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Title: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 10:51:05 AM
Source: Politico

FBI agents visited the offices of the conservative Weekly Standard magazine yesterday after a shooting at the Holocaust Memorial Museum and told employees they'd found the magazine's address. A senior Standard staffer confirmed the visit but declined to discuss it in detail. An FBI spokeswoman, Katherine Schweit, also declined to comment on the investigation.

Two other sources said two FBI agents arrived shortly after 5:00 p.m. Thursday at the 17th Street offices of the magazine. They told staffers that they had found the address of the magazine on a piece of paper associated with the shooter, James von Brunn, and asked whether the Standard had received any threats. The magazine is about a mile north of the Holocaust Museum, and there's no other indication that von Brunn had targeted it. Von Brunn's published rants included attacks on "neocons," and the Standard has been at the heart of the neoconservative movement.

The suggestion that the Standard may have been a target complicates any view of the racist shooter in contemporary left-right terms. Von Brunn's white supremacist roots put him under the rubric of a "right-wing extremist," but the substance of his views -- which included everything from believing that President Bush may have been in on the September 11 attacks to denying that President Obama is an American citizen -- are too far on the fringe to fit into conventional political classification.

The focus on the Standard, though, appears to be of a piece with his central motivation: Anti-Semitism. In one essay, Von Brunn attacked "JEWS-NEOCONS-BILL O’REILLY," and the suggestion that neoconservatism is a specifically Jewish conspiracy is common on the racist fringe.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0609/Weekly_Stan...

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Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2009, 10:57:29 AM
The only ones on THIS site who deny Obama`s birth certificate and who are Truthers happen to be Right Wingers like Brunn.


Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 11:02:23 AM
The only ones on THIS site who deny Obama`s birth certificate and who are Truthers happen to be Right Wingers like Brunn.




Amazing, the FBI says he targeted a conservative maghazine and that is the best you can do????

By the way, who pushes the 9/11 CT the most????   
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2009, 11:04:19 AM
Amazing, the FBI says he targeted a conservative maghazine and that is the best you can do????

By the way, who pushes the 9/11 CT the most????   
Alex Jones, Libertarian types.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 11:05:42 AM
Alex Jones, Libertarian types.

Go over to DU and Daily Kos and you tell me that they dont push this garbage as well.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2009, 11:06:32 AM
Go over to DU and Daily Kos and you tell me that they dont push this garbage as well.
I am registered on both.  They don`t.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 11:08:55 AM
I am registered on both.  They don`t.

Ha ha.  Come on TA, you are not dealing with some idiot poster, you know I know my stuff as you do, some of the time.  ;D

DU and Daily KOS pushed all sorts of 9/11 CT theories while Bush was in power and you know it.  Do you really want me embarass you on this???
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2009, 11:17:31 AM
Ha ha.  Come on TA, you are not dealing with some idiot poster, you know I know my stuff as you do, some of the time.  ;D

DU and Daily KOS pushed all sorts of 9/11 CT theories while Bush was in power and you know it.  Do you really want me embarass you on this???

There are people on this site who champion 9/11 CT theories and a whole host of nonsense such as the Obama Birth Certificate.  Does that make GETBIG a site that pushes these theories?
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 11:18:50 AM
There are people on this site who champion 9/11 CT theories and a whole host of nonsense such as the Obama Birth Certificate.  Does that make GETBIG a site that pushes these theories?

Not the point at all. 

The biggest CT 9/11 guy around here praises Obama like a messiah and we all know who that is.   
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2009, 11:20:24 AM
Not the point at all. 

The biggest CT 9/11 guy around here praises Obama like a messiah and we all know who that is.   
He also happens to be a Republican who did not vote for Obama.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 11:25:02 AM
He also happens to be a Republican who did not vote for Obama.

is 240 a crazy RW nut????
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2009, 11:28:38 AM
is 240 a crazy RW nut????

I just know he considers himself a Republican/Conservative who did not vote for Obama.  He voted for the Libertarian candidate, Bob Barr.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 11:30:28 AM
I just know he considers himself a Republican/Conservative who did not vote for Obama.  He voted for the Libertarian candidate, Bob Barr.

Fine, which means that people are not always pigeon holed as easily as you want them to be. 

This guy cannot be said to have all right wing views and some of his garbage is identical to what is pushed by the left wing in this country as well.   
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: shootfighter1 on June 11, 2009, 11:35:02 AM
Yeah, seems like this shooter doesn't fit in a nicely wrapped right wing package.  We have to stop labeling people so much.  This dude is an anti-government, anti-semite...and he is wacked out.  He can't be a traditional right winger but hate neo-cons.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: headhuntersix on June 11, 2009, 11:38:09 AM
He's a nut, pure and simple. The guy hated Tom Clancy..u don't get more pro republican, pro Israel then that.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2009, 11:39:48 AM
He's a nut, pure and simple. The guy hated Tom Clancy..u don't get more pro republican, pro Israel then that.
I love playing his games on xbox 360.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: GigantorX on June 11, 2009, 11:53:21 AM
Yeah, seems like this shooter doesn't fit in a nicely wrapped right wing package.  We have to stop labeling people so much.  This dude is an anti-government, anti-semite...and he is wacked out.  He can't be a traditional right winger but hate neo-cons.

Your post most likely won't even be responded to by those who can't think without some news outlet labeling these people for them.

Your post will most likely cause a lot of heads to explode and keyboards to be smashed, though.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: The True Adonis on June 11, 2009, 11:55:23 AM
Yeah, seems like this shooter doesn't fit in a nicely wrapped right wing package.  We have to stop labeling people so much.  This dude is an anti-government, anti-semite...and he is wacked out.  He can't be a traditional right winger but hate neo-cons.

333366 is one of those Right Wingers who hates Neo-Cons.  The Right-Wing is pretty expansive for sure.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: GigantorX on June 11, 2009, 11:59:12 AM
333366 is one of those Right Wingers who hates Neo-Cons.  The Right-Wing is pretty expansive for sure.
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Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 12:02:46 PM
333366 is one of those Right Wingers who hates Neo-Cons.  The Right-Wing is pretty expansive for sure.

I dont hate Jewish conservatives since that is that pejorative usually used. 

What I do find disgusting are marxist leftists destroying this country by saddling it with nonsensical programs and costs and funding it with a  printing press at the Federal Reserve backed up by nothing other than paper and ink and a promise to pay.     
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Al Doggity on June 11, 2009, 12:20:08 PM
Yeah, seems like this shooter doesn't fit in a nicely wrapped right wing package.  We have to stop labeling people so much.  This dude is an anti-government, anti-semite...and he is wacked out.  He can't be a traditional right winger but hate neo-cons.

Yes, he can. A traditional conservative and a neocon AREN'T the same thing. As a matter of fact, one could argue he hates neocons precisely because he believes he IS a traditional conservative. The whole anti-Semitic thing falls right in line with those ideals since foreign intervention in Israel is one of the most notable points of the neocon movement.

Regardless of whether or not you believe this guy is representative of the right, pretty much everything revealed about this guy- right down to his hatred of NEOCONS -exemplifies right-wing extremism.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: 240 is Back on June 11, 2009, 12:34:26 PM
is 240 a crazy RW nut????

you can suck me, dude.

YOU are the one screaming about all your guns, how you got this rife and that rifle, and you can fight like a badass.  YOU are the one starting 20 threads a day about how much you hate obama.

I'm a libertarian who enjoys my 2nd amendment rights but doesn't have a dck measuring contest about it all day like you do.

You come across as the insecure, hateful one.  I'm a guy who follows the law and understands there's gonna be crap outta DC, all you can do is vote for who you think the better candidate is, and plan your own life around the garbage they deliver to us.

And just like the two co-chairs of the 911 commission, sarah palin, and the father of reagan's star wars program, and the majority of polled americans, and the families of the victims, I support a second investigation of 911.

As much as anyone here hates my position on things, I'm not the angry hate-filled person you see in cats like Billy minmaugh.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 01:28:17 PM
240 - IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DID NOT SLEEP TOO WELL LAST NIGHT. 
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 11, 2009, 01:31:37 PM
240 - you missed my point.  You are not a RW nut but people have been saying that because this guy believed in 9/11 CT that he must have been a RW nut.

I guess you did not get that. 
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: 24KT on June 12, 2009, 01:48:55 AM
you can suck me, dude.

YOU are the one screaming about all your guns, how you got this rife and that rifle, and you can fight like a badass.  YOU are the one starting 20 threads a day about how much you hate obama.

I'm a libertarian who enjoys my 2nd amendment rights but doesn't have a dck measuring contest about it all day like you do.

You come across as the insecure, hateful one.  I'm a guy who follows the law and understands there's gonna be crap outta DC, all you can do is vote for who you think the better candidate is, and plan your own life around the garbage they deliver to us.

Ain't THAT the truth!

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And just like the two co-chairs of the 911 commission, sarah palin, and the father of reagan's star wars program, and the majority of polled americans, and the families of the victims, I support a second investigation of 911.

As much as anyone here hates my position on things, I'm not the angry hate-filled person you see in cats like Billy minmaugh.

{giggle} Isn't it amazing how quickly fatherhood can change a man?  :P
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Nordic Superman on June 12, 2009, 02:19:16 AM
I'm a libertarian who enjoys my 2nd amendment rights but doesn't have a dck measuring contest about it all day like you do.

So you have indeed switch from republican to libertarian?
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 12, 2009, 05:47:05 AM
So you have indeed switch from republican to libertarian?

No true libertarian could ever support what the current admn is doing economically. 
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Decker on June 12, 2009, 06:56:35 AM
This is too easy.

Gov. warns repubs of terrorist attacks - repubs ignore stupid gov. - US is attacked w/ 3000 dead

Gov. warns of rightwing nuts going over the edge ala Tim McVeigh - Repubs ignore - antiabortion nuts murder, police are killed in Pittsburgh and an anti-semite goes off.  We have ministers praying for Obama's death, we had crowds of rightwing nuts calling for Obama's killing at REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL RALLIES.

And the right is still miffed that it's being portrayed as unstable and dangerous?  What fucking planet are these loons on?

As for that anti-semitic nut's attack on the Weekly Standard:

The Weekly Standard is a Bill Kristol production.  He's a Jew.  Krauthammer - contributing psychopath - is a jew too as are frum and schwartz....


Hmmmm, why would a rightwing anti-semite target a magazine whose staff is predominantly jewish?

I don't know.
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: 240 is Back on June 23, 2016, 02:35:22 PM
I just know he considers himself a Republican/Conservative who did not vote for Obama.  He voted for the Libertarian candidate, Bob Barr.

True Adonis is correct, as always. 
Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: Dos Equis on June 23, 2016, 03:27:23 PM
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So I probably will vote dem. i'd love to see Obama choose a Wes Clark for a running mate, or a Jim Webb, possibly more likely, for strong military and defense credibility.

My whole family - all Republicans - are voting Obama.  i'm driving them to the station later - buying everyone dinner - making it a real family event.

Title: Re: Holocaust Shooter targeted Conservative Magazine (Weekly Standard)
Post by: 240 is Back on June 23, 2016, 09:29:08 PM


it bothers you that I voted Barr and you voted for the Palin one.