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Title: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on June 25, 2009, 07:00:55 AM
Ok, I have received alot of gear from my good source at Geneza.

It consists of:

40cc Test E
20cc Tren E
40cc EQ
30cc Mast E
300 10mg Dbol (heard great reviews about GP dbol; it actually being little overdosed; we shall see)

I was planning on running something like this but I propably will still change it around.

1-20 wk Test E (500mg)
1-10 wk Tren E (400mg)
10-23 wk EQ (600mg)
10-20 wk Mast E (600mg)
1-8 50mg Dbol or 10-18 50mg dbol (I would only consider 2nd option because I would like to have that extra boost)

PCT: Nolva, Clomid, Letro

I have seen people run dbol for 8 weeks without any problems. But I also hear alot of mixed ideas.

P.S. I have been dieting for few months now and doing 45 min. cardio almost everyday.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: local hero on June 25, 2009, 08:51:12 AM
sounds like fun to me... i see no problems in running dianabol for 8 weeks either, can always get levels checked if your worried
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: tbombz on June 25, 2009, 08:56:34 AM
why are you running equipoise the last 3 weeks?  just cuz...or is that some kind of strategy
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on June 25, 2009, 09:12:21 AM
Thanks local hero.

tbombz: I'm running EQ for 13 weeks. You think I should run it from 7-20?
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: tbombz on June 25, 2009, 09:14:32 AM
Thanks local hero.

tbombz: I'm running EQ for 13 weeks. You think I should run it from 7-20?

well week 20-23 your only running eq it seems. eq is kind of a longer ester. youll have to wait till week 26 or so before starting your pct. generally speaking people like to run a short ester or an oral during the last few weeks while they wait for their long esters to release and be metabolized.

if you got some dbol left over then maybe run some dbol weeks 24-25-26 then do pct


also, if you got $$$ get yourself soem gh and slin(you dont need $ for slin though - dirt cheap) for when your letting your balls recover
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: 1-503rd_IN on June 25, 2009, 09:27:38 AM
were is the test?
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on June 25, 2009, 09:36:17 AM
tbombz: My plan was to ride eq from 10-23 weeks , I never wrote 20-23. And I don't have enough money for gh right now, but sometime in the future...

1-503rd_IN: Do you guys know how to read???? Test E 1-20 weeks. Damn.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: tbombz on June 25, 2009, 09:38:26 AM
tbombz: My plan was to ride eq from 10-23 weeks , I never wrote 20-23. And I don't have enough money for gh right now, but sometime in the future...

1-503rd_IN: Do you guys know how to read???? Test E 1-20 weeks. Damn.
oh i know that dude. but week 20-23 is included in week 10-23...  :D lol...   

how about doing 50mg dbol weeks 1-4 and 50mgs dbol weeks 24-26
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on June 25, 2009, 10:08:44 AM
oh i know that dude. but week 20-23 is included in week 10-23...  :D lol...   

how about doing 50mg dbol weeks 1-4 and 50mgs dbol weeks 24-26

^lol, Would it cause any problem if I would keep eq at 10-23? Or should I move it to 7-20?

I will definitelly consider dbol idea. Thanks.

I have no doubt about gp products (I run their test p and winstrol).  Just my dilema how to run it properly.

P.S. I need to find a supplier for HCG.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: local hero on June 25, 2009, 11:15:34 AM
test prop,,, ideal for a front load along with dbol when your waiting for your enthanate to kick in,, even better along with the winny at the end of a cycle,,say the last 3+ weeks..
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on June 25, 2009, 11:34:19 AM
test prop,,, ideal for a front load along with dbol when your waiting for your enthanate to kick in,, even better along with the winny at the end of a cycle,,say the last 3+ weeks..

Yea I thought of that before, and I run test p and winny from GP (with good results) but this time I wanted to do something different.

Anyway thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on June 26, 2009, 01:52:26 PM
How much letro should I use once I'll be on dbol?
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: dexterJ on June 26, 2009, 02:26:32 PM
25mg eod is ok
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: StackedDec on June 26, 2009, 09:44:05 PM
personally I'd run drol to kickstart increase overall mass quickly, increase epo levels and help with joints and I think it makes your muscles look better (if you are doing aas for bb)

then you'd switch to eq right then (week 8 to 20-whenever)
then add mast closer to the end

I think dbol makes you retain water under the skin where drol fills the muscle itself more and less under the skin.  You are going to want to keep estrogen related sides down without having to dose high with anti-e's.

I personally hate running clomid and the like, as much as it helps you get back your natural test it seems to hinder my gains even more than not doing any pct like I did for last time (prop and drol blast)  It was short and sweeeeet!  Test came back in about a week.  I was shocked.  Feeling awesome now and about to stock up for a cyp/tren or cyp/prop/mast cycle maybe.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on June 29, 2009, 06:00:07 AM
Drol out of the picture. I have to work with the things that I already have.

Thanks anyway!!!
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: Luolamies on June 29, 2009, 08:18:11 AM
personally I'd run drol to kickstart increase overall mass quickly, increase epo levels and help with joints and I think it makes your muscles look better (if you are doing aas for bb)

then you'd switch to eq right then (week 8 to 20-whenever)
then add mast closer to the end

I think dbol makes you retain water under the skin where drol fills the muscle itself more and less under the skin.  You are going to want to keep estrogen related sides down without having to dose high with anti-e's.

I personally hate running clomid and the like, as much as it helps you get back your natural test it seems to hinder my gains even more than not doing any pct like I did for last time (prop and drol blast)  It was short and sweeeeet!  Test came back in about a week.  I was shocked.  Feeling awesome now and about to stock up for a cyp/tren or cyp/prop/mast cycle maybe.

Sounds nice, i've heard of guys doing 8 weeks prop and a-bombs with awesome results, i'd still do pct though...
How long were you ON and what dosages did you use?

BTW: As far as dianabol goes it's one of my all time favourite steroids...

Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on June 30, 2009, 06:15:13 AM
Yeap definitelly doing pct!!!
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 06, 2009, 07:04:07 AM
Did anyone run mast or eq from Geneza???
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: MethodGNA on July 06, 2009, 08:05:13 AM
Did anyone run mast or eq from Geneza???


pssssssssstttttt, psssssssstttttt, closer................no one who is still alive to tell about it.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 06, 2009, 08:28:15 AM

pssssssssstttttt, psssssssstttttt, closer................no one who is still alive to tell about it.

lol,  :'(
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: dexterJ on July 06, 2009, 09:06:01 AM
be smart don't use geneza man! its faked from Moldavia.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 06, 2009, 09:32:58 AM
be smart don't use geneza man! its faked from Moldavia.

how you know it's faked??? All my gear's ISN numbers checks out on GP website.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: delta9mda on July 07, 2009, 03:01:09 PM
25mg eod is ok
2.5MG!!!!  damnit man get your shit straight. you are the new tbombz ;D
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: delta9mda on July 07, 2009, 03:02:21 PM
be smart don't use geneza man! its faked from Moldavia.
please read and come back when you know something. please.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 08, 2009, 05:56:02 AM
Alright, little update.

I am 6 weeks in into test (500mg) and tren (400mg). I'm still dieting and I still gained 7 pounds. Looking alot leaner. Lot more cuts and veins.

At night, I'm sweating like a pig even with the AC on.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 09, 2009, 06:20:04 AM
I did some heavy deadlifts on Tuesday and my lower back had some crazy pumps. I have never experienced that before. It was actually painfull.

Is this because of tren?
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 10, 2009, 07:24:58 AM
Damn man, now I'm still able to fall asleep at night but in the morning I'm soaked. sucks.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 13, 2009, 05:55:34 AM
Start of 7th week. Up 10 pounds looking leaner than ever before, no bloat. Got to love GP tren.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 13, 2009, 07:39:33 AM
be smart don't use geneza man! its faked from Moldavia.

Stop the bullshit.  You come on here and bash anything that isn't AP.  You have been caught in lie after lie talking about other gear and labs that you know absolutely nothing about. 

You never post anything to support your stupid claims about your accusations either.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 13, 2009, 07:58:35 AM
Stop the bullshit.  You come on here and bash anything that isn't AP.  You have been caught in lie after lie talking about other gear and labs that you know absolutely nothing about. 

You never post anything to support your stupid claims about your accusations either.

^+1
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: Big Rock. on July 13, 2009, 09:48:40 AM
  Aisa Pharma shill.


  I keep waiting for the typical "Just got my gear, what do you guys think" thread complete with with pics right from the AP sales site...
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 14, 2009, 06:47:27 AM
  Aisa Pharma shill.


  I keep waiting for the typical "Just got my gear, what do you guys think" thread complete with with pics right from the AP sales site...

with the website logo still splashed across the photo at that.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 14, 2009, 01:49:12 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 15, 2009, 06:11:51 AM
Anyone tried mast e from gp?
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: LurkerNoMore on July 15, 2009, 10:25:17 AM
Anyone tried mast e from gp?

I haven't personally but good friend at the gym is on Mast E, Test E and proviron.

2nd week now, he's stronger but that could be placebo effect.  You going to try it yourself?
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 15, 2009, 10:48:41 AM
I haven't personally but good friend at the gym is on Mast E, Test E and proviron.

2nd week now, he's stronger but that could be placebo effect.  You going to try it yourself?

2nd week is too early to tell. but heep me posted on his success.

I'll be adding mast e and eq in 4 weeks to my current cycle (test e, tren e and dbol)
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 16, 2009, 06:07:06 AM
Up 12 pounds, even more lean. Mid section looks better then ever. Alot more vains.

I must say I'm pretty happy!!!
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 17, 2009, 06:15:12 AM
Just sterted dbol today. 50mg through out the day.

How should I space them out (10mg pills)? Is every 4 hours good or I should stick to every 2-3 hours?
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 20, 2009, 06:21:58 AM
Day 4 on dbol. When I can expect some strength gains at 50mg/ed?
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 21, 2009, 06:13:07 AM
^bump.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 22, 2009, 06:30:07 AM
I did chest yesterday. I felt very good.

I felt like doing some pre-exhaustion first. Machine flys and jumping straight to incline bench. My chest was so pumped. I never had to lower my weight on incline bench.

The only negative right now is that I'm sweating way too much.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 23, 2009, 06:13:20 AM
How often do you guys do pre-exhaustion exercises???
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 24, 2009, 12:19:50 PM
bump.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 28, 2009, 06:07:34 AM
Up 15 pounds. Traps are so pumped.

There are no signs of bloat from dbol. Maybe little bit.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: WillGrant on July 28, 2009, 06:41:34 AM
Its time to change your screen name  :D
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on July 28, 2009, 08:02:34 AM
Its time to change your screen name  :D

lol. I'm going to ride it out as long as I can.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on August 04, 2009, 07:14:43 PM
Up 15 pounds. Traps are so pumped.

There are no signs of bloat from dbol. Maybe little bit.

got any pics anywhere
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: MethodGNA on August 04, 2009, 07:28:30 PM
lol. I'm going to ride it out as long as I can.

nobody cares...........stop bumping your lame thread...........we all know steroids make you bigger and stronger, that is why we are here................once again, nobody cares.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on August 05, 2009, 06:28:26 AM
got any pics anywhere

No current pics at this time.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on August 05, 2009, 06:31:13 AM
nobody cares...........stop bumping your lame thread...........we all know steroids make you bigger and stronger, that is why we are here................once again, nobody cares.

Who the fuck are you to judge?  If you don't care then don't read my thread. Now go ahead, watch some porn and jerk off; maybe you'll come down just a bit. :-*
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: tstmaniac on August 05, 2009, 06:54:48 AM
Who the fuck are you to judge?  If you don't care then don't read my thread. Now go ahead, watch some porn and jerk off; maybe you'll come down just a bit. :-*

lmaoo...how is the gp tren? smoothe or is it a bit painfull?  im looking to use some tren as well..might just stick with trenax or alpha pharm parabolan
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on August 05, 2009, 07:12:15 AM
^Actually Tren is very smooth. Test E is little more painfull. Tren E might be slightly underdosed.

But I'm still having the benefits from it. Actually I have one more shot of it and after that I'll be trying eq and mast e.

tstmaniac: let me know how is the other tren that you will go with.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on August 10, 2009, 11:29:24 AM
I was do with tren last thursday. Today I have added mast e and eq to the current test.

3cc in the delt.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: tstmaniac on August 11, 2009, 02:30:13 PM
Ok will do
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: Big Rock. on August 12, 2009, 06:55:37 AM
  3cc in the quad or VG is ok.  If I tried to put that much in one delt, I might as well insert a golf ball under the skin...
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on August 12, 2009, 08:54:22 AM
  3cc in the quad or VG is ok.  If I tried to put that much in one delt, I might as well insert a golf ball under the skin...

Actually my shoulder looked and felt fine. No problem there.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: MethodGNA on August 12, 2009, 01:52:18 PM
only an idiot would put 3ccs in their delt, as a matter of fact, unless you are taking pro-level site-enhancment protocols........no one should be pinnning their tri-s chest bi's and delts................... ....i once put 3ccs in my left delt when i was younger and all the benzyl alcohol in the shot gave me nerve damage in that shoulder................ .....for months and months my front delt on that side was compleatly dead, like it was removed from the shoulder.

it eventually came back................but still, its not 100% back to normal.................. ........you have huge, huge muscles in your ass and thighs.............perfe ct for injectioin.............. .why anyone would feel the need to use their smaller muscle groups is beyond me
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: tstmaniac on August 12, 2009, 02:50:22 PM
Agreed, I personally only hit the delts,glutes, and quads
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on August 13, 2009, 06:20:04 AM
only an idiot would put 3ccs in their delt, as a matter of fact, unless you are taking pro-level site-enhancment protocols........no one should be pinnning their tri-s chest bi's and delts................... ....i once put 3ccs in my left delt when i was younger and all the benzyl alcohol in the shot gave me nerve damage in that shoulder................ .....for months and months my front delt on that side was compleatly dead, like it was removed from the shoulder.

it eventually came back................but still, its not 100% back to normal.................. ........you have huge, huge muscles in your ass and thighs.............perfe ct for injectioin.............. .why anyone would feel the need to use their smaller muscle groups is beyond me

So I guess that makes us both idiots.  I'll split the dosages next time.

That sucks whatever happened to your shoulder.  I had no discomfort at all.

Thanks for the input.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on August 15, 2009, 01:25:21 PM
No current pics at this time.

great time to take some, then

seriously, i've been plotting my first cycle and trying to do things right - researching things like ug vs. hg, source reliability (of course), proper cycle and the million other things that go into it.  like i said, i really want to do things right.  and when you're trying to sort through shit to get to the truth on the internet, you have to weigh people's reliability as posters.

problem is, it seems like 90% of the guys that are supposedly juicing, as they are busy doling out much of the advice on gear, don't even look like they work out, let alone juice.  they often look like shit, in fact.  its their ego that makes them THINK they're swole i guess...to the point they'll convince themselves that they're running good gear.  lol it makes it tougher to figure out what's real

Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: Luolamies on August 15, 2009, 03:19:03 PM
^ Most of the guys that are like that (and i know many) may use ample amounts of gear, but don't eat enough, don't train hard enough or often enough. They just think that because they are on gear everything happens instantly, without any real effort and then they are even dumb enough to believe that they are BIG...
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: tbombz on August 15, 2009, 03:26:43 PM
only an idiot would put 3ccs in their delt, as a matter of fact, unless you are taking pro-level site-enhancment protocols........no one should be pinnning their tri-s chest bi's and delts................... ....i once put 3ccs in my left delt when i was younger and all the benzyl alcohol in the shot gave me nerve damage in that shoulder................ .....for months and months my front delt on that side was compleatly dead, like it was removed from the shoulder.

it eventually came back................but still, its not 100% back to normal.................. ........you have huge, huge muscles in your ass and thighs.............perfe ct for injectioin.............. .why anyone would feel the need to use their smaller muscle groups is beyond me
your being a bit obtuse. 3cc can go in the shoulder just fine. you pointed out you only had problems with it because of a high ba content. regular gear in regular people.. 3cc in the delt is just fine.

most guys find that their lower body, with the exception of glutes, is very sensitive to injections because of, most likely, abundant nerve endings(more so quads) and complex muscle structure(more so hamstrings and calves)


i just do tris delts glutes, sometimes traps, sometimes chest.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: MethodGNA on August 15, 2009, 03:36:41 PM
your being a bit obtuse. 3cc can go in the shoulder just fine. you pointed out you only had problems with it because of a high ba content. regular gear in regular people.. 3cc in the delt is just fine.

most guys find that their lower body, with the exception of glutes, is very sensitive to injections because of, most likely, abundant nerve endings(more so quads) and complex muscle structure(more so hamstrings and calves)


i just do tris delts glutes, sometimes traps, sometimes chest.


look, i am not saying it is defiantly going to happen to anyone..........and it wasnt because the gear had a high BA content, it was legit sustanon, i said the neurologist theorized that the BA might have been what damaged the nerve.

i put 3ccs in the delt hundreds of times before this with no problem.............but all it takes is once........it was a little obtuse of me to say anyone who does this is an "idiot"....that of course isnt true..............i just put my own exeriances out there, everyone else can take the advice or leave it.
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: allnatural on August 17, 2009, 08:35:58 AM
^ Most of the guys that are like that (and i know many) may use ample amounts of gear, but don't eat enough, don't train hard enough or often enough. They just think that because they are on gear everything happens instantly, without any real effort and then they are even dumb enough to believe that they are BIG...

Totally Agree!!!
Title: Re: New Gear!!!
Post by: Sarcastic Deity on August 17, 2009, 08:53:18 PM
^ Most of the guys that are like that (and i know many) may use ample amounts of gear, but don't eat enough, don't train hard enough or often enough. They just think that because they are on gear everything happens instantly, without any real effort and then they are even dumb enough to believe that they are BIG...

i'm sure there's plenty of that, too, but a hell of a lot of it has to be due also to shit gear.  these dummies are perfect suckers for all the online scammers out there.  steady money..lol

and, yeah, i agree its at an alarmingly high rate - all these "juicers" that are more like jokers lol