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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: Straw Man on June 17, 2009, 08:37:21 PM
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#31416478
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interesting developments, thanks for posting.
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are they rioting because adam lambert lost to Chris in the finals?
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Iran is a young country. I believe the median age in all the major metro areas is 28. The ayatollah will not hold them down forever. They want democracy and progression.
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Iran is a young country. I believe the median age in all the major metro areas is 28. The ayatollah will not hold them down forever. They want democracy and progression.
An automatic weapon in the hands of a police officer can mow down many 28 year olds in a matter of seconds. Don't think the Ayatollah's wouldn't do that. They don't play that "rebellion" shit over there. They will cut off your head before going off to eat lunch.
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An automatic weapon in the hands of a police officer can mow down many 28 year olds in a matter of seconds. Don't think the Ayatollah's wouldn't do that. They don't play that "rebellion" shit over there. They will cut off your head before going off to eat lunch.
that possible outcome depends upon the supreme RELIGIOUS leaders' willingness to cut your head off
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that possible outcome depends upon the supreme RELIGIOUS leaders' willingness to cut your head off
Sharia Law, baby...respect it. :P
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Pirate Bay has chosen to show their solidarity with the people of Iran
check out their web site and what they've done to their logo: http://www.piratebay.org
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Latest reports on Twitter is that the Basiji are vandalyzing private property in an attempt to cast blame on protestors
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An automatic weapon in the hands of a police officer can mow down many 28 year olds in a matter of seconds. Don't think the Ayatollah's wouldn't do that. They don't play that "rebellion" shit over there. They will cut off your head before going off to eat lunch.
It's only a matter of time. As I said, the median age of Iran is 28. These people will grow into power. The Ayatollah is on borrowed time.
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It's only a matter of time. As I said, the median age of Iran is 28. These people will grow into power. The Ayatollah is on borrowed time.
"Borrowed time" can last a long time, my friend. I don't know...I think I am much more skeptical than you. Yes, there is a very large young population there, but there isn't really a history of a successful overthrow of a theocratic government in that region.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#31416478
Funny thing is people in IRAN are watching the news about america and saying 'are you guys watching this'?..tent cities, foreclosures, job losses, manufacturing closures, business closures, wild mindless spending of TRILLIONS to help the very crooks who destroyed america etc etc etc. While this american CIA stirred up protest and attempted revolution
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/obama-iran-twitter
may look good when viewed from one side of the pond, america needs to concern itself with resolving its OWN PROBLEMS. No country that has embraced democracy or american ideals has ever come out better than it was prior... and as a matter of fact these countries end up worst off. So called democracy does not work in america...how will it work elsewhere?
Nonetheless let the Iranian people solve their own problems and you americans protest, riot and solve your own...
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Funny thing is people in IRAN are watching the news about america and saying 'are you guys watching this'?..tent cities, foreclosures, job losses, manufacturing closures, business closures, wild mindless spending of TRILLIONS to help the very crooks who destroyed america etc etc etc. While this american CIA stirred up protest and attempted revolution
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/obama-iran-twitter
may look good when viewed from one side of the pond, america needs to concern itself with resolving its OWN PROBLEMS. No country that has embraced democracy or american ideals has ever come out better than it was prior... and as a matter of fact these countries end up worst off. So called democracy does not work in america...how will it work elsewhere?
Nonetheless let the Iranian people solve their own problems and you americans protest, riot and solve your own...
are saying we should be protesting to throw over democracy in the US?
if so, then what should the mob replace it with?
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Funny thing is people in IRAN are watching the news about america and saying 'are you guys watching this'?..tent cities, foreclosures, job losses, manufacturing closures, business closures, wild mindless spending of TRILLIONS to help the very crooks who destroyed america etc etc etc. While this american CIA stirred up protest and attempted revolution
http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/proof-israeli-effort-to-destabilize-iran-via-twitter/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/17/obama-iran-twitter
may look good when viewed from one side of the pond, america needs to concern itself with resolving its OWN PROBLEMS. No country that has embraced democracy or american ideals has ever come out better than it was prior... and as a matter of fact these countries end up worst off. So called democracy does not work in america...how will it work elsewhere?
Nonetheless let the Iranian people solve their own problems and you americans protest, riot and solve your own...
Should we be surprised that a koran thumping, Sharia Law endorsing, Muslim jihadist supports the Iranian oppression of free speech? Shouldn't you be running around clubbing 20 and 30 year old skulls like the rest of the religious whack jobs over in Iran?
Remember, Allah loves you and thinks it's ok for you to beat and murder people for disagreeing with your views on government! ::)
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Should we be surprised that a koran thumping, Sharia Law endorsing, Muslim jihadist supports the Iranian oppression of free speech? Shouldn't you be running around clubbing 20 and 30 year old skulls like the rest of the religious whack jobs over in Iran?
Remember, Allah loves you and thinks it's ok for you to beat and murder people for disagreeing with your views on government! ::)
OK...believe what you will, but are you at all concerned about the now FALLEN AMERICA?
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OK...believe what you will, but are you at all concerned about the now FALLEN AMERICA?
Let me get this straight. You're telling us not to worry about Iran because we're not there yet you, who doesn't live in America, does nothing but obsess over us day in and day out. Hi hypocrite! :D
This gimmick is old now. You can't even work it correctly. You just end up self-owning yourself every time you post. I'll give you props for longevity. The stupid always stick to something thinking that it will turn around eventually but it's not going to happen in your gimmick's case. :-\
Shouldn't you be taking it up the ass from your local sheik like the good little wannabe Muslim you are?
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Let me get this straight. You're telling us not to worry about Iran because we're not there yet you, who doesn't live in America, does nothing but obsess over us day in and day out. Hi hypocrite! :D
This gimmick is old now. You can't even work it correctly. You just end up self-owning yourself every time you post. I'll give you props for longevity. The stupid always stick to something thinking that it will turn around eventually but it's not going to happen in your gimmick's case. :-\
Shouldn't you be taking it up the ass from your local sheik like the good little wannabe Muslim you are?
I am telling you to be concerned about the affairs of your own nation...and stay out of others like your constitution says.
BTW..funny how you are concerned about DEMOCRACY AND FREE SPEECH in Iran yet you HATE all Arabs...Isn't that strange??? or is that an american trait? Concerned about the Iraqi and their rights (supposedly) but then go into an illegal war with Iraq and kill 1.5 million of them...talk about HYPOCRIT!!!!
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I am telling you to be concerned about the affairs of your own nation...and stay out of others like your constitution says.
BTW..funny how you are concerned about DEMOCRACY AND FREE SPEECH in Iran yet you HATE all Arabs...Isn't that strange??? or is that an american trait? Concerned about the Iraqi and their rights (supposedly) but then go into an illegal war with Iraq and kill 1.5 million of them...talk about HYPOCRIT!!!!
It's "hypocritE" dipshit. And you're still avoiding my question. You, in your gimmick's wisdom, have said that you don't live in America. Yet all you do is obsess over us day in and day out. You are a HYPOCRITE. The fact that you can't see the irony in your attempts to control free speech only go to show how lacking your intellectual capacity really is.
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It's "hypocritE" dipshit. And you're still avoiding my question. You, in your gimmick's wisdom, have said that you don't live in America. Yet all you do is obsess over us day in and day out. You are a HYPOCRITE. The fact that you can't see the irony in your attempts to control free speech only go to show how lacking your intellectual capacity really is.
You have avoided answering may questions multiple times...So I will repeat them.
Are you at all concerned about the now FALLEN AMERICA?
So called democracy does not work in america...how will it work elsewhere?
How is it you are concerned about DEMOCRACY AND FREE SPEECH in Iran yet you HATE all Arabs?
Be concerned about the affairs of your own nation...and stay out of others like your constitution says.
Without the mindless rhetoric you spew just answer the questions above or give you opinion on the statements.
BTW I don't obsess at all about america... I only enlighten to facts and wonder why americans don't respond to their own troubles.
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You have avoided answering may questions multiple times...So I will repeat them.
Are you at all concerned about the now FALLEN AMERICA?
So called democracy does not work in america...how will it work elsewhere?
How is it you are concerned about DEMOCRACY AND FREE SPEECH in Iran yet you HATE all Arabs?
Be concerned about the affairs of your own nation...and stay out of others like your constitution says.
Without the mindless rhetoric you spew just answer the questions above or give you opinion on the statements.
BTW I don't obsess at all about america... I only enlighten to facts and wonder why americans don't respond to their own troubles.
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Just incredible how desparate they are to try and maintain power. It's impossible to cut off communication with and coverage by the outside world in this day and age.
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"Borrowed time" can last a long time, my friend. I don't know...I think I am much more skeptical than you. Yes, there is a very large young population there, but there isn't really a history of a successful overthrow of a theocratic government in that region.
Agreed, but the median age of the country is 28 and those people want democracy and freedom. Their power will only grow as they age. Iran will look nothing like it does now in 15 years.
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Agreed, but the median age of the country is 28 and those people want democracy and freedom. Their power will only grow as they age. Iran will look nothing like it does now in 15 years.
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The impression I get from Iranians - I've mostly spoken to Persians - in general is very different from Arabs.
They seem to long for a more secular nation, if anything.
Iranians abroad are very seldom religious. They are quite often straight up Atheists, in my experience. Whereas Arabs usually are Muslims, and even seem to become even more involved in their Islamic beliefs.
So Iran can actually shape up to a pretty good country in a relatively short while.
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The impression I get from Iranians - I've mostly spoken to Persians - in general is very different from Arabs.
They seem to long for a more secular nation, if anything.
Iranians abroad are very seldom religious. They are quite often straight up Atheists, in my experience. Whereas Arabs usually are Muslims, and even seem to become even more involved in their Islamic beliefs.
So Iran can actually shape up to a pretty good country in a relatively short while.
Yes. They can only be held down for so long......
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The impression I get from Iranians - I've mostly spoken to Persians - in general is very different from Arabs.
They seem to long for a more secular nation, if anything.
Iranians abroad are very seldom religious. They are quite often straight up Atheists, in my experience. Whereas Arabs usually are Muslims, and even seem to become even more involved in their Islamic beliefs.
So Iran can actually shape up to a pretty good country in a relatively short while.
the reason you get that impression, is because it's true. Persians are not Arabs. Persia aka Iran was a very secular nation until the backlash against CIA intervention that ousted the Shah and ushered in the Islamic Revolution.
What we may be seeing here is another cultural Revolution, ...one which everyone seems to be shy about naming.
As I've often said... the myth that Iranians hate America and the American people is merely that... a myth.
the iranian people are very secular, ...it's their leadership that expresses Anti-American sentiment.
Anyway... the Supreme Leader is expected to address the population and the world on Friday.
Anyone with access to postings from Iran can now translate those through Google.
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?sl=fa&tl=en#
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the reason you get that impression, is because it's true. Persians are not Arabs. Persia aka Iran was a very secular nation until the backlash against CIA intervention that ousted the Shah and ushered in the Islamic Revolution.
Fcuk you dipshit.
Wrong again.
Iran = not Persia.
You got about 50% Persians in Iran, but there are plenty of other ethnicities as well, like Armenians and plenty of other European ethnicities. In the north there are Afghanic and Slavic ethnicities, in the west you got Arabs.
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Fcuk you dipshit.
Who peed in your cornflakes? :-\
Wrong again.
Iran = not Persia.
You got about 50% Persians in Iran, but there are plenty of other ethnicities as well, like Armenians and plenty of other European ethnicities. In the north there are Afghanic and Slavic ethnicities, in the west you got Arabs.
According to the CIA World Fact Book the demographics are as follows:
The main ethnic groups are Persians (51%), Azeris (24%), Gilaki and Mazandarani (8%), Kurds (7%), Arabs (3%), Baluchi (2%), Lurs (2%), Turkmens (2%), Laks, Qashqai, Armenians, Persian Jews, Georgians, Assyrians, Circassians, Tats, Mandaeans, Gypsies, Brahuis, Hazara, Kazakhs and others (1%).
Article 15 of the Iranian constitution states that the "Official language of Iran is Persian.
The presence of other ethniticites within Iran doesn't make it any less a very Persian country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persia#Demography
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The impression I get from Iranians - I've mostly spoken to Persians - in general is very different from Arabs.
They seem to long for a more secular nation, if anything.
Iranians abroad are very seldom religious. They are quite often straight up Atheists, in my experience. Whereas Arabs usually are Muslims, and even seem to become even more involved in their Islamic beliefs.
So Iran can actually shape up to a pretty good country in a relatively short while.
I would long for a secular nation too if my life was run by Islamic nutbags
but what about Christian nutbags
I wonder what would happen if the Iranians learned about the "good news".