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http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2009/06/10/james-von-brunn-like-most-holocaust-deniers-are-from-the-left-not-the-right
This story needs more info but it appears the Holocaust Museum shooter may be a registered "Democrat" from Maryland.
I will update later.
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This story is false so far.
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Also, on his site, holywesternempire.org, he had photos of his truck covered in Bush/Cheney 04 stickers.
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TA wasted no time in bursting that little bubble did he?
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This story is false so far.
Want to bet?????
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This story is false so far.
Source: Politico
FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they'd found the magazine's address. A senior Standard staffer confirmed the visit but declined to discuss it in detail. An FBI spokeswoman, Katherine Schweit, also declined to comment on the investigation.
Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine. They told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats. The magazine is about a mile north of the Holocaust Museum, and there's no other indication that von Brunn had targeted it. Von Brunn's published rants included attacks on "neocons," and the Standard has been at the heart of the neoconservative movement.
The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist," but the substance of his views -- which included everything from believing that President Bush may have been in on the September 11 attacks to denying that President Obama is an American citizen -- are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification.
The focus on the Standard, though, appears to be of a piece with his central motivation: Anti-Semitism. In one essay, Von Brunn attacked "JEWS-NEOCONS-BILL O’REILLY," and the suggestion that neoconservatism is a specifically Jewish conspiracy is common on the racist fringe.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Weekly_Stan...
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Want to bet?????
What you just posted is not the same as the title of this thread.
You are not too bright when it comes to accurate information. In fact, I have seen you conflate issues time and time again.
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So far there is NO evidence of Brunn being a registered Democrat.
You need to change your title perhaps.
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With that said, if you know anything about the history of the Parties, polarization among them is very common.
Southern Democrats of the 50s-60s such as Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond were of course racist when they were dixiecrats.
Of course they changed to Republicans later on to fit the polarization.
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What you just posted is not the same as the title of this thread.
You are not too bright when it comes to accurate information. In fact, I have seen you conflate issues time and time again.
Like I said, this needs to be verified. Dont you read????
My point is that this guy aseems to have been a nut of amny years who neither was far right or far left.
The MSM trying to paint this guy as some far right wing guy is not totally accurate, even though it fits their little template.
The guy hated jews plain and simple. He did 8 years from attacking a fed rserve building years ago and they knew about this guy.
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As the New Deal began to liberalize Democrats as a whole, Southern Democrats largely stayed as conservative as they had always been, with some even breaking off to form farther right-wing splinters like the Dixiecrats. After the Civil Rights Movement successfully challenged the Jim Crow laws and other forms of institutionalized racism, and after the Democrats as a whole came to symbolize the mainstream left of the United States, the form, if not the content, of Southern Democratic politics began to change. At that point, most Southern Democrats defected to the Republican Party, and helped accelerate the latter's transformation into a more conservative organization.
After World War II, during the civil rights movement, Democrats in the South initially still voted loyally with their party. The signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, however, was the last straw for many Southern Democrats, who began voting against Democratic incumbents for GOP candidates.
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Like I said, this needs to be verified. Dont you read????
My point is that this guy aseems to have been a nut of amny years who neither was far right or far left.
The MSM trying to paint this guy as some far right wing guy is not totally accurate, even though it fits their little template.
The guy hated jews plain and simple. He did 8 years from attacking a fed rserve building years ago and they knew about this guy.
I don`t see a single thing "left" about this guy. Sorry. You cannot just make stuff up.
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As the New Deal began to liberalize Democrats as a whole, Southern Democrats largely stayed as conservative as they had always been, with some even breaking off to form farther right-wing splinters like the Dixiecrats. After the Civil Rights Movement successfully challenged the Jim Crow laws and other forms of institutionalized racism, and after the Democrats as a whole came to symbolize the mainstream left of the United States, the form, if not the content, of Southern Democratic politics began to change. At that point, most Southern Democrats defected to the Republican Party, and helped accelerate the latter's transformation into a more conservative organization.
After World War II, during the civil rights movement, Democrats in the South initially still voted loyally with their party. The signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, however, was the last straw for many Southern Democrats, who began voting against Democratic incumbents for GOP candidates.
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When you plagiarize someone else's words the least you could do would be to cite the source.
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Like I said, this needs to be verified. Dont you read????
My point is that this guy aseems to have been a nut of amny years who neither was far right or far left.
The MSM trying to paint this guy as some far right wing guy is not totally accurate, even though it fits their little template.
The guy hated jews plain and simple. He did 8 years from attacking a fed rserve building years ago and they knew about this guy.
If it needs to be verified and is thus so far untrue, why did you title this thread as such. STOP spreading False information please.
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I don`t see a single thing "left" about this guy. Sorry. You cannot just make stuff up.
TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE - PLEASE TA
GO AHEAD.
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With that said, if you know anything about the history of the Parties, polarization among them is very common.
Southern Democrats of the 50s-60s such as Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond were of course racist when they were dixiecrats.
Of course they changed to Republicans later on to fit the polarization.
Yes,but the dems kept the biggest racist of all[other then Obama]Byrd.The guy was a recruiter for the Klan.
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If it needs to be verified and is thus so far untrue, why did you title this thread as such. STOP spreading False information please.
COME ON TA - TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE -
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TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE - PLEASE TA
GO AHEAD.
Difference in what? I don`t agree with any religious teachings.
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As the New Deal began to liberalize Democrats as a whole, Southern Democrats largely stayed as conservative as they had always been, with some even breaking off to form farther right-wing splinters like the Dixiecrats. After the Civil Rights Movement successfully challenged the Jim Crow laws and other forms of institutionalized racism, and after the Democrats as a whole came to symbolize the mainstream left of the United States, the form, if not the content, of Southern Democratic politics began to change. At that point, most Southern Democrats defected to the Republican Party, and helped accelerate the latter's transformation into a more conservative organization.
After World War II, during the civil rights movement, Democrats in the South initially still voted loyally with their party. The signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, however, was the last straw for many Southern Democrats, who began voting against Democratic incumbents for GOP candidates.
Fine, I will cite it for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats)
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If it needs to be verified and is thus so far untrue, why did you title this thread as such. STOP spreading False information please.
More Jew Bashing by Obama's priest of over 20 years.
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The difference between Brunn and Jeremia Wright?????
Both are left wing freaks.
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Fine, I will cite it for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats)
Thanks but I don`t understand why you felt the need to do so. The information is just as valid and furthermore you failed to cite the author, so you may want to re-learn how to cite a source if your goal is to do as such.
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The difference between Brunn and Jeremia Wright?????
Both are left wing freaks.
Brunn is surely right-wing as hating Jews and Blacks is part of the Far-Right Causes.
Is Jeremiah a religious nut? Religion seems to be right wing as well.
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Thanks but I don`t understand why you felt the need to do so. The information is just as valid and furthermore you failed to cite the author, so you may want to re-learn how to cite a source if your goal is to do as such.
Good deflection, but I wasn't the one copying and pasting articles and claiming them as my own.
Just be more careful in the future, there may be people new to this board that make think you informed or something. ;)
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More Jew Bashing by Obama's priest of over 20 years.
IT kind of sounds like he says, "Them Dudes" and not "Them Jews".
Either way religious people are dumb.
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Good deflection, but I wasn't the one copying and pasting articles and claiming them as my own.
Just be more careful in the future, there may be people new to this board that make think you informed or something. ;)
Where did I claim it as my own. Can you please show where I did that? Thanks in advance.
Also, has the validity of the information I posted changed in validity in any way?
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Brunn is surely right-wing as hating Jews and Blacks is part of the Far-Right Causes.
Is Jeremiah a religious nut? Religion seems to be right wing as well.
Wrong and you know it . Wright - is a liberation theologist and that is a left wing movement and you know it.
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Wrong and you know it . Wright - is a liberation theologist and that is a left wing movement and you know it.
I know I don`t care for religion.
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Maybe dingbat was refering to Rahm Emanuel...he would kill and eat JW, to keep from tainting Barry.
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Hating Jews is not exactly right wing. We've definitely seen a shift. Many right wing republicans are now strong supporters of Israel whereas many on the far left are Arab sympathizers.
Things aren't fitting in simple little packages anymore.
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Hating Jews is not exactly right wing. We've definitely seen a shift. Many right wing republicans are now strong supporters of Israel whereas many on the far left are Arab sympathizers.
Things aren't fitting in simple little packages anymore.
Again, your causing many on this board to jump out of windows and commit suicide with theses logical posts.
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he probably registered Dem to vote for Hilary under "Operation Chaos" upon orders from Rush ;)
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Hating Jews is not exactly right wing. We've definitely seen a shift. Many right wing republicans are now strong supporters of Israel whereas many on the far left are Arab sympathizers.
Things aren't fitting in simple little packages anymore.
This guy was anti-"Neoconservative". "Neo" as in new. As you said in this post, the strong Israeli support is recent, a major difference between traditional conservatism and neoconservatism.