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Why is this the consistent recurring theme here? Is it only because there are so many baby bodybuilders that want to juice but can't? Are there so many noobs trying to be big--trying so hard, and getting nowhere?
Why, why, why?
Who cares? Do we really look at other bodybuilders in the gym, on the streets and in competitions and say: "Is he natural?" Maybe you look at EVERYBODY in a day and say: "are you natural?"
Naturally ignorant? Naturally ugly? Naturally fat? Naturally tall? Short?
Does it really kill us to wonder if Skip La Cour is natural? I could care less.
Has anyone here ever met an intelligent person? What do you ask yourself if you do? "Is he smarter than me?" Why not beat yourself up about your lack of knowledge instead? Am I making sense, or am I rambling? Am I just venting cuz I'm pissed at my boss and my old lady, or am I just experiencing roid-rage?
Who cares?
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Simple, people want to avoid using gears as possible.
Nobody like injection itself otherwise you are a kinky or something.
Plus, nobody like the side effect like gynos.
But, they want to be big.
Then why people just dont get humble?
If you are getting better than before, what you want more?
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i bet you as well wonder if some guys in the gym are natural or not.
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i bet you as well wonder if some guys in the gym are natural or not.
No wonder any more. But I assure it 100%. ;D
And I have never failed it. ;)
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you're right
Nobody gives a shit, if you jacked ur jacked..
If you're really massive and then its obvious you take gear, but if you want a lean toned muscular physique (like Men's Health Magazine) I see no real difference from doing it naturally or using moderate amounts of gear.
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i never understood people take moderate amounts of gear. do it good or dont do it.
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i never understood people take moderate amounts of gear. do it good or dont do it.
same here.
If you juice for a "natural" physique you're a retard. If you juice and never get ripped, you're a retard.
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If you are natural or not?
Is it only because there are so many baby bodybuilders that want to juice but can't?
Are there so many noobs trying to be big--trying so hard, and getting nowhere?
Why, why, why?
Who cares?
You care or woudnt be making a thread about it.
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It's just a fad that was created in part by today's media and their steroid "witch hunt". It will die out eventually...and hopefully Ed Hardy t-shirts and skinny jeans for males will follow suit. :-\
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I trained clean for 4 years, had great gains but basically slowed to a halt after 3 years.
I got sick of working my ass off and others looking better who didn't.
I didn't really like juicing, but the 4 years i did gave me a lot more size, hardness and quality that i never would have been able to get. I still hold it all today clean, whether it was the base i had or the fact i'm dedicated (or both) who knows but physique wise i'm glad i did it.
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If you are natural or not?
Why is this the consistent recurring theme here? Is it only because there are so many baby bodybuilders that want to juice but can't?
Are there so many noobs trying to be big--trying so hard, and getting nowhere?
Why, why, why?
Who cares? Do we really look at other bodybuilders in the gym, on the streets and in competitions and say: "Is he natural?"
Maybe you look at EVERYBODY in a day and say: "are you natural?"
Naturally ignorant? Naturally ugly? Naturally fat? Naturally tall? Short?
Does it really kill us to wonder if Skip La Cour is natural? I could care less.
Has anyone here ever met an intelligent person? What do you ask yourself if you do? "Is he smarter than me?" Why not beat yourself up about your lack of knowledge instead?
Am I making sense, or am I rambling? Am I just venting cuz I'm pissed at my boss and my old lady, or am I just experiencing roid-rage?
Who cares?
Meltdown.
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same here.
If you juice for a "natural" physique you're a retard. If you juice and never get ripped, you're a retard.
We have a plenty of those people here in our gym. :-\
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testo prop 100mg eod
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the real strange thing is the need for a drugfree lifter to proclaim daily that he is drugfree.
i don't use heroin, but i don't go around telling everybody everyday about it. the only ones who proclaim drugfree status all the time are either :
-disgusted with the way they look.
-resent everyone who is bigger.
-lying
-wish they were using it.
-or like a recovering alcoholic know exactly how many days they've been clean (Croatch)
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bodybuilding is drugs if u dont like drugs find a dif sport like table tennis. it gets old seeing the same guys cryin all drugs every post. football is all drugs baseball is all drugs powerlifting is all drugs strongman is all drugs bodybuilding is all drugs track and field is all drugs wrestling is all drugs hell bikeing is all drugs who fucn cares. we evolved to create better athletes and in future we will continue to evolve with new drugs.
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the real strange thing is the need for a drugfree lifter to proclaim daily that he is drugfree.
i don't use heroin, but i don't go around telling everybody everyday about it. the only ones who proclaim drugfree status all the time are either :
-disgusted with the way they look.
-resent everyone who is bigger.
-lying
-wish they were using it.
-or like a recovering alcoholic know exactly how many days they've been clean (Croatch)
You couldn't be further off here. There are two types of people in the gym:
1. The type who can kick ass with no drugs
2. The type who can't
When your gym is flooded with "can nots", it's helpful to let them know what's what. It's great watching some roided up fools face, as I dominate his physique and he knows...Croatch pwns his ass..BOOM!
It's years of consistent training, something most of the clowns never do.
Again, making the poor analogy about a heroin user, is comical, but a failed one.
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bodybuilding is drugs if u dont like drugs find a dif sport like table tennis. it gets old seeing the same guys cryin all drugs every post. football is all drugs baseball is all drugs powerlifting is all drugs strongman is all drugs bodybuilding is all drugs track and field is all drugs wrestling is all drugs hell bikeing is all drugs who fucn cares. we evolved to create better athletes and in future we will continue to evolve with new drugs.
You're wrong on this one.
If you don't like drugs, find another sport. More like, unless you're a pro bb and earn money from the thousands you spend on a cycle, you're a clown.
Most people can't make good gains without drugs, this is what makes real bodybuilding great. ;)
It's such a sorry cop out view here.
"Nobody can do it without drugs."
hahah, no, you can't. ;)
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Only douchebags care. They're the same douchebags that'll call creatine users "cheaters". Even if someone better looking is honestly natural then they'll scoff them as being obsessed with their training and dieting.
Whether you're enhanced using PEDs or completely natural the only people who care are not worth caring about. That's one of the big things we all share in common. Just do it for yourself or whatever other reason you're doing it for.
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We have a plenty of those people here in our gym. :-\
Yes, same in my gym and actually 90% of recreational juicers i have seen in my life.
testo prop 100mg eod
That's a good idea, 50mg eod would help as well.
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Yes, same in my gym and actually 90% of recreational juicers i have seen in my life.
That's a good idea, 50mg eod would help as well.
50 is not enough on a prop Only cycle
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Only douchebags care. They're the same douchebags that'll call creatine users "cheaters". Even if someone better looking is honestly natural then they'll scoff them as being obsessed with their training and dieting.
Whether you're enhanced using PEDs or completely natural the only people who care are not worth caring about. That's one of the big things we all share in common. Just do it for yourself or whatever other reason you're doing it for.
Of course, in the end, it's how you feel about your own gains. I can't see jamming myself with a needle or popping a ton of pills as "accomplishing" something with my physique. When anyone can do it, it's nothing great. ;)
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Yes, I like to tell people I am penoris-free.
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Yes, I like to tell people I am penoris-free.
thats good
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My mom gives a shit, but only because she has no knowledge about steroids.
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the real strange thing is the need for a drugfree lifter to proclaim daily that he is drugfree.
i don't use heroin, but i don't go around telling everybody everyday about it. the only ones who proclaim drugfree status all the time are either :
-disgusted with the way they look.
-resent everyone who is bigger.
-lying
-wish they were using it.
-or like a recovering alcoholic know exactly how many days they've been clean (Croatch)
Great post!
Most people here have no idea how many positive effects AAS have on the body. they just focus on the negative sides that are not even that common, i used for years and the only sides i had were back hair growth and elevated BP that went back to perfectly normal after i came off.
8)
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Great post!
Most people here have no idea how many positive effects AAS have on the body. they just focus on the negative sides that are not even that common, i used for years and the only sides i had were back hair growth and elevated BP that went back to perfectly normal after i came off.
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Steroids=Vitamins
Thanks for clearing that one up. :D
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i never understood people take moderate amounts of gear. do it good or dont do it.
To do it good for me is to do it moderate. Why is that hard for you to understand? You get better gains than naturally and you don't get the sides. It's a wise choice if you aren't aiming for going pro.
And what do you mean by do it good? Do you mean that you should take insulin 30iu, 20 iu GH, 3g testo/day, thyroids, cytadren, liverpills ans so on ... or not do it at all? I think you need to think again. You are putting much strain on the body with massive dosages. Why not do it moderate, get good gains, and not risk you health?
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She doesn't
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Of course, in the end, it's how you feel about your own gains. I can't see jamming myself with a needle or popping a ton of pills as "accomplishing" something with my physique. When anyone can do it, it's nothing great. ;)
thats the beuty of it anyone can do it, but anyone cant look like ronnie coleman. just cuz your natural dont think if you took drugs you will explode it all comes down to drug response. there are a ton of gym rats taking over 2grams of combined anabolics and still cant bench 405. keven levrone is prime example sum peoples bodys just respond to drugs and sum dont. its anoyin hearing naturals sing the same song if they used drugs they be huge 2.
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thats the beuty of it anyone can do it, but anyone cant look like ronnie coleman. just cuz your natural dont think if you took drugs you will explode it all comes down to drug response. there are a ton of gym rats taking over 2grams of combined anabolics and still cant bench 405. keven levrone is prime example sum peoples bodys just respond to drugs and sum dont. its anoyin hearing naturals sing the same song if they used drugs they be huge 2.
Know what you mean phish. Got one of those friends who thinks he would be enormous if he took roids. Of course I believed so too before I tried it. I just wish he would do a cycle and see what it's about.
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thats the beuty of it anyone can do it, but anyone cant look like ronnie coleman. just cuz your natural dont think if you took drugs you will explode it all comes down to drug response. there are a ton of gym rats taking over 2grams of combined anabolics and still cant bench 405. keven levrone is prime example sum peoples bodys just respond to drugs and sum dont. its anoyin hearing naturals sing the same song if they used drugs they be huge 2.
no, every natural would be bigger than Ronnie Coleman if they popped a couple dbol - just ask them.
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50 is not enough on a prop Only cycle
ok, you have me here.
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ok, you have me here.
especially while pinning eOd not ed..
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especially while pinning eOd not ed..
lol, so 50mg ed would be fine?
i think on adding 50mg tren ace eod.
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You're wrong on this one.
If you don't like drugs, find another sport. More like, unless you're a pro bb and earn money from the thousands you spend on a cycle, you're a clown.
Most people can't make good gains without drugs, this is what makes real bodybuilding great. ;)
It's such a sorry cop out view here.
"Nobody can do it without drugs."
hahah, no, you can't. ;)
Sorry Croatch but you're off.
And I say this as not a personal attack cause I do think you have built yourself a solid physique but....
You will never look like Hazbin or myself naturally. Never ever.
And some guys would never be satisfied looking like you. Do you look muscular? Yes. But your picture on the wiki page for bodybuilder would be as laughable as Adonis'. The term bodybuilder infers large muscles. Your need to clarify bodybuilder with the word 'natural' is your way of explaining why u dont look like the word 'bodybuilder'.
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lol, so 50mg ed would be fine?
i think on adding 50mg tren ace eod.
50md ed would be doable.
because 100mg eod is.. =)
Isn't tren a bitch in the summer though?
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50md ed would be doable.
because 100mg eod is.. =)
Isn't tren a bitch in the summer though?
you seem to have an aweful lot of experience with steroids for someone who claims to be lifetime natural...
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you seem to have an aweful lot of experience with steroids for someone who claims to be lifetime natural...
I know a alot about training and aas. Because it interests me.
Dont really have any use of it on GB though ;D
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50md ed would be doable.
because 100mg eod is.. =)
Isn't tren a bitch in the summer though?
i see, you did your math.
How about 30mg dianabol ed with that? Just for the fun.
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I know who care's.people that juice but don't look like it.
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i see, you did your math.
How about 30mg dianabol ed with that? Just for the fun.
because u usually do short bursts on Prop like 6-8 weeks, Dbol should work great during the entire cycle, and at 30mg ed the sideeffects should be Minimal. And still provide good gains.
But ask an american and he would say 300mg ED of Prop and 400mg ed of Dbol ;D
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because u usually do short bursts on Prop like 6-8 weeks, Dbol should work great during the entire cycle, and at 30mg ed the sideeffects should be Minimal. And still provide good gains.
so that will be my beginner's cycle.
50 mg prop ed, 50mg tren ace eod, 30mg d-bol ed.
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so that will be my beginner's cycle.
50 mg prop ed, 50mg tren ace eod, 30mg d-bol ed.
First cycle?
I would say not combine a bunch of prep, Because It can be usefull later on to know how you react to them induvidually..
Prop 50mg ed with 30mg dbol would be a great beginner cycle IMO.
Exactly what Im planning on doing but 100mg eod..
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so that will be my beginner's cycle.
50 mg prop ed, 50mg tren ace eod, 30mg d-bol ed.
Your beginner cycle? You did that 5 years ago MonkeyBoy!
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I know a alot about training and aas. Because it interests me.
Dont really have any use of it on GB though ;D
You are full of it ...
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You are full of it ...
Know ALOT about training.
Have common knowledge about aas.
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First cycle?
I would say not combine a bunch of prep, Because It can be usefull later on to know how you react to them induvidually..
Prop 50mg ed with 30mg dbol would be a great beginner cycle IMO.
Exactly what Im planning on doing but 100mg eod..
ok, i'll leave the tren.
Your beginner cycle? You did that 5 years ago MonkeyBoy!
how come i didn't even know it, but you do?
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ok, i'll leave the tren.
how come i didn't even know it, but you do?
sounds good.
When you start?
what are you doing for pct?
Im thinking Clomid 100mg for 2 days then 50mg a few weeks and pray to GOD that I dont get a bunch of acne.
Im gonna run 20mg of accutane e4d though.
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Sorry Croatch but you're off.
And I say this as not a personal attack cause I do think you have built yourself a solid physique but....
You will never look like Hazbin or myself naturally. Never ever.
And some guys would never be satisfied looking like you. Do you look muscular? Yes. But your picture on the wiki page for bodybuilder would be as laughable as Adonis'. The term bodybuilder infers large muscles. Your need to clarify bodybuilder with the word 'natural' is your way of explaining why u dont look like the word 'bodybuilder'.
No, but one day I aspire to look like you guys naturally.
Another day on getbig. ;D ::)
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sounds good.
When you start?
what are you doing for pct?
Im thinking Clomid 100mg for 2 days then 50mg a few weeks and pray to GOD that I dont get a bunch of acne.
Im gonna run 20mg of accutane e4d though.
2030 or 2040, depends on how i feel in 2030.
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He who screams 'natural'
is not
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2030 or 2040, depends on how i feel in 2030.
Oh pretty soon then
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Oh pretty soon then
yes, i think i still have some natural possibilities. ;D
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No, but one day I aspire to look like you guys naturally.
cool neck!
did you wrestle?
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yes, i think i still have some natural possibilities. ;D
Your pretty natural yourself you ribose ruler of the Rhine.
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cool neck!
did you wrestle?
Way too tiring of a sport.
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yes, i think i still have some natural possibilities. ;D
Nattys are wasting their time.
Everyone ends up as a a jucier and everyone ends up loosing everything ;D
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I think there is always a certain level of resistance when somebody first turns to the darkside... but the people who are always on... its just part of them...
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I don't care what anyone puts in there body.It's there body and there prerogative.wether it's gear,alcohol,mary jane whatever it doesn't matter.It's not my place or anyone Else's place (including the government)to tell someone what they can or can't do with there body.
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He who screams 'natural'
is not
Great argument. ::)
In todays gym, the only reason to claim you're natural, is because SO many aren't. Especially, at a pretender heavy gym, such as Gold's.
If 90% of people were natural, there would be no need to keep it real. ;)
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Great argument. ::)
In todays gym, the only reason to claim you're natural, is because SO many aren't. Especially, at a pretender heavy gym, such as Gold's.
If 90% of people were natural, there would be no need to keep it real. ;)
is it you in your avatar though?
thats a thing ive been wondering for years
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I don't care what anyone puts in there body.It's there body and there prerogative.wether it's gear,alcohol,mary jane whatever it doesn't matter.It's not my place or anyone Else's place (including the government)to tell someone what they can or can't do with there body.
Agreed. If you want to ingest tons of fat, needles, cigarettes...the government should have NO input on that.
However, I have every right to judge them...haha ;D As they do me.
Live and let live...a concept I've never subscribed to. It's more fun judging people, then just letting them be. Great tagline for getbig. :D
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is it you in your avatar though?
thats a thing ive been wondering for years
Yes, my cool hairline.
Oh, those titties are natural too...hahah
ALL NATURAL. Women should wear those shirts too. It's sad looking at shows from the early 80s, seeing how few women have decent size titties.
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Yes, my cool hairline.
Oh, those titties are natural too...hahah
ALL NATURAL. Women should wear those shirts too. It's sad looking at shows from the early 80s, seeing how few women have decent size titties.
Finally I know. i have been meaning to ask you that for 3 years now.
Mary jane finally made me di ot!
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Finally I know. i have been meaning to ask you that for 3 years now.
Mary jane finally made me di ot!
Yeah, it's a pretty "personal" question. Something I've been trying to hide all this time...hahah :D
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Yeah, it's a pretty "personal" question. Something I've been trying to hide all this time...hahah :D
Form the point I saw your avatar to thge point I got the bottom of the paghe i always forgot abouyt it
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No, but one day I aspire to look like you guys naturally.
Another day on getbig. ;D ::)
One thing I like to ask you Croatch ... why do you pretend to be natural?
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One thing I like to ask you Croatch ... why do you pretend to be natural?
Brutal Croatch envy. ;)
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No, but one day I aspire to look like you guys naturally.
Another day on getbig. ;D ::)
Again croatch you look good.
But its nothing compared to what is possible.
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Oh and brutal tats on croatch :D
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bodybuilding is drugs if u dont like drugs find a dif sport like table tennis.
Hell, even they take "teh juice". Rock climbers too.
I waiting for the reigning World Champion of Thumb Wrestling to be busted for roids.
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naturals who are judgmental of anyone who uses a hormone supplement, and constantly proclaim their *natural status*… are the most annoying assholes in the world, especially the ones who have used steroids in the past.
it’s a personal choice, period. these guys who go around talking shit about people who choose to use (for whatever reason) are serious losers.. they should worry about themselves.
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He who screams 'natural'
yes, why do they do that?
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I'm nattie but would Juice if it was cheaper/legal/safer (as in you know what you are getting) If I could push my 85kgs to 95-100 why wouldn't I? As it is it just seems like too much hassle to juice atm :-\. But yeah if your not competing who cares?
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Nattys are wasting their time.
Everyone ends up as a a jucier and everyone ends up loosing everything ;D
Sad but true. I wonder sometimes how todays "monsters' will deal with this when it's time to... well... get old?
And of course, it always crosses my mind when I see someone who is big and ripped at the gym. I may just ask myself if it's just Test and Dbol, or does he have the money for everything. If I see his Ford Escort with the banged up fenders in front of the window, I figure I know the answer.
The difference is (like so many others stated)- I just don't fucking care. It's about me, what I do, and how I do it. I don't need to convince anyone of anything. It seems like the folks who offer information and try so hard to tell you about themselves are in reality trying to convince THEMSELVES of something.
It's like one poster said, you smoke, drink, pop Oxy and Vics, juice, screw your BFF when youre on Viagra and Cialis...
Who cares? It ain't my business. Just don't go out of your way to convince me you are a saint or something.
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Yes, my cool hairline.
Oh, those titties are natural too...hahah
ALL NATURAL. Women should wear those shirts too. It's sad looking at shows from the early 80s, seeing how few women have decent size titties.
I enjoyed a set of natural EE's last weekend. they were magnificent....big giant nipples and everything
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naturals who are judgmental of anyone who uses a hormone supplement, and constantly proclaim their *natural status*… are the most annoying assholes in the world, especially the ones who have used steroids in the past.
it’s a personal choice, period. these guys who go around talking shit about people who choose to use (for whatever reason) are serious losers.. they should worry about themselves.
Everything in life is a "personal" choice.
Just worry about yourself, great philosophy. How dull would that be in life? The reason others are here, is to amuse me.
"Do on to other, as you would have the do onto you."
I suggest you save your Golden Rule for other 3rd graders...haha ::)