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Title: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Alex23 on June 19, 2009, 08:15:10 PM
If the United States does not begin to fix healthcare and begin to manufacture and use clean energy, we are in for a long recession and if it has not happened already not already, the US will loose its superpower status to China in a few years. The US has been investing and prospering on unstable ideals. If they dont begin to manufacture renewable energy and invest in science and tech the US will never recover from this recession.

The US is still is the only nation where free enterprise can still thrive and no other country can say the same. The US provides the opportunity to its citizens to build a successful business. However, regulations are needed to maintain the ethical and longevity of businesses and not allow CEOs to bring down the system to make a boat load of cash at the expense of investors and tax payers and the overall economy. WE have allowed too much freedom to CEOS and businesses and we have deregulated our economy, thanks to the Bush admin.
 
We as a nation have invested our money too much in the finance sector and in other countries(ie. Iraq). We need to pay more attention to investing at home and producing plants that can produce reusable energy(ie solar, electric etc). In addition, our money needs to be invested domestically in science and technology. In order to solve the problems, we need to first clean up our debt and invest in healthcare, education, science and tech, and renewable fuel and set standards that will ensure integrity in businesses and have a 0 tolerance to fraud and unethical practices.


Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: io856 on June 19, 2009, 08:17:42 PM
according to gh15 us bodybuilders don't know about financial crisis and still keep buying his products.. no downturn there
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: polychronopolous on June 19, 2009, 08:17:59 PM
Well said.

While I find many of the acts you commit on here to be completely dispicable... You have my undivided support with statements such as this...Continue to fight the good fight.

Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 20, 2009, 05:13:08 AM
If the United States does not begin to fix healthcare and begin to manufacture and use clean energy, we are in for a long recession and if it has not happened already not already, the US will loose its superpower status to China in a few years. The US has been investing and prospering on unstable ideals. If they dont begin to manufacture renewable energy and invest in science and tech the US will never recover from this recession.

The US is still is the only nation where free enterprise can still thrive and no other country can say the same. The US provides the opportunity to its citizens to build a successful business. However, regulations are needed to maintain the ethical and longevity of businesses and not allow CEOs to bring down the system to make a boat load of cash at the expense of investors and tax payers and the overall economy. WE have allowed too much freedom to CEOS and businesses and we have deregulated our economy, thanks to the Bush admin.
 
We as a nation have invested our money too much in the finance sector and in other countries(ie. Iraq). We need to pay more attention to investing at home and producing plants that can produce reusable energy(ie solar, electric etc). In addition, our money needs to be invested domestically in science and technology. In order to solve the problems, we need to first clean up our debt and invest in healthcare, education, science and tech, and renewable fuel and set standards that will ensure integrity in businesses and have a 0 tolerance to fraud and unethical practices.



Nice post. Everyone is living on credit, which is a problem. Soceity has set us up to fail, just look at the banks. If you cant pay your credit debts the whole system fails.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on June 20, 2009, 05:16:22 AM
Nice post. Everyone is living on credit, which is a problem. Soceity has set us up to fail, just look at the banks. If you cant pay your credit debts the whole system fails.
no woryes friend,,government will bail out banks and you wont have to pay back your debts,,its the snowball effect from the top down system,,who said you had to pay your debts?  rack up credit debts and say goodbye
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 20, 2009, 05:17:43 AM
no woryes friend,,government will bail out banks and you wont have to pay back your debts,,its the snowball effect from the top down system,,who said you had to pay your debts?  rack up credit debts and say goodbye
nice thought, what happens when the government runs out?
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: atafic on June 20, 2009, 05:24:23 AM
If the United States does not begin to fix healthcare and begin to manufacture and use clean energy, we are in for a long recession and if it has not happened already not already, the US will loose its superpower status to China in a few years. The US has been investing and prospering on unstable ideals. If they dont begin to manufacture renewable energy and invest in science and tech the US will never recover from this recession.

The US is still is the only nation where free enterprise can still thrive and no other country can say the same. The US provides the opportunity to its citizens to build a successful business. However, regulations are needed to maintain the ethical and longevity of businesses and not allow CEOs to bring down the system to make a boat load of cash at the expense of investors and tax payers and the overall economy. WE have allowed too much freedom to CEOS and businesses and we have deregulated our economy, thanks to the Bush admin.
 
We as a nation have invested our money too much in the finance sector and in other countries(ie. Iraq). We need to pay more attention to investing at home and producing plants that can produce reusable energy(ie solar, electric etc). In addition, our money needs to be invested domestically in science and technology. In order to solve the problems, we need to first clean up our debt and invest in healthcare, education, science and tech, and renewable fuel and set standards that will ensure integrity in businesses and have a 0 tolerance to fraud and unethical practices.




Very wise words. Couldn't agree more
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on June 20, 2009, 05:35:37 AM
nice thought, what happens when the government runs out?
we print more,,we dont have a standard anymore for knox gold does not apply during recession ask obama
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: ToxicAvenger on June 20, 2009, 08:05:52 AM
what recession...juice prices are the lowest they have been in yrs! :D
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: ManBearPig... on June 20, 2009, 08:30:31 AM
we print more,,we dont have a standard anymore for knox gold does not apply during recession ask obama

the gold reserves ran out in the 70's.  when asked in college what stands behind the dollar, our economics professor said "the good faith of the american people".

so as long as we believe in every dollar printed, it's worth something.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Alex23 on June 20, 2009, 01:11:29 PM
the gold reserves ran out in the 70's.  when asked in college what stands behind the dollar, our economics professor said "the good faith of the American people".

so as long as we believe in every dollar printed, it's worth something.

QFT. Some smart people on here. Don't get fooled.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Smages on June 20, 2009, 01:16:26 PM
we print more,,we dont have a standard anymore for knox gold does not apply during recession ask obama

You're a moron. Let's just print enough money to give everyone a million dollars so we can all be rich. That will work, right?
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Alex23 on June 20, 2009, 01:17:31 PM
You're a moron.

Can you back this up? JOCK is known to be pretty smart...
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: dr.chimps on June 20, 2009, 01:18:53 PM
Alex? You chumming the waters for TA? He's gonna rise to that post/bait like a great white with copy and paste ruthlessness.   ;D
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Alex23 on June 20, 2009, 01:26:25 PM
Alex? You chumming the waters for TA? He's gonna rise to that post/bait like a great white with copy and paste ruthlessness.   ;D

or any of these political board tools posting 1000 words essays 8hrs a day.. hahah oh brother.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 20, 2009, 01:31:41 PM
the gold reserves ran out in the 70's.  when asked in college what stands behind the dollar, our economics professor said "the good faith of the american people".

so as long as we believe in every dollar printed, it's worth something.
That is referred to as The Tinkerbell Effect.  The same can be applied to Gold or any other standard as it is simply an anthropocentric value not based in anything other than humans made the whole thing up.

Kind of like god and religion.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 20, 2009, 01:35:07 PM
Single Payer is the only viable option to fix healthcare.  HR 676 Conyers/Kucinich bill.  As long as there is a for-profit system the United States will remain 37th in the world in Healthcare behind Morocco or even worse. 

The problem is an uneducated and easily fooled public.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: tbombz on June 20, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
 first lets make sure that there will be human beings alive in the centuries to come before we start to worry about the standard of living in those centuries.


you know... that whole rising carbon levels in the atmosphere thing... that little thing that will kill every human on earth unless all carbon emissions are stopped within a few years.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: gordiano on June 20, 2009, 01:40:50 PM
first lets make sure that there will be human beings alive in the centuries to come before we start to worry about the standard of living in those centuries.


you know... that whole rising carbon levels in the atmosphere thing... that little thing that will kill every human on earth unless all carbon emissions are stopped within a few years.

Sadly....most folks don't seem to care.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: dr.chimps on June 20, 2009, 01:41:05 PM
or any of these political board tools posting 1000 words essays 8hrs a day.. hahah oh brother.
*Bang* Alex, you're gonna need a bigger boat! TA has, indeed, hit the bait.    :D
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Smages on June 20, 2009, 01:41:14 PM
It's basic economics. Supply and demand. Say they print more money and we all have more in the bank than we did before. First currency is just an accepted form of trade for goods and services. You can spend that money on food, clothes, housing, etc. There's more money, but not more items to purchase, so what happens? The prices of those products rise, because the demand increases. Which causes inflation.

Or the US prints more money and pays off all their debts (bonds, treasuries, etc). Then the value of the dollar decreases versus foreign currency causing the price of those products to rise, but the wages of US workers don't rise, so all products cost more while we make the same.

Once the value of the dollar decreases relative to other countries currency then things get even worse. Because we get so many products from foreign trade (think of all the items you have from outside the US) all foreign products become more expensive. The US Bonds which is the loans the US are paying would decrease in value and the foreign investors would sell those causing the value of the dollar to continue to decrease.

That's just the beginning of things that would happen.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Alex23 on June 20, 2009, 01:43:03 PM
first lets make sure that there will be human beings alive in the centuries to come before we start to worry about the standard of living in those centuries.
you know... that whole rising carbon levels in the atmosphere thing... that little thing that will kill every human on earth unless all carbon emissions are stopped within a few years.

Settle down champ, we are only years away from Type 1 civilization; which includes planetary climat control (stratospheric sulfur injection being one of them).

The current economic "realignment" and establishment of the "world order" is simply gearing us towards being able to achieve these technological advancements.

Moore's Law applied at a global scale.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: tbombz on June 20, 2009, 01:49:44 PM
Settle down champ, we are only years away from Type 1 civilization; which includes planetary climat control (stratospheric sulfur injection being one of them).

The current economic "realignment" and establishment of the "world order" is simply gearing us towards being able to achieve these technological advancements.

Moore's Law applied at a global scale.

climate control huh ? i suppose getting carbon levels low and keeping them that way, even with super high carbon emissions... some kind of recyling system wich changes carbon to something else i guess... that would be the easy part... but how about reversing all the effects that the carbon has already had? besides the fact that theres zero guarantee of gainign technology to get and keep normal carbon levels
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 20, 2009, 01:50:10 PM
It's basic economics. Supply and demand. Say they print more money and we all have more in the bank than we did before. First currency is just an accepted form of trade for goods and services. You can spend that money on food, clothes, housing, etc. There's more money, but not more items to purchase, so what happens? The prices of those products rise, because the demand increases. Which causes inflation.

Or the US prints more money and pays off all their debts (bonds, treasuries, etc). Then the value of the dollar decreases versus foreign currency causing the price of those products to rise, but the wages of US workers don't rise, so all products cost more while we make the same.

Once the value of the dollar decreases relative to other countries currency then things get even worse. Because we get so many products from foreign trade (think of all the items you have from outside the US) all foreign products become more expensive. The US Bonds which is the loans the US are paying would decrease in value and the foreign investors would sell those causing the value of the dollar to continue to decrease.

That's just the beginning of things that would happen.

Money creation is certainly not that simple.  You are disregarding Fractional-Reserve banking and ignoring Empirical measures Ms M0-M3.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: jack_ftype on June 20, 2009, 02:02:37 PM
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You are disregarding Fractional-Reserve banking

It should've been discarded in the first place, along with usury.

The whole system is a joke, and a bad one at that.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 20, 2009, 02:04:20 PM
climate control huh ? i suppose getting carbon levels low and keeping them that way, even with super high carbon emissions... some kind of recyling system wich changes carbon to something else i guess... that would be the easy part... but how about reversing all the effects that the carbon has already had? besides the fact that theres zero guarantee of gainign technology to get and keep normal carbon levels
The real problem is one of overpopulation and if we apply Moore`s law of exponential growth to the current birth rate and do nothing about carbon emissions, we are looking at millions and even billions of refugees displaced, especially in third-world locations as there will be a  move inland to escape rising sea levels.

This will in turn put an immense strain on food supply, available farm land and also has the propensity to spread disease rampantly.

This will be the first sign of the ramifications of turning a blind eye to Climate change.


Perhaps we should have listened:  
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: CalvinH on June 20, 2009, 02:13:26 PM
Lucky for me I've been stocking up on test,gh,and protan just in case something like this happened 8)
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: sync pulse on June 20, 2009, 05:17:07 PM
If the United States does not begin to fix healthcare and begin to manufacture and use clean energy, we are in for a long recession and if it has not happened already not already, the US will loose its superpower status to China in a few years. The US has been investing and prospering on unstable ideals. If they dont begin to manufacture renewable energy and invest in science and tech the US will never recover from this recession.

The US is still is the only nation where free enterprise can still thrive and no other country can say the same. The US provides the opportunity to its citizens to build a successful business. However, regulations are needed to maintain the ethical and longevity of businesses and not allow CEOs to bring down the system to make a boat load of cash at the expense of investors and tax payers and the overall economy. WE have allowed too much freedom to CEOS and businesses and we have deregulated our economy, thanks to the Bush admin.
 
We as a nation have invested our money too much in the finance sector and in other countries(ie. Iraq). We need to pay more attention to investing at home and producing plants that can produce reusable energy(ie solar, electric etc). In addition, our money needs to be invested domestically in science and technology. In order to solve the problems, we need to first clean up our debt and invest in healthcare, education, science and tech, and renewable fuel and set standards that will ensure integrity in businesses and have a 0 tolerance to fraud and unethical practices.



Perspicacious and prescient...
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: sync pulse on June 20, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
I should add a return to building modern nuclear power plants with fuel recycling...safe, effective, and the new designs won't meltdown.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Alex23 on June 21, 2009, 02:02:53 PM
The real problem is one of overpopulation and if we apply Moore`s law of exponential growth to the current birth rate and do nothing about carbon emissions, we are looking at millions and even billions of refugees displaced, especially in third-world locations as there will be a  move inland to escape rising sea levels.

Get an education dipshit; Moore's law has nothing to do with population growth. It only applies to the speed at which technology evolves; doubles every 18 months, chips, storage, information processing...

Epic pseudo intellectual web searching cut and paste and unable understand the content.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: The True Adonis on June 21, 2009, 03:20:47 PM
Get an education dipshit; Moore's law has nothing to do with population growth. It only applies to the speed at which technology evolves; doubles every 18 months, chips, storage, information processing...

Epic pseudo intellectual web searching cut and paste and unable understand the content.
Actually that is not what Moore`s law is either if you want to be technical about it.  I was applying the common adage the "law" has taken on regarding exponential growth doubling in a rising trend.


Of course you were to dim-witted to realize this as you were also too dim witted to realize that Moore`s Law has become more than just a technological sole expanse of microprocessors.

Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Alex23 on June 21, 2009, 06:45:02 PM
Actually that is not what Moore`s law is either if you want to be technical about it.  I was applying the common adage the "law" has taken on regarding exponential growth doubling in a rising trend.
Of course you were to dim-witted to realize this as you were also too dim witted to realize that Moore`s Law has become more than just a technological sole expanse of microprocessors.

Epic backpedaling nonsense.

Get an education you High school Graduate.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: tbombz on June 21, 2009, 06:57:33 PM
thinking that its guaranteed that technology will double every 18 months is fucking retarded and delusional.
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: dr.chimps on June 21, 2009, 07:00:08 PM
thinking that its guaranteed that technology will double every 18 months is fucking retarded and delusional
Being 18 and thinking you have the answer to everything is 'fucking retarded and delusional.'   ;)
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: tbombz on June 21, 2009, 10:29:49 PM
Being 18 and thinking you have the answer to everything is 'fucking retarded and delusional.'   ;)

i edited your post and shot you a piece of wisdom from a 20 year old
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Mr Nobody on June 22, 2009, 07:29:23 AM
Being 18 and thinking you have the answer to everything is 'fucking retarded and delusional.'   ;)
Another great post by chimps! 8)
Title: Re: Have bodybuilders recovered from the recession?
Post by: Alex23 on June 22, 2009, 11:04:10 PM
thinking that its guaranteed that technology will double every 18 months is fucking retarded and delusional.

LOL it  happened about 10 times with microchips since you were born.

Epic steroided narrowed vision and still can't come up quicker with a reply on a faster processor.