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Title: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: 240 is Back on June 16, 2009, 10:22:40 PM
Conservative commenter Pat Buchanan rarely has kind things to say about Barack Obama. But on the issue of the Iranian election, Buchanan has emerged as an unlikely supporter of the president's approach.

In a Townhall column Tuesday, Buchanan analyzed the presidential election results and commented on the implication of the outcome for Iran and America.

Buchanan writes: "Obama, with his outstretched hand, his message to Iran on its national day, his admission that the United States had a hand in the 1953 coup in Tehran, his assurances that we recognize Iran's right to nuclear power, succeeded. He stripped the Ayatollah and Ahmadinejad of their clinching argument -- that America is out to destroy Iran and they are indispensable to Iran's defense."

Buchanan is not alone among conservatives in taking this moment to stand behind the president.

Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: 2ND COMING on June 16, 2009, 10:26:42 PM
hannity has been bithing about irans mess and puts it on obama.

he keeps saying "wheres obama"

i though hannity was supposed to be a conservative?
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: grab an umbrella on June 17, 2009, 01:49:40 AM
Heaven fucking forbid two different people have two different opinions.
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on June 17, 2009, 01:58:23 AM
hannity has been bithing about irans mess and puts it on obama.

he keeps saying "wheres obama"

i though hannity was supposed to be a conservative?
hannity is a neocon trying to hide as a conservative and Pat is a conservative.
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: Deicide on June 17, 2009, 03:57:56 AM
hannity is a neocon trying to hide as a conservative and Pat is a conservative.

Hugo, I think you give too much credit to Hannity. He isn't anything other than pond scum.
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: 240 is Back on June 17, 2009, 05:42:29 AM
Obama is very smart to just stay outta things over there. 

Hannity mad Obama's not getting involved - which would only unite the population behind ahmedijahad.

it's like seeing your two worst enemies beating the shit out each other in an alley.  Do you REALLy want to call the police and break it up?  Or do you just have a drink, smile, and enjoy the show?

Also, I'd like to see what hannity thinks obama shuold do.  Would anyone here do anything besides just wait and let the world and iran population bash ahmedijahad?
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: BM OUT on June 17, 2009, 06:28:19 AM
I dont understand why so many in this country think we ALWAYS have to stick our nose in other countries buisiness.Dont we have enough on our plate here?
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on June 17, 2009, 07:09:09 AM
Hugo, I think you give too much credit to Hannity. He isn't anything other than pond scum.
I don't give him any credit.  If you've read my posts on Hannity, you would know this :)  I've frequently pointed out that.  For years he was a neocon propaganda outlet, right up to the day they lost power at which point he switched overnight and pretended he was always a conservative.  In other words the guy has no political loyalties on the right.  He'll do and say whatever to keep his job of annoying us all.  No credit given, I see this as a well earned and accurate insult.
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: Deicide on June 17, 2009, 07:12:05 AM
I don't give him any credit.  If you've read my posts on Hannity, you would know this :)  I've frequently pointed out that.  For years he was a neocon propaganda outlet, right up to the day they lost power at which point he switched overnight and pretended he was always a conservative.  In other words the guy has no political loyalties on the right.  He'll do and say whatever to keep his job of annoying us all.  No credit given, I see this as a well earned and accurate insult.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on June 17, 2009, 07:13:33 AM
I dont understand why so many in this country think we ALWAYS have to stick our nose in other countries buisiness.Dont we have enough on our plate here?
wow!!!  That's a great idea... I agree 100%  Several past administrations do not and the worst offenders seem to have been republican administrations.
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: 240 is Back on June 17, 2009, 07:21:02 AM
I dont understand why so many in this country think we ALWAYS have to stick our nose in other countries buisiness.Dont we have enough on our plate here?

cause we got to be #1 by exploiting every situation with every country.

Same as every other world leader does.

We're just better at it than everyone else.
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: BM OUT on June 17, 2009, 07:34:20 AM
cause we got to be #1 by exploiting every situation with every country.

Same as every other world leader does.

We're just better at it than everyone else.

Dont you think its why we are in the place we are.We stick our nose in middle east policy,which we have ZERO understanding of,to protect Isreal and the entire Muslim world hates us.Its amusing that so many sream at the government trying to controll our lives,yet applaud when we try to controll others lives.Iran had an election,the guy who won probably rigged it,THEY can work it out.Christ,we had election in 2000 that many claim was rigged,would we allow Iran to come in here and say "nope,we are going to determine the winner".
Title: Re: Hell has frozen over! Pat Buchanan supports Obama on Iran....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on June 17, 2009, 07:38:42 AM
Dont you think its why we are in the place we are.We stick our nose in middle east policy,which we have ZERO understanding of,to protect Isreal and the entire Muslim world hates us.Its amusing that so many sream at the government trying to controll our lives,yet applaud when we try to controll others lives.Iran had an election,the guy who won probably rigged it,THEY can work it out.Christ,we had election in 2000 that many claim was rigged,would we allow Iran to come in here and say "nope,we are going to determine the winner".
Would be cool if more people thought like this.  Were you concerned about this during the Bush admin?