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Smart decision by Stallworth.
Report: Financial agreement avoids suit
ESPN.com news services
MIAMI -- Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte' Stallworth was sentenced to serve 30 days in jail after pleading guilty in Florida to a DUI manslaughter charge.
The plea deal announced Tuesday calls for the 28-year-old Stallworth to also serve 10 years' probation and perform 1,000 community service hours for hitting and killing 59-year-old construction worker Mario Reyes with his car. Stallworth had faced up to 15 years in prison.
Stallworth also reached a confidential financial settlement with the Reyes' family. A person close to the negotiations told The Association Press about the agreement on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk about the deal.
The person said the agreement will avoid a potential wrongful death lawsuit from Reyes' family.
Miami Beach police said Stallworth was drinking at the swank Fontainebleau hotel bar before the March 14 crash. He left to go to a nearby home -- he owns three properties in the Miami area -- in his black 2005 Bentley on MacArthur Causeway, which links the beach to downtown Miami.
Prosecutors say Stallworth hit Reyes, a construction crane operator who was rushing to catch a bus after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m. Stallworth told police he flashed his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes, who was not in a crosswalk when he was struck.
A spokeswoman for the Miami-Dade State Attorney's Office said Reyes' family has been pushing hard to resolve the case.
"We have been in intense negotiations for the past couple of days," spokeswoman Terry Chavez said. "We always take the victim's wishes into account."
Stallworth had a blood-alcohol level of .126 after the crash, well above Florida's .08 limit. Stallworth has also has cooperated with investigators and issued a statement shortly after the crash expressing sympathy for Reyes' family.
Stallworth stopped after the crash and immediately told officers he had hit Reyes. Police estimated Stallworth was driving about 50 mph in a 40 mph zone.
Stallworth signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with the Browns before last season but was injured much of the year. He also has played for New England, Philadelphia and New Orleans.
The NFL has said it will review the matter for possible disciplinary action after the legal case is completed.
David Cornwell, a Stallworth attorney handling the NFL situation, said he has kept top league officials apprised of the case.
"Whenever it is appropriate to do so, we are prepared to discuss the circumstances under which Donte' will resume his career," Cornwell said.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4262751
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Money talks......30 days for DUI manslaughter? Wow.
Florida had some very lax manslaughter laws......
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Money talks......30 days for DUI manslaughter? Wow.
Florida had some very lax manslaughter laws......
Not necessarily. The articles says he was facing 15 years. He pretty much just bought his freedom by settling up with the family.
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thats pretty despicable, i guess money can buy happiness and freedom
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i can't believe vick will serve more time than stallworth :-X
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thats pretty despicable, i guess money can buy happiness and freedom
Sad but true.
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i can't believe vick will serve more time than stallworth :-X
Vick served two years. Stallworth will serve thirty days
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Not necessarily. The articles says he was facing 15 years. He pretty much just bought his freedom by settling up with the family.
Like I said.....money talks.
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Like I said.....money talks.
Yes it does. I was referring to this part:
Florida had some very lax manslaughter laws......
He was facing 15 years.
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Vick served two years. Stallworth will serve thirty days
Blame the Judge and the family for taking the cash.
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Blame the Judge and the family for taking the cash.
Not really blaming anyone. It's another unfortunate example of how money corrupts parts of our society.
I can't fault the family for taking the money and essentially letting Stallworth walk. My problem is with the guy who engages in the same conduct, but makes $40,000 a year and can't write a seven-figure check to buy his freedom.
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Money talks......30 days for DUI manslaughter? Wow.
Florida had some very lax manslaughter laws......
24 days actually and yes, the laws down here are screwed up 8)
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Roger Goodell is cracking down on him though. I hope he gets banned for life.
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i can't believe Vick will serve more time than stallworth :-X
Why not? What Stallworth did was involuntary...it happens to thousands of people. What Vick did was full of malicious intent.
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Why not? What Stallworth did was involuntary...it happens to thousands of people. What Vick did was full of malicious intent.
Because one of them killed dogs and the other killed a person.
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Stallworth suspended indefinitely
Cleveland Browns receiver Donte' Stallworth was suspended by the NFL indefinitely without pay following his guilty plea to DUI manslaughter in the death of a pedestrian, the league announced Thursday.
Stallworth was sentenced in a Miami court Tuesday to 30 days in jail, a controversial ruling that drew a great deal of criticism.
Commissioner Roger Goodell wrote a detailed letter to Stallworth explaining the stiff penalty levied by the league.
"The conduct reflected in your guilty plea resulted in the tragic loss of life and was inexcusable," Goodell wrote. "While the criminal justice system has determined the legal consequences of this incident, it is my responsibility as NFL commissioner to determine the appropriate league discipline for your actions, which have caused irreparable harm to the victim and his family, your club, your fellow players and the NFL."
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There is no reasonable dispute that your continued eligibility for participation at this time would undermine the integrity of and public confidence in our league.
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-- Commissioner Roger Goodell
The suspension is effective immediately, but Goodell still plans to schedule a meeting with Stallworth, who signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with the Browns last year. But now it appears the team will have no choice but to cut ties with the seven-year veteran.
Browns spokesman Neal Gulkis said the team would comment later.
The last indefinite suspension handed down by Goodell was to Adam "Pacman" Jones of the Dallas Cowboys in October 2008. That punishment turned into a six-week ban.
In a memo sent to all 32 NFL teams, obtained by ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen from a team source, Goodell sought to reinforce the league's policy on "alcohol-related misconduct."
"DUI is a serious matter which poses great risks to both those who drive under the influence, and innocent third parties. This truth was tragically underscored in Mr. Stallworth's case," Goodell wrote in the memo.
"In the past few years, I have not hesitated to impose discipline, including suspensions, on club and league employees who have violated the law relating to alcohol use. Every club should advise its employees of their obligations and our commitment to hold people accountable for alcohol-related violations of law."
Stallworth caught 17 passes for 170 yards and one touchdown with the Browns last season.
Stallworth began serving a 30-day jail sentence Tuesday. He also was sentenced to two years of house arrest following his release from jail, and will be on probation for eight years. He had faced 15 years in prison.
The punishment was made possible by his cooperation with investigators and the fervent wish by the victim's family to put the matter behind them.
Stallworth, 28, also reached a confidential financial settlement with the family of 59-year-old Mario Reyes, a Miami construction worker struck and killed early on March 14 by Stallworth, who was driving drunk in his black 2005 Bentley.
But Goodell showed no mercy in the wording of his letter to Stallworth.
"There is no reasonable dispute that your continued eligibility for participation at this time would undermine the integrity of and public confidence in our league," he said.
And in his memo to the teams, Goodell made his message quite clear: "Let's make sure that the 2009 season does not bring more tragedy or embarrassment to ourselves and our employees."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4270311
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Stallworth suspended indefinitely
Cleveland Browns receiver Donte' Stallworth was suspended by the NFL indefinitely without pay following his guilty plea to DUI manslaughter in the death of a pedestrian, the league announced Thursday.
Stallworth was sentenced in a Miami court Tuesday to 30 days in jail, a controversial ruling that drew a great deal of criticism.
Commissioner Roger Goodell wrote a detailed letter to Stallworth explaining the stiff penalty levied by the league.
"The conduct reflected in your guilty plea resulted in the tragic loss of life and was inexcusable," Goodell wrote. "While the criminal justice system has determined the legal consequences of this incident, it is my responsibility as NFL commissioner to determine the appropriate league discipline for your actions, which have caused irreparable harm to the victim and his family, your club, your fellow players and the NFL."
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There is no reasonable dispute that your continued eligibility for participation at this time would undermine the integrity of and public confidence in our league.
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-- Commissioner Roger Goodell
The suspension is effective immediately, but Goodell still plans to schedule a meeting with Stallworth, who signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with the Browns last year. But now it appears the team will have no choice but to cut ties with the seven-year veteran.
Browns spokesman Neal Gulkis said the team would comment later.
The last indefinite suspension handed down by Goodell was to Adam "Pacman" Jones of the Dallas Cowboys in October 2008. That punishment turned into a six-week ban.
In a memo sent to all 32 NFL teams, obtained by ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen from a team source, Goodell sought to reinforce the league's policy on "alcohol-related misconduct."
"DUI is a serious matter which poses great risks to both those who drive under the influence, and innocent third parties. This truth was tragically underscored in Mr. Stallworth's case," Goodell wrote in the memo.
"In the past few years, I have not hesitated to impose discipline, including suspensions, on club and league employees who have violated the law relating to alcohol use. Every club should advise its employees of their obligations and our commitment to hold people accountable for alcohol-related violations of law."
Stallworth caught 17 passes for 170 yards and one touchdown with the Browns last season.
Stallworth began serving a 30-day jail sentence Tuesday. He also was sentenced to two years of house arrest following his release from jail, and will be on probation for eight years. He had faced 15 years in prison.
The punishment was made possible by his cooperation with investigators and the fervent wish by the victim's family to put the matter behind them.
Stallworth, 28, also reached a confidential financial settlement with the family of 59-year-old Mario Reyes, a Miami construction worker struck and killed early on March 14 by Stallworth, who was driving drunk in his black 2005 Bentley.
But Goodell showed no mercy in the wording of his letter to Stallworth.
"There is no reasonable dispute that your continued eligibility for participation at this time would undermine the integrity of and public confidence in our league," he said.
And in his memo to the teams, Goodell made his message quite clear: "Let's make sure that the 2009 season does not bring more tragedy or embarrassment to ourselves and our employees."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4270311
You can bet Goodell felt deep down that Stallworth got off easy, even though he would never admit that publicly. I love Goodell. He does not play around when it comes to handing down discipline. You may not get many second and third chances after you fuck up the first time. The severity of the crime involved does have a major influence, of course. But Goodell wants his NFL players to be of high character and recongnize that playing in the NFL is not your right. It's a privilige.
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Because one of them killed dogs and the other killed a person.
Yeah but stallworth didn't wake up one morning and say "I'm gonna kill a person today". But Vick had every intention of doing what he did.
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You can bet Goodell felt deep down that Stallworth got off easy, even though he would never admit that publicly. I love Goodell. He does not play around when it comes to handing down discipline. You may not get many second and third chances after you fuck up the first time. The severity of the crime involved does have a major influence, of course. But Goodell wants his NFL players to be of high character and recongnize that playing in the NFL is not your right. It's a privilige.
I agree.
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Yeah but stallworth didn't wake up one morning and say "I'm gonna kill a person today". But Vick had every intention of doing what he did.
What he did was get behind the wheel knowing he had been drinking, knowing that drinking impairs driving, and knowing that thousands of people are seriously injured and killed by drunk drivers every year. Yes what Vick did was intentional, so I agree with you to that extent. The difference is still dogs vs. people, and people are more important and more valuable than animals.
There is something wrong with a system that sends a man away for 2 years for killing dogs, but allows a man who kills a person to spend 30 days in jail. Money corrupts at so many levels. :-\
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What he did was get behind the wheel knowing he had been drinking, knowing that drinking impairs driving, and knowing that thousands of people are seriously injured and killed by drunk drivers every year. Yes what Vick did was intentional, so I agree with you to that extent. The difference is still dogs vs. people, and people are more important and more valuable than animals.
There is something wrong with a system that sends a man away for 2 years for killing dogs, but allows a man who kills a person to spend 30 days in jail. Money corrupts at so many levels. :-\
He definitely deserved more than 30 days...but the way you made it sound was that Vick didn't deserve two years.
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Why not? What Stallworth did was involuntary...it happens to thousands of people. What Vick did was full of malicious intent.
the fact is he was drunk behind the wheel, THAT was voluntary. Sure he didnt mean it. Big deal. "involuntary". That's shit.
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He definitely deserved more than 30 days...but the way you made it sound was that Vick didn't deserve two years.
He didn't. I could see him doing some time, but with all of the other consequences (loss of his job, loss of his property, loss of endorsements, fines, state court prosecution, bankruptcy, and becoming a pariah), two years was just overkill. The fact we (society) lock up someone like Vick for two years and let others who kill people basically walk is shameful. People like Stallworth are a much bigger threat to society than people like Vick.
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He didn't. I could see him doing some time, but with all of the other consequences (loss of his job, loss of his property, loss of endorsements, fines, state court prosecution, bankruptcy, and becoming a pariah), two years was just overkill. The fact we (society) lock up someone like Vick for two years and let others who kill people basically walk is shameful. People like Stallworth are a much bigger threat to society than people like Vick.
Vick and Stallworth's case have nothing to do with each other. One can be used as an example of how to handle yourself properly during an investigation and the other couldnt have been handled worse.
Stallworth was completely cooperative with the police, complied with the sobriety tests, didnt lie, was willing to offer financial support to the victims family. The financial settlement was was a result of a mutual agreement between the victim's family and Stallworth. The fact that the man darted out on the the street and not in a crosswalk also had an effect. Coupled with the fact that Stallworth had no previous criminal record or even a single traffic violation.
Vick on the other hand financed the operation for years, knew what he was doing was illegal, lied to the feds on more than one occasion, failed a drug test during the court process and would not admit guilt until he had no choice.
this has nothing to do with comparing the value of a dogs life and a humans life. Both cases were handled correctly IMO.
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yes someone without the $$ Stallworth had would not be so fortunate, but that follows life. People with more money can afford better lawyers and doctors better cars and so forth
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Vick and Stallworth's case have nothing to do with each other. One can be used as an example of how to handle yourself properly during an investigation and the other couldnt have been handled worse.
Stallworth was completely cooperative with the police, complied with the sobriety tests, didnt lie, was willing to offer financial support to the victims family. The financial settlement was was a result of a mutual agreement between the victim's family and Stallworth. The fact that the man darted out on the the street and not in a crosswalk also had an effect. Coupled with the fact that Stallworth had no previous criminal record or even a single traffic violation.
Vick on the other hand financed the operation for years, knew what he was doing was illegal, lied to the feds on more than one occasion, failed a drug test during the court process and would not admit guilt until he had no choice.
this has nothing to do with comparing the value of a dogs life and a humans life. Both cases were handled correctly IMO.
I understand your point, and how a person responds after committing a crime is important. But how the respective players conducted themselves after committing their respective crimes isn't the issue for me with these two. It's the crime itself and the punishment each received. It has everything to do with comparing the value of animals versus people. People are more important. The punishment for killing a person should always be greater than the punishment for killing animals.
I actually don't think either case was handled correctly.
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yes someone without the $$ Stallworth had would not be so fortunate, but that follows life. People with more money can afford better lawyers and doctors better cars and so forth
True. Money is not supposed to have that kind of impact on the criminal justice system, but it does. That's why OJ was free for so long.
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True. Money is not supposed to have that kind of impact on the criminal justice system, but it does. That's why OJ was free for so long.
This is a huge problem that should not be accepted.
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This is a huge problem that should not be accepted.
Not really anything we can do about it. :-\
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The difference is still dogs vs. people, and people are more important and more valuable than animals.
i disagree most people are assholes :P
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i disagree most people are assholes :P
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I treat my dogs better then i treat most people!! 8) My two oldest doggies have their own love seats 8)
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i disagree most people are assholes :P
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Some, not most. I guess it depends on where you live. :)
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I understand your point, and how a person responds after committing a crime is important. But how the respective players conducted themselves after committing their respective crimes isn't the issue for me with these two. It's the crime itself and the punishment each received. It has everything to do with comparing the value of animals versus people. People are more important. The punishment for killing a person should always be greater than the punishment for killing animals.
I actually don't think either case was handled correctly.
Beach, the reason why the public got so upset over Vick is because they could relate to the case. Most people only had to look a couple feet to the right or to the left to see their dog looking back at them. They said to themselves "how could that monster do such terrible things to such a nice animal". If most of the public had a relative killed by a drunk driver, there would have been more outrage. Also, most people are guilty of driving intoxicated at one time or another, and "those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Stallworth was not out to harm anyone and he showed an extreme amount of remorse; not to mention he's rich. He can do more good out of jail anyway. His community service will force him to educate others on the dangers of having a few drinks to many.
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Beach, the reason why the public got so upset over Vick is because they could relate to the case. Most people only had to look a couple feet to the right or to the left to see their dog looking back at them. They said to themselves "how could that monster do such terrible things to such a nice animal". If most of the public had a relative killed by a drunk driver, there would have been more outrage. Also, most people are guilty of driving intoxicated at one time or another, and "those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Stallworth was not out to harm anyone and he showed an extreme amount of remorse; not to mention he's rich. He can do more good out of jail anyway. His community service will force him to educate others on the dangers of having a few drinks to many.
Yeah I understand the outrage over Vick. What he did was inexcusable. Just like any other person who abuses dogs. No question people who abuse dogs should be punished.
I do not agree about drunk driving. I wouldn't say most people are guilty of it at one point or another. Even if they are, it's still a far more serious crime than abusing animals. Any crime that endangers the lives of people is very serious. I went back and forth with someone (Earl?) in another thread already about whether death as a result of drunk driving is "intentional." I maintain it is, because everyone who drives knows that alcohol impairs driving and kills thousands of people every year. A drunk driver doesn't necessarily target a specific person, but it's no different than pointing a partially loaded gun at someone and pulling the trigger.
Drunk driving is head and shoulders a more pervasive problem and causes substantially more harm than animal cruelty.
Regarding Stallworth doing more good outside of prison, you could make the same statements about Vick. What should happen is Stallworth should do his public service, help the community, etc. after he spends more than 30 days in jail.
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would you guys kill a person before you would kill your dog.
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Neither.
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Some, not most. I guess it depends on where you live. :)
like china where they eat dogs?
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would you guys kill a person before you would kill your dog.
i can kill a person for self defense, name one good reason for me to ever kill my dog
and "beach bum" i don't think you know what the word "intentional" means
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like china where they eat dogs?
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You mean the Philippines?
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i can kill a person for self defense, name one good reason for me to ever kill my dog
and "beach bum" i don't think you know what the word "intentional" means
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"Earl" I don't think you know what the word "accident" means.
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"Earl" I don't think you know what the word "accident" means.
actually yeah i do
stallworth had an accident, vick's incident was intentional
hope that clears up any confusion ;)
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actually yeah i do
stallworth had an accident, vick's incident was intentional
hope that clears up any confusion ;)
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As I suspected. You really don't understand the distinction.
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As I suspected. You really don't understand the distinction.
so you are saying stallworth got behind the wheel and said "i feel like running somebody over with my car"
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so you are saying stallworth got behind the wheel and said "i feel like running somebody over with my car"
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Nope. I'm saying when you get behind the wheel of a car while drunk, the fact you hit and kill someone isn't an "accident." It's reckless behavior. Reckless behavior always has some kind of conscious element, where you know that your conduct can either injure or kill someone. That's why Stallworth was facing 15 years in prison. You don't go to prison for 15 years because of an "accident."
This exchange feels like deja vu all over again. :D
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Nope. I'm saying when you get behind the wheel of a car while drunk, the fact you hit and kill someone isn't an "accident." It's reckless behavior. Reckless behavior always has some kind of conscious element, where you know that your conduct can either injure or kill someone. That's why Stallworth was facing 15 years in prison. You don't go to prison for 15 years because of an "accident."
This exchange feels like deja vu all over again. :D
right because if the accident was intentional he would be going to prison for at least 15 years :)
i wouldn't be surprised if stallworth, like many people that drive after drinking didn't think he was drunk
if he felt his drinking would drastically affect his driving skills he probably wouldn't have gotten behind the wheel
vick on the other hand intentionally slaughtered innocent animals that just wanted to be loved
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right because if the accident was intentional he would be going to prison for at least 15 years :)
No, the story says "Stallworth had faced up to 15 years in prison" for what you are calling an "accident."
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No, the story says "Stallworth had faced up to 15 years in prison" for what you are calling an "accident."
nobody ever goes away for 15 years in a drunk driving accident
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nobody ever goes away for 15 years in a drunk driving accident
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Yes they do.
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Yes they do.
example?
there are tons of drunk driving fatalities every day, i've yet to hear of any of them going to jail for 15 years
5 at most
always hear of drunk driving accidents but never "dog fighting accidents" :D
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example?
there are tons of drunk driving fatalities every day, i've yet to hear of any of them going to jail for 15 years
5 at most
always hear of drunk driving accidents but never "dog fighting accidents" :D
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Patrick Ballard Pleads Guilty To Manslaughter
By Chad Petri Reporter
Published: Thu, January 15, 2009 - 4:01 pm Last Updated: Thu, January 15, 2009 - 5:22 pm
The man who hit and killed two Baldwin County bicyclists on Labor Day in 2007 has pleaded guilty to a lesser charge.
Patrick Ballard was originally charged with murder for the deaths of Archie Clemons and Bill Imle. Prosecutors say Ballard was drunk at the time of the accident on Bromley Road near Stapleton.
Ballard was scheduled to go to trial February second, but he pleaded guilty to manslaughter on Thursday afternoon. As part of the plea deal, he was sentenced to 20 years in prison on both counts. The judge ruled Ballard will serve the sentences consecutively. He faces up to 40 years in jail.
http://www.wkrg.com/crime/article/ballard_case_update/22695/
Thirty-five year sentence for this repeat offender: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19880610&id=55wTAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7AYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4356,1946341
Driver gets 18 years for death of woman, 21
Corey Bieniek was driving drunk, speeding at time of accident
BY JESSICA SMITH Staff Writer
Ajudge sentenced Corey Bieniek to 18 years in prison last week for causing the death of 21-year-old Samar Seliem, who had been backing out of her driveway when Bieniek's speeding vehicle hit her car.
Bieniek, 20, of the Cliffwood Beach section, had been driving while intoxicated when he hit Seliem's vehicle in front of her family's Marlboro Road home Dec. 30. . . . .
http://suburban.gmnews.com/news/2007/1206/front_page/002.html
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2 out of millions ain't bad ;)
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This argument is going nowhere. Vick deserved every ounce of punishment he got. Stallworth deserved more.
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Jim Brown: Marijuana involved in Stallworth accident
Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown, who remains a senior member of Cleveland Browns management, suggested on Friday that Browns receiver Donte' Stallworth was smoking marijuana on the evening/morning of the accident that claimed the life of 59-year-old Mario Reyes. Brown made his remarks during an appearance on 790 The Ticket's The Dan LeBatard Show. "This situation is a tragedy all around, but what was involved was alcohol and marijuana," Brown said. "On one hand, DUI is a very serious thing in America. Marijuana of course is against all the rules." Brown explained that he has some "inside information that says that that was also a part of what was detected," presumably in the blood test imposed on Stallworth. Brown said he's not "100 percent sure" that this is true, but Brown said he spoke with a "very reliable source" who shared this information.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/107232-jim-brown-marijuana-involved-in-stallworth-accident
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This report comes out AFTER sentencing is handed down? Something pretty fishy about that....
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Jim Brown: Marijuana involved in Stallworth accident
Hall of Fame running back Jim Brown, who remains a senior member of Cleveland Browns management, suggested on Friday that Browns receiver Donte' Stallworth was smoking marijuana on the evening/morning of the accident that claimed the life of 59-year-old Mario Reyes. Brown made his remarks during an appearance on 790 The Ticket's The Dan LeBatard Show. "This situation is a tragedy all around, but what was involved was alcohol and marijuana," Brown said. "On one hand, DUI is a very serious thing in America. Marijuana of course is against all the rules." Brown explained that he has some "inside information that says that that was also a part of what was detected," presumably in the blood test imposed on Stallworth. Brown said he's not "100 percent sure" that this is true, but Brown said he spoke with a "very reliable source" who shared this information.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/107232-jim-brown-marijuana-involved-in-stallworth-accident
The former woman beater - accused rapist on his soapbox :-\
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Not only that but married to a woman that was more than half his age who he smacked around.
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Yes Jim Brown is a wife beater, punk, louse, etc. But what about Stallworth possibly being high and drunk when he killed the pedestrian? That doesn't bother anyone?
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Yes Jim Brown is a wife beater, punk, louse, etc. But what about Stallworth possibly being high and drunk when he killed the pedestrian? That doesn't bother anyone?
You're missing the point. We are bitching because yet another former scumbag is up on a soapbox "preaching".
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Yes Jim Brown is a wife beater, punk, louse, etc. But what about Stallworth possibly being high and drunk when he killed the pedestrian? That doesn't bother anyone?
i dont think being high would have changed his sentence.
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You're missing the point. We are bitching because yet another former scumbag is up on a soapbox "preaching".
I didn't miss the point. I acknowledged "Jim Brown is a wife beater, punk, louse, etc."
My point was the Stallworth may have been drunk and high. That doesn't bother you?
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i dont think being high would have changed his sentence.
I wasn't suggesting it would. Only wondering if being drunk and high would change the viewpoint of those who don't really have much of a problem with what Stallworth did.
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I didn't miss the point. I acknowledged "Jim Brown is a wife beater, punk, louse, etc."
My point was the Stallworth may have been drunk and high. That doesn't bother you?
Yes it does, but we are talking about Jim Brown being a fool who lacks credibility
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Yes it does, but we are talking about Jim Brown being a fool who lacks credibility
Yes he's a fool.
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Donte' Stallworth had marijuana in blood, sources say
After fatally striking a pedestrian on the MacArthur Causeway in a March drunk driving accident, Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte' Stallworth also tested positive for marijuana use, law enforcement sources say.
Stallworth, 28, is serving one month in jail after pleading guilty last month to DUI manslaughter.
Miami-Dade prosecutors say his blood alcohol level was .126, well above the legal limit, when his Bentley hit and killed Mario Reyes, 59, on the morning of March 14.
Stallworth's test results, which have yet to be released, showed traces of marijuana, according to sources with knowledge of the results.
In 2007, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported that Stallworth was in the NFL's substance abuse program for an unspecified reason.
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http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/breaking-news/story/1121770.html
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Browns WR Braylon Edwards didn't need this: Fellow WR Donte Stallworth relays that he had met up with Edwards prior to the fatal accident in Florida and put back a few Tequilas from Edwards' table. Stallworth and Edwards were partying around 2AM, and the accident occurred around 7:15AM, as Stallworth was driving out to grab breakfast.
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Put back a few drinks and smoked some weed.
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Stallworth released today after serving 24 days in jail. The ultimate slap on the wrist. Very interested to see what the commish does.
Stallworth completes jail term
ESPN.com news services
MIAMI -- Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte' Stallworth has been released from a Miami jail after serving 24 days for DUI manslaughter.
His attorney, Christopher Lyons, said Stallworth was released from the Turner Guilford Knight Correctional Center early Friday.
The 28-year-old Stallworth served 24 days of the 30-day jail sentence after pleading guilty to DUI manslaughter.
Stallworth's car struck and killed a pedestrian, 59-year-old Mario Reyes, in an early-morning crash March 14. In a recorded interview, Stallworth told police he drank up to four shots of premium tequila while partying with friends at a Miami Beach club, but did not feel drunk in the hours before he struck Reyes.
Lab tests later showed Stallworth had a blood-alcohol level of .126, above Florida's .08 limit.
Stallworth also reached an undisclosed financial settlement with Reyes' family, which factored into his relatively light sentence.
The receiver has been suspended indefinitely by the NFL. He signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with the Browns before last season but was injured much of the year, finishing with 17 catches for 170 yards and a touchdown.
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Does he still get paid at all during this indefinite suspension?