Serious question broskies, do you ever get tired of this same fucking argument? The amount of time and energy you've now put into your muscleman feud must have taken a serious chunk out of your short time on this planet.
Is it worth it when it's clear that you've never changed each other's minds and most people leave threads when you start bickering?
Have you thought of meeting at a hotel or something for a weekend conference?
Will you start posting naked pics of Dorian and Ronnie now?
i still don't get it cause ronnie owns yates
It is sickening hence why I offered a Truce , which he declined and got his ass kicked in , I won and walked away , now he's a bitter he trolls every single thread with me in it or the name Dorian Yates , he's a one trick pony. He's an angry guy because I beat him using his own hero and now all he does it troll
i still don't get it cause ronnie owns yates
Kinda obvious innit?
It all makes sense once the schmoe factor's considered-ND has no life other than collecting. obsessing over and posting white BB pics on getbig AND an embarassing number of other BB sites. :-*
You might too, if you were an assistant at a flower shop with a lot of free time. At least 2 mexicans are reporting to him. ;)
Thanks for proving my point troll ;) still pissed I outed you as a tranny chaser huh? it's ironic you're questioning anyone's sexuality seeing it's you who refers to men who dress like women as ' gorgeous '
I own you for perpetuity
You might too, if you were an assistant at a flower shop with a lot of free time. At least 2 mexicans are reporting to him.
i still don't get it cause ronnie owns yates
Case in point, there's not much room in the trailer that's far from the pc or BB posters ROFL
ND loves 'blocky white guys' lol so he doesn't see it..
.
don't forget about the time ND told Neo he was going to 'drink his milkshake"
that, combined with his flowery occupation, and his love of white men gunter/dorian
makes it obvious that ND is a flamer hahahahaha
:P
ND and Hulkster
I prefer ronnie so i prefer Hulkster's posts.
Serious question broskies, do you ever get tired of this same fucking argument? The amount of time and energy you've now put into your muscleman feud must have taken a serious chunk out of your short time on this planet.
Is it worth it when it's clear that you've never changed each other's minds and most people leave threads when you start bickering?
Have you thought of meeting at a hotel or something for a weekend conference?
Will you start posting naked pics of Dorian and Ronnie now?
The difference between ND and Hulkster is that ND can live with the fact that there are people in the World who think that Ronnie is better than Dorian, but Hulkster sure as hell can't deal with the fact that there are people who think that Dorian is better than Ronnie.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
the difference between ND and Hulkster is Hulkster praised ND's intelligence and ND never did
:P
I could collect cans and I still know more about competitive bodybuilding than you
but you don't so it doesn't matter what you do for a living - your still as delusional as ever.
but your flowery occupation does indicate your sexual prefernce (blocky white guys) LOL
Serious question broskies, do you ever get tired of this same fucking argument?
3. ronnie dominated the prejudging in reality but lost on paper - the judges fucked up. see pics flowerboy. ::)
LMFAO...everytime Ronnie loses it's the judges fault. Right ::) Jay won in 2001. Face it.
The Columbu of the 90s "won" a boatload of gimmies thanks to uncle joe. It wasn't close like 01, the barrel lost except where it counted-between joe's knees. Something tells me ND's always been envious of that view. :-*
every time you post that stuff I roll my eyes,
because:
1. once the 93 video/pics came out, it was quite clear that flex was off his AC shape, and didn't deserve to win. I changed my opinion. it went right over your flowery head as always.. ::)
2. Ronnie did have very detailed calves in 99 - watch the video. they had no size and shitty shape, but they had more detail than dorian shows in most shots
3. ronnie dominated the prejudging in reality but lost on paper - the judges fucked up. see pics flowerboy. ::)
1998 wasn't a close contest ( Hulkster's fantasy ) reality it was extremely close in fact one of the closest contests in history 3 points
Serious question broskies, do you ever get tired of this same fucking argument? The amount of time and energy you've now put into your muscleman feud must have taken a serious chunk out of your short time on this planet.I guess you have your answer
Is it worth it when it's clear that you've never changed each other's minds and most people leave threads when you start bickering?
Have you thought of meeting at a hotel or something for a weekend conference?
Will you start posting naked pics of Dorian and Ronnie now?
you keep going back to the scoresheet as if the scoresheet was an accurate reflection of what was seen onstage.
it wasn't:
see for yourself: ::)
Flex gets owned in every shot.
sorry.
ps what is your excuse going to be this time? ::)
he's better conditioned than 01 ASC and 10 pounds bigger in 99 despite it not being his best showing
In my mind ,thats Ronnies best ever shape.
the 99 RC is the best physique to ever step onstage
99= Ronnies best ever
99 he looked the best IMO.
Ronnie's best ever
99-the best ever ronnie
99 Ronnie Coleman... thge greatest EVER!!! COLEMAN 1999>ANYBODY!!!
ND, your response?
they complete each other.
he'll post quotes without posting any sort of corroborating proof.
Assuming that were true, how then might you respond?
with visuals that refute the quotes.
real life is always the equalizer.
talk is cheap =most of it is bullshit.
you need evidence to back it up.
which ND never has...
But ND would probably disagree. So how would go about refuting his counterpoint?
by reminding him that he works for a flower shop LOL
8)
sounds good.
but ND usually runs away in embarassment after debating with me for any length of time.
he did so in the truce thread..
Ronnie's wins over Dorian= 0
Ronnie's wins over Dorian= 0
truces are for people that work for flower companies. 8)
ha ha ha Ronnie disagrees , thanks for playing though. ;D
WTF? He does? It has to be a joke?
ronnie was hard as nails in 1999, and 257 pounds to boot:
sadly, it isn't.
Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on June 04, 2009, 01:34:51 PM
Why would I lie? what do I have to hide? I could work pumping gas and I would still know more on the subject than you Hulkster , pumpster and every other Trollman fan combined and why? because I've read up extensively on the subject , and basing your knowledge on your posts it's painfully obvious none of you know the first thing about how contests are judged , what the criteria is and what judges look for .
and to answer your question I work for one of the largest flower wholesalers on the East coast , I start at 5 a.m ( or earlier ) and I'm usually out for the day by 1 p.m so I can post during the say when most people are still working and again who can't post with a mobile device during the day? and I still only average 11 posts a day
ND works for a flower company, probably arranging the flowers wearing pink Abercombie and Fich shirts LOL
with visuals that refute the quotes.
real life is always the equalizer.
talk is cheap =most of it is bullshit.
you need evidence to back it up.
which ND never has...
sadly, it isn't.
Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on June 04, 2009, 01:34:51 PM
Why would I lie? what do I have to hide? I could work pumping gas and I would still know more on the subject than you Hulkster , pumpster and every other Trollman fan combined and why? because I've read up extensively on the subject , and basing your knowledge on your posts it's painfully obvious none of you know the first thing about how contests are judged , what the criteria is and what judges look for .
and to answer your question I work for one of the largest flower wholesalers on the East coast , I start at 5 a.m ( or earlier ) and I'm usually out for the day by 1 p.m so I can post during the say when most people are still working and again who can't post with a mobile device during the day? and I still only average 11 posts a day
ND works for a flower company, probably arranging the flowers wearing pink Abercombie and Fich shirts LOL
He could work as an accountant, marketing manager or as an executive at the company, which wouldn't involve doing anything that requires an expertise in flowers or flower arrangements.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
many people agree that it is his best showing.
look around whenever pics are posted.
the comments are all the same: ronnie's 99 presentation was his best overall look..
http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/99-coleman-everyone-else-4268.html?t=4268
McGough disagrees's, although he feels it is better than 98 (check the article he wrote that you hate)
etc..
you can't escape the reality of how good people feel Ronnie 99 was..
this is so damn easy:
but no, ND claims it is only I who feels 99 ronnie was his best ever shape
LMAO
no wonder you cant advance above flowers in life LOL
sounds good.
but ND usually runs away in embarassment after debating with me for any length of time.
he did so in the truce thread..
Quote from: Matt CI prefer ronnie so i prefer Hulkster's posts.
fixed ;D
And no, he was holding water, evident in his hams and lower back
Ronnie Coleman admitting he couldn't beat Dorian on multiple occasions is evidence
He could work as an accountant, marketing manager or as an executive at the company, which wouldn't involve doing anything that requires an expertise in flowers or flower arrangements.
IF you asked Ronnie today when he was at his best, he would say 98, like he has done multiple times. No shit he's gonna say he was better at the time of the 99 Olympia; nobody is going to train a year and then say they regressed ::)
who gives a shit if Ronnie said Dorian would beat him in 98 or that 98 was his best package? Ronnie also thinks he deserved to win in 06 (the year he lost to Jay) and claims he doesn't have any injuries, which HypocriticDeity likes to ignore. ::) Since HD is such a fan of quotes, here are some from more credible sources who agree that Ronnie at his prime is unbeatable and/or that his best showing wasn't 98. ;)
Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder
"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."
Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49
"We've said before that the 245 pounds or so physique with which [Ronnie Coleman] won the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic is the best ever - unbeatable."
Lonnie Teper - MD, December 2005
"I've always said that it's too hard to compare athletes of different eras (then he names a few Mr. Olympias including Dorian). Still, it's hard to imagine that anybody who's ever stepped on a bodybuilding stage could have beaten Coleman. So I reserve the right to change my mind on this one. No offense to the rest of the champs - you were/are all truly amazing physique athletes - but Coleman has really taken it to the next level, as all magnificent conquerors do."
Tony Doherty - Heavy Muscle Radio (03-16-09)
"Ronnie is the best ever. No one even comes close."
Tony Doherty - http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=270388.msg3803035#msg3803035
"Absolutely no question. The best ever, I have seen them and worked with them all. Seeing Ronnie in 2003 was like looking into the future!"
Raymond Cassar - Muscletime Editor and Photographer
"There is no one alive that can beat Ronnie Coleman when he is at his best - No One! (and his best for me was when he won the 2001 Arnold Classic)"
http://www.muscletime.com/news/contest-results/2007-mr-olympia-analysis
Milos Sarcev - European Flex, April 2004
"Chris Lund who I consider to be a great expert in our sport of bodybuilding, told me that Ronnie is simply the best bodybuilder he has ever seen, or photographed, and he has seen everybody, during the last 35 years."
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0
Hollis Liebman - Former Fitness Editor and IFBB Official
"The era of the big man would commence with Lee Haney (1984-1991), whose formidable torso would dominate the lineup for 8 straight years and was then elevated by Dorian Yates (1992-1997), whose back and overall conditioning upped the ante yet again until an alien named Ronnie Coleman (1998-2005), in all likelihood the greatest bodybuilder of all time, would redefine the sport bringing a near 300 pound contest ready physique to the stage."
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=238675.0
who gives a shit if Ronnie said Dorian would beat him in 98 or that 98 was his best package? Ronnie also thinks he deserved to win in 06 (the year he lost to Jay) and claims he doesn't have any injuries, which HypocriticDeity likes to ignore. ::) Since HD is such a fan of quotes, here are some from more credible sources who agree that Ronnie at his prime is unbeatable and/or that his best showing wasn't 98. ;)
its no use Neo.
we are aruging with a flower-worker who posts the same quotes over again, while ignoring all others, while not even bothering to check and see (via pics and vids -the basis of this sport) if the quotes he keeps posting are correct opinions in the first place.
problem is, they aren't.
fact is, it doesn't matter if the quote is from Ronnie, dorian, santa clause or the easter bunny - if the pics and vids show otherwise, the quotes are nothing more than incorrect opinions.
period.
thats the point that he misses..,
Ronnie claims his 98 olympia was his olympia best, but he has also claimed 99 was better, a fact that ND's pal McGough agrees with, but you don't see ND posting that over and over again.. ::)
your pal and ND's pal Peter McGough feels Ronnie's 99 olympia physique was his best olympia presentation.
post that over and over again lol
You give a shit if Ronnie said Dorian would beat him that's who you and every other nutt-hugging Trollman fan , it absolutely kills you Ronnie admits this and I love how you dismiss the guy in question he's the only one who's opinion doesn't matter on the subject more splendid logic from you
And what's him bitching about 2006 have to do with Yates? NOTHING he felt he won he was obviously wrong , same with his torn muscles , he had a reason to lie , does he have a reason to lie about Dorian? a man who beat him consistently for years?
Thanks for proving my point troll ;) still pissed I outed you as a tranny chaser huh? it's ironic you're questioning anyone's sexuality seeing it's you who refers to men who dress like women as ' gorgeous '
I own you for perpetuity
yawn, I honestly could care less what Ronnie says. The guy is the best bodybuilder who ever lived. That doesn't make him the most knowledgable on the subject.
I can't tell if you're playing dumb or just stupid. Ronnie losing in 06 and claiming he should have won is proof he's not fit to judge contests. So his opinion of who would win between him and Dorian carries little weight. As for lying about his injuries, he also had a reason to lie about losing to Dorian. Everybody has been telling you but you're too dense to listen. Ronnie was being modest b/c he wanted to show respect to a former champion. This is backed up by another quote from him where he says he would beat all the former Mr. Olympias in a contest but not during their respective reigns.
Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos
John: "This is my last question for you Ronnie, and it's quite "hypothetical" but I believe it is a good one. Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee Haney, and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"
Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win... but I couldn't have beat them in their hey days."
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/rcinter.htm
yawn, I honestly could care less what Ronnie says. The guy is the best bodybuilder who ever lived. That doesn't make him the most knowledgable on the subject.
I can't tell if you're playing dumb or just stupid. Ronnie losing in 06 and claiming he should have won is proof he's not fit to judge contests. So his opinion of who would win between him and Dorian carries little weight. As for lying about his injuries, he also had a reason to lie about losing to Dorian. Everybody has been telling you but you're too dense to listen. Ronnie was being modest b/c he wanted to show respect to a former champion. This is backed up by another quote from him where he says he would beat all the former Mr. Olympias in a contest but not during their respective reigns.
lol
pumpster loves men in drag
pumpster is a fag
he likes his dude with lipstick
they sit on his small dick
I can't tell if you're playing dumb or just stupid.
Ronnie did say in 1999 he was his in the best shape of his life that was in 99 after reflecting on his entire career in 2008 when posed the question he said 1998 was better more specifically because his conditioning was spot-on which coincides with McGough who said Ronnie was.......you guessed it harder & drier in 1998 compared to 1999 and more to shred more ignorance on you McGough says 2001 Arnold Classic is his best showing and NOT 1999 so either way you're wrong as usual
and it's " No use " is right because you can never counter the fact Ronnie himself feels Dorian would beat him , it sucks to be you and it's exactly why you're reduced to personal attacks and following me around in every thread I own you and every guy with the FACT Ronnie admitted multiple times he couldn't beat Dorian ;)
Keep following me around proving my point I beat YOU using your own hero . case closed.
ND and Hulkster (You have to admire how they stand by their man in trunks)
he just happens to have 20/20 vision (apparently unlike ND) and can see what pretty much everyone else can too - that Ronnie wins this 'debate' hands down. Jesus.
he just happens to have 20/20 vision (apparently unlike ND) and can see what pretty much everyone else can too - that Ronnie wins this 'debate' hands down. Jesus.
thank you Neoseminole - I guess ND will come back telling us how all those opinions aren't credible compared to his - he's the EXPERT, after all. What a jackass. Ronnie was much better, it's fuccking OBVIOUS. Quit being such a douchebag.
And I'm not a fan of Hulkster, he just happens to have 20/20 vision (apparently unlike ND) and can see what pretty much everyone else can too - that Ronnie wins this 'debate' hands down. Jesus.
people like ND don't know how the sport is judged, thats the problem.
they have no idea how to evaluate a physique, what is considered desriable as far as judging goes (eg. twig arms on a barrel torso is not lol) etc.
I actually can't comprehend the worthlessness of this argument. Does Ronnie saying something make it true?
ronnie's modesty and political commentary has nothing to do with comparing the physiques.
sorry.
tell us, if Ronnie had stated time and time again that King Kamali would beat him at his best, would that make it true?
hell no.
this is no different.
sorry, go back to your floral arrangments LOL
Piss poor analogy
your trying to prove opinions by quoting other opinions.
you don't get it.you need corroborating proof (pics and vids) to back up the quotes.
but you won't post that, because it shows the opinions to be incorrect..
::)
Pics and vid? you mean the photoshopped pics YOU posted is proof? 99% of the screencaps YOU posted were already exposed for enhanced by Kevin Horton
I have 98 and 99 videos DO YOU? NO do you even know what conditioning is and isn't? NO
you're arguing with your own hero once again and as usual Ronnie OWNS you
Who would you say is the better bodybuilder, though, Ronnie Coleman or Dorian Yates?
Dorian Yates , and Ronnie Coleman agrees with me ;D
my thoughts are that I can tell from the (lack of) intelligence displayed on this board by ND that he will never advance to the coveted rank of Flower Arranger.
even if he does suck off the Flower Boss. lol
this is why ND never posts any corroborating pics with his quotes.
they show them to be wrong.
once again, 99 ronnie owning even his 2001 AC form, with a noticably smaller cut, better quads etc. etc
flowerboy fucking OWNED..
this is why quotes by themselves are worthless whether they are from ronnie, the easter bunny, McGough, dorian or Kamali lol
you need pics otherwise all you might have is bullshit.
real life is the deciding factor:
Everytime you type ' real life ' and then posts pictures I always laugh
hahaha
your too stupid to realize that none of that means anything with respect to the real comparison I posted..
::)
what are you going to say? everyone can see that ronnie's lat spread was better in 99 than at the AC (less of a gut) and your trying to deny that because of some quotes? LMAO ::)
and you should
because they always prove what you state in your posts (via other people's opinons) to be WRONG.
you don't understand the concept of corroborating evidence to back up a position, do you?
oh thats right, you arrange flowers for a living, so you can't be expected to..hahahahaha :P
Serious question broskies, do you ever get tired of this same fucking argument?
people like ND don't know how the sport is judged, thats the problem.
they have no idea how to evaluate a physique, what is considered desriable as far as judging goes (eg. twig arms on a barrel torso is not lol) etc.
Oh, the irony! ::)