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Title: are steroids any different?
Post by: Kegdrainer on June 26, 2009, 03:58:34 PM
Chicks do shit to make themselves artificially look better all the time.  Anything from hair curling, collagen injections, implants, tanning, push up bras, applebottom jeans, etc....

It's fake and most of us love it anyways.  So why hate on steroids?

Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Deicide on June 26, 2009, 04:01:39 PM
Exactly.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on June 26, 2009, 04:11:53 PM
agreed, life is short enjoy it, if you want to be jacked and that makes you happy do it, just dont give harm to others ;)
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Earl1972 on June 26, 2009, 04:13:19 PM
Chicks do shit to make themselves artificially look better all the time.  Anything from hair curling, collagen injections, implants, tanning, push up bras, applebottom jeans, etc....

It's fake and most of us love it anyways.  So why hate on steroids?



very true

i guess it's just more acceptable for a chick to be into her looks

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Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: emn1964 on June 26, 2009, 04:13:39 PM
I don't understand why so many people here give a shit about what other people may put in their body.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Kegdrainer on June 26, 2009, 04:15:31 PM
I don't know why or if this makes sense, but I am anti-steroids in sports because it is against the rules.  No other reason.  I would prefer athletes of spectator sports take steroids and it be allowed, because that would be more entertaining.  For whatever reason though I am such a stickler for rules probably because of my job and following protocol is really imperative for success....
But for recreational use I fully support all drug use even though it is against the law.  Does that make any sense?
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Schmoe Buster on June 26, 2009, 04:15:58 PM
I don't understand why so many people here give a shit about what other people may put in their body.

exactly
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: dr.chimps on June 26, 2009, 04:16:12 PM
Good question. I'd run it by the Chickster for his input, tho. He'll be at the Riverside Convention Center, tomorrow.  ;D
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: emn1964 on June 26, 2009, 04:17:06 PM
Good question. I'd run it by the Chickster for his input, tho. He'll be at the Riverside Convention Center, tomorrow.  ;D

He will have to first call Jim Mannion to see how to respond
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: big L dawg on June 26, 2009, 04:21:19 PM
I don't understand why so many people here give a shit about what other people may put in their body.

been sayin this for years.to each his own.focus on you & yours not what others choose to do.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: emn1964 on June 26, 2009, 04:29:10 PM
been sayin this for years.to each his own.focus on you & yours not what others choose to do.

as long as the stupid shit another person engages in does not affect me I couldn't give a fuck
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: big L dawg on June 26, 2009, 04:31:51 PM
as long as the stupid shit another person engages in does not affect me I couldn't give a fuck

no doubt bro.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Tapeworm on June 26, 2009, 04:40:38 PM
Chicks do shit to make themselves artificially look better all the time.  Anything from hair curling, collagen injections, implants, tanning, push up bras, applebottom jeans, etc....

It's fake and most of us love it anyways.  So why hate on steroids?



Yes, they are different.  Female vanity makes changes on the surface without altering body function.  Steroids make superficial changes but also impact how your body works.  When it's legal for women to take clen but illegal for men to take clen, then you can compare apples to apples.

It's a victimless crime tho.  It's your body and you should be allowed to take whatever you want, but if you think the only impact steroids have on your body are those you can see then you haven't done your research.  Know the risks & make a decision, but don't look for bullshit justifications like women being allowed to get implants.  The one has nothing to do with the other.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Earl1972 on June 26, 2009, 04:43:48 PM
Yes, they are different.  Female vanity makes changes on the surface without altering body function.  Steroids make superficial changes but also impact how your body works.  When it's legal for women to take clen but illegal for men to take clen, then you can compare apples to apples.

It's a victimless crime tho.  It's your body and you should be allowed to take whatever you want, but if you think the only impact steroids have on your body are those you can see then you haven't done your research.  Know the risks & make a decision, but don't look for bullshit justifications like women being allowed to get implants.  The one has nothing to do with the other.

there are possibilities that makeup can cause cancer

many women have died during breast surgery

tanning beds can cause cancer

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Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Croatch on June 26, 2009, 04:54:42 PM
I don't understand why so many people here give a shit about what other people may put in their body.
If it were a few here and there, it's one thing...when millions of people are fake...it's get redundant, much like my posts on the matter.
When the majority of C cups are fake, people get tired of it.  Same with gear.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: disco_stu on June 26, 2009, 04:57:25 PM
victimless crime my ass..

you guys are delusional and only posting to justify your own use.

i bet threads like this makes you go all the gooey eh?

you all conveniently forget the was steroids impact on the brain. in fact, ive heard of many steroid users actually being killers...yes, its true.

hard to believe eh?
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Kegdrainer on June 26, 2009, 04:58:40 PM
Yes, they are different.  Female vanity makes changes on the surface without altering body function.  Steroids make superficial changes but also impact how your body works.  When it's legal for women to take clen but illegal for men to take clen, then you can compare apples to apples.

It's a victimless crime tho.  It's your body and you should be allowed to take whatever you want, but if you think the only impact steroids have on your body are those you can see then you haven't done your research.  Know the risks & make a decision, but don't look for bullshit justifications like women being allowed to get implants.  The one has nothing to do with the other.

I'm comparing the reasoning.  People say steroids is cheating and is "fake" muscle, etc....  Rarely bringing up the effects on the body as their reason for disliking the use so my argument is completely valid.  If you read my post more carefully you would see I approve steroid use for vanity but not for sports use when the sports organization disallows it specifically.  
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: big L dawg on June 26, 2009, 05:01:42 PM
victimless crime my ass..

you guys are delusional and only posting to justify your own use.

i bet threads like this makes you go all the gooey eh?

you all conveniently forget the was steroids impact on the brain. in fact, ive heard of many steroid users actually being killers...yes, its true.

hard to believe eh?

Is this guy for real?
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Tapeworm on June 26, 2009, 05:03:40 PM
there are possibilities that makeup can cause cancer

many women have died during breast surgery

tanning beds can cause cancer

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Sure, other activities carry risk too, but the question presented is 'are steroids different?' and the answer is yes, they are different.  They alter endocrine function.

Whether they are a greater or lesser risk than surgery or tanning is another matter.  I'm just tired of seeing guys grasping for justifications.  Someone who makes an informed decision to use wouldn't base his decision on 'logic' this kind.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Kegdrainer on June 26, 2009, 05:05:46 PM
i wonder if george farrah thinks steroids are a victimless crime after he got shot in the stomach 6 times during a shitty steroid deal.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Tapeworm on June 26, 2009, 05:11:52 PM
I'm comparing the reasoning.  People say steroids is cheating and is "fake" muscle, etc....  Rarely bringing up the effects on the body as their reason for disliking the use so my argument is completely valid.  If you read my post more carefully you would see I approve steroid use for vanity but not for sports use when the sports organization disallows it specifically.  

I see what you're saying Keg but a personal decision to use should be based on an informed acceptance of risks vs benefits.  What other people are allowed to do in the name of vanity is a non issue imo.

You hardly ever see a guy who says he understands the risks and accepts them.  Users are forever throwing up justifications and rationalizations or simply lying about use.  Almost no one just straight up owns up to steroid use.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Kegdrainer on June 26, 2009, 05:24:40 PM
I see what you're saying Keg but a personal decision to use should be based on an informed acceptance of risks vs benefits.  What other people are allowed to do in the name of vanity is a non issue imo.

You hardly ever see a guy who says he understands the risks and accepts them.  Users are forever throwing up justifications and rationalizations or simply lying about use.  Almost no one just straight up owns up to steroid use.

Cigarettes are a perfect example.  Would you say cigarettes are more or less dangerous than steroids?  Risk vs benefit?  I think cigarettes are less reward for even greater risk, yet you can buy smokes just about anywhere. 
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Tapeworm on June 26, 2009, 05:44:30 PM
Cigarettes are a perfect example.  Would you say cigarettes are more or less dangerous than steroids?  Risk vs benefit?  I think cigarettes are less reward for even greater risk, yet you can buy smokes just about anywhere. 


Dude this is exactly what I'm talking about.  Cigarettes are bad for you but they're legal.  Fine, but it has nothing to do with steroids.  We're not presenting a case to change the law based on relative risks.  You're just seeking a justification.  The point is that you don't need one.  It's your body.  Make an informed decision and own it without any bullshit.



Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Emmortal on June 26, 2009, 06:02:51 PM
Yes, they are different.  Female vanity makes changes on the surface without altering body function.  Steroids make superficial changes but also impact how your body works.  When it's legal for women to take clen but illegal for men to take clen, then you can compare apples to apples.

It's a victimless crime tho.  It's your body and you should be allowed to take whatever you want, but if you think the only impact steroids have on your body are those you can see then you haven't done your research.  Know the risks & make a decision, but don't look for bullshit justifications like women being allowed to get implants.  The one has nothing to do with the other.

So breastfeeding with implants is ok and doesn't inhibit bodily function or increase risk to the baby.

Fail.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Kegdrainer on June 26, 2009, 07:02:13 PM
Dude this is exactly what I'm talking about.  Cigarettes are bad for you but they're legal.  Fine, but it has nothing to do with steroids.  We're not presenting a case to change the law based on relative risks.  You're just seeking a justification.  The point is that you don't need one.  It's your body.  Make an informed decision and own it without any bullshit.





My body makes it's own decisions pretty much without my help.  Ever wake up with morning wood?  Makes you want to take some dbols and smoke a cigarette doesn't it?


Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: mogulgangi on June 26, 2009, 07:03:55 PM
smart man
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: clued-up on June 26, 2009, 09:56:51 PM
I don't understand why so many people here give a shit about what other people may put in their body.

because they’re judgmental losers.. who probably don’t have a lot going on in their own life.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: dyslexic on June 26, 2009, 10:12:51 PM
If you had a son and you had to make a choice...


Would you rather he smoke, drink, and pop pills-- or would you rather he juiced (only)???



If you had a daughter (grown up, of course Tardos)-- would you rather she got fake boobs, botoxed, tattooed and got plastic surgery... or would you rather she juiced?


Wait.... that's not gonna work.
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Viking11 on June 26, 2009, 10:48:09 PM
Cosmetics- smearing products containing god knows what chemicals on your face and body. Breast implants- the body doesn't like foreign objects in it. Steroids- derivatives of male hormone testosterone- or even just test itself. Steroids (in normal dosages) almost seem safer...
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: Tapeworm on June 27, 2009, 04:04:06 AM
So breastfeeding with implants is ok and doesn't inhibit bodily function or increase risk to the baby.

Fail.

I have no idea about implants or breastfeeding.  It isn't something I've bothered to investigate, so no surprise I have failed to spot the effects of plastic juggery on mammary function.  You got me, but all of this holding of other bad stuff in contrast to steroids is nonsensical.  Cigarettes are cigarettes, implants are implants, and none of this stuff has anything to do with the benefits or risks of steroid use.

All I'm sayin' is choose one:

1. "I juice because women get breast implants."
2. "I juice because cigarettes are legal."
3. "I juice because I choose, on an informed basis, to do so."

I'm going to melt all over the next guy who says "Yeah but they're not as bad for you as..."  ::)
Title: Re: are steroids any different?
Post by: big L dawg on June 27, 2009, 07:19:41 PM
there not as bad for you as crack. ;D