact. Can you PLEASE show me EXACTLY where these words originated from and where?

I am not inclined to believe it unless there is evidence.  So far you have produced ZERO.  As far as we both know, Collosus500 made that whole tirade up. 
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: GigantorX on June 10, 2009, 03:16:18 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=80220

Here you go. It's not a fabrication like you were hoping and praying for.

Sorry..... :-\
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:19:11 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=80220

Here you go. It's not a fabrication like you were hoping and praying for.

Sorry..... :-\
What in the world is "JoeMyGod" blogspot?


I have never ever heard of that site in my life.  It certainly does not appear to be a liberal site at all.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 03:20:55 PM
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=80220

Here you go. It's not a fabrication like you were hoping and praying for.

Sorry..... :-\

Thanks.  TA you are in denial.  Given how much you use Google, etc. to post stuff on the board, you can clearly source this stuff yourself.  Duck, dodge, bob, weave . . . .
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:23:31 PM
Thanks.  TA you are in denial.  Given how much you use Google, etc. to post stuff on the board, you can clearly source this stuff yourself.  Duck, dodge, bob, weave . . . .
I still am unable to find the quotes.  I cannot find a single one.  I just glanced at his site and it seems to be filled with satire and irony.


Either way, I have never heard of "JoeMyGod" and I don`t know a single person or have come across anyone who even knows who he is.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: GigantorX on June 10, 2009, 03:25:24 PM
What in the world is "JoeMyGod" blogspot?


I have never ever heard of that site in my life.  It certainly does not appear to be a liberal site at all.

It's gays posting violent threats because they are angered over Prop 8. Use your "superior" mental/copy/paste/take other ideas and spam them as your own abilities and deduce that a vast majority of gays are Liberals and in California it would most likely be those that were burned by Prop 8. would be the ones to voice this violent rhetoric.

If some on this board can take an 88 year old man shooting at a Holocaust Museum to be part of a giant, well-organized Right-Wing Terror movement, then you can believe that these idiots on the blogs and other sites are Liberals.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:26:43 PM
I still am unable to find the quotes.  I cannot find a single one.  I just glanced at his site and it seems to be filled with satire and irony.


Either way, I have never heard of "JoeMyGod" and I don`t know a single person or have come across anyone who even knows who he is.

He had this picture posted and titled

CAPTION THIS PIC

I think JoeMyGod is far from a serious news site.  Who is JoeMYGod?

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_t6rV3U9ZEHM/Si9JhCZlq6I/AAAAAAAAWkQ/40CGD0zxfGU/s400/barbarabush.jpg)
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:28:30 PM
It's gays posting violent threats because they are angered over Prop 8. Use your "superior" mental/copy/paste/take other ideas and spam them as your own abilities and deduce that a vast majority of gays are Liberals and in California it would most likely be those that were burned by Prop 8. would be the ones to voice this violent rhetoric.

If some on this board can take an 88 year old man shooting at a Holocaust Museum to be part of a giant, well-organized Right-Wing Terror movement, then you can believe that these idiots on the blogs and other sites are Liberals.

I am not seeing any of the quotes at all.  I also don`t see anything violent on that site whatsoever.  Perhaps you can link me with something.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: GigantorX on June 10, 2009, 03:29:48 PM
I still am unable to find the quotes.  I cannot find a single one.  I just glanced at his site and it seems to be filled with satire and irony.


Either way, I have never heard of "JoeMyGod" and I don`t know a single person or have come across anyone who even knows who he is.

Wait, WorldNetDaily's article about his is filled with "satire and irony"? There quotes are all over the internet. The quotes are in the article.
And "JoeMyGod" is an internet blog, obviously. It reflects what that person and his kind are feeling.

If it was a site named "JoeGunsandAmmo" and had quotes in the same tone as those in JoeMyGod, you would have Googled it, printed it and pasted it on GetBig touting it as another indictment of the Radical Right that you found.

The title of the thread would be named "More Right Wing Extremism on The Net!" and a the article would be copy and pasted with no original thoughts of your own.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 03:30:06 PM
It's gays posting violent threats because they are angered over Prop 8. Use your "superior" mental/copy/paste/take other ideas and spam them as your own abilities and deduce that a vast majority of gays are Liberals and in California it would most likely be those that were burned by Prop 8. would be the ones to voice this violent rhetoric.

If some on this board can take an 88 year old man shooting at a Holocaust Museum to be part of a giant, well-organized Right-Wing Terror movement, then you can believe that these idiots on the blogs and other sites are Liberals.

Correct.  If the person is being consistent.  
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: GigantorX on June 10, 2009, 03:33:05 PM
Correct.  If the person is being consistent.  

Well whatever. Fair enough. But there are the quotes as he requested. Hate runs both ways, even if it doesn't happen to support ones notion at the time.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:34:02 PM
Wait, WorldNetDaily's article about his is filled with "satire and irony"? There quotes are all over the internet. The quotes are in the article.
And "JoeMyGod" is an internet blog, obviously. It reflects what that person and his kind are feeling.

If it was a site named "JoeGunsandAmmo" and had quotes in the same tone as those in JoeMyGod, you would have Googled it, printed it and pasted it on GetBig touting it as another indictment of the Radical Right that you found.

The title of the thread would be named "More Right Wing Extremism on The Net!" and a the article would be copy and pasted with no original thoughts of your own.
Forgive me for saying this, but I am a little more frightened by JoeGunsandAmmo than JoeGay.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: GigantorX on June 10, 2009, 03:35:44 PM
Forgive me for saying this, but I am a little more frightened by JoeGunsandAmmo than JoeGay.

JoeGay is out there though, waiting to burn your house down and tax its timbers!
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:39:58 PM
Wait, WorldNetDaily's article about his is filled with "satire and irony"? There quotes are all over the internet. The quotes are in the article.
And "JoeMyGod" is an internet blog, obviously. It reflects what that person and his kind are feeling.

If it was a site named "JoeGunsandAmmo" and had quotes in the same tone as those in JoeMyGod, you would have Googled it, printed it and pasted it on GetBig touting it as another indictment of the Radical Right that you found.

The title of the thread would be named "More Right Wing Extremism on The Net!" and a the article would be copy and pasted with no original thoughts of your own.
I am on his site and I just can`t seem to find any violent quotes or anything.  I will post them if I do find them, but so far its empty.


WorldNetDaily seems to have a pretty spotty record when it comes to facts and citing sources.   :-\

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily


Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 03:41:43 PM
Well whatever. Fair enough. But there are the quotes as he requested. Hate runs both ways, even if it doesn't happen to support ones notion at the time.

I agree. 
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:43:58 PM
I agree. 
I`m coming up empty.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: tonymctones on June 10, 2009, 03:47:29 PM
I`m coming up empty.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=284739.0

how about from this very website, the thread about how ppl(liberals) believe that pro life ppl should be beaten to death...
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=284739.0

how about from this very website, the thread about how ppl(liberals) believe that pro life ppl should be beaten to death...
Again, ANYONE who supports the death penalty or torture of any kind, is a complete moron in my opinion. I do not care what political party they think they belong to.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: tonymctones on June 10, 2009, 03:52:37 PM
Again, ANYONE who supports the death penalty or torture of any kind, is a complete moron in my opinion. I do not care what political party they think they belong to.
AGAIN THAT THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY...why dont you actually try to read it there is plenty of liberal hate speech in there, isnt that what you guys were talking about?
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 04:00:10 PM
AGAIN THAT THREAD IS NOT ABOUT THE DEATH PENALTY...why dont you actually try to read it there is plenty of liberal hate speech in there, isnt that what you guys were talking about?
AGAIN, anyone advocating any kind of torture via by law or by vigilantism are morons of the highest order in my opinion regardless of whatever party they think they belong to.  What more is there to say?
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: shootfighter1 on June 10, 2009, 04:35:23 PM
This is a bitter old man who is a racist, conspiracy theorist, anti-government radical.  He doesn't represent an organized right wing criticizm...he's a nut job.  Perhaps they should end his miserable life for him.  Don't try to link this guys extreme actions to groups who criticize what Obama is doing to the country.  Two totally different animals.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: jtsunami on June 10, 2009, 04:42:03 PM
my thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family, get well soon James W. von Brunn.

jt
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: tonymctones on June 10, 2009, 04:54:22 PM
AGAIN, anyone advocating any kind of torture via by law or by vigilantism are morons of the highest order in my opinion regardless of whatever party they think they belong to.  What more is there to say?
i agree

This is a bitter old man who is a racist, conspiracy theorist, anti-government radical.  He doesn't represent an organized right wing criticizm...he's a nut job.  Perhaps they should end his miserable life for him.  Don't try to link this guys extreme actions to groups who criticize what Obama is doing to the country.  Two totally different animals.
I agree with shoot

but if you want to blame this mans thoughts and actions on the right like you seem to want to do then you must hold the same to be true for the left nutjobs thoughts and actions.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2009, 05:27:31 PM
This is a bitter old man who is a racist, conspiracy theorist, anti-government radical.  He doesn't represent an organized right wing criticizm...he's a nut job.  Perhaps they should end his miserable life for him.  Don't try to link this guys extreme actions to groups who criticize what Obama is doing to the country.  Two totally different animals.
What do you think about the prevalence of those on this site who share the same views as Brunn?
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: tonymctones on June 10, 2009, 05:29:37 PM
What do you think about the prevalence of those on this site who share the same views as Brunn?
what views are those? and who shares them?
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: jtsunami on June 10, 2009, 05:30:18 PM
What do you think about the prevalence of those on this site who share the same views as Brunn?

Those who have the same views probably also have a very large knowledge of history as well, world history just not the last 100 years.

jt
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: 24KT on June 10, 2009, 07:21:54 PM
I hope they hang this guy.  The Holocaust Museum is a special place. 

No more special than any other place of employment, public gathering place, or government building.

Would you have preferred he did it in a doctor's office, a church or a mosque instead?

People should be free of terrorists and terrorism in their day to day lives in America, ...whether that be simply going to work (as in the case of the deceased security guard) or simply visiting a museum to enhance their knowledge & understanding of the world we share.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: headhuntersix on June 10, 2009, 07:52:38 PM
Wow..just when the Leftwing bullshit can't get any higher, we get this. Ur really a special kinda nutjob Jag...really.
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: jtsunami on June 10, 2009, 07:58:55 PM
I hope they hang this guy.  The Holocaust Museum is a special place. 

hahah WHAT?  for who the Jew's certainly not anyone from the US.  Why does the US even have a holocaust museum in the first place?  It should be the other way around the Jew's should have a museum dedicated to all the US soldiers who died so they can live today.

jt
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 08:54:17 PM
No more special than any other place of employment, public gathering place, or government building.

Would you have preferred he did it in a doctor's office, a church or a mosque instead?

People should be free of terrorists and terrorism in their day to day lives in America, ...whether that be simply going to work (as in the case of the deceased security guard) or simply visiting a museum to enhance their knowledge & understanding of the world we share.

 ::)
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Dos Equis on June 10, 2009, 08:55:25 PM
hahah WHAT?  for who the Jew's certainly not anyone from the US.  Why does the US even have a holocaust museum in the first place?  It should be the other way around the Jew's should have a museum dedicated to all the US soldiers who died so they can live today.

jt

This might come as a shock, but bigots are really passé these days. 
Title: Re: Shooting at Holocaust museum in DC
Post by: Mr. Magoo on June 10, 2009, 08:56:04 PM
I'm actually surprised an 88 year old guy ran a website.

But it's horrible that stuff like this happens.